TNA Bashing Hypocrites, Report for duty!(Raw Related)

First off there was no opponent for Bryan. The point of that was to draw more heat on Miz while at the same time NOT burying Bryan too. These two have history, its Bryan who won the US title from Miz. Last week or the week before they had a GREAT match. Bryan will get a match a WM...they will build that in the weeks to come.
Yes there was. Daniel Bryan was being introduced for a match and Miz attacked him. It doesn't matter what history they have, the only reason Miz attacked Bryan was literally cut more wrestling from the show and head straight to the main event. It was a pointless move that generated more confusion and heat on the booking than it did for The Miz.

As for the Divas...are you really that upset that the Divas battle royal was half over during a commercial? From what I saw, it was half over BEFORE the commercial. All the good wrestlers were out in favor of the lesser "twin magic" Bella twins. I can pretty much guarantee they (or one) will win the title...only for Awesome Kong to come out the next night and challenge and destroy both of them.
Some continuity would be nice. How's it possible that a match starts and goes halfway during a commercial? I don't if it's the Divas or anybody else. There's no excuse for having a match be halfway obscured from TV. It's just as bad as a match ending during commercial.
 
I do admit RAW last night wasn't great by any means. But, at least when I have to watch a mind-blowingly large amount of talking segments from WWE, it's not Jeff Jarrett and Karen Angle. The talking segments in WWE at least almost always have a purpose. With those horrible Jeff and Karen segments, all that might get done is to establish Jeff and Karen as the most annoying human beings on Earth. I was pissed by the pointlessness of Miz kicking the shit out DBD last night, but that was still better than most of TNA's segments. That's what TNA fans need to learn: just because WWE sucks at times, doesn't make TNA better. #NapoleonComplexAnyone?
 
Two things about RAW that I truly did not enjoy:

1) Cena - Rock - Miz: They are making the rivalry between the Rock and Cena a bigger deal then the fact that Cena is facing the WWE champion. What's the payoff in this whole situation? Is there going to be a match between Cena and the Rock that will be the culmination of all this name calling and aggression? If not, this is a complete waste of TV time and takes away from the fact that the championship match, which will likely be the main event, should be the most important point of focus. If the championship is not important to Cena and his beef with the Rock takes priority, slot Cena vs. the Rock and have someone who wants to become champion face the Miz. Otherwise, they are wasting Cena and Miz's time and they are the guys who will be returning to the company after 'Mania.

2) Sheamus - Good lord, he must have peed in someone's cornflakes. The guy puts Triple H out of the business and the culmination of this possible blood feud is a quick beatdown and a Pedigree onto a table. Then, Evan comes out, drops in from the top rope and Sheamus jobs out to a mid card player for the second straight week. Somebody left the human jar of mayo out of the fridge, it seems, his expiration date is past.

Other then that, the show was alright. Nothing spectacular. Good thing the WWE didn't put out a press release stating, "SHOCKING SURPRISE OF THE YEAR - GUARANTEED". I mean, what kind of a wrestling company does that and then screws the fans out of a surprise? A really poorly run one would do that I suppose.
 
i fell asleep watching last nights raw. it was so boring. i just read what happened and it seemed just to build up for wrestlemania matches. but if i were in the crowd that night i would demand my money back. thats a show that i would rather be at home watching than be in the front row
 
I was laughing so hard when after the Miz and Cena promo went to commercial they came back right in the middle of a diva match like "Screw it nobody cares about the divas"
 
AngryCenaFan, I think you're misunderstanding the frustration with the TNA product. What happened at Raw last night was well executed. Granted a little more wrestling would not have hurt, they still delivered a solid product.

Unfortunately, most people feel that TNA does not deliver with their backstage segments and their wrestler's mic times. Hence, people prefer that TNA deliver their storyline in the wrestling ring with actual wrestling.

TNA has a long way to go, IMO, when it comes to developing some storylines and honestly I was pretty disgusted with the Undertaker ripoff last week (even though I only read about it then didn't watch). And I know wrestling is a rehash of a rehash everywhere and "everybody repeats storylines" but this was just beyond lazy and completely horrid.
 
i actually think that WWE has done over the past 3 weeks is quite good and interesting. The Rock is actually doing something hidden that is paying off, and for a clue, it's written all over his shirt. I don't remember a lot of cussing during his promo last night(i could be wrong), but i do remember the emotion. he was trembling, quaking if you will, he BROUGHT IT. I was really impressed by Miz, i really think he is bringing it and in the most difficult of circumstances, think about it, he is WWE champ, his opponent is in a war of words with a legend, another legend takes a vailed shot at him and all his contemporaires(HHH saying nobody is a challenge), and yet it doesn't deter him from BRINGING IT. Cena has been bringing it. Orton didn't say a word, yet, he BROUGHT IT last night, awesome non verbal intensity last night. CM Punk was awesome last night, Michael Cole and Lawler brought it, and made jack swagger look like an impressive monster instead of a cartoon character. Ever since Rock has returned, the intensity has picked up. Pg, PG13, whatever, it's that intensity we are drawn to and it has been translating well
 
My problem with TNA isn't lack of wrestling, it's a lack of logic, sense, or consistency in the storytelling. While WWE is just as talkie as TNA, at least the things WWE does is entertaining, has an internal logic, and doesn't make me walk away thinking "What the hell were they smoking, that they think that made sense?"

The problem with TNA isn't the wrestling/promo balance, it's the absolutely stupid and inane crap that they put on the air
 
ok, I'm probably going to get flamed for this pretty bad but I could care less at this point. I watched impact this past week for the first time in.. 4 months, and thought it was pretty bad but the matches were somewhat entertaining. Last night, I watched Raw for the first time in about 4 months as well... mainly because all the hype about The Rock doing something. if The Rock would have did his thing first, i would have turned Raw off. last nights Raw was WORSE than Impact. Simply put, all you WWE fanatics can flame me all you want, but last nights raw.. from open to close.. well.. looked like a freaking TNA show. I am not a fan of either company anymore because of the product they have been delivering.

Now yes, I understand this Raw was just about getting storylines ready for WM, but... we tune in to see WRESTLING.. not a shit load of talking. The return of Borne was... good, I was glad to see him back, however, he destroyed Sheamus( The burial of Sheamus thread coming later). Then, we get promos... and more promos.. oh, and more promos, the the typical divas snack break, then we have more talking and more of it, hey look, orton vs whoever that was, foloowed by another 45 minutes of promos.. including The Rock which i will get into in a moment, and lastley, the main event. So yea.. 4 whole freaking matches... and they were freaking TNA quality matches.

Last sucking point i want to make... the promos of the night. Ok, these are supposed to set up some good programs for the biggest PPV of the year, yet every promo felt forced. Ok, thinking back, maybe not all of them.. maybe orton and punk were decent.. I don't really recall. But every other promo felt forced, like it or not. This brings me to the biggest fail of the night in my opinion, and I know all you marks are going to tear me apart here, but who cares. The Rock... the reason so many people tuned in to Raw, gave us a 10-15 minute promo in which the crowd was DEAD. The chants that WERE going, sounded piped in( and I don't want anyone telling me they don't pipe the chants in, I know otherwise). The rock went from this great, intense, electrifying promo a couple weeks back to... last night. I understand it was supposed to be an angry rock, but what it came across as was he got bitched at for his non PG promo and was trying so hard to stick to that. His promo didn't even feel heartfelt. halfway into the promo, I was about asleep. IMO, the only good thing about his promo, was the yabba dabba bitch. so go right ahread all you effing hypocrits.. flame me.. this is my opnion, and you can shove yours.
 
wow am i the only person who thought last nights raw was brilliant? i thought the DB beatdown was executed perfectly, THE MIZ IS CHAMP AND IS BEING BURIED AT THE SAME TIME, this guy comes out, could have just axe handled bryant, rammed into a barricade, then the poll then skull crushing finale and been done with it, but he stands on bryants head, beats him mercifully, then gets on the mic and reminds people that he's the champ and he does what he does because that's champ's right. he is playing his role to perfection, he isn't aj styles, he isn't kurt angle, he isn't the rock or austin or jericho, i get it, but he is finding a way to make chicken salad out of most people BELIEVE is chicken sh!+ , and i have no problem with that. i fully expect shameous to either win a tripple threat match for us title or mitb. he has had heat with DB(last weeks tease) now evan bourne, john morrison. sometimes you have to be beaten down to bounce back up and i think that's where they are going
 
Hold on.

"Yeah, WWE had 3 matches but they advanced storylines"

You're saying this as if TNA doesn't. What the FUCK do you think they're doing for the rest 90 minutes? Just ... standing there? They're advancing storylines too! In fact, they're SO busy advancing storylines that they have less wrestling.

So, if advancing storylines and having less wrestling is okay for WWE, how come it's bad when TNA does it?

God damn the IWC is so hypocrticial it's just crazy.
 
Ok I want the hypocrites who rip TNA when they don't feature alot of wrestling to come here and bash WWE for what they put on last night.

We got THREE matches
A divas piss break
Orton vs Joe Hennig
Riley vs Cena

so where are you all at? I hope you're going to be fair and critique WWE since you pounce on TNA every chance you get

Okay. It was crap. No real matches besides Riley vs Cena, which was about as competitive as the Undertaker versus the Brooklyn Brawler. The Divas match held nothing of import as Eve continues to be a dead in the water champion, Orton vs Punk is being so badly booked its not funny, and the crowd were completely dead for this show to add the ruin.

The only thing that carried it were HHH, Shawn Michaels and the Rock. But then again, they practically dominated the show along with Cena, and are the ones pushing the main storylines towards Wrestlemania. :shrug:

God damn the IWC is so hypocrticial it's just crazy.

No, the IWC consists of groups and individual posters. I'd just as much like to not be connected with a TNA Basher as a I was a TNABot.
 
wow am i the only person who thought last nights raw was brilliant? i thought the DB beatdown was executed perfectly,
Yeah, it would've been a real shame if he screwed up a simple beatdown.
THE MIZ IS CHAMP AND IS BEING BURIED AT THE SAME TIME, this guy comes out, could have just axe handled bryant, rammed into a barricade, then the poll then skull crushing finale and been done with it, but he stands on bryants head, beats him mercifully, then gets on the mic and reminds people that he's the champ and he does what he does because that's champ's right.
What mercy did Miz have? And more importantly, what was the point of one match being announced just to have one of the wrestlers mauled? To tease us with a spectacular extra 5 minutes of wrestling then say "nah"? Miz drew more than enough heat from beating up John Cena and taking pictures of him and posting them. If you remove that, you have no main event. If you remove the beating on Daniel Bryan, well... Nothings lost.

he is playing his role to perfection, he isn't aj styles, he isn't kurt angle, he isn't the rock or austin or jericho, i get it, but he is finding a way to make chicken salad out of most people BELIEVE is chicken sh!+
It's unbelievable how many wrong things are written here. It's as bad as Alex Riley's toilet joke. Nobody's talking about The Miz. he's doing just fine. The topic here is how little wrestling took place on Raw.
, and i have no problem with that. i fully expect shameous to either win a tripple threat match for us title or mitb. he has had heat with DB(last weeks tease) now evan bourne, john morrison. sometimes you have to be beaten down to bounce back up and i think that's where they are going
Well they better fix that. I want a wrestling match. Not a beatdown that leads to nothing.
 
wow am i the only person who thought last nights raw was brilliant?

I definitely think you're in the minority.

i thought the DB beatdown was executed perfectly, THE MIZ IS CHAMP AND IS BEING BURIED AT THE SAME TIME, this guy comes out, could have just axe handled bryant, rammed into a barricade, then the poll then skull crushing finale and been done with it, but he stands on bryants head, beats him mercifully, then gets on the mic and reminds people that he's the champ and he does what he does because that's champ's right.

And why did his example need to be Daniel Bryan, the US Champion, and a much better in-ring perfomer than the Miz? How did burying your US champion help anything or anyone?

he is playing his role to perfection, he isn't aj styles, he isn't kurt angle, he isn't the rock or austin or jericho, i get it, but he is finding a way to make chicken salad out of most people BELIEVE is chicken sh!+ , and i have no problem with that. i fully expect shameous to either win a tripple threat match for us title or mitb. he has had heat with DB(last weeks tease) now evan bourne, john morrison.

Miz is a forgotten champion, lost amidst the battle of words between the Rock and John Cena. I never thought they would manage to minimize a world championship, but they have!

sometimes you have to be beaten down to bounce back up and i think that's where they are going

They're burying all of their young talent and then they'll blame that young talent 6 months from now because THEY can't get over.
 
Really bad tonight. To much talking and 2 MAJOR botches. Evan Bourne kicking at nothing but air to Sheamus. No pun intended. And the drop kick from Riley when Cena was suppose to follow through against the ropes.

That wasn't a botch. It was a part of the match. He tried the dropkick but Cena was able to hang onto the ropes to make him miss.

It was supposed to happen.
 
Since Alot of people are bringing up the Seamus and DBD beatdowns I want to thow this out there .

DBD because of the beatdowns he has gotten from behind comes in and causes his ex mentor the Miz to loose the title to Cena. It is plausable to happen at WM and it is a SL that has occured over the years in wrestling even in the old carnie days. Now Rock is special guest ref and he doesnt like You cant see me or Im awsome but Cena wins and the Rock congradulates him with the Rock Bottom and the PEOPLES ELBOW. Now you can set up a match at a later date with Rock and Cena as well as continue the war of words after WM. Meanwhile DBD and Miz start a major program that is not about titles but is personal.

Seamus does the same but in Trips loosing he has to retire per the stip of the match. However this also leaves open the door for Trips to try and get out of the retirement saying that Mayo boy interfeared and it was not fair.

The sad thing is today you all look for the In your face Story Lines not for the subtle things that wrestling is famous for.

All this could very well happen dont even assume that you know what the plans that have been going on for months and months are.
 
My problem with TNA isn't lack of wrestling, it's a lack of logic, sense, or consistency in the storytelling. While WWE is just as talkie as TNA, at least the things WWE does is entertaining, has an internal logic, and doesn't make me walk away thinking "What the hell were they smoking, that they think that made sense?"

The problem with TNA isn't the wrestling/promo balance, it's the absolutely stupid and inane crap that they put on the air

Logic ... WWE. Boy, I haven't seen those two in the same post for a while. See, I'm not a consistent WWE fan, I just started watching it because of The Rock and I knew very little of the product. I've seen three episodes of Monday Night RAW now, not knowing who's feuding with who and what's happening, except for a few bits and pieces from the Internet. I'm not going to say it's all bad. It didn't grab me, it didn't interest me. The following are my impressions for watching it from start to end for a month.

I've been watching RAW for three weeks, and I still can't name the feuds that are happening right now. THe only feud I KNOW is happening is Undertaker and Triple H.

You have Cena, Miz, Rock. Cena and The Rock are too busy fucking with eachother, and I completely forgot that Cena is actually going to face Miz at WrestleMania. WWE's too busy on hyping something between Rocky and Cena, and it's not even a match. THAT takes away from the Miz's thunder, THAT takes away from the importance of the WWE Title match at WrestleMania. Now if I had the mentality of the TNA haters I would go

"WWE is burying its young guys (Miz) with Rock and Cena. They're stealing their spotlight"

Every WWE fan out there can see how wrong there is in the aforementioned statement. THIS is how I feel when a fucktard says that the "old guys" are stealing the young guys' spotlight.

Then you have Punk against ... fuck me I can't remember. I honestly don't know who Punk is feuding with. Is it Miz? Is it Cena? Who is it?

Other than that, I can remember no other storyline that is going on currently which means that it was either insignificant (which should NOT be the case during the build up for WrestleMania) or WWE didn't do its job and present the product well for a new/returning viewers.

I don't know WHAT the fuck is going on in WWE right now. I'm not Interested in the Hunter-Taker storyline because it will simply end like any other Streak storyline.

I'm not Interested in a possible 3 second Cena-Rock confrontation, I'm interested in a full-blown feud between the two.

I'm not Interested in Miz who shouldn't be a World Champion in the first place, but he is, and he's not doing a tremendous job at it, but he's doing better than the last few jackasses who won a World Title (Swagger, Sheamus, etc.).

I was also let down to see Triple H squash the fuck out of Sheamus. You know, Sheamus ended his career, it was a big rub for him, now Trips comes back, beats the piss out of him and he gets squashed by ... Evan Bourne? WWE was singing his praises when he was Champion. Future this, future that. He's like this, he's like that. Now he gets squashed by "the older guys". You know, TNA has its flaws, but not once did I see Ric Flair or Hogan come down the ring and squash a young star. Yet the WWE fans are awfully silent about that. If Flair came down and drove AJ through a table you'd all be pissed to the heavens, right?

Oh WWEz, youz so ironicz. One of Sheamus' first big moves on RAW was squashing Bourne day in and day out. Now he squashes him. WWE makes so much sense.

Logic? There is logic. Problem is, it's not interesting. It's basic, it's trivial, it's boring.

Cena and Miz is a feud over a fucking belt. There is no argument, there is no issue between the two. There is just a fucking belt. A prop. Throw Rock into the mix to make this more interesting. You know your feud sucks when you need to bring The Rock back to make it something. Same goes for WrestleMania.

Triple H - Undertaker. "THE STREAK!" As if we haven't seen that shit for the last 18 years. Fans will bring their 18-1 signs, they'll show the promos, HHH will get beat and we'll forget about it on the next morning.

Oh! I forgot! The feudest feud of them all! Jerry Lawler vs ... Michael Cole with Swagger in his corner? Barn ... BURNER! That's entertaining! ... or is it? The TNA equivalent would be Don West vs Mike Tenay (Tazz can't wrestle) with fuckin' Jay Lethal in Mike's corner. Yeah. That stupid.
 
Since Alot of people are bringing up the Seamus and DBD beatdowns I want to thow this out there .

DBD because of the beatdowns he has gotten from behind comes in and causes his ex mentor the Miz to loose the title to Cena. It is plausable to happen at WM and it is a SL that has occured over the years in wrestling even in the old carnie days. Now Rock is special guest ref and he doesnt like You cant see me or Im awsome but Cena wins and the Rock congradulates him with the Rock Bottom and the PEOPLES ELBOW. Now you can set up a match at a later date with Rock and Cena as well as continue the war of words after WM. Meanwhile DBD and Miz start a major program that is not about titles but is personal.

When that happens, you should tell us about it. Until it does, I think you're simply making up scenarios to excuse a lousy show and talent being needlessly and carelessly buried.

Seamus does the same but in Trips loosing he has to retire per the stip of the match. However this also leaves open the door for Trips to try and get out of the retirement saying that Mayo boy interfeared and it was not fair.

Please no. The only saving grace for this 'Wrestlemania 17 Rewind' match is that it might be the last HHH snoozefest we have to endure. Don;'t take that away from me.

And again, when your dream scenario happens, tell us about it then. I seriously doubt that it will.

The sad thing is today you all look for the In your face Story Lines not for the subtle things that wrestling is famous for.

All this could very well happen dont even assume that you know what the plans that have been going on for months and months are.

Don't make any 'assumptions' yourself.

You look like you're making excuses for terrible booking.
 
Just because there wasn't matches necessarily, doesn't mean there wasn't wrestling/fighting/moves or whatever.

Sheamus gets beat up and thrown through announce table (fighting)
Sheamus has match (wrestling, allbeit short and lame)
Randy Orton vs Mcgillicutty (Wrestling, then post match punt)
Divas Battle Royal
Cole/Lawler Promo (Swagger Ankle Lock)
Miz attacks Daniel Bryan (fighting)
Cage Match with Post match action.

For a show that didn't have a lot of matches, there still was wrestling or fighting action involved. It doesn't all have to be in "match form"
 
I did not hate the show by any means, as was said...they are advancing storylines, but any time TNA has under 30 minutes, the internet crowd rips them to shreds

TNA stands for Total Non-Stop Action...

Total = 100 %
Non-Stop = Doesn't stop
Action = the state of being active, something done.

People that rip TNA for only having 30 minutes of wrestling are the people that watched TNA for the last ten years. Watched 1 hour shows that had about a 80 percent return on the Non-stop action, who are now only getting 25 percent return on their non-stop action for twice the Total...

Its like someones been paying you 100 dollars... taking 20 percent in taxes, then suddenly they are taking 75 percent in taxes and making you work twice as long.

WWE has done this for years. Nothing to see here really. Also most those people I describe above don't watch WWE because of the fact they only get a 25 percent return on the action. So us calling them out to bash WWE won't matter. Most will have to go look at the results to contribute.
 
Stasheroo....

In the 27 YEARS I have been watching wrestling It has happened at least 6 times in my memory. those same scenarios over and over so I am nat making up scenarios I am speaking as I stated in my post of things that have happened in the past that may be on the way to being done yet again at WM this year.

ECW,WWF,WWE,NWA,WCW they have all done the say form of story line in the past just with diffrent preformers.

I am sorry if your too young to know the past or as Bobby Heenan once said " These Humanoids only have a memory of a half a second Mean Gene so does it really matter?"
 
thanks you... it seems anything tna does they get ripped to shreds but wwe they put on shitty matches and theres nothin about that just more hating tna
 
The thread starter brings up a good point...

This is the second Raw since the Chamber leading into Mania- And its the second straight Raw that has featured little-to-no wrestling.

The thing that makes that so frustrating is that the "go-home" Raw for Elimination Chamber was great. They found time to alot for the pre-requisite promos(mainly for Rocky), but really built the show around some nicely executed matches between Cena/Punk, Orton/Sheamus, some aggressive work by JoMo, and a PPV quality encounter between Miz and Bryan(which coincidentally was better than every match on the PPV).

Than they come out of the Chamber to start the stretch-run to Mania, and what do we get?? Alot of pomp and circumstance sandwiched around bad promos and very little wrestling. In fact, the only good mic work we've gotten these last two weeks was Cena's rap(it sickens me to admit that). Last night's promos were all attrocious. The Punk/Orton encounter was to similar to the Husky Harris incident. Cole and Lawler were at their worst. Hunter brought back memories of a dozen years ago when he used to start every Raw with a very boring monologue. And lastly(and I'm sure the nuthuggers will hate) was The Rock's boring, pointless, drawn-out, cookie-cutter waste of time that was shown via-satelite. Which was made even more drug out and obnoxious by the fact that he kept repeating catch phrases and prompting the crowd for extra participation, as if he could get the same caliber reactions he would get were he to have bothered to show up live.

Hopefully WWE can get things together in time for us to actually see some quality in-ring work on "the road to Wrestlemania".
 
Stasheroo....

In the 27 YEARS I have been watching wrestling It has happened at least 6 times in my memory. those same scenarios over and over so I am nat making up scenarios I am speaking as I stated in my post of things that have happened in the past that may be on the way to being done yet again at WM this year.

So your point is that since something has happened once that it will again?

Sounds like a weak argument to me.

And until Sheamus or Daniel Bryan play huge roles in the outcome of the Wrestlemania matches, don't bother trying to make the case for it. I'll believe that they will when I see that they will.

There's too much of a case made for young talent being needlessly buried with no payoff an no reward.

For the record, the Son-in-Law just thumbed his 12 lb nose at all those who dared to question and criticize the reason why his feud with Sheamus was blown off.

Hopefully, I doubt that the Undertaker's ego will need similar stroking and we won't have to endure him squashing Kane on Smackdown this week, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

ECW,WWF,WWE,NWA,WCW they have all done the say form of story line in the past just with diffrent preformers.

Past history is no guarantee of future results. 27 years should have shown you that by now.

I am sorry if your too young to know the past or as Bobby Heenan once said " These Humanoids only have a memory of a half a second Mean Gene so does it really matter?"

I've been watching wrestling as long as you have so you'll have to work harder to try to undermine my case.

And I'll repeat, tell me about Bryan or Sheamus being involved and repairing the damage done when it happens, because until it does, it's just conjecture on your part.
 
I really liked the show tonight. We got advancements in the matches set up for mania. We got what seemed like a very passionate promo from The Rock, Triple H explained why he is challenging The Undertaker and he got his revenge on Sheamus without having to have a match, we got the match set for Cole/Lawler. It is the road to Wrestlemania. You should expect a show like this. It also sets up the next 4-5 weeks.

During that time we are guaranteed Orton taking on Nexus, more promos between Rock and Cena, return of Austin (even if only for one night), Miz will be by himself, HHH/Taker mindgames, if they have MITB at WM27, we will have the qualifying matches for that.

Its going to be a good 4-5 weeks leading up to WM27, I for one, am stoked.

As for TNA, you can't even compare the two. While WWE is on the road to Wrestlemania, TNA is on the road to not sucking....not going so well. Be sure to tune in 3.3.11 so you can see the 3572nd return of Sting after a 4 month absence. Whereas if you tune(d) into RAW you would've or will see the returns of Rock, HHH, 'Taker, Austin, HBK (promo spot)...

I had no problem with tonights RAW and you are right about comparing the two companies..not even close, but was this the first time HHH or 'Taker. returned? Hell no. I have nothing but respect for what he has accomplished in his legendary career, but the man shows up for 3 months and is gone until its time for Wrestlemania. So lets not act like the phenom is all that far behind in the return count.
 

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