I fear that you are missing the point of the question here Lariat. The syntax were pretty unclear, but we're talking about whether Danielson's legacy will be the biggest in RoH, not whether RoH will be the biggest part of the American Dragon's legacy.
Whether Double J is remembered for TNA is not a relevant example; what's relevant is whether TNA is remembered for Jeff Jarrett.
Well, if the question is whether ROH will be the biggest part of Danielson's legacy, that's still up for debate. He just signed with the WWE full time. Only time will tell as far as how far he can go in the WWE. So, its only speculation at this point, and to be honest, if given the chance, the American Dragon can leave a HUGE mark in the WWE. Only time will tell though. And yes, the question is pretty unclear and frankly, I have very little clue other than watching some of Danielson's work on YouTube and word of mouth.
If you think that when people look back over the history of TNA that they are going to remember Somoa Joe as more important to the company than Jeff Jarrett then you're mournfully mistaken. You yourself admit, Jarrett but TNA on the map, much as Danielson did for RoH, and their legacies are set in stone.
I may or may not have said that, but to be honest, this whole topic's thrown me off. Samoa Joe might not have a bigger legacy than Jarrett, but other wrestlers could, and that's what my comparison was based on.
I'm not going to lie to you; deciphering that paragraph gave me some difficulty. Like I said before; down the line whether or not Danielson is remembered for his RoH of WWE work is immaterial; what matters is that his contributions to RoH are remembered above all others.
This may be true, but at this point, ROH is still active. IF ROH folded today, I'd say that Danielson would have the biggest legacy. Right now, there's still plenty of life in the ROH and as much as Danielson meant to ROH, someone can leave a bigger mark and bigger legacy than Danielson did. It's possible.
Just for the record though; nobody remembers Danielson as a guy who worked a couple of velocity matches, just like nobody thinks of Joe as that guy who wrestled Essa Rios. The only reason that those matches are recognised in the first place is because of the stature that those guys have later gone on to build.
As a wrestling fan, I knew nothing of Bryan Danielson. That may say a lot more about me as a fan, but I don't care. I never really payed attention to ROH. It's never available on TV and I usually don't see it as often on the internet unless someone brings it to my attention. So as far as a legacy is concerned, and what I remember Danielson for. I remember him from his matches against John Cena on Velocity. But that's just me, and I know I'm in the minority on that.
As for your actual counterargument... what can I say? You seem to be very depended on that somebody 'might' leave a greater legacy in RoH... despite all the evidence being against it happening.
Even is Austin Aeries goes on to main event in the company for another decade, everyone is still going to remember that, whilst Danielson was there, Aeries was playing second fiddle.
Only hardcore marks of ROH will remember that. If the promotion was to ever become mainstream without Danielson being there, you can bet that few will know of Danielson. They'll know of whomever the champion is who is main eventing at the time. Sure, Aries did play second banana to Danielson, but right now, Danielson's not there and the old saying goes, "Out of sight, out of mind."
It was Danielson who took RoH from a generic little indy federation and earned it national exposer. It was Danielson at the helm when RoH stepped up to take the mantle of number three promotion in America. Danielson was the companies most recognisable face when RoH finally took the biggest step in company history and signed a TV deal. Even Hulk Hogan can't be said to have taken a company that far.
Right now to those outside of the company, Danielson is Ring of Honor... and I don't see that changing. Sure it's possible that, with Nigel McGuinness at the helm, RoH is going to suddenly grow into America's most loves wrestling promotion, but I don't see it happening, and neither do you.
Danielson's done a lot for the promotion, and so did Jeff Jarrett in TNA, yet if you're asking if someone will leave a bigger mark than Danielson, I say yes. Same goes for TNA. That's where the comparison comes in. Right now, Kurt Angle IS TNA. Although he wrestled in the WWE at first, he's known as the face of TNA. Danielson's no longer in ROH, so McGuiness could overtake Danielson in the legacy department and in the face of ROH department. Leaving your mark is a part of it, but longevity is also key. Danielson didn't stick it out with ROH, so as far as I'm concerned, his Legacy is tarnished. And true, Hogan is only a big piece to a puzzle, not a foundation. Ask WCW.
Danielson has done more for the company than nay other man alive. He is the most high profile man the company's ever had. He's taken the company further than anybody else.
You're right, it's possible that somebody might out do him, but I don't think it's likely, and neither do you.
Well, in all fairness, I HAVE to convince people otherwise. What I think on the matter is irrelevant. I took the side of no, and have to stick with it. And as I do more research on the matter, it's more than possible, it's inevitable. With Danielson jumping ship, he's in essence saying, "I've left my mark, let's move on." Instead of "You know what, this is my baby, and I'm going to see this thing until the end." That to me says it all. His Legacy WAS set in stone, but now, it's a big question mark with him going to the WWE. I say McGuiness or Aries can leave a more telling Legacy for ROH than Danielson would when all's said and done.
EDIT: McGuiness just signed with the WWE. Whoops. So the McGuiness part of the convo is irrelevant at this point. It's up to Aries now. It just goes to show you, a legacy is sticking it out until the end, and now, neither McGuiness NOR Danielson has done that.
