Does anyone know what Vince's problem is with him. I get why the Warrior isn't and I understand that Macho Man is a little weird. But come on, next to Hogan I can't name anyone bigger from the late 80s all the way through the 90s. When Hogan went to WCW it was a big deal, but when Savage switched with him it was huge. I don't get why this man isn't gettin his due, and guys like Refrigerator Perry and others that weren't even wrestlers are in the hall of fame.
What has Macho Man done that keeps him from the Hall of Fame
- Thread starter slikrik84
- Start date
Well, you can't just put everybody in at once. I guess part of the reason why he's not there already is because they're waiting for the right time to put him in. Just because he isn't there already doesn't mean that Vince may necessarily have a problem with him. He could have possibly approached him about it already and Randy could have said no. Who knows?
I have no doubts that Randy will be in the hall of fame eventually...sometime within the 5 years or so. And when he does, I guarantee you that rumors will run rampant about a possible Savage/Hogan encounter at that year's wrestlemania. There's alot of guys that you could question why they aren't in the Hall of Fame already.....but you gotta give it some time. Bruno Sarmantino isn't there yet, Bob Backland isn't there yet, Ricky Steamboat isn't there yet, Rick Rude, Ted Dibiase, Rick Martel, Rocky Johnson, Davey Boy Smith, The Legion of Doom, Curt Hennig. None of those guys are there either.....but like I said about Randy, there's no doubt that they will be in due time. I don't think it's a crime that he isn't there yet.....it's just a big enough induction that shouldn't be overshadowed by another one.
I have no doubts that Randy will be in the hall of fame eventually...sometime within the 5 years or so. And when he does, I guarantee you that rumors will run rampant about a possible Savage/Hogan encounter at that year's wrestlemania. There's alot of guys that you could question why they aren't in the Hall of Fame already.....but you gotta give it some time. Bruno Sarmantino isn't there yet, Bob Backland isn't there yet, Ricky Steamboat isn't there yet, Rick Rude, Ted Dibiase, Rick Martel, Rocky Johnson, Davey Boy Smith, The Legion of Doom, Curt Hennig. None of those guys are there either.....but like I said about Randy, there's no doubt that they will be in due time. I don't think it's a crime that he isn't there yet.....it's just a big enough induction that shouldn't be overshadowed by another one.
None of those guys deserve it as much as Savage though. I agree with you that there are a lot of deserving people but that is what makes me wonder why a guy like Eddie Guerrero is doing already in there. I mean he was good and all but I don't think he was great. Someone shouldn't be put in as quickly as he did. Bret Hart never should have made it before Savage either. He was the big guy in the WWF when no one was watching. After the big Hogan Savage era and then when he went to WCW he didn't help their ratings at all. One could argue that Lex Luger was a bigger pick up for them. I don't know, I just think the HOF is kind of a joke when you look at the guys who are in and the guys who are not.
Jeremy Dick
Pre-Show Stalwart
It does seem like WWE may have something against Savage. I know he's not in the HOF and eventually will probably be inducted, but presently it seems like there may be some tension, such as Savage not being mentioned ANYWHERE on the Wrestling Superstars of the 80's dvd, and that crappy Macho Libre segment on ECW. Maybe there is no beef, but it does kinda seem that way.
ShaneRamlall
Rated ''R'' Superstar
Its just timing. Have you even thought that macho has denied the HOF? It just depends on when Vince is ready to induct that person.
ChrisLAL31
Dark Match Jobber
For some reason Vince really does have beef with savage. Go to wikipedia and read savages profile it says that "Jakks Pacific tried to sign him up for the Classic Superstars line up only to be denied by Vince McMahon, despite the fact that he allowed them to sign a number of wrestlers on bad terms with WWE, including The Ultimate Warrior (signed twice by Jakks), Bruno Sammartino, and even Bret "the Hitman" Hart. Savage remains one of the few big stars who hasn't signed up with Jakks for a figure."
P
PauLwaLL
Guest
You cant really just add everyone to to HoF all in 3 years.. Im sure Savage will be in there in a matter of time.. But he isnt the only person that deserves to be in there that hasnt been inducted yet.. Take a look at Honkeytonk Man, Curt Henning, Ted Dibiase... Its just going to take some time, but I'm sure he will be in.
He is more deserving than all three of those guys you just named. You are talking about the guy that headlined Wrestlemania 4 and 5. Had great matches (believe it or not) with the Ultimate Warrior. Had the classic with Steamboat at wrestlemania 3. Won the WWF title twice, the WCW title a couple of times as well and snapped it to a slim jim like no one has ever done. Do not even put honkeytonk man, hennig, and dibiase in the same category they have never even held the world title. You can say Samartino and Backland but you can't say many more, and to be honest neither one of those guys had the charisma that Savage possessed.
P
PauLwaLL
Guest
Are you serious? Henning was just as good as a wrestler as Macho Man if not better.. As for Dibasie, once again just as good of a wrestler, and possibly the best heel of all time.. Macho Man does deserve to be in it, but theres still a whole list of other stars that deserve it just as much as him.. Once again it takes time.
Dude I am not saying that technically they weren't better wrestlers. However, they were never over as champions. They very rarely ever found themselves in the main event, and I can't think of one singles title other than the million dollar title, that dibiase ever held. I agree that he and Hennig and others should be in, my point is this is one of the greatest of all time that we are talking about here and he should be in. No way does Fridge Perry, Pete Rose, and even Eddie Guerrero get in if Savage isn't there. He needs to be inducted, soon.
Titles matter and Dibiase didn't get them. I beliieve that he should be in it as well, but Macho Man is one of the top 10 greatest of all time, neither of those guys come close to that category. Macho Man is as big as The Rock or Stone Cold because he lasted 15 years as a huge star in the business main eventing everything from Summerslam, to Wrestlemania, Starcade, Fall Brawl, you name it he did it. He is one of the best ever. OOOOOOOHHHHHHH YEAHHHHHH!
P
PauLwaLL
Guest
I never said you said that either...
Thats because neither man got the push that they deserved in there time.. There were wrestlers like Andre, Hogan, Savage, Snuka who all held them back because they were always at the top.. Thats why everytime you ask the question whos the best wrestler to never hold the WWE Title, there names come up...
They were inducted into the celeb hof... Big difference, and as for Eddie, he deserved to be in it just as much as any guy in the HoF.. The sad part of that is they didnt kno how great he was until he passed.
R
ROH_TNA
Guest
Vince Mcmahon hates Macho man because he slept with Stephanie Mcmahon when she was only 17. Vince didnt find out till Macho was in WCW.
But, That was only a rumor.
But, That was only a rumor.
ChrisLAL31
Dark Match Jobber
Thats crazy I just read the same thing.If you go to answers.com and read Savages profile it mentions the urban legend regarding Savage and Steph.
Banned Dysturbed
Occasional Pre-Show
slikrik84 said:
In all honesty does it really matter? The WWE hof isn't the true legit one rather it's more or less a gimmick. Sure it's probably an honor to be in it but the actual Pro Wrestling Hall Of Fame is the one that involves an extensive selection process. That's the one that is a true measure of one's achievements.
R
ROH_TNA
Guest
The hall of fame is a joke. They are already talking about triple H and Hbk being in the HOF. I dont think it means anything any more. I do think Macho man screwed Stephanie Mcmahon. There is more bad blood between macho man and Vince Mcmahon then there is between him and Jeff Jarrett.
P
PauLwaLL
Guest
They say "Future Hall of Famers" but anyone with wrestling knowledge would know that there both guarnteed it..
The Hall of Fame in the WWE really never had much meaning to it.. It has meaning, but its not as establshied as the "Profesional Wrestling Hall of Fame"
Thats a rumour.. And dont you actually think if it was true, Macho would of rape charges? It would make sence..
tha420dgnr8
Degenerate Mizfit
The legend of Savage sleeping with Steph is just that, legend. The reason Macho Man is not in the hall of fame is because Macho Man, much like sting, doesn't want to work for Vince and WWE, and even if he did, there will be no Savage as long as Hogan still is associated with them. The bad blood between Savage and Hogan goes wayyyyy back.
B
Bad Ass
Guest
There is a reason DiBiase never got the WWF Title and his name is Hulk Hogan. He got injured before he was able to get a run. I heard that Savage was offered, but declined the invitation.
Kasey
Connoiseur of the MILF
Savage was still active in the company through 1993 and 1994 but was relegated to midcard status and didn't leave on the best of terms with the company (relegated to fighting Crush at Wrestlemania X in a complete snoozer). The rumors of him and Stephanie are definitely a possibillity. Just like the rumors of Bret Hart cheating with Sunny. A lot happens backstage. What we see on TV is only a minute fraction of what's really happening.
B
BIGSEXYTHEGIANTKILLER
Guest
If it really is a HOF I think they should stop being biased and give the true legends the recognition they deserve.
P
PauLwaLL
Guest
Rougesrt said:
I kno your new and everything, but thats considered a spam... Please dont do that again
Read This
http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=452
H
Hazard
Guest
I'm pretty sure he's had alot of tensions with McMahon, i've heard they really don't like each other. That thing with Stephanie is just a myth, and I personally dont' believe it. I see him being inducted in the next 5 years.
