What WWE Really Thinks About CM Punk..

[lilnev2009]

Last night ladies and gentlemen, it cemented what I have been saying for months, CM Punk can not be the face of the company. CM Punk has had his 15 minutes and yes there have been some excellent moments. He had a program with HHH that lasted for a while....he lost. He had run ins with ADR....and Johnny Ace....really?. He has been jacknifed several times by kevin nash while not once getting revenge on him. He had a damn good match against ADR and Miz and what does that matter? Last night on the first Raw of the new year, where was he listed on the card for a title match? Ahead of a Y2J return that we already knew about and a 6 man elimination match featuring no Kane, A wounded Mark Henry, internet champion zack Ryder, Jack Swagger and an overweight Big Show. And why? because WWE knows that the face of the company regardless of title or not is STILL John Cena. Cena missed the last pay per view in which it was Punks show and Punk has had the opening promo in the majority of raws and what has it shown? The ratings have begun to slowly drop into the tank. CM Punk for all of the love that the IWC gives to him, can never be the face of the company and WWE knows it. And all the WWE marks on here know that if TNA had allowed for an irrelevant six man elimanation tag match in the main event over a title match, you would be killing them. It is time for Mr.Punk to give up the title and start doing something with someone else ASAP. The face of the company in the new year can not remain the ghost of the year past IF THE RATINGS WERE HORRIBLE WHILE HE WAS THAT FACE. For all of the flack that Cena takes, he as the face of the company draws people into the product. This is a business, based on fan reaction and the ratings show that the fans are still reacting to Cena over Punk. Remind me, what was the last face that was shown on THE LAST show on raw? Who had The opening promo on THE FIRST raw on the new year? I do believe it was Cena but maybe someone can comfirm that for me...Punk is how Mick Foley was during his title run. We all wanted to see it happen, but when it did happen....we wanted it to end. WWE would rather of had Jericho come out, prance around for a half an hour and not say a single word than have Punk's match be on after that. And why? Because Jericho even while prancing around in a jacket from a Peter Gabriel video draws people in. The statement was made loud and clear last night that Punk's time as the face is over. He will still sell shirts, he will still have fans, but as the guy the WWE puts in stock into....He was still in the main event last night and Punk was not...

 

[arttagboy]

You make yourself sound like a fool when you say that punk can never be the face of the WWE. The guy is in his 2nd run as WWE champion for goodness sakes! He's got time to get it figured out. And correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't Raw ratings slipping BEFORE Punk became the champ? Trying to blame it all one one person, instead of stupid booking (ADR fued, really? Getting Buried by Mr. I don't like to job Trips), is asinine.

 

[kingconor]

I haven't left a comment here for years but I just want to point out how silly it is to complain that Punk vs Ziggler didn't go on last on Raw. They had Kane come through the ring in the tag match at the end so surely that HAD to be last because they couldn't very well have another match afterwards.

Plus, although he mightn't have come off well in the angle with Nash and HHH, that could just be down to how the whole thing was abandoned because no one came out of that one covered in glory.

 

[RD_21]

The rating were declining for a long while, most of my friends stop watching because of Cena and the fact that all their favorite wrestlers all left, some came back for a short while for Punk.

Punk is not to blame, the product suck and there's a big lack of star power made even more apparent by the return of the Rock. When you look at Survivor Series, there was only one man in that match and it was The Rock, no one can be as big as him, Austin or Hogan and that's the problem.

People are just getting fed up and it has nothing to do with Punk, Punk is a saving grace for the older fans who would have give up otherwise this year.

You also see now that all the teens and adults have Punk shirt and scream for him whether you like that or not. Teens also boos Cena now (and for them it's because it's cool and they want to do like us, you know how teens work. Your little brother cheer Cena, but you are not a kid anymore, you want to cheer Punk and boo Cena like your Dad or Uncle).

Punk is not to blame, the product is.

 

[Dalinkwent]

I think it's funny that the poster admitted all of the cluster-fuck creatives choices Punk had to deal with yet because of WWE's dumbass creative style Punk should step down as the face of the company. WWE has been riding Cena and Orton's back so long that they forgot that it takes TIME AND EFFORT to build up top draws. Punk was saddled with a confusing and terrible angle with Nash that didn't go anywhere, then he took a backseat to the AWFUL walkout angle. So far Punks only real feud since taking the top spot has been with Ace who simply doesn't equal ratings.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Calm down. You may be right that Punk will never be the top face of WWE but who cares. Over 25 years of watching WWE I can count the number of longstanding top faces on one hand (Hogan, Hart, Austin, Rock & Cena). Sure there have been other guys but they either didn't last or were never very successful. WWE has put Punk in a position to succeed and he has to take it for himself. They let him say "bitch" on TV last night and he still holds the title.

If you are so concerned about the position of his match last night on the card, remember 2 things:

1. You can't have much of a match with a burnt hole in the ring
2. The Jericho segment left the crowd confused and worn out like it was intended to do. Not the kind of event that you want to follow.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Jericho got quite a few boos because he's not as over as he thinks he is and his sparkly prancing around is really awkward. He looks like he's an opening act for a Bon Jovi reunion tour or something. Although I do think they know this and are going to use it to their advantage. No one legitimately thinks a guy in a blinking jacket, a 2001 haircut that you would wear if you were 16 years old, and a real goofy prancing and "come on baby" thing going on is cool.

Punk is over. It's idiotic to blame a whole show on one guy. It's even more idiotic to put all your eggs in the ratings basket. It's even MORE idiotic to look at ratings in terms of the number and not the position.

 

[arttagboy]

have you noticed that it's the IWC's "new" thing to hate on Punk for declining ratings? WWE Superstars do the best they can with the angle's their given, but if they're given bad angles, or don't have the talent or charisma to carry them it will end a disappointment. Look at ADR: Loads of talent, decent angles, but zero charisma. the WWE fans don't care about him PERIOD.
DBD: A fair amount of talent, zero charisma, horrible bookings.
The same thing has happened with punk: Talent, Charisma, AWFUL booking. The only reason punk is still WWE champ is because he's got so much talent, and such a dedicated fanbase that it can ALMOST make up for the horrendous booking he's received.

 

[Miz_Mark]

Are you serious right now? Honestly? How many countless times over the passed DECADE has the WWE Champion gone on at the 10 O'clock start? Constantly. It's happened to every champion all the time, Miz, Cena, Orton, and on back through time, Trips, Austin... This is something they do to everyone to have an anchor on the first hour. It is patently absurd to believe this in any way, shape, or form factors into Punk's standings in the company. Not to mention the fact, as mentioned before, you have to put Kane on last if he's going to burn a whole in teh ring.

Oh, and TWJC, Jericho got boos because he was trying to get boos. It was a heel turn designed to turn the huge return singles star pop on its ear.

 

[ThinkinSmart]

Who wants his title reign to end again? I don't. Who would you give the title too? Cena? That wont make ratings fall, its not the same old forced down our throats argument but is any one honestly gunna turn in to watch Cena defend the championship again? And Dolf isn't ready to carry the brand just yet, giving him the title and showing that will hurt him the same way Punks first title run hurt Punk. People like you make talking about wrestling stupid. Your just hating on the guy because your so desperate to convince some one Punk is a weak champ when really hes the strongest. Ratings have been down for ever and were slipping before Punk became champ, thats the writers not being consistant and jumping around from story to story, not Punks fault. The guy gets standing ovations in every city. Y2J came back JUST so he could face Punk at mania, you don't think that was his choice? Also Stone Cold Steve Friggin' Austin is saying they'll only come back for just the right match and right now thats a match with Punk, and wwe would be ******ed to pass up that opportunity. Go ahead, argue against Punks title reign, but just know that in the end your wrong. Good day sir.

 

[LegendKilla101508]

You make yourself sound like a fool when you say that punk can never be the face of the WWE. The guy is in his 2nd run as WWE champion for goodness sakes! He's got time to get it figured out. And correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't Raw ratings slipping BEFORE Punk became the champ? Trying to blame it all one one person, instead of stupid booking (ADR fued, really? Getting Buried by Mr. I don't like to job Trips), is asinine.

You sound like another typical mark that just can't let it go.. It's no excuse for having a terrible feud and just blaming it on ADR. If Punk was truly great, he would make the best of it. His mic skills have gotten crappy, because he decided to be a suck-up and a loser by adapting to the typical WWE rules and characteristics, which is why I believe he doesn't deserve that top spot. In the summer, you can tell a difference between Punk and Cena or any other face, but now there is no difference except for the physique. If Punk was really great, his feud with ADR would be, at the least, mediocre or "almost alright" but ADR was not the only boring character during the feud. Punk's title run in the summer was decent; now, it's garbage and forgettable. Punk doesn't desereve that spot. Dolph Ziggler needs to take his spot as the "heel" of the company as he's proven everyone how talented he really is.

 

[arttagboy]

You sound like another typical mark that just can't let it go.. It's no excuse for having a terrible feud and just blaming it on ADR. If Punk was truly great, he would make the best of it. His mic skills have gotten crappy, because he decided to be a suck-up and a loser by adapting to the typical WWE rules and characteristics, which is why I believe he doesn't deserve that top spot. In the summer, you can tell a difference between Punk and Cena or any other face, but now there is no difference except for the physique. If Punk was really great, his feud with ADR would be, at the least, mediocre or "almost alright" but ADR was not the only boring character during the feud. Punk's title run in the summer was decent; now, it's garbage and forgettable. Punk doesn't desereve that spot. Dolph Ziggler needs to take his spot as the "heel" of the company as he's proven everyone how talented he really is.

Not a mark at all my good sir. Was Cena's fued with Del Rio any better? Certainly not. Only thing memorable about Christian's fued with Del Rio was that it was the "culmination of a lifelong dream" other than that, nobody gave a sh*t. Rey Mysterio Vs. Del Rio was trash as well. My point is, if the fans don't care about who you're going up with, and crowds are DEAD when your opponent walks down the ramp, it's not your fault. You can't turn poop to applesauce my friend. No difference between Punk and Cena? Who's the one who got booed out of the Arena last night? Sure wasn't Punk. Besides that, have you noticed that he is the ONLY one besides Cena who could say "BITCH" and not get future endeavored? But he's conforming? Sorry friend.
You are just a Dolph Ziggler mark who can't understand that the guy is simply NOT ready for the gold. He gets NO reaction without Vickie, and is barely average on the mic. But you'd rather have him carry the company instead of Punk?
You are, as Jericho would say, "Hypocrite and a germ incubator."

 

[Rick Rudes Mustache]

Another Cena Fanboy suckling from the teet of mediocrity. You Cena Sheep amaze me. You've watched an inferior product (WWE, Cena) for so long that you have either forgotten A) What real WWF/E product should be (i.e. attitude era/early Hogan - Andre) and B) What a real superstar is.

Punk is in the mold of Austin, Hart, Steamboat, Lou Thesz, Jericho, Benoit, Flair...Guys that were NOT running around like wannabe GI Joe action figures. They were actors in the ring. They do/did tell stories with pain and bumps.

I swear, the new WWE fans need to lose computer privileges for a year and be forced to watch old NWA, AWA, WWWF (yes I'm aware i added an extra W, true wrestling fans are aware that the WWWF was the parent to the WWF) videos. To learn what a real Wrestling Star looks like. How they move, sell, bump, talk.


While every per-pubesnt closeted justin beiber fan club member is allowed to post knee jerk QQ reactions on message boards about product they are ill-informed on...maybe they shouldn't

 

[trips22]

lilnev2009 I totally agree with your assessment of Punk. The people on this board just can't face facts when they are stated clearly and precise. You are probably like me when I say that the short ride Punk gave people when his contract was up was fun but I knew and I bet you knew that there was no way he could keep up what he started with his pipe bomb moment. Punk wasn't and isn't ever going to be the next Stone Cold! My question to all these Internet fan boys of Punk is if he is so great then why hasn't any of his World Title or WWE Title runs ment a damn thing? He has all this steam then gets a belt and then it's what do we do now?
I have been saying for a long time on post here and there that when it comes to Punk kids don't get him at all. For instance, my kids can't stand him and always ask me why is he the champion. All I can say is "I have no idea". So for the IWC get over it and just accept the truth when it is presented to you instead of trying to make the person who delivered the TRUTH sound foolish or as if he has no idea what he is talking about. People hate the truth cause sometimes it hurts and the IWC is a little too sensitive right now. You guys keep saying that they haven't given Punk anything to work with and I beg to differ as he has gotten what every other champion has been given. I remember stone cold having a program with Dude Love which wasn't great but they made the best of it or what about some of the crap that Stone Cold did with Kane which could have sucked but because of the charisma that Stone Cold had it just worked out beautifully! Punk fans get over it Phillip has had his fifteen minutes and it's time to move on.

 

[arttagboy]

lilnev2009 I totally agree with your assessment of Punk. The people on this board just can't face facts when they are stated clearly and precise. You are probably like me when I say that the short ride Punk gave people when his contract was up was fun but I knew and I bet you knew that there was no way he could keep up what he started with his pipe bomb moment. Punk wasn't and isn't ever going to be the next Stone Cold! My question to all these Internet fan boys of Punk is if he is so great then why hasn't any of his World Title or WWE Title runs ment a damn thing? He has all this steam then gets a belt and then it's what do we do now?
I have been saying for a long time on post here and there that when it comes to Punk kids don't get him at all. For instance, my kids can't stand him and always ask me why is he the champion. All I can say is "I have no idea". So for the IWC get over it and just accept the truth when it is presented to you instead of trying to make the person who delivered the TRUTH sound foolish or as if he has no idea what he is talking about. People hate the truth cause sometimes it hurts and the IWC is a little too sensitive right now. You guys keep saying that they haven't given Punk anything to work with and I beg to differ as he has gotten what every other champion has been given. I remember stone cold having a program with Dude Love which wasn't great but they made the best of it or what about some of the crap that Stone Cold did with Kane which could have sucked but because of the charisma that Stone Cold had it just worked out beautifully! Punk fans get over it Phillip has had his fifteen minutes and it's time to move on.

Oh what the heck, I'm going to humor you: Who, my dear, do you suppose should take the strap off punk? Let's look at the choices, shall we?

Alberto Del Rio: Injured, thank goodness.

Mark Henry: After his groin injury heals, and seeing as he has nothing to do, he'd be a great challenger, but can he carry the company better than Punk has been doing? (if you actually thought about that question for more than 2 seconds you deserve to be shot.)

Jack Swagger: Horrible run as World Heavyweight Champion a few years ago. Has been relegated to mid-card status indefinitely.

The Miz: Crappy run as WWE Champion. Upper-mid carder. Fans don't care about him. Currently involved in a feud with R-Truth.

Dolp Ziggler: A guy who has ZERO heat without Vickie, and sub-par mic skills. A guy who is barely above mid-card status as far as wrestling fans are concerned. Granted, he's great in the ring, but if you're complaining about Punk carrying the company, he's a hypocritical choice.

John Cena: In a feud with Kane for the time being. Gets booed out of literally every arena he goes to (go watch the Raw Replays on youtube. Memphis hates Cena, and so do most WWE fans). Has been WWE Champion far too much. Won't improve ratings. Never mind the fact that to give him the strap means scrapping his current angle, and turning either him or Punk heel for the confrontation. Not a logical choice.

Chris Jericho: Not in a feud at the moment. Looks all set to become a heel. We know he and Punk can have some great matches. The only logical choice for an angle with punk. As an unashamed Jericho mark, I wouldn't mind this happening, and right now, Jericho is THE ONLY MAN who can take the championship off punk without him losing credibility.

So there you go friend. You clamor for the belt to be lifted off Punk, but as you can see, there aren't many alternatives, and only 1 person who can actually carry the title right now besides Punk. WWE Creative is on the right track, and Punk deserves to be champ for the time being.

 

[SydTinDad]

So pissed at "E" right now. Punk is working his ass off.

IMO, it's 2 things...............

1) POOR ASS BOOKING: It's never going to change as long as Preperation H, the senile Vimmy Mac, and his dolt of a daughter leave. We have to deal with it.

2) THE RATINGS BULLSHIT: I work in marketing in a nitche industry and ratings mean JACK SHIIT when you are the only game in town (TNA is not a real player so don't even go there). Every Monday night, I hear POP after POP after POP everytime CM PUNK appears. What, because some douche bag bean counter in Stamford says that viewership goes down during Punk matches, that he is not worthy to carry the torch? Fuck you WWE. Wake your ass up and realize that your not practicing what you preach. You say the audience tells you whether or not someone is over, the audience doesn't only relate to the pimple faced 8 year old who has to turn off the TV at 9:30 because mommy said it's time for bed.

Fucking morons in Connecticut!

 

[lilnev2009]

As usual people are missing the big picture. When has the wwe ever done a show for the new year and not have the guy with the title main event? Punk is not nor will ever be near cena or orton in the sense that he cant carry the show. Yeah the ratings may have been dropping but why else would reports of wwe wanting to take the strap off him due to those ratings? And punk has had the strapped since the summer of last year...not last week. And fans were booing Jericho because he ran around instead if saying anything. Jericho is forever over so yea. It has said a lot that punk needs to be in programs with the "hot" thing ala Johnny ace and the nexus. He is a great wrestler but the face of the company as he proclaims himself to be is beyond defense.

 

[arttagboy]

Boy, every Punk basher keeps saying the exact same thing, but refuse to answer the question of why ratings were slipping BEFORE Punk got the title. I'm going to give them a chance to defend themselves now, or else their arguments become invalid.

Open mic: Have at it.

 

[yoshi_doce2006]

CM Punk is in a lot of ways a throwback to the 80's where you had guys who were excellent in the ring and could talk without a script handed to them. Punk is in most ways more qualified to be the face of the WWE more than anyone in the company. Has anyone forgotten that when Punk was in OVW they compared him to a young Ric Flair and since then those talks have gotten far louder with guys like JR AND Ric Flair himself who KNOW the business?

Ratings? Ratings have been in the tank since 03 and get lower every year, the last downturn started last time Cena held the belt and have never recovered. Del Rio held the belt which only made the ratings dip lower, and now Punk is being blamed for not being able to get the ratings up?

Punk needs someone to work with better than Johnny "Animal Wannabee" Lauranaitis, and Alberto "BORING" Del Rio. I mean, how many true Superstars are there in the WWE these days? Punk, Cena, Jericho, Orton, I Guess Big Show could fill the Andre The Giant roll. So what, five? And we dont even know if Jericho will stay and Cena had from what I saw the best matches of his career against...PUNK.

Punk right now is the best the WWE has, period, and until the WWE decides to actually allow people to be who they are like both they and other promoters did in the 80's the company wont have stars, I am 29, I remember the Horsemen, not the watered down Horsemen the first three incarnations of the Horsemen, I remember Dusty Rhodes, Barry Windham, Ted Debiase, Piper, Ace Bob Orton, Macho Man, Hogan, Steamboat, Road Warriors, Demolition; I remember how they didn't need 15 guys in a room writing them a script because they were so devoted to their craft that they LIVED Kayfabe. The only guy in the WWE that I see capable of performing on that level right now is Punk.

And don't tell me Cena could because Flair, Sting, Macho, Hogan, and Steamboat would all make him look like an amateur playing with toys. While I dont think either Cena or Punk could survive an attack by the Minnesota Wrecking Crew, Punk could at least get beat down in a style that would make Dusty Rhodes and Ricky Morton proud.

 

[ITALIAN NYC]

Jericho got quite a few boos because he's not as over as he thinks he is and his sparkly prancing around is really awkward. He looks like he's an opening act for a Bon Jovi reunion tour or something. Although I do think they know this and are going to use it to their advantage. No one legitimately thinks a guy in a blinking jacket, a 2001 haircut that you would wear if you were 16 years old, and a real goofy prancing and "come on baby" thing going on is cool.

Punk is over. It's idiotic to blame a whole show on one guy. It's even more idiotic to put all your eggs in the ratings basket. It's even MORE idiotic to look at ratings in terms of the number and not the position.

Jericho was booed a little bit when he was walking up the ramp because he said a big FU to the fans that cheered him. He wasnt booed because people dont want to see him, he was booed because of his character. He purposely wore that jacket and did all that dumb shit to make fans like yourself boo him and not care. Thats what a heel does.

Punk is over yes, he gets huge reactions, but he wont be the face of the company. As much as everyone hates Cena, go to his facebook page, go to wwes page, all you see is Cena fans ( with the most HORRIBLE grammer Ive ever seen )

I dont blame punk myself for the ratings. Its a down time in the WWE. Once the rumble hits, the ratings will be back up.

 

[TheFuture]

We hear the same arguments from Punk hater's at least three times a week on this forum, and every single time they refuse to look at the fact that ratings had been tanking since well before Punk had the belt. CM Punk is easily top three most over wrestlers in the company, the problem is he can only do so much when he is placed into feuds with Kevin Nash, Johnny Ace, Alberto Del Rio, and now Dolph Ziggler.

Notice something about all those names? Anything? Could it possibly be that the majority of fans don't care about them at all? Could it be that three of the four can't draw a reaction from the crowd to save their lives? Ziggler is the only one of the four names there that get's the crowd reaction, but to be fair half of that is due to Vickie Guerrero, but Dolph like the other's does not have any sort of major following aside from the IWC.

Am I saying that CM Punk is on the same level popularity and drawing wise as say Cena and Orton? No, not at all at this point in time. But to put the blame on Punk for a ratings decrease that started months before "The Summer Of Punk", and the fact he can't get people to care about anyone that the WWE has booked him against in the clusterf*ck of storylines in recent months is just extremely ignorant.

 

[Skinsley]

Paragraph.... please!

OfCourse John Cena is still the FACE of the company... why are you even making a thread about this and adressing everyone else in the IWC as if we think CMPunk is now the Face of the company?
Such things take a while to transition and its not even like WWE are even attempting to make Punk their new Face.....its just something that seems to be happening. And may or may not come to fruition. I am banking on NOT but thats SHOWBIZ!

 

[RD_21]

As usual people are missing the big picture. When has the wwe ever done a show for the new year and not have the guy with the title main event? Punk is not nor will ever be near cena or orton in the sense that he cant carry the show. Yeah the ratings may have been dropping but why else would reports of wwe wanting to take the strap off him due to those ratings? And punk has had the strapped since the summer of last year...not last week.

Okay man someone need to tell you what was not what you think you may remember.

Del Rio cashed his MITB contract on Punk in his first PPV defense after MITB. They then put the strap back on Cena in a panic move because the ratings were dropping fast. Then the belt may have gone back to Del Rio (not 100% sure but it don't matter) and Punk got it back around Survivor Series, not since summer.

Two, for the reports of WWE wanting Punk to drop the strap you need to consider 3 things. First it's a "dirt sheet" report and even if it was discussed at one point we don't know how seriously it has if at all. Two, Vince always react in panic and blame the current champs when ratings declines and three even if McMhaon blame the champs it doesn't mean he is right (Vince is out of touch with his audiences sometimes, see Burchill pirates gimmick where Vince wasn't aware of the big buzz that the Pirates of the Carabeans movies were having when he dropped the gimmick).

Three, January 4th 2009 Sheamus faced and defeated Evan Bourne (not sure if it was for the title but Sheamus was the champ) at 10h28. Then Orton who wasn't a champ faced Kofi Kingston and then Bret Hart confronted Vince. January 3rd 2010 The Miz (who was the champ) faced JoMo in the opening contest.

Pretty much all your arguments were destroyed and shattered unfortunately I expect you to act like most forum posters and ignore my post.

 

[H33LTurn]

Can anybody ever just think realistically? Yes Punk can be the face of the company, and theres a good chance he might be some day. Hes not the face of the company now, but he is over and some people do tune in to watch him regardless of what the ratings are right now. Why did Cena have the last spot of the show, because hes still the face of the company, they want to get Zack Ryder over and the two make a good team, and it would mean an entire show's worth of anticipation towards Y2J, Punk, and Kane appearing, meaning solid ratings throughout the entire show. Why are the ratings in the shape they are now? Its a combination of bad booking, younger fans growing up and realizing there are other more popular shows on at that time, current fans giving up on the product because it no longer interests them, and casual TV fans not knowing WTF is so important about CM Punk or Laurinaitis and just giving up.

 

[Best in the World 79]

Last night ladies and gentlemen, it cemented what I have been saying for months, CM Punk can not be the face of the company. CM Punk has had his 15 minutes and yes there have been some excellent moments. He had a program with HHH that lasted for a while....he lost. He had run ins with ADR....and Johnny Ace....really?. He has been jacknifed several times by kevin nash while not once getting revenge on him. He had a damn good match against ADR and Miz and what does that matter? Last night on the first Raw of the new year, where was he listed on the card for a title match? Ahead of a Y2J return that we already knew about and a 6 man elimination match featuring no Kane, A wounded Mark Henry, internet champion zack Ryder, Jack Swagger and an overweight Big Show. And why? because WWE knows that the face of the company regardless of title or not is STILL John Cena. Cena missed the last pay per view in which it was Punks show and Punk has had the opening promo in the majority of raws and what has it shown? The ratings have begun to slowly drop into the tank. CM Punk for all of the love that the IWC gives to him, can never be the face of the company and WWE knows it. And all the WWE marks on here know that if TNA had allowed for an irrelevant six man elimanation tag match in the main event over a title match, you would be killing them. It is time for Mr.Punk to give up the title and start doing something with someone else ASAP. The face of the company in the new year can not remain the ghost of the year past IF THE RATINGS WERE HORRIBLE WHILE HE WAS THAT FACE. For all of the flack that Cena takes, he as the face of the company draws people into the product. This is a business, based on fan reaction and the ratings show that the fans are still reacting to Cena over Punk. Remind me, what was the last face that was shown on THE LAST show on raw? Who had The opening promo on THE FIRST raw on the new year? I do believe it was Cena but maybe someone can comfirm that for me...Punk is how Mick Foley was during his title run. We all wanted to see it happen, but when it did happen....we wanted it to end. WWE would rather of had Jericho come out, prance around for a half an hour and not say a single word than have Punk's match be on after that. And why? Because Jericho even while prancing around in a jacket from a Peter Gabriel video draws people in. The statement was made loud and clear last night that Punk's time as the face is over. He will still sell shirts, he will still have fans, but as the guy the WWE puts in stock into....He was still in the main event last night and Punk was not...

Lord where to start. By the first few lines into this, I realized you must be the Chicago Made Punk's biggest fan.

It's very hard to wrestle a good main even title match with a gigantic fucking burnt hole in the middle of the ring.

You blame the Triple H and Kevin Nash think on Punk? Yeah, cause Phil Brooks is definitely married to Vince McMahon's daughter and all.

And the ratings deal? I hear so much about ratings this, ratings that. I'm sure raw is still the number one running show every monday. No matter who is champion. You may think John Cena is God's gift to wrestling because you probably starting watching in like 2004 and loved his rapper gimick and thought him making every fucking belt into a spinner was genius. Guess we must all bow down to John Cena FUCKING NOT.

Would you ever, ever stop to think about blaming the people behind the scenes. the creative team maybe. or vince. no you probably didn't. cm punk cannot write all the storylines, do creative, raise ratings, be champion, and all that shit at once do you? you ever think the only reason the ADR storyline was even bearable was because of Punk's microphone brilliance. ADR is a fucking moron on the mic. Good in ring, but if he's gonna talk his way into a fued, of course it'll suck.

You should really sit back before you get to bashing on a guy and praising John Cena like the 15 year old you probably are. There is DEFINITELY A REASON every arena chants cena sucks. Not because it's cool or any of that shit. It's because he's old and boring.

Hint: Let's go cena. CENA SUCKS!!!

While 90% of the crowds chant C.M. Punk's name. Get a grip man. For real