Who's The Better Wrestler?

[figure4]

So I don't understand what you guys want. The consensus on the Rock/Stone Cold arguments is that they have their own styles, right? What is wrong with Cena having his own style? With keeping the moveset limited? It's not 5-star classic shit, I know. But it is entertaining. I'm sure there were Bret and HBK fans bitching that Stone Cold and The Rock couldn't wrestle for beans. I'm sure there were old school fans who bitched that Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair were 'Nature Boy' Buddy Rodgers and 'Superstar' Billy Graham rip-offs. It's a continuous cyle. Believe it or not, the fans of Cena will probably have something to bitch about when the next-generation big star runs the WWE. It's not Cena, Hogan, Rock or Stone Cold's fault that they had amazing charisma and people like them, right?

It's funny because when Rock/Austin ruled, I battled with people on discussion forums like this one who said that they hated those guys because THEY couldn't wrestle! Come on, that's bs right? I think the moral of the story is that you don't really appreciate anything in wrestling until its gone. I think I'm the biggest Rock fan in the world and I feel like I appreciated him when he was here, but damn do I wish he was back. When JBL was the champ, I absolutely hated that prick. But now that he's gone, I would be lying if I told you that I didn't miss him. It's funny how that works out.

People love to boo/cheer Cena's every move, they love to watch him fuck up, they love to see what the hell else they can add to their list of reasons why they hate him. The ratings don't lie, guys. If that's not entertainment, then what is?

 

[Big Ace]

So I don't understand what you guys want. The consensus on the Rock/Stone Cold arguments is that they have their own styles, right? What is wrong with Cena having his own style? With keeping the moveset limited? It's not 5-star classic shit, I know. But it is entertaining. I'm sure there were Bret and HBK fans bitching that Stone Cold and The Rock couldn't wrestle for beans. I'm sure there were old school fans who bitched that Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair were 'Nature Boy' Buddy Rodgers and 'Superstar' Billy Graham rip-offs. It's a continuous cyle. Believe it or not, the fans of Cena will probably have something to bitch about when the next-generation big star runs the WWE. It's not Cena, Hogan, Rock or Stone Cold's fault that they had amazing charisma and people like them, right?

It's funny because when Rock/Austin ruled, I battled with people on discussion forums like this one who said that they hated those guys because THEY couldn't wrestle! Come on, that's bs right? I think the moral of the story is that you don't really appreciate anything in wrestling until its gone. I think I'm the biggest Rock fan in the world and I feel like I appreciated him when he was here, but damn do I wish he was back. When JBL was the champ, I absolutely hated that prick. But now that he's gone, I would be lying if I told you that I didn't miss him. It's funny how that works out.

People love to boo/cheer Cena's every move, they love to watch him fuck up, they love to see what the hell else they can add to their list of reasons why they hate him. The ratings don't lie, guys. If that's not entertainment, then what is?

I do appreciate things when they're here. The thing is, It all just breezed by, and we didn't get to enjoy them. JBL is one great example. I hated him, but he was heel and that was his job, unlike Cena, who got real heat. The ratings don't lie? What happened to 5.8's? Now they're getting 4.3 as a maximum. That's over 1 million people who stopped watching. And most likely, it's because Rock and Austin left, and it's because Cena became Champion IMO. I know many more people who dislike Cena's wrestling ability more than Rock and Austin's.

The truth is, Rock had Wrestling in his blood and Austin was a spectacular technical wrestler. Although, I get sort of sick of those who ONLY like technical wreslers. When Bret was champ, They didn't want HBK. Why? Because he was different. But thing is, more people think HBK is entertaining, and eventually, it'll rule out the Cena lovers. Cena is annoying and can't wrestle. If you think otherwise, then you haven't been watching a day before April 3rd 2005.

 

[figure4]

Cena can wrestle, but he's not great, I know. But until somebody else comes along who WWE wants to make the big star, the man, the king of a new era, then you and every other Cena hater has to continue to bitch...and I guess me and the other Cena lovers will continue to love.

 

[Shadowmancer]

I see Big Ace that you say that The Rock has wrestlingg in his blood but so does Cena, his father was a promoter in Massachsetts under the name Johnny Fabulous, so in theory it is in Cenas blood as well. Cena has one redeeming quality that I just found out, and it isn't Wrestling related, his strategy for C&C is to build Huge armies and destroy everything. Ive said it before that Cena needs to drop off of the main Event picture for a couple of years, drop down to the mid-card, then in a couple of years after learning a few more moves then be on the chasing end of the Title and if they give it to him have it as a short reign.

 

[X]

Yeah, hey man, no hard feelings over the argument figure4, I'm enjoying your posts and you give good, logical reasons behind your arguments. I understand now what you meant by calling Cena the company's top face.

But I think that if WCW were around, or even if TNA were able to get 2 hours and get some badly-needed publicity, that WWE would be losing the ratings war. WWE has just become lazy over the last few years with their product, and don't deliver near the quality of matches or feuds that they did only a few short years ago. The reason there are still so many WWE fans is that there is no viable alternative, some would say TNA but TNA only has one hour a week to showcase what their about because people who are checking TNA out aren't just going to jump out and buy one of their PPV's without checking them out on TV first, and that sucks because if more people actually went onto YouTube or bought some old TNA DVDs they'd see how incredibly superior most of their matches are to the WWE's product. WWE really has only impressed me with maybe a dozen matches at the max over the last few years, and most of those were HBK matches (his matches against Jericho and Angle will stand the test of time as being two of the greatest matches ever in a time when the WWE was sorely lacking good wrestling).

 

[KostaKid22]

So I don't understand what you guys want. The consensus on the Rock/Stone Cold arguments is that they have their own styles, right? What is wrong with Cena having his own style? With keeping the moveset limited? It's not 5-star classic shit, I know. But it is entertaining. I'm sure there were Bret and HBK fans bitching that Stone Cold and The Rock couldn't wrestle for beans. I'm sure there were old school fans who bitched that Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair were 'Nature Boy' Buddy Rodgers and 'Superstar' Billy Graham rip-offs. It's a continuous cyle. Believe it or not, the fans of Cena will probably have something to bitch about when the next-generation big star runs the WWE. It's not Cena, Hogan, Rock or Stone Cold's fault that they had amazing charisma and people like them, right?

It's funny because when Rock/Austin ruled, I battled with people on discussion forums like this one who said that they hated those guys because THEY couldn't wrestle! Come on, that's bs right? I think the moral of the story is that you don't really appreciate anything in wrestling until its gone. I think I'm the biggest Rock fan in the world and I feel like I appreciated him when he was here, but damn do I wish he was back. When JBL was the champ, I absolutely hated that prick. But now that he's gone, I would be lying if I told you that I didn't miss him. It's funny how that works out.

People love to boo/cheer Cena's every move, they love to watch him fuck up, they love to see what the hell else they can add to their list of reasons why they hate him. The ratings don't lie, guys. If that's not entertainment, then what is?

You battled with people on discussion forum boards and ....... they were right where is the CROCK and SCSA has a broken neck ? So they were not good wrestlers Brock Lesner was and Kurt Angle and Y2J also lets not forget HHH
Gay Champion JOhn Cena sucks noone likes him unless us fans rally together and boycott WWE PPV s coz if he doesn t drop the belt no point getting suckered and fooled with McMoron who I wish TNA can approach Ted Turner and start getting some fringin talent in for crying out loud
G-O-L-D-B-E-R-G should do it ! Bring in Jericho and Big SHOw and you got something!!!!
but Cena is not a maineventer and cannot fit in it
you only have 4 men as main eventers which is getting to be boring
How about Great Khali for crying out loud move him up he is undefeated and still is, Chris Masters needs main event status and lastly I dislike him also
Lashley needs to be up there also !!!

 

[Big Ace]

^What kind of post was that? Masters in Main Event status? It's idiotic remarks like that that make Vince think that people actually want to see it. Fire Masters. No charisma. No talent. Reminds me of....who? Lex Luger anybody?

If TNA were to become huge all of a sudden, WWE would take the title off of Cena and just bring back The Attitude Era IMO. It wouldn't take very long. In my mind, I've known this. If TNA became huge around this time, Cena wouldn't stay Champ very long. The ratings would drop and then they'd probably give the title to HBK as he's been there the longest and knows how to lead a company. The mature fans, would go and watch TNA and all the kids would stay and watch WWE. It'd be like 1994-1997 all over again. Like I've said before, TNA will end up like WCW. Maybe not end up, but they'll be in a very similar situation, just a very different era.

Can the WWE-TNA war start a Wrestling boom? I don't know. What I do know, is that Shawn Michaels is a damn good wrestler. Better than John Cena. I believe we've all gone a little off topic with the WCW-TNA-WWE thing though. Shawn Michaels > John Cena.

 

[KostaKid22]

^What kind of post was that? Masters in Main Event status? It's idiotic remarks like that that make Vince think that people actually want to see it. Fire Masters. No charisma. No talent. Reminds me of....who? Lex Luger anybody?

If TNA were to become huge all of a sudden, WWE would take the title off of Cena and just bring back The Attitude Era IMO. It wouldn't take very long. In my mind, I've known this. If TNA became huge around this time, Cena wouldn't stay Champ very long. The ratings would drop and then they'd probably give the title to HBK as he's been there the longest and knows how to lead a company. The mature fans, would go and watch TNA and all the kids would stay and watch WWE. It'd be like 1994-1997 all over again. Like I've said before, TNA will end up like WCW. Maybe not end up, but they'll be in a very similar situation, just a very different era.

Can the WWE-TNA war start a Wrestling boom? I don't know. What I do know, is that Shawn Michaels is a damn good wrestler. Better than John Cena. I believe we've all gone a little off topic with the WCW-TNA-WWE thing though. Shawn Michaels > John Cena.

You know honestly bro, I do miss that era back then when WCW was a superb better product than WWF at the time and we fans need some changes instead of having one Wrestling Association feeding us garbage and trash every week
by week it gets boring and Vince doesn't care anymore he has no competition
so he does what his childish mind tells him to do!I prefer if we were all over again in 1995-2000 era it was better!
But don t get me wrong Hulk Hogan and Big Show are not in WWE so at any given point they might end up in TNA! Lets not forget Jericho also!
GOLDBERG as well and even Dwayne JOhnson !
Fans had the privilige back then to advert and convert to WCW or ECW or both now McMoron bought them all coz only a loser like himself fears competition and I don't see TNA being bought out coz Jarrett who despises McMoron won't allow it !!!

 

[cenafan44]

i think this poll is unfiar to cena. Michaels has been in the WWE forever and had time to make changes to his arsenal and perfect it. He also had to time to work his way to the 5 star matches with Hart and Razor Ramon. Cena has been in the WWE for under 5 years and he is already champ. Vince obvioulsy thinks cena is better because cena has the belt of a guy who has been in the WWE two times longer than cena. FINAL LINE... CENA IS BETTER

 

[Luther_Hull]

i think this poll is unfiar to cena. Michaels has been in the WWE forever and had time to make changes to his arsenal and perfect it. He also had to time to work his way to the 5 star matches with Hart and Razor Ramon. Cena has been in the WWE for under 5 years and he is already champ. Vince obvioulsy thinks cena is better because cena has the belt of a guy who has been in the WWE two times longer than cena. FINAL LINE... CENA IS BETTER

I sincerely hope you were high or something when you posted that. As has been posted God knows how many times on here, Cena's boring as hell, his matches are all the same, any self-respecting dude can see that. The poll is not unfair to Cena, the only way it is unfair is that it's obvius he'll lose. Look at the ratings now Cenahas the belt and you'll realise most people agree.

 

[X]

Honestly this thread should just be closed because we all know who is the better wrestler and anyone who tries to dispute that point, simply put, is wrong. It's not even a matter of opinion, they are just plain wrong.

 

[jazzua]

I don't mean any disrespect to those Cena lovers out there, but the only reason he is even above ten percent on this survey is b/c of the fans that he actually does have. I don't think anyone could truly even make an arguement that would say Cena is even close to HBK. HBK is a top 5 EVER type wrestler where as Cena might not even top alot of people's top 75.

 

[paulos316]

yeah i must agree,hbk would most likely win this vote no matter who he was up agaisnt. the fact that hbk is a actual wrestler an cena is just a character really,would never help him in this one. ill be honest when cena first arrived i didnt mind him,then i hated the rap gimmick,then totally loved the gimmick,but lately however it seem wwe has killed cena's character so he's left with nothing.its a true shame.but not as much a shame as haveing one of the loved wrestler's of all time(hbk)kept away from the title.ithink hbk's lost his chance an will never hold the title again. peace out people im outtie.for shizzle

 

[Jaycobo]

John Cena isnt a wrestler. He cuts decent promos and every once in a while isnt a total and complete douschebag, but for the most part he is.
Shawn is the showstopper. nuff said.

 

[peterh]

if youve noticed that at backlash if it wasnt for micheals, cena wouldnt even be the champion now. im sick and tired of seeing this guy come out week after week raising his damn belt (which shouldve been micheals) and saying "THE CHAMP IS HERE!" big frickin deal! honestly i would rather have mr. kennedy, randy orton, or micheals hold the belt (not the spinner belt but the eagle, i doubt it but it would be cool) he's such a boring wrestler, and every single time cena is in a huge match and if J.R. says "cena's against the odds" he always manages to win the match and retain that damn belt. once hhh comes back i want him to destroy cena and take back the title to someone whos actually worthy to the belt.

 

[shawnmichaelsfan2007]

i told my friend that and she doesnt believe me

shawn is the better man and shawn should have one at backlash but how can u actually think cena is the better man u are wrong everbody is tired of cena retainging but i think he will lose his belt when triple h gets bak and triple h challenges ohn cena and triple h become a 12 champion goo triple h!

 

[ydarthken]

this is horrible, why would you compare a hack like michaels to the great man cena?!? cena has held the title for nearly a year now, michaels "cant touch him, its horrible they have given the tag team title to such an unworthy wrestler who isnt fit to hold cena's boots"
cena by a mile

what the f*** are you smoking? The 'only' excuse you could have for feeling this way would be 12-18 year old female who is suffering from either puppy love or 15-19 year old 'same-sex oriented' person. (One gay friend of mine loved his last pictorial shoot)

 

[shawnmichaelsfan2007]

one suffering etheir from pupy love or the same gay sexuallyty sex like u know one gut like another female likeing another femal one is gay and don't relilize who the hell they are in love with wuch means they don't know a thing about wwe

 

[keynutz]

a better question who is better the current john cena or shawn michaels in his prime?

 

[shwnmichaelsfan0828]

shawn is better

 

[ricflair1983]

I believe Shawn is the better wrestler. Not that Cena is a bad wrestler, its just that Shawn is a better wrestler than most in the world

 

[xSubZer0x]

HBK > Cena FTW! Nuff Said >:|

 

[Numberonewrestler]

Shawn Michaels is one of the best Wrestler in the history of the WWE but have one of the most overrated finisher in the WWE the Sweet Chin Music, I think Shawn reach his peak in wrestling during his prime from 1994-1998 that was the Shawn Michael we love and respect.

Look at his matches during that era

Shawn Michael vs. Razor Ramon, Wrestlemania X, Ladder Match for the IC title.

Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart, Ironman match, Wrestlemania XII for the WWF Federation title.

Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker, Hell in a Cell match

Shawn Michael vs. Mankind

Shawn Michael vs. Steve Austin, WWF title, Wrestlemania XIV

 

[shawnmichaelsfan2007]

look at it this way shawn michaels is the best main eventer WWE has had

 

[gerrard16]

im sorry but how can u say that!?!?!john cena is nuthin compared 2 hbk and the only reason why he is the champ 4 so long is coz he sucks up 2 mcmahon!!!