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Who The Hell Just Attacked Hogan/Sting? [All Aces and Eights Discussion]

I don't see how no one thought of this scenario. What if the person beyond all the attacks is none other than... Sting. Now I know he was the first to be attacked but how many times have we seen the main culprit get attacked just to throw everyone off the trail.

Sting could very well be the one, because if anyone notice, when Aries was holding the Five; yes five not four, cards in his hand, it just showed the 2 Aces and 2 Eights. But What if that fifth card is none other than the Joker Card? Sting has been playing the joker character and thats why I think Sting is the main culprit.

Why though, you may ask? Idk
Do I want it to be Sting? NO
Who do I want it to be? If it was my choice Aces and Eights will Consist of Jeff Jarrett, Petey Williams, JTG and Shad(thus bringing Cryme Time to TNA, but as of now, I seen No black people in the group) Joey Ryan, Johnny Devine, Chris Masters, and Scott Steiner
 
I don't see how no one thought of this scenario. What if the person beyond all the attacks is none other than... Sting. Now I know he was the first to be attacked but how many times have we seen the main culprit get attacked just to throw everyone off the trail.

Sting could very well be the one, because if anyone notice, when Aries was holding the Five; yes five not four, cards in his hand, it just showed the 2 Aces and 2 Eights. But What if that fifth card is none other than the Joker Card? Sting has been playing the joker character and thats why I think Sting is the main culprit.

Why though, you may ask? Idk
Do I want it to be Sting? NO
Who do I want it to be? If it was my choice Aces and Eights will Consist of Jeff Jarrett, Petey Williams, JTG and Shad(thus bringing Cryme Time to TNA, but as of now, I seen No black people in the group) Joey Ryan, Johnny Devine, Chris Masters, and Scott Steiner

Unlikely, Sting will be the first inductee in the TNA HoF and I'm sure he would want to go in as a fan favorite; I can't see him turning heel and back to face in the space of a couple of months. Besides, if there is one thing that has been proven throughout the Icon's career - fans will not accept him as a heel.
 
I find it amazing how nothing TNA does, lives up to your insane expectations. All these IWC Gatorade Brains over analyze every storyline TNA puts out that they'll never be good enough to just watch and enjoy. Come on! Don't be a bunch of jive turkeys.
 
I don't see how no one thought of this scenario. What if the person beyond all the attacks is none other than... Sting. Now I know he was the first to be attacked but how many times have we seen the main culprit get attacked just to throw everyone off the trail.

Sting could very well be the one, because if anyone notice, when Aries was holding the Five; yes five not four, cards in his hand, it just showed the 2 Aces and 2 Eights. But What if that fifth card is none other than the Joker Card? Sting has been playing the joker character and thats why I think Sting is the main culprit.

Why though, you may ask? Idk
Do I want it to be Sting? NO
Who do I want it to be? If it was my choice Aces and Eights will Consist of Jeff Jarrett, Petey Williams, JTG and Shad(thus bringing Cryme Time to TNA, but as of now, I seen No black people in the group) Joey Ryan, Johnny Devine, Chris Masters, and Scott Steiner

The turned down card could just as well be for Jeff Jarrett and be a King for King of the Mountain or something.

But I don't know that we should place too much significance on the card being turned down though.. Most displays of the Dead mans hand show the last card turned down because I don't think anyone knows what the actual card was.
 
Well, I hate to spoil it for you guys, but this is getting silly.

I happen to know that the turned down card is another ace. You see, three aces and two eights is one of many hands called a "full house."

The leader of this new faction is none other than.....BOB SAGET!

Just kidding. I hope Kdurantmvp is right. That would be way cool if it turned out to be sting, but they drew it out so that he didn't have to turn heel until after (or during) his hall of fame induction.

The truth may wind up being closer to the bob SAGET angle, though. I doubt TNA would do such a cool thing. I just hope it turns out better than my theory.
 
An idea germinated in my mind was how about an invasion from an entity that has long existed but that is at its lowest point right now, the NWA? I could see Jeff Jarrett being behind the attacks saying "you took my company from me" plus he wasn't the first indicutee of the HOF. But he could decide to destroy TNA by helping another group wanting to make a name for themselves. And the idea in his case would be for the NWA to replace TNA with JJ promising the NWA shareholders to bring back the NWA to its former glory. I would even include Jerry Jarrett in this in cohoots with his son. The guy is pretty old school and maybe like an old JR Ewing he would love to bring back the NWA. I could just see him chewing tobaco in his promos. Then Ric Flair would be behind this too, mad at what TNA did to him. Flair was the emblem for the NWA for so long. The rest would be a bunch of nobodies trying to make a name for themselves, giving TNA new talent to mold. But the main wrestler in all this would be current NWA champ Adam Pierce. The guy is fantastic, he can wrestle, talk, he is intense as Hell. You could set up a match down the line between Pierce and Sting for the NWA title at BFG with Sting winning the NWA title back as he was a great NWA champ back in the day. And then he could retire there. After BFG you either merge TNA and NWA with absorbing the NWA wrestlers into TNA or the opposite, TNA becomes the NWA. Wich lures more fans that likes traditional wrestling.
 
I don't think it's been long enough since Immortal for me to anticipate another stable.

They could bring God to lead these guys for all I care and I still wouldn't give two shits. It's always the same thing. Beatdowns, someone's agenda, then a bunch of clusterfuck matches and of course the inevitable counter-stable by the faces which prolongs things that much more.

Honestly I'd rather have these goons just herald the return of Double J and once he's back they can go away and JJ can do his thing. Not another stable. Not yet. I feel like TNA can bring AMAZING talent, book this PERFECTLY and it can be over as FUCK and I still will fast forward through it. Burned out on stables.
 
I don't think it's been long enough since Immortal for me to anticipate another stable.

They could bring God to lead these guys for all I care and I still wouldn't give two shits. It's always the same thing. Beatdowns, someone's agenda, then a bunch of clusterfuck matches and of course the inevitable counter-stable by the faces which prolongs things that much more.

Honestly I'd rather have these goons just herald the return of Double J and once he's back they can go away and JJ can do his thing. Not another stable. Not yet. I feel like TNA can bring AMAZING talent, book this PERFECTLY and it can be over as FUCK and I still will fast forward through it. Burned out on stables.

But we already have what you don't like: It's a group of unknown but it's a group anyway and they are attacking people. That is what they do. Somehow even if JJ leads this invasion I doubt he's gonna be content to stay on his own. Imagine all the guys the attackers would have bruised for months, JJ will be enemy no 1, guys are gonna be gunning for him. So he's gonna need guys to protect him.
 
I'm going to make some predictions since ever since the show last week.. I think Bobby Roode will now to face thanks to that attack on him by Aces & Nights, it'll probably put a team together to go up against them.. Wouldn't be surprised here now if one of them turned out to be James Storm later down the road and then turning him heel, this would mean that for their re-match they would be opposite of what they were, Bobby Roode would be face, James Storm would be heel...

It's probably just a new faction of character who are out for vengeance, they all had stuff in common with one another but not against each other, Jeff Jarrett would be out to get Sting out of jealousy of him being the first inducted into the Hall of Fame, James Storm wanting vengeance on Roode.. Depending on who gets attacked next, I could probably be able to make predictions on who the other ones are..

This is just a theory though..
 
kinda think of it Aces of 8 will probably challenge TNA superstars for the Hardcore Justice PPV it's simple as that and probably Aces of 8 are some mexican guys from other promotion AAA
 
I truly believe now that Aces & Eights consists of the following people.. Here is the people on my list..

Kevin Nash
Raven
James Storm
John Morrison
Gunner
Crimson
Jeff Jarrett

I made predictions just before last impact that James Storm was somehow gonna be involved with Aces & Eights in a plot to turn him heel.. I believe this faction is one that is out for revenge on the company, they all had something in common, but nothing against each other, so they teamed up..

Kevin Nash has been hinting returns, if it be TNA or WWE, we do not know.. We have not seen Gunner and Crimson for a while and it is starting to make me believe that somehow these two are involved..

James Storm wants revenge on Bobby Roode, thus, joined them.. If you watch the Impact on 7-12-12 when sting got attacked along with Hogan, there was roughly 7 or 8 of them, when we watched this weeks episode, there was only 5 of them, making me believe that some of the current stars are of the faction..

I could be completely wrong and the only member I may have right here could be Jeff Jarrett.. James Storm might have made a deal with them, but may not be apart of them, similar to the relationship between Sting and the nWo..

Joey Ryan was in some RKK dark matches, Sonjay Dutt and Zeima Ion also part of Ring Ka King, and the infamous power hungry group that ruled Ring Ka King of TNA wrestlers, RDX.

Again, I just don't know... One of them spoke however, I heard one of them speak and it sounded like Raven.. I bet even Jeff Hardy could be one of them, where has he been the last few impacts?

What I like most about this invasion is that we don't know who they are unlike Nexus, who all came out wearing the same damn t-shirts and spandex, Aces & 8's hide their faces..
 
I am afraid Jason Hervey is the insider and that everyone else (Roode, Storm) is just a distraction. He seems to have a place in TNA right now for no real reason other than to have his face on the show. If I'm right this may lead to Bischoff's return. Bleh!

Hopefully Kevin Arnold will expose this and Winnie Cooper will come in and take the KO title.

Angle also seems like an unlikely likely leader.
 
I don't think James Storm is part of the group. I think Bobby Roode is, yea I know he got attacked too, but so CM Punk was also attacked by the New Nexus before being revealed as a member. Also, when A's & 8's attacked AJ, James was even aware of it. Even if it's not Bobby Roode, it is somebody who is going to feud with James Storm
 
Believe it or not, I don't want to know who Aces and 8's are. I totally prefer them being a group of mysterious guys who attack people. The only way I want them to unmask is if they lose some big 5 on 5 elimination match with their masks on the line. That could be fun.
 
Kinda think James Storm has a part in Aces & Eights in some way. And I was thinking that wouldn't it be pretty cool if James Storm turned heel again? Anyway, James could probably say that this could be his only way to get back at Bobby Roode. Over the next few weeks James Storm would stay backstage when Aces & Eights attack Sting, Kurt, AJ, Bobby Roode, and Aries.
 
Doesn't matter who it turns out to be. The chicken neck, hoolahoop-eyed, gatorade brained jive turkeys that is the IWC will rip the hell out of it because it doesn't fit in there oh so genius booking that they think they have. It could even be their load fest lover Paul Heyman, and they still will say it sucks.

Just enjoy the fact that for once, there's a angle in wrestling that nobody really knows for sure how it'll play out, or who's involved.
 
I don't see how no one thought of this scenario. What if the person beyond all the attacks is none other than... Sting. Now I know he was the first to be attacked but how many times have we seen the main culprit get attacked just to throw everyone off the trail.

Sting could very well be the one, because if anyone notice, when Aries was holding the Five; yes five not four, cards in his hand, it just showed the 2 Aces and 2 Eights. But What if that fifth card is none other than the Joker Card? Sting has been playing the joker character and thats why I think Sting is the main culprit.

I was thinking the exact same thing. If you pay attention to the program last night (7/26); During the finale, Sting was suspiciously low key while everyone else was giving Storm a tongue lashing.

What is up w/ Sting mentioning to Hogan a Few weeks ago about going old school?

I personally would not mind a heel faction w/ Sting, Storm, AJ, Anderson, & Morgan or Crimson.

No way could Angle be in it; ME Mafia was a pile of crap IMO.
 
I truly believe now that Aces & Eights consists of the following people.. Here is the people on my list..

Kevin Nash
Raven
James Storm
John Morrison
Gunner
Crimson
Jeff Jarrett

I made predictions just before last impact that James Storm was somehow gonna be involved with Aces & Eights in a plot to turn him heel.. I believe this faction is one that is out for revenge on the company, they all had something in common, but nothing against each other, so they teamed up..

Kevin Nash has been hinting returns, if it be TNA or WWE, we do not know.. We have not seen Gunner and Crimson for a while and it is starting to make me believe that somehow these two are involved..

James Storm wants revenge on Bobby Roode, thus, joined them.. If you watch the Impact on 7-12-12 when sting got attacked along with Hogan, there was roughly 7 or 8 of them, when we watched this weeks episode, there was only 5 of them, making me believe that some of the current stars are of the faction..

I could be completely wrong and the only member I may have right here could be Jeff Jarrett.. James Storm might have made a deal with them, but may not be apart of them, similar to the relationship between Sting and the nWo..

Joey Ryan was in some RKK dark matches, Sonjay Dutt and Zeima Ion also part of Ring Ka King, and the infamous power hungry group that ruled Ring Ka King of TNA wrestlers, RDX.

Again, I just don't know... One of them spoke however, I heard one of them speak and it sounded like Raven.. I bet even Jeff Hardy could be one of them, where has he been the last few impacts?

What I like most about this invasion is that we don't know who they are unlike Nexus, who all came out wearing the same damn t-shirts and spandex, Aces & 8's hide their faces..

That's not a bad group. But I don't think this group will be anywhere close to that as far as superstars. Most of the masked guys are guys that have been let go by the WWE like Chris Masters and Mike Knox. It's more likely we're gonna have a Jarrett wanting revenge on TNA and hiring a bunch of thugs to accomplish that.

Also guys, please don't be marks, it's not because a wrestling company is teasing a guy turning bad that's he's going to turn. It's not a children show for God's sakes.
 
Also what I would like to see down the line is AcesAndEights not just attacking people, doing strategic things. And I would like for TNA to respond, I don't want it to be like the nWo where the WCW wrestlers would never do anything. For example, a TNA spokesman could say "alright we analyzed these guys' action, we know that that that about them and we intend to prevent their actions to spread further". TNA officials could name say....Mr. Anderson maybe as a sort of enforcer, someone in charge that would be dedicated a 100% to stop this group, explaining that Anderson has had experience in law enforcement before(Army). And Anderson would control all the Impact Wrestling security force and he would be able to use them at any times.
 
Kinda think James Storm has a part in Aces & Eights in some way. And I was thinking that wouldn't it be pretty cool if James Storm turned heel again? Anyway, James could probably say that this could be his only way to get back at Bobby Roode. Over the next few weeks James Storm would stay backstage when Aces & Eights attack Sting, Kurt, AJ, Bobby Roode, and Aries.

I don't think making James Storm vs Booby Roode a Heel vs Heel match-up would be the right thing to do. They turned Roode heel and he has proven to be a great heel and has really helped the company. Putting him up against the Ace's n Eight's group could just destroy everything they've done with his character.

After the last show I think it's Roode behind it as they attacked him to make it look like he isn't and didn't attack Storm to make him look like he is a part of it. Roode wasn't angry and wanting a part of Aces n Eights at the beginning like Sting, A double and Angle were he just came out to accuse Storm. Storms being set up so that his friends wont back him up because they distrust him.
 
Come to think of James Storm makes sense. He has basically the same attire as the attackers and has been up against 2 faces (Hardy and AJ) in the past few weeks. I doubt he's the leader, most likely a member of the group though.
 
One interesting aspect of the Aces & 8s from last weeks show is how they are playing with the numbers of attackers. Last week they were doing the whole is Storm involved ambiguity and then for the final scene there were less attackers than there had been in prior weeks, although I think they were short at least 2 which is even more interesting IMO.
 
When A & E was called out last night, some/all members were present for the KS/CJS match.

Its obvious Sting is the mastermind. Look at how (last night & last weeks episode) how he is playing everyone agianst themselves. I hated ME Mafia but its clear that A & E is MEM v 2.0. Look at how Angle has been an instigator and his matches w/ Storm have worked out.

The cards delivered to Brooke were a red herring IMO. Further, they are using a western theme to set up Storm.

Ponder this; Wasn't "they" supposed to be ME Mafia but it turned out to be Immortal instead?
 
When A & E was called out last night, some/all members were present for the KS/CJS match.

Its obvious Sting is the mastermind. Look at how (last night & last weeks episode) how he is playing everyone agianst themselves. I hated ME Mafia but its clear that A & E is MEM v 2.0. Look at how Angle has been an instigator and his matches w/ Storm have worked out.

The cards delivered to Brooke were a red herring IMO. Further, they are using a western theme to set up Storm.

Ponder this; Wasn't "they" supposed to be ME Mafia but it turned out to be Immortal instead?

No, the ME Mafia was supposed to come back to face Immortal but Booker and Nash went to the WWe instead and Fourtune turned on Immortal under a quick storyline rethink.

Once again, I just can't see it being the Icon. The one thing that he has never pulled off is being a heel and it's reported that he is kind of in the HBK mindset now of remaining face. Plus, TNA will want the first HoF induction to be a feel good moment, which having the first inductee being a character to boo would be unlikely to solicit.

I actually have a strange notion that this could transpire to be Dixie in cahoots with Roode, JJ, Bully, Daniels and Kaz (possibly even EB). Sting and Hogan have both failed her in the past and none of the top guys managed to rid her of Bobby, so maybe she has decided to make a deal with the devil and take control herself. A stretch? Possibly, but who went to AJ to help HER friend, Claire? Plus, who would have access to experts in the fields of doctoring telephone conversations? Who would be able to 'tip off' Chris and Frankie of opportunities to 'catch' her and AJ? Who would be able to make her part in innocent embraces and footage look just scandalous enough that her husband suspects that she is having an affair (that is, if Serge isn't privy to the plot to begin with)? Alternatively, substitute A Double in Double R's position as the guy who did finally end Bobby's reign - both could easily fit the profile of the top guy in the faction.
 

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