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I still think it would have happened under anyones watch. We havent been attacked since, I give him cudo's for that.

You haven't been attacked under a lot of president's watches. But you got a fucking massive kick in the nuts under Bush. Whether he could have stopped it or not, he didn't keep you safe.
 
You haven't been attacked under a lot of president's watches. But you got a fucking massive kick in the nuts under Bush. Whether he could have stopped it or not, he didn't keep you safe.

But he opened up a can of whoop ass after that. We may have been attacked once, but he made sure it didnt happen again.
 
But he opened up a can of whoop ass after that.

Many would argue a disproportionate, unethical, unfair and unfounded can of whoop ass, opened under false pretences.

We may have been attacked once, but he made sure it didnt happen again.

Yeah, but he didn't keep you safe, as you claimed. Thousands died and two symbols of America were destroyed. That's hardly safe.
 
They killed thousands of people. If that's not worthy of opening up a can of whoop ass I dont know what is.
 
Bush,



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YOU'RE FIRED!!
 
Because you're an idiot CCS. You SERIOUSLY think Obama will be worse then Bush? Ha. That's laughable. Bush may not have been the worst president we've ever had, but I guarantee you; unless Obama SEVERELY fucks up; he won't be seen as worse then Bush. The only problem is, no one will see the good Obama does do for years to come, only the bad. It's going to be about how he handles the bad, not how he creates the good.
 
Ok, first of all, I can't stand Bush, but to blame 9/11 on his is absurd. Yes I'm sure that happened because he was in office. Wake up. It would have happened under anyone. Bush's reaction to it was why he was an awful President.
 
Ok, first of all, I can't stand Bush, but to blame 9/11 on his is absurd. Yes I'm sure that happened because he was in office. Wake up. It would have happened under anyone. Bush's reaction to it was why he was an awful President.

I don't think anyone's blaming him (well so far in this thread), but to say he kept us safe is a false claim no matter how look at it, whether it be his fault or not.

And I don't know about Obama not keeping us safe...that's not a premonition that we can make so early on, but if you were looking for him to talk more about war than peace (in his speech), well that's not right either, because peace is ideal, war isn't.

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I don't believe Bush was the WORST president we've had, but he was up there. He gets a bad rep because he was put in some very shitty situations, some because of his own stupidity, others not so much. The man was/is a full-blooded patriot, and his response was that of a Patriot. Go in guns blazing, having anger cloud your judgement BUT he also declared war on a country, not the actual terrorist forces. He was cleaning up daddies mess.

Basically; Bush has made it that so Obama could shit on the White House lawn and still be seen as a better president. Then again, Obama will be judged on how he handles the problems not for the good he could/will do.
 
What happened to Ted Kennedy?

They was showing him on tv before I went running and when I came back they said something happened to him.
 
I'm not arguing damned politics, it's useless.

The eternal cop out line of one who's dug himself in far too deep.

I have to agree with CCS though. I'm really fearful that Obama will sell the US to terrorists, make our women wear head scarves, convert us all to Islam, and then take a giant shit on a bald eagle.
 

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