I believe that WWE marks are just as wrong for claiming TNA will go under just as TNA fans go overboard by claiming the same for WWE. Both companies have their strengths and weaknesses, obviously. Just because TNA is currently the number two company doesn't mean WWE will ultimately put them out of business.
TNA marks never claim WWE is going under, ever, like ever, and if they do they're idiots. Six years on wrestling forums now and it's always been the same criticisms, the product isn't good, the production value sucks and the wrong people are in power. That is what WWE fans have always used against TNA fans since I first began using forums. And you know what's stupid? Argument is pointless, because whether WWE fans like it or not, TNA have an audience. And whether TNA fans like it or not, WWE will always have an audience.
Unfortunately, alot of fans are delusional in their beliefs. Just read the original post. Full of faulty assumptions and baseless claims.
It's Mack_Swagger, he is a notorious idiot on the board. Most just red rep him and ignore, but sometimes his stupidity provokes response.
See, that's the thing; WWE can make a "few calls and change their product within the drop of a dime", but, they DON'T. They've been on auto-pilot since WCW went under and not truly given the honest effort to improve things.
Why would they go all out? Where's the sense in that? They have no competition, that is the reality of it. They don't want to start taking out all the big cards, you leave a trick up your sleeve for when times are tough or the boat is rocking, WWE focus on ratings, income and buyrates, which like it or not, they have a clear advantage over TNA on.
And while some people may not like TNA, they have been giving the effort[even though some things they do don't make logical sense]. This is what sets TNA & WWE apart in my view; TNA is trying just about anything to see if something sticks and WWE are just phoning it in, as usual.
TNA was terrible for about two years remember, and not many deny that. I watched it throughout the "dark days" if you wish to call it, which included the infamous twelve minutes of wrestling episode which was literally painful to watch. Or The Nasty Boys. Or the reforming of "The Band," however while all this was going on WWE were producing things such as The Nexus, last summer they had the CM Punk angle which certainly isn't "phoning it in." Bringing back The Rock certainly isn't "phoning it in" either or the current angle with AJ.
See, this is what I alluded to in the first post. WWE marks do harshly criticize TNA's product, most don't even watch, lately the struggle for TNA has been to get back the viewers they lost and isolated when the product was poor, now that its good. But TNA marks still throw the, "WWE are lazy" card, been doing it for ever, and it makes no sense.
When's the last time something truly shocking happened? I'd be hard pressed to come up with three really good examples in the last decade, to be perfectly honest.
1) Group of young guys from the third brand show formed a group in order to take out John Cena and other main event main roster talent. They also headlined SummerSlam. You didn't see it coming when NXT started, therefore it was surprising, and we all know damn well it was shocking at that time because it was a huge angle.
2) CM Punk taking a microphone, sitting on top of the stage and running down the company, its executives, those that hold him back, John Cena, Triple H, mentioning by name Ring of Honor and New Japan Pro Wrestling, bringing a scenario that was happening behind the scenes in his contract expiring and changing it to an angle, and making several very backstage based references. May have been worked, but we were here last year when it was happening, people had no idea what was going on.
3) Brock Lesnar returning to WWE, whether you like him or not, was a big shock for a lot of people considering how he left, where he went when he left, what he said while he was gone and how much he was being paid to return.
I have a few more in my head. And there is no point in you replying, stating, "I didn't find that shocking, I knew those were all going to happen," because that is irrelevant. Anybody who was posting on these boards when all three occurred or any boards remembers from the reactions to all three incidents how surprising they were, general consensus overrules any one opinion.
TNA has built somewhat momentum with going back live and their shows seem layered better leading up to the end. They still have horrible storylines like AJ/Claire Lynch going, but, at least that's an attempt[although a poor one]. Once TNA starts realizing where their strength lies[wrestling] they can then try to build upon that to capatilize on storylines accordingly. I believe TNA would sooner close their own doors, on their own terms before selling to Vince McMahon or anyone else.
I don't really care for the final line at all. Again, this thread was created by Mack_Swagger who has so few brain cells the ones remaining are on suicide watch. What I will say is, as someone who doesn't show bias to either mainstream wrestling company and simply enjoys wrestling in all forms(except JCW and CZW, cause Juggalos and excessively violent wrestling suck), I look at things from a realistic standpoint, and I know damn well that for those of you who legitimately believe that because TNA are producing a great product and because Austin Aries says there will be a "boom," does by no means mean TNA is going to somehow magically start getting better ratings, pay-per-view buyrates and significant profit to overhaul WWE.
Instead what TNA fans need to focus on is how they progress in the now, instead of what they hypothetically feel they'll produce down the road. Right now, as of late TNA's product has been better than that found on WWE's flagship show. But with WWE going into the 1,000th episode which is then followed by Raw, chances are TNA won't hold that advantage long, so you look at other positives.
Pay-per-view quality in TNA has been better of that in WWE, despite the fact WWE pay-per-views have been of good quality this year thus far. Slammiversary and Destination X were both great pay-per-views, before that Sacrifice was a great pay-per-view. That doesn't mean, "TNA new number one, Vince McMahon is fucked," that means they've progressed, but with Money in The Bank Sunday and SummerSlam next month, things can change in the blink of an eye.
Don't look at things from what you feel will hypothetically happen. Look at things from what you know.
