Total Non-Stop Edge Thread (**No More Threads Relating To Him Please**)

[Sparky]

With what edge has accomplished in his career he deserves to win the title for the fifth time. He is entertaining a really good heel and is the best wrestler on smackdown at the moment. He just needs a couple of guys from raw to come over during the draft so he has some more entertaining fueds. You are right though edge can now take a seat and kick it back a few notches if he wants becouse he is a permenate ME player now. not that i dont think he was before. I can defenatly see edge being inducted into the hall of fame in the future, but in the mean time lets sit back and enjoy the rated R era once more

 

[Rusty]

Edge is good, but I still think he is a little overrated by many. Now I like Edge alot don't get me wrong, but in some matches hes just so ordinary. So o.k he had a great match with the Undertaker at ONS, but he needed it to be a TLC match to put on a great match. Watch Undertaker vs Edge at the previous 2 ppvs and see how ordinary the matches are. They are good matches but not 5 star classics. Their Backlash and Judgment matches isn't up to the standards like I thought they should be.

Edge being a 5 time World Champion is great, but look at the reigns hes had. His 1st reign was pointless and last only 3 weeks. His 2nd reign lasted 3 months, his 3rd reign lasted 2 months because of injury.

The only Edge World Champion reign that in my opinion has truly meant something is his 4th reign. This 5th reign squashes anybody's predictions about Edge going to Raw... I'm sorry to say but I told you so. I knew Edge wasn't switching brands and I'm happy with him staying on Smackdown!

 

[Taker316]

Ok. So i seen on the homepage, that it looks like they're going in the direction of Batista challenging Edge for the title again. Not sure if its true, but i HOPE to god its not! For the love of god have we not seen that done ENOUGH!? I personally would rather watch Taker vs Edge in 10 more PPV's in a row then have to watch him vs Batista one more time! Is this really the best they can do honestly??

I'm thinkin if it does happen though, it'll likely only last till the draft (another few weeks) but still im beyond sick of seein them 2 put on half assed matches again (Mostly Batista, Edge is a great worker)

 

[John87]

yeah i dont really like the idea of Edge and Batista again because, well it sucks. it was interesting when it began but after awhile they were going nowhere with it and i think even the athletes themselves probably got bored over it. However, if this does actually happen, they may have improved the idea somehow. why bring it back if they didnt you know? i also think that it would be interesting to see them two get into a heated rivalry and one of them get moved, mainly Fagtista, and it kind of puts Edge into a cool mood like HAHA HES GONE and then Takers gong goes off and it scares the shit out of him. that would be worth watching. but if this happens again, i hope they go somewhere with it because last time it was boring as hell and i sort of stopped watching it because of that but i tuned in again when the program was over. so hopefully this time its going to be good instead of a bore.

 

[DeadmanInc.]

I'm not surprised since Smackdown's main event scene has always been about Edge/Batista/Taker this past year. I really wish they would take this opportunity to push MVP instead of recycling an old feud.

I'm anxious to see what happens with the whole Vickie angle now that Edge's biggest threat is gone.

 

[klunderbunker]

This to me just goes to show how bad the main event scene really is on SD. THey have 3 people to push. For some reason they insist on MVP still being with the US title, Big Show is on ECW again, they seem afraid of Shelton, and Punk just isn't ready on all levels. Edge and Batista had one of the longest feuds in the past few years, and it's way too recent for it to work again. It means another 3 months of the same stuff, ending with a blow off match probably at Summerslam. Means just more dissappointment for Friday nights if it's true.

 

[notyou13]

PLEASE NOT AGAIN! I'll rather see C.M. punk cash in the money in the bank case . I don't think edge and batista are a pay per view match any more 4real. They used it up when it was good now to bring it back up is stupid. it's too many up coming wrestlers to keeping pushing batista. try wrestlers nobody expected that's money.(BIG HINT SWITCH MR.KENNEDY TO SD! AND PUSH)AND THINKING THAT KENNEDY NOT READY WILL BE A MISTAKE

 

[tehblogger]

I find it hard to believe they're so dumb as to rehash Edge and Batista. Most likely we'll have a mini-feud before the draft, where I expect to see SD gain heavily in terms of ME material (and/or potential material). Like as not Edge's next major feud will be with Cena or Jericho.

 

[Jest XXL]

I cannot wait until Tuesday now to see the smackdown spoilers! I hope they dont have another Edge/Batista fued, I think Batista-HBK-Jericho at night of champions would be good in a triple threat to end that storyline.

Meanwhile over on Smackdown maybe they could have a suprise #1 contender such as festus or MVP for the match at NOC and then get serious again after the draft when a top face will probably come to Smackdown. However Edge might turn on vickie now and maybe bring taker back? We'll just have to see!

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

I DESPERATELY don't want to see Edge/Batista again.

I don't care if we get Edge/Kofi for Christ's sake, just not Batista again. I was so happy to see that he might be taking time off....as they seem determined to keep him a boring face.....so I'm hoping that this was just an idea thrown around and not being taken seriously.

Love Edge as champ...hate Vickie...hate Chavo...hate Neely....don't like Hawkins & Ryder as jobbers but I think they could be useful.....not a fan of Batista...love Taker....this blows haha.

 

[Shocky]

Well, Edge is now a five time champion, and that moves him up into some rather prestigous ground.

Edge is now tied for number 16 all time with 5 title reigns with Maurice Vachon. He has now moved past many far more "established" and bigger name wrestlers as far as number of pure title reigns.

But the more important number is at this point, what has he done compared to guys and there runs in the WWE? Well that number 16 drops and puts Edge into even more prestigous territory, especially considering his success in the biggest company in North America.

Championship Titles won in the WWE Only.
Triple H 12
The Rock 9
Hulk Hogan 6
Steve Austin 6
The Undertaker 6
Kurt Angle 6

and tied with Bret Hart at 5

Also, "retiring" the Undertaker doesn't look to shabby as well.

The only thing that hurts Edge's claim is total number of days holding the championship. However, with no credible main eventers left on Smackdown, a lengthy title reign is on the Horizon, barring injury, and he could sky rocket past many of the guys ahead of him.

 

[DeadmanInc.]

I just looked at Edge's list of titles and Triple H's prior to 2003/heavy politicking year and they are really similar. Edge is like Triple H before he got stale. He is without a doubt the best heel right now.

Even though some of his title reigns have been short, they all have been memorable or shocking.

Reign 1 - First ever MitB cash-in, no one saw it coming.
Reign 2 - Won the title on RAW. First time this happened in 5 years.
Reign 3 - Again, another shocking title steal with the MitB and on Smackdown. A victory over the Undertaker also earns quite a few bragging rights.
Reign 4 - Nothing too memorable here, but Edge's heel tactics were amazing in this match.
Reign 5 - A victory over the legendary Undertaker and "retiring" him.

 

[Dalkonian]

I definitely don't want to see it happen any time soon, but I truly believe that if he wanted to, he could, and he could easily. He's got the charisma and mic skills to pull it off...also, never underestimate the power of the 2 words "I'm sorry". So many people have pulled this move in the past that it's not funny...piss the crowd off one week and they're hating you, "I'm sorry" the next, and the crowd loves you again. For a guy as charismatic as Edge is, He could do it easily and the crowd would be behind him completely.

All that being said though, I think he makes for a much better heel, in my opinion. He's way more over as this particular heel character than I ever remember him being as a face.

 

[Canadian Knight]

I know that you are not supposed to like a heel after all that is his (or hers) job. But with Edge they make him look like he can't win any match by himself. I know that he is not the best wrestler and that in a match between him and Batista he would most likely lose. Should he even be World Heavy Weight Champion or WCW Champion? I can see him as a great heel IC champion, but not as World Champ.

 

[Italian MVP]

I know that you are not supposed to like a heel after all that is his (or hers) job. But with Edge they make him look like he can't win any match by himself. I know that he is not the best wrestler and that in a match between him and Batista he would most likely lose. Should he even be World Heavy Weight Champion or WCW Champion? I can see him as a great heel IC champion, but not as World Champ.

They make him look like he cant win any matches because thats part of his gimmick, "The Rated R Oppurtunist" and thats why he is made to look like that. Yeh it sucks but it fits him perfectly, i just wish they let him show his natural ablility off more often instead of make him rely on La Famila every single time. Make him show his wrestling skills, because i promisie you, Edge is far from a bad wreslter, he is one of the best, if not the best heel wrestler in the business today. All it comes down too is him playing these heel tatics which are restricting him from showing what he does best, wrestle. But thats just part of his persona he has, so that is why he is made to look weak, which in my opinon is getting old and he should be giving more chances to wrestle matches the proper way. And Batista, please, Edge is the far superior wrestler to Batista, lol.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Well, he doesn't need to be the type of heel that CAN'T win matches by himself just to maintain the heel gimmick of "ultimate opportunist". "Heel that can't win matches by himself" seems to fit someone like Santino more than a world champion. Edge should be shown to have enough skills to warrant him being in the main event level, but that he cheats to be at the top of it. Think of it as a race between two guys. They're neck and neck all the way through, until Edge throws down the marbles and makes the other guy trip, so that he runs through the tape first. That's definitely heel, that's definitely "ultimate opportunist", but at the same time, he doesn't look too weak. He might have won it anyway, but to make sure he did, he cheated.

One of the reasons I liked his match against Taker at One Night Stand was that Edge was fighting back. The match didn't start with a 5-on-1 attack. The majority of the match was just Edge/Taker, until Edge was clearly down. Then, because he had been bested, they attacked. Undertaker fights back, but Edge does the dirty deed himself and puts the final nail in the coffin. Outside of that match and their WrestleMania match, every other time they've had a confrontational situation, Edge has been made to look like he depends solely on gang-ups and can't get anything done himself. That's not "ultimate opportunist", that's "weak".

Edge has the skills to be the type of heel champion that is 50/50 throughout the entire match until he distracts the ref and cracks his opponent over the head with a steel chair to pick up the victory. Heel, takes advantage of the opportunity, but doesn't look weak because he simply took that one cheap extra boost to win as opposed to constant 5-1 outnumbering where the opponent STILL beats all 5 of them down like they're nothing.

 

[matty256]

i think edge is a great superstar and a future hall of famer no doubt i just wish that vinnie would let edge have a clean victory for once over a babyface i mean think about it edge everytime hes won the title hes cheated i wish they would give him a clean win in a title match with a main event guy example summerslam 2004 randy orton defeted chris beniot cleanly and it shocked everybody

 

[Sparky]

Sorry to bump this thread but it's the only thread aloud for edge.
I think edge is Changing character slightly. it looked like it last week on smackdown. He has gotten rid of La familia broken up with Vickie and is on his own once more. Its obvious that the wwe wont turn the biggest heel face. i think this is good becouse Edge play's an excellent heel but the relying on other's to win the matches for him get old after a while. i think it's time for edge to become a Monster type heel. winning matches by cunning plans and what not. Not by cheating like he does now. He was perfect two years ago when he had that hardcore match with mick foley, and then again when he was rated RKO i seriously think Edge would be a better hit going back to that way then any other way.

 

[simplejt1985]

I love Edge. He is currently my FAVORITE wrestler in the WWE. Not my favorite of all-time. That goes to Sting, Kurt Angle, HBK, and the Undertaker. Oh yeah, Ric Flair and Bret Hart. But Edge has potential to be bigger than all of these guys by the end of his career.

He has done things everyone else didn't really accomplished. I'm not going to go through all his title reigns because everyone on this discussion already did that. But I'm going to point out some of the things he has done that no one has brought up. Ya'll say he didn't have memorable matches. Did him and Christian (Who are my favorite tag team ever) not put on classic matches at Wrestlemania 2000 with the triple tag ladder match and the first two TLC matches at Summerslam 2000 and Wrestlemania 2001. Not only were the matches classic but Edge took some of the biggest spots during those matches including the spear while Jeff Hardy was hanging from the rope. Then, when you think about it, who won all three of those matches? Edge and Christian. But people try to say that the Hardys and Dudleys were the better tag team. They're still teaming up with each other while Edge prospered to bigger and better things. And how ironic I mention them as my favorite tag team and I didn't dislike Christian but I wasn't a big fan of him. But I love him when he was with Edge. And when I think about it, hasn't he held multiple world title reigns in TNA. Three time world champ he is. How ironic is that? The team that no one ever really gave the credit to both end up as singles success. They both prospered out of those TLC matches. Oh yeah, what wrestler is the reason for Kurt Angle currently being bald headed? The Rated R superstar.

He has held five world title reigns in just two years. Two time WWE champ and three time world champ. And to think people were hating him and booing him as a face. I tell you one thing, everyone who started booing him is the reason he's the big star now. I think when he got booed as a face really opened his eyes and ever since then, Edge has really not gave a f**k about how he goes about his business. And look where its gotten him...the biggest heel in WWE and probably the biggest heel in professional wrestling to date. The heat he gets is crazy. He's getting more heat than Triple H did back in Evolution. And truth be told, I see Edge beating Undertaker in the Hell in a Cell at Summerslam. At least that's what I'm hoping for. Edge will benefit greatly out of this match than the Undertaker because he still has so much more to prove.

It's funny when I think about his current situation on Smackdown. He's the heel but it seems like he's the face because everything has fallen right smack on his face. HHH did a heel move and screwed up his marriage life which cause Edge the title at GAB. This is a test for Edge now. How is he going to handle these next few months without no support from his wife and his La Familia? Now he's really about to shine as he proves to the WHOLE WORLD that he's one of the greatest wrestlers to ever step in that ring. That's including Stone Cold and The Rock. I can't really say he will be bigger than HBK. He's the greatest wrestler to ever grace the ring, along with Sting, Flair, Kurt Angle, and Bret Hart. By the end of his career, Edge will go down as one of the top 10 greatest of all-time.

This is coming from the #1 Edge fan. Let's get it in Edge.

 

[slickman123]

I love Edge. He is currently my FAVORITE wrestler in the WWE. Not my favorite of all-time. That goes to Sting, Kurt Angle, HBK, and the Undertaker. Oh yeah, Ric Flair and Bret Hart. But Edge has potential to be bigger than all of these guys by the end of his career.

He has done things everyone else didn't really accomplished. I'm not going to go through all his title reigns because everyone on this discussion already did that. But I'm going to point out some of the things he has done that no one has brought up. Ya'll say he didn't have memorable matches. Did him and Christian (Who are my favorite tag team ever) not put on classic matches at Wrestlemania 2000 with the triple tag ladder match and the first two TLC matches at Summerslam 2000 and Wrestlemania 2001. Not only were the matches classic but Edge took some of the biggest spots during those matches including the spear while Jeff Hardy was hanging from the rope. Then, when you think about it, who won all three of those matches? Edge and Christian. But people try to say that the Hardys and Dudleys were the better tag team. They're still teaming up with each other while Edge prospered to bigger and better things. And how ironic I mention them as my favorite tag team and I didn't dislike Christian but I wasn't a big fan of him. But I love him when he was with Edge. And when I think about it, hasn't he held multiple world title reigns in TNA. Three time world champ he is. How ironic is that? The team that no one ever really gave the credit to both end up as singles success. They both prospered out of those TLC matches. Oh yeah, what wrestler is the reason for Kurt Angle currently being bald headed? The Rated R superstar.

He has held five world title reigns in just two years. Two time WWE champ and three time world champ. And to think people were hating him and booing him as a face. I tell you one thing, everyone who started booing him is the reason he's the big star now. I think when he got booed as a face really opened his eyes and ever since then, Edge has really not gave a f**k about how he goes about his business. And look where its gotten him...the biggest heel in WWE and probably the biggest heel in professional wrestling to date. The heat he gets is crazy. He's getting more heat than Triple H did back in Evolution. And truth be told, I see Edge beating Undertaker in the Hell in a Cell at Summerslam. At least that's what I'm hoping for. Edge will benefit greatly out of this match than the Undertaker because he still has so much more to prove.

It's funny when I think about his current situation on Smackdown. He's the heel but it seems like he's the face because everything has fallen right smack on his face. HHH did a heel move and screwed up his marriage life which cause Edge the title at GAB. This is a test for Edge now. How is he going to handle these next few months without no support from his wife and his La Familia? Now he's really about to shine as he proves to the WHOLE WORLD that he's one of the greatest wrestlers to ever step in that ring. That's including Stone Cold and The Rock. I can't really say he will be bigger than HBK. He's the greatest wrestler to ever grace the ring, along with Sting, Flair, Kurt Angle, and Bret Hart. By the end of his career, Edge will go down as one of the top 10 greatest of all-time.

This is coming from the #1 Edge fan. Let's get it in Edge.

Tottaly agree it seems vince o mac even rates edge higher then triple h smackdown has been all about edge right now while triple even though he is champion fills the mid card matches sooner or later edge will be champion again because hes the best dam thing in the wwe right now period

 

[Garry00]

Edge still needs to get a couple of semi-clean big wins to look like a real champion. He's too often made to look like a jobber getting a lucky win rather than the main event heel swinging matches in his favour with a bit of underhanded trickery. There was a segment after Chris Masters vs Cena or something in 2006 where Edge and Cena started fighting afterwards and Edge dominated him very-almost-on-his-own to HUGE heat. He almost looked like a top heel right then. Then the week after they had him run away from something like the Brooklyn Brawler and look awful.

Sadly WWE hasn't really made anyone "the man" since Triple H around 2000. Angle and Jericho were fun but they seemed to disappear pretty quicky. Orton flopped. Maybe Cena, but I can't stand him.

Edge has been a heel for ages now. Babyface Edge would be fresh if they evolved the psychotic side into some kind of anti-hero gimmick. There's a lack of heels at the moment though so it isn't likely. Nobody could imagine Triple H making a face turn in 2000 since he got so much heel heat but in July they started portraying him as the good guy in a feud against Kurt Angle, and suddenly he was immensely popular (until they turned him again against austin about 8 weeks later anyway). If someone's really over as a heel they can be over as a face in the matter of a couple of shows. "Love and hate are essentially the same emotion" and whatnot.

 

[MisterRob]

Edge has been a heel for ages now. Babyface Edge would be fresh if they evolved the psychotic side into some kind of anti-hero gimmick. There's a lack of heels at the moment though so it isn't likely. Nobody could imagine Triple H making a face turn in 2000 since he got so much heel heat but in July they started portraying him as the good guy in a feud against Kurt Angle, and suddenly he was immensely popular (until they turned him again against austin about 8 weeks later anyway). If someone's really over as a heel they can be over as a face in the matter of a couple of shows. "Love and hate are essentially the same emotion" and whatnot.

Why would you get rid of the BEST heel in the entire company right when he's at his prime and doing his best stuff as a heel? That's not sound logic to me. I have to agree with greatapes83, the last two weeks of Smackdown have ended with a really great segment with Edge in it and I like the direction they're going with him.

 

[DerringerEagle]

The one thing that really bothers me latley is all these Undertaker freaks claiming that he deserves a long title run after he "destroys" Edge at Summerslam. Why? Why does he deserve it more than Edge? What has he done in the last year that even compares to the work Edge has done on Smackdown.

I am sorry Undertaker fans, but Smackdown is Edge's show now. He has been lighting up the screen for close to a year, so much so, his promos are the main event at the end. Quite frankly, the whole deadman routine is getting old and tiresome. Only excited young kids love it because of the entrance theatrics. If anyone deserves a long title run at the top, it's Edge. He has earned it far more than the Undertaker.


The Eagle has spoken

 

[Shocky]

So Summerslam is over, Edge loses to the Undertaker in the Cell, but despite what some may say, Edge lost zero credibility at all in this feud. If anything Edge is now a solid major player, and it can't be disputed at this point.

When people used to attack Edge's credibility, it was his lack of feuds and solid matches with main eventers that were the two negatives, with John Cena and now the Undertaker, Edge has had two series of matches that simply can be described as epic.

So where do we go from here? Presumably the goofy Edge is once again gone. The Undertaker has driven another wrestler to the brink of psychosis. This isn't exactly the cocky Rater R Superstar, this is something different, something a bit looney.

The obvious comparison, and wrestling loves to jump on mainstream stuff (see the rumors of if Rocky Balboa was a success, then Hogan or Flair may have gotten another title run). The Dark Knight is a smash hit, and the Joker is the talk of the town. I see a Edge trying to play off of that character, maybe not so over the top, but there is a sense of that type of change for the Edge character.

Now that Edge has gone to hell, and looks to be gone for maybe a month or so to sell the cell, where does he come back and how? Is he going to return to the cowardly, opportunistic heel and crawl back to Vickie, is he going to be the Rated R Superstar once more, or is he going to comeback more crazy then ever.

For my money, I think the Edge character is going to go completely nutball. I see a combination of the Joker, Brian Pillmans Loose Cannon, and possibly a darker, almost Brood-esque return of Edge, with a touch of Mankind. Someone that is sick, and willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done. I think you saw this manifest itself with the Undertaker becoming Edge at the end of the sell match. the Undertaker had to become his enemy to defeat him, I see the same thing with this. Edge has become teh undertaker in a little ways.

 

[My$terio_Fan]

Edge right now is at his best in terms of credibility and character. The cowardly Edge was good and all but he played second fiddle(heat wise) to Vickie. This Edge is so demented, insane, and "joker" like that he's a bit scary. I really hope when he does come back, he comes back darker, crazier, almost monster kane like. This angle has the chance to prove Edge is the main heel and as good as any.