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Unbelievable...Or is it?

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It seems like we almost said some reality-based and believable booking on tonight's RAW. John Cena was featured in a gauntlet match where he got his ass pounded by both Jericho and a 400-pound Big Show, where he was held in two powerful submission holds for a descent amount of time each. After Big Show let all of his weight off of John, Orton comes out, assuming to finish him off. Cena some how gets magical, super-healing powers and energy, doesn't sell a damn thing that just happened, not one ounce of pain is shown from the ass-kicking he got, and Orton turns into a chicken shit while the cell was being lowered. Cena worked up the strength after the severe beating to get the best of Orton without showing any wear-and-tear. Orton should've just pounded the hell out of him the second he got out there but Super-Cena feeds into his magical powers that I didn't realize were part of his gimmick. I guess when we become optimistic that the WWE will change things up and strike some spark, change, and real-ness, it turns back to cheap, outdated, Hulkamania rip-offs.
 
It is a little believable since both of them usually don't sell anything they do at times but not all time. But while randy Orton was in the ring getting beat up by cena he should sold it alittle longer and shouldn't have been able to climb that cage.
 
Somehow I knew that he wasn't going to get destroyed by Orton. And I wish I didn't read the HIAC spoiler on the main page because I wouldn't have been so "yeah ok I see now" and rather more excited. It looked like Cena had out-smarted Orton with the HIAC... and I know Randy was scared and all but the idea that he would rather try to escape before it came down than beat up on a Cena who has just been demolished by Y2J/Show is just stupid. I don't care HOW chicken-shit they are making him be....

And sadly this was to be expected after the cage came down. Status Quot for predictability of WWE's part
Super Cena reigns supreme... again.... sigh...
 
It appears that an invisible Super Mario comes in the ring to give Poster Boy PG some magic mushrooms...As well, Am I the only 1 who clinches my fist in anger whenever Poster Boy smiles in a situation that's supposed to be anger and serious?
 
to add fuel to the fire, wwe.com lists that John Cena was the winner of the gauntlet match. If I recall it had to end in a pinfall or submission.
I agree, this is exactly back to the Hulkamania days, except for one thing....with Hogan we didn't have to see him be superman every week, just at the ppv's. Now we are stuck watching it over and over again, and it's become quite force fed.
 
Um ever heard of adrenalin? It hits you at moments of terror and things like sometimes. I no I am looking a little to deep but after you had just got beat up by Jericho and Show, and a guy that is known to punt people in the head and lay them out for months comes down and locks you in a cage, you dont think some super adrenalin would kick in. Lol yeah i no I am reaching pretty hard here but I had to defend my boy Cena. Cena is great for the buisness because he does exactly what he is told no questions asked and makes the company a ton of money. I didnt like Cena but my daughter started kindergarden this year. I saw at least 40 kindergarden students go to school their first day wearing Cena shirts. Hate all you want but this guy is responsible for helping to build a whole future genration of wrestling fans and the kiddies love it when Cena hulks er I mean gets that adrenalin rush and beats down the bad guy.
 
I agree with you all the way, what a crock! what should have happend is as orton was walking out the cell should have lowered with Jericho and Big Show still in the ring. Have 3 on 1 attack and beat down cena, cuz we all know hes gonna retain anyways at the PPV. Cena's character is STALE!!!! turn him heel, it would work cuz all the little kids would hate him.
 
Um ever heard of adrenalin? It hits you at moments of terror and things like sometimes. I no I am looking a little to deep but after you had just got beat up by Jericho and Show, and a guy that is known to punt people in the head and lay them out for months comes down and locks you in a cage, you dont think some super adrenalin would kick in. Lol yeah i no I am reaching pretty hard here but I had to defend my boy Cena. Cena is great for the buisness because he does exactly what he is told no questions asked and makes the company a ton of money. I didnt like Cena but my daughter started kindergarden this year. I saw at least 40 kindergarden students go to school their first day wearing Cena shirts. Hate all you want but this guy is responsible for helping to build a whole future genration of wrestling fans and the kiddies love it when Cena hulks er I mean gets that adrenalin rush and beats down the bad guy.

For the record it was CENA who locked in ORTON, not the other way around...

And I personally don't care for Cena in the ring but have a tons of respect for the man becuase as you said he's ushering in the next generation of fans and is a hell of a human being outside of the wrestling ring. I've never heard of anyone being involved in HALF as many of the positive things that man is.

I just have an issue with him in ring not really doing his part. I have seen him pre-WWE (yea I spent some time on youtube and elsewhere) and before he wasn't half bad. Even in his early WWE career he wasn't half bad. I wonder what made him switch it up later on... but that's another topic for another time lol
 
I have no clue why they couldn't have Cena sell his injuries. Still it's not as bad as when Big Show threw Cena through that spotlight and somehow Cena was able to come back the next night on Raw and start whooping on The Big Show. I understand he is the Hulk Hogan of the new generation but damn at least Hogan sold injuries that guys like Andre The Giant and Earthquake gave him.

But I agree with the rest of you. We all know he's going to retain Sunday so they should have just let the show end with JeriShow and Randy Orton beating him down in the lowered Hell In The Cell.
 
Hulk Hogan would only be Superman at PPV, but Cena does it week in, week out and it's getting very old. Cena could at least sell 1 injury a month since he gets destroyed it seems every week. Cena will no doubt retain now since Jericho, Big Show and Orton beat him down and this feud will not end this way just yet.
 
Well I don't like this whole thing and it is fucking with Ortons character, I mean what credibility do you have if you can't beat down a man who just had his ass whupped by a giant? God damn!!

But still, Cena is a Cena does, all we can hope for is a decent finish to the HiaC and not the tap out after three seconds in the STF finish that we got at breaking point.

I like Cena but this made no sense at all.
 
First of all, Cena DID sell the beating very well. If you notice, Randy Orton was too busy being the viper instead of rushing to the ring and capitalizing on Cena being down. It took Orton forever to get into the ring, and by the time he did, it makes perfect sense for Cena to be recovered, especially when you consider that adrenaline did pump in and that Cena's character IS Superman like.

Now here is what I don't understand. I don't understand how everyone, smarks and marks alike, don't complain about the unrealism of The Undertaker's character...not only his supernatural powers of the occult but his ability to recover instantly as well....but yet even though Taker can send lightning crashing down by ringside, create fire with his hands AND recover quickly after attacks....John Cena can't just recover quickly after attacks....because that would be unrealistic. Contradiction anyone? And before anyone says it's because Taker is so good at his character, who is to say Cena isn't good at his superman character? Bottom line, if you're going to complain about Cena being unrealistic,for God's sakes let's complain about The Undertaker.
 
i agree 100% orton talked about how he was going to beat the hell out of cena at hell in a cell. y would be not just beat the hell out of cena right then and there. if orton is a true bad ass heel then he should have liked having the cage around them instead of running like a bitch. ya total bullshit. jericho held the walls for ever!!! at one point it be comes obviouse that he isnt really hurting him. and after all that focus on his back he could still lift big show and still climb the cage and still give the FU to orton (adittude adjustment is the worst finishing move name ever)

to CKDaimen: i'd have to say it's because the IWC bassically hates cena. and that is part of the undertakers gimmick. he's the undertaker. he's been to hell and back. he's a crazy demon. cena is just a man. i get where u r coming from but cena did not sell his injuries at all. it was like the first 2 matches never happend. undertaker just makes comebacks just like any good face does.
 
I saw Big Show and Jericho beating up on Cena and I assumed one of two things would happen: 1) Orton comes down and and just destroys Cena to end the show or 2) Batista and Mysterio come out and take out Jerishow allowing Cena to fight Orton cleanly. After seeing Orton come out, I switched to the daily show, but when I go back to Raw I see Cena chasing Orton up a cell. I couldn't believe it and like most of you, think it was pretty ridiculous. But honestly, this doesn't happen every week like some people are saying. It happens at most pay per views and once in a while on tv.

CKDaimen does make a good point. Undertaker does do the same thing yet never gets criticized. I also remember the Rock often getting beat up pretty bad during a match but still finding a way to win in the end. I think this Raw with Cena on top of the cage was over the top, but stuff like this has happened with superstars before and if anyone should be trying to pull it off today, it should be Cena.
 
I think after watching a little of raw last night (i turned it off halfway through cause i was wicked bored), i realized just how much i hate the Cena character.I'm not talking about how much i hate his stale gimmick, I'm talking about how wwe trys to persuade us to think Cena is an underdog. Its every ppv or pretty much every match they do something to make Cena seem like he has a 0 percent chance of winning and then have Michael Cole repeat it like 12 times. Then when the match comes he gets destroyed, then all of the sudden he....well we all know how his matches are.
 
This was seriously the worst ending I've seen in a while. We all know Cena will retain at HIAC so why not let him get jacked up for a night just to put a little doubt in our mind that Cena might now be able to do it? Something over than Cena being given special healing powers and now beating Orton. Just bad booking. Orton looked bad and just showed how bad it will be Sunday.
 
I agree with most here. Cena should not have went from Clark to Superman in 12 seconds. However, if anyone on Raw is going to do something like this, it can only be Cena. Cena is Superman and that damn Spinning Title is his cape.

What should have happen was, after Team Best Ever’s beat down, Orton should have come down, cut a 30 second promo, called out the rest of Legacy to lower the cage and have a 5 on 1 beat down inside the Cell. Then have DX come out and try to break the cage. After a minute or two of trying to get in, have Batista and Rey come out with Batista breaking the cage door with his hands. That would have made exciting TV!! That would have set Friday's Main Event up real nicely.
 
It took Orton like 5 minutes to get into the ring and for Cena to stand up. That's more than enough time to get recovered.

And don't forget,,,Cena and Orton and DX and Legacy are on SmackDown this week. Look for Cena and DX to get a beat down there.
 
I'm reading what you all are putting out there, and I can see your point of view. Yes...it is unrealistic, but so is most everything else we get, so what's the difference?

Alright, supposing we go to realism here for a moment. There's one explanation besides sudden adrenaline rush that hasn't been mentioned yet: Supposing John Cena was actually using his brain in this match and (in character) over-selling his injuries at the hands of Jericho and Big Show just to get those matches out of the way, lead the others into a false sense of security (including Orton) just so he could draw Orton in, signal for the lowering of the cage (as he did) and then have Orton all to himself without the interference of Jerishow or Legacy. This would explain why Cena, not Orton, signaled for the cage to be lowered as well as the sudden "recovery" of John Cena.

I'd like to point out also that since the end of the Triple H/Orton feud, the WWE has seriously weakened Orton, reducing him to striking refs and running away to retain titles as well as saying "I Quit" at first opportunity at Breaking Point and getting his slithering butt handed to him on a slate with a side of bacon by Batista in his farewell-to-Raw match. Orton is being billed as seriously not as good as he once was in terms of actual ability, only getting to be more cowardly and more of a cheat. Under those circumstances, I have to say the end of that gauntlet match was...rather fitting.
 
Randy Orton's career is in serious jeopardy because of Raw's booking, I'm not even going to get into it all the scrapping of the IED angle was a epic mistake he had the whole WWE universe in the palm of his hands.

But right now he's more of a jobber than a Main Event guy the man simply can't win without large amounts of help and even then he still can't win like last night. How does creative expect the only top heel on Raw to keep credibility ? They are jobbing him left and right he's taking the fall in most of his matches tag single whatever.

This is another reason why Raw is having issues with so many faces Orton is the only guy who can take a fall and give them a rub, so he's getting victimized to the point where the fans might consider him a joke which is dangerous on many levels.

For god sakes they need to Smackdown heels (Jerishow) to come to Raw every week because of the lack of main event heel talent, Raw is in trouble and it's starting to show with their 3.1 rating this week.

Ok Rant over I'm just a big Orton fan and will never understand the awful booking injustices creative has done to him over the last year.
 

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