What is the Big Deal about Ted Dibiase Jr.

[Godfather]

I think it is very unfair to Cody Rhodes that just because Ted has a certain "look" that Ted will go to the main event and Cody will stay on the mid card. I can't even say that Ted is a better wrestler than Cody. Does anybody else think Cody should be the one to go to the Main event instead of Ted?

 

[KANE-A-KNIGHT]

Nope. Pesonally Im a big fan of Teds and dont think highly of Cody. On the Mic cody wins but in the ring I think Ted is much better to watch I just hope he dosnt take to much from Ortan and becomes individual rather than an Ortan wannabe.

 

[byrnside]

Personally, Cody is from my hometown, and I still don't care for him that much. Both of these guys have a lot to live up to as far as lineage goes. But just right off the bat I feel like Dibiase is a better choice. I feel like their in-ring skills are about even, and Cody's mic skills may be a little bit better.. But I can look at Dibiase and just believe him as a main event contender. Not so much for Cody. Hopefully Cody will improve, there's just something about him that irks me. I never thought that I'd say this, but think it's his size.

I just hope he dosnt take to much from Ortan and becomes individual rather than an Ortan wannabe.

I hope he takes more after his dad. I loved watching Ted Dibiase Sr. wrestle, still do to this day.

 

[colalella2891]

No for me too. I'm sorry but Ted is just so much better. First, he has that look. Second, he reminds me so much of Orton when he was just starting out, and Rhodes doesn't remind me of Orton, he's just not as flattering. I think it's what Byrnside said, about his size, he's SUPER skinny, not just small. Don't get me wrong, Rhodes is talented, but I stopped taking him seriously when he was Hardcore Holly's tag team partner...

Now, actually, a big thing that may bring Ted down are his promos. He sucks. Rhodes is the better speaker, so that may elevate Rhodes. Ted is OK on the mic, but a better in ring performer.

 

[Chill]

Originally posted by colalella2891:
He (Dibiase) reminds me so much of Orton when he was just starting out, and Rhodes doesn't remind me of Orton, he's just not as flattering.

Surely it's a good thing Rhodes doesn't remind people of Orton? We don't need another clone of Randy Orton. I'm sure neither Rhodes or Dibiase would want to be considered as 'Randy Orton the second or third', surely it's about being your own person and having your own look and style....no? If that's true then it's a good thing Rhodes doesn't remind you of Orton...

Don't get me wrong, Rhodes is talented, but I stopped taking him seriously when he was Hardcore Holly's tag team partner...

It's hard for anyone to be taken seriously when paired with Hardcore Holly. But now if anything, Rhodes should be taken more seriously in my opinion after all the work he's done in Legacy...could you not start taking him more seriously after wins over DX?

As for the point of this thread, the big deal about Ted Dibiase is that people have recognized his potential and because of that some already have visions of him as champion. The thing is, I like Dibiase as well as the next person on here, in my opinion he has a good image, he can talk on the mic and is good in the ring...but to say that Rhodes wont succeed because of his size or whatnot is a bit misled...all you have to do is watch WWE programming and it is quite obvious WWE want both of them to succeed and they are both being groomed into future main eventers and key players.

It's a bit unfortunate that all these comparisons arise between the two all the time (obviously it's inevitable because they're a team) but I prefer to treat them as individuals and point to their individual strengths and weaknesses. Both are talented and both will succeed in my opinion.

 

[La Mascara]

WWE has actually made Dibiase look better. When Legacy faces any other tag team, Dibiase takes on the bigger one. For instance, DX vs. Legacy. Dibiase is always taking HHH, and sometimes getting the better of him. That's makes him look strong. While Cody takes on the weaker one opponent.

Also, Dibiase faced orton in a match and was made to look good. Rhodes is made out to seem as a follower instead of leader. While Dibiase has shown to be somewhat of a rebel. He slapped his dad!

Overall, WWE has made Dibiase look stronger and more credible. While he also has that "X" factor. Dibiase will be a tweener. Tweeners are the best, because they can are unpredictable.

It doesn't mean Rhodes won't get his chance, though. Rhodes has a very unique look. He just has to be made a tadbit more credible. Maybe a win over shawn michaels, or an upper midcarder, in a a 1-1 match would help him.

 

[Chill]

Originally Posted By La Mascara:
For instance, DX vs. Legacy. Dibiase is always taking HHH, and sometimes getting the better of him. That's makes him look strong.

Not necessarily. When Legacy took on Triple H in a handicap match on RAW just before DX reformed...it was Rhodes who got the pin, not Dibiase. However, this whole 'who pinned who' argument is just nit picking and doesn't really show anything but I just want to point out that it isn't always Dibiase who is booked strongly...

Also, Dibiase faced orton in a match and was made to look good.

Just pointing out that Rhodes faced Orton in his debut match on RAW and at least one other time and was made to look good. This was before some people had even heard of Ted Dibiase Jr...

 

[PedigreeTHE619Chokeslam]

They are both good wrestlers and have talent. I just see Ted having more and having the look of a future champion. And he will be.

 

[Ricardo Marella]

I think that they both should be going to the main event but not rite now. They both should become faces and still ahve their tag team for a lil bit then have them mutually split to pursue singles careers. And then have them both pursue mid card titels on the same brand possibly make it a feud or on seperate brands and then have them got to the main event cause i do not think that they are ready to go straight to the top.

 

[tLight]

I do think that Cody is better in the ring that Ted. Cody is also better on the mic than Ted, but Ted is bigger, and has that look to him that makes you think "Future World Champion"

Id much rather they both get pushed equally and both become future world champs, but I think Ted will make it to the top a lot faster than Cody.

Either way they'll both be around for years to come and should provide some great feuds and story lines involving each other

 

[JGalaxtic]

Ted jr is excellent don't get me wrong - he's been nothing but charming since his debut. But I gotta hand it to Cody, he's been in the majors quite longer than Jr. and it definitely shows with alot of you saying that he has been ring-mic skills. I gotta say their pretty even on the most part - and I believe in them both to succeed in any direction they want to go.

I mean Cody has had more beef with Randy - his debut was supporting his father afterall. Randy's last legend tooken down I believe was the american dream, so there's already history. I think the small guy ratio of not making it - starting changing when Rey won the world title. Than we saw people like Jeff and CM Punk.
We can't count them out just yet. It's not necessary to see these guys be rushed to main-event level, they still have golden years to prove themselves. And they will.

 

[hawaiianbulldog]

I think that you have to take into account: skills, look, mic and size now i do know that cody has good in ring skills and mic skills however look/size is a big thing. I just can't see cody beating Orton but when i look at ted i say he could beat him. So with that in mind i have to say ted could be wwe champ but i would keep cody heel and put him on SD that way he could feud for the IC title. So i think that ted should get the push.

 

[JDavis328]

I think this is more of a opinonated topic which isnt bad dont get me wrong. In my opinion,Ted is the greater of the two. Honestly when I look at cody rhodes he will in my mind be stuck in the underdog roll. Underdogs do make it and all but just he seems like a underdog character to me. I really cant believe him as a heel quite honestly. Also not trying to sound harsh but cant get past the lisp when he talks ether(same with swagger as well). Cody was trained up in the wwe system for the most part and really has one style to him when i see him.

As for Ted i really think he is the whole package. In my mind he is great on the mic. His debut was(not to be corny but) simply priceless. He wasnt as wwe style groomed as cody because he was trained under harley race's school and even was wrestling tours with Pro Wrestling Noah facing guys like KENTA and Teaming with Bryan Danielson. I think his wrestling is great because of this fact that he is more diverse then cody. Also like everyone says he has the look. Not the future randy orton look. He has more of his own look. In my opinion if they would of scraped the legacy idea and had Ted just go with that attitude and character of surpassing his father and such he would of still be just as if not more sucessful. Im kinda hoping that they bring his brother up and have them do a tag team as well. I love brother tag teams and I think the DiBiase brothers would be a great duo because they were a tag before wwe as well. I just see Ted going farther in general then Cody but thats just my opinion and thats not saying I dont want Cody to go far ether.

 

[JJYanks121]

This thread screams of me giving my input and I'm going to try and answer the question at hand as opposed to comparing the two and predicting their future as usual.

The big deal to the Ted marks is he has "the look". The prototypical McMahon look. I would guess Ted and Vince are both around 6'2" 240 pounds. Anyone at that size or above have in the past put a gleam in management's eye and have credibility as heavyweight champion by look alone. The same can be said of guys like Lesnar, Batista, Triple H to some extent, and in years past, the Warrior, Hogan, etc. When you are naturally large, you look tough to beat, and in the world or pro wrestling, looking the part is half the battle. The other part is showing you CAN be beat to bring intrigue to any match up.

The other "big deal" factor with Ted is his name. He is the first of the 3 sons of the Million Dollar man to debut in the WWE (though he is the middle child). Even though he was a heel his entire career, as time has gone on, Ted Sr. has become a beloved name in fan folklore. The terms "best to never win the big belt" and "best wrestler not in the hall of fame" have built Ted Sr. into this sympathetic figure, and I believe part of the appeal of Ted Jr. winning the WWE title is almost one of vindication for his father who never got it. While that is unfair to place on the son, especially when there are other sons who are training and for all we know could be a lot better than Ted, Ted is the son who got his father's name. Despite WWE's efforts to expose Jr as his own man, there are some that will always hold out hope for the kid because he father was so good.

The hope ranges like this "his mic skills will come". This being said while having in the back of their mind that his father was one of the best mic workers ever. Combine that with having the generic wrestler look and people HOPE for Ted to succeed.

The reality is that he shows flashes from time to time. He has a physical style in the ring similar to Orton and HHH. Still has work to do on his selling and ring psychology, but seeds have been planted. Also like Orton, his mic skills are bland and his delivery is monotone is a bad way. These are correctable things and being he's only 26, he has plenty of time to correct it. I think one day he'll be a major player IF he puts in the work and doesn't just expect things to be handed to him because of what his last name is. If he takes that road, good things will be ahead.

Conclusion: the big deal is about Ted's future, but his present needs a lot of work to get there. Your dad's name got you to the show, but now you gotta take the bull by the horns and, no pun intended, create your own legacy.

 

[Rated_R_Superstar2010]

i'd say cody has a better style on the mic. ted is good but i'd say cody is better on the stic. i really dont have a preference between the two. i'd say both have a very good chance of going to the mainevent.

 

[wewanttables]

I am a huge Cody Rhodes fan. He has the mic skills, the in ring ability, and the tenacity to do well. You guys talking about his size forget that Morrison, Ziggler and Edge are not that much bigger. He exudes confidince that says opportunist. I can see him beating Orton to cause the Legacy break-up. I don't really see that happening with Ted Debiase. He has potential to be a good face or a great heel for many years.

Cody Rhodes America's Dream, WWE's Nightmare

 

[drondog]

Tedd is going to have to turn face soon, the Marine 2 comes out soon, and they don't want him being a heal going into a movie release. That would make it completely flop!

 

[Cekjr77]

Personally I'm not overly impressed with either one of them yet. Rhodes is better on the mic, that's it. DiBiase has better ring skills but that's not saying much yet. They did have a couple good matches with DX, I will give them that, but that's about it. And hopefully when they improve, because they definitely will, I hope neither one of them ends up like Orton! He's so f'n boring. His interviews are the perfect cure for insomnia, and he does have good matches now and again but nothing recently to really be bragging about. On top of the fact, he looks like he belongs in a padded room with that stupid look he has now.

 

[instantkarmaVA]

Ted Jr. needs to work on having a pesonality on screen then maybe we can talk about being championship material. He's got his fathers skills but not his mouth...

 

["Cool Guy" Jensen]

It would have to be a no from me also. From the first time I saw, Ted DiBiase Jr., I thought immediately that he would become a future big star in the WWE. I stand by that to this very moment. That's not to say that I don't think highly of Cody Rhodes. Cody has really impressed me in the past few months, and he's really starting to look like a star. However, he seems to be more of a tag team specialty. For the majority of his career, he's had a tag team partner with him (look Hardcore Holly and Ted DiBiase). Until he can look more on relying on himself and not a tag team partner, I gotta keep my hopes and positivity on Ted DiBiase. He's a great singles and tag team wrestler, he has the skills, he can work on the mic, he has the look... what more than you ask for? Cody still needs some work, but I'm sure he can do it.

 

[SSJPhenom]

I love Ted, I happen to think that he is outstanding. He has the look, the ring skills, and the charisma to really make it far in this business. Honestly, everytime I look at him wrestle, I feel the way about him that I did when I watched Orton wrestle in Evolution. I think to myself, "There is the future of wrestling." It becomes more and more evident everytime I see him. Especially after the wonderful job that Legacy has done with DX. If Ted sticks with it, he is going to become a major star in the future. I could actually see him as a champion in as little as a year. He is more than capable and I look forward to seeing what he becomes.

As far as Cody goes, I feel the exact same way. He is also good in the ring and on the mic. He doesn't have the same look as Ted, but so. He is about the size of CM Punk, so I don't think that he can be counted out of the Main Event Scene either. Just look. He is going to main event Bragging Rights in that huge tag match. He definitely has the charisma and mic abilities of his dad and ever since he has been in Legacy, his in ring abilities have improved a bunch. When I look at him, I think, "There goes the future of our business."

I think that they both will go far and I think that they are the next two major stars that are going come up in wrestling. I honestly can't wait to see it.

That is all.......for now!

 

[thewrestlinghero]

Ted is pretty good im a fan of his and I have no worrys that he will be a big time player the way there grooming him right now along with Cody who else I think is going to be a big player and im a fan of his.

Now to answer the Original post question. The big deal is the reason why everybody likes him even though its been said countless times but its true. Is he has the look he has in ring ability and he has the mic skills. The guy can be a awsome heel or face if booked well.

 

[RatedY2J93]

ted is better than cody i think. Ted i dont know but he just has the look of a future world champion cody is still good i won't give it past him i think he will be a big asset to the wwe in years to come i just think that ted will get there b4 cody does because of his size and his wrestling skills. right now id say the only thing cody has on ted is that he has a bit more experience and he has better mic skills.

 

[Southwind]

I personally don't care for either of them John Morrison is much much better IMO, they have failed in my eyes to take advantage of the rub Orton has gave them which shows me that neither will achieve great success.

Dibiase has the "look" but so do a lot of other guys when Orton cut his face and Evolution promos they were very good Dibiase's are awful.

Ted is just getting a push because of his movie release they will try.... and fail to get him over because he will fail as a babyface guaranteed.

 

[layinDown]

Size has nothing to do with it. Look at Hardy, CM Punk, HBK, hell, even Mysterio. All of them have had championship success in the WWE and all of them are considered skinny or small compared to guys like Rock, HHH, or Taker. Sure, Vince tends to like bigger guys, but he's learned over the years.

Personally, I can see either Ted or Cody as a future champ, although I do think Cody would need something extra. By that, I mean: HBK had his ladder matches/confidence/good looks, Mysterio and Hardy have the aerial moves, etc., so Cody would need to develop some kind of "niche" to be a successful champ.

I've also noticed people have said negative things about Cody's lisp (not sure if it's been said in this thread or not as I only read about half the posts). Anyway, I think it's actually a positive thing. Why? It sets him apart. Anything that sets you apart in wrestling is a good thing. Anything.

Either way, I'm really looking forward to seeing both these two stars mature and develop into superstars; mid-carder, my ass.