TNA Allows Itself To Be A "Second Rate" Company!

Key statement you put is Alternative to The E. Not just a straight up competitor. The E is more focused on kids, and pushing no talent bores like Danny Bryan, while Impact in my opinion is focused on the adult audience. Take away Punk's promo last year, and what has The E done that was remotely controversial? Impact is actually doing what all the IWC knobs have been clamming for awhile now. Making titles relevant. Quality wrestling matches. Some of the storyline booking could use improvement, but hey, one thing at a time.

I believe that's what I said. A great alternative to anything WWE is doing. So, you just reinforced what I already said[echo pattern, anyone?:lol:]. As for the Danny Bryan comment, I disagree. Daniel Bryan is a skilled in-ring competitor who took a role doing nothing and turned it into the whole YES thing. In Bryan's defense, how many EXCITING characters are there currently in WWE? I rest my case;

Anyway, back to Impact. I could care less what the so-called "IWC knobs" want. I don't really put alot of stock into what the internet consensus is. As a wrestling fan, I have been saying for awhile now that TNA doesn't need one "big idea" to succeed. What they need to do is define their divisions, stack their shows, and focus on great in-ring matches/storytelling. I agree that the storyline booking needs improving, but, baby steps first. They need to concentrate on setting themselves apart from the E and making an identity all their own. The rest will eventually come. I've been impressed with most of what TNA has been doing lately[with a few exceptions] since they went live. It just seems like an adrenaline shot to the old taped Impacts and it seems alot better than knowing weeks in advance what will happen[with spoilers]. The surprize element is back and that makes anything they do better.
 
Not to get off topic, but Daniel Bryan is nothing but a modern day Dean Malenko at best. The fact that a stupid "Yes" schtick is the only thing to get him over pretty much says how low of intelligence The E fans, and wrestling fans in general have. It's worse than "What?"
 
Not to get off topic, but Daniel Bryan is nothing but a modern day Dean Malenko at best. The fact that a stupid "Yes" schtick is the only thing to get him over pretty much says how low of intelligence The E fans, and wrestling fans in general have. It's worse than "What?"

:lol::lmao::lmao:

Modern day Dean Malenko. Why does that make me imagine WWE giving him the old Lady Killer-type of gimmick that Malenko had?:shrug: I do agree that the YES thing is about as annoying as "What?" was, but, anything new stars do to get themselves over is good. It's easily better than anything anyone in the last 5 years has came up with, right? Which isn't saying much......
 
i partially agree with some of that you say. i may be in the minority but i think they should have kept the 6-sided ring. it was different and made them stand out from other companies - you knew right away who you were watching. and i think they made some big missteps along the way - going live on Mondays, hiring Flair, etc. they seemed to get caught up in the idea of creating another Monday Night War and not in being the best wrestling company they can. but i think in the last 6 months or so, they have made some real big changes and are on the right track. hiring former wwe talent is not an issue. Austin, Taker, HHH, and Foley all worked WCW before joining WWF but no one thought anything about that. What i find really amusing is that people complain about TNA hiring former WWE talent but what was the one thing people loved about the Monday Night Wars? the talent jumping from one company to the other. didn't matter who it was, from Hogan, Nash and Hall down to X-Pac and JJ, people loved watching it happen. why the issue now? I think TNA is finally focusing on being the best company they can and not on being wwe. will they ever be the top wrestling company in the world? doubtful with wwe's video library but i do see a time where people look at TNA and say it has the best wrestling on tv right now.
 
Wow! Did I upset all the TNA fans? First I am not out of touch with TNA! I am aware that Roode is the champion. I just pointed out that over the last three years, they could have made better choices. You kids kill me! What's with all the tough talk and insults? I'm not dissing TNA, just expressing frustration over something. I thought was just fine before the Hogan/ Bischoff era. Who are you guys anyway? The same 25 people who show up to the impact zone every week? Stop all the tough guy nonsense on the Internet. Nobody on here is a badass.
 
Wow! Did I upset all the TNA fans? First I am not out of touch with TNA! I am aware that Roode is the champion. I just pointed out that over the last three years, they could have made better choices. You kids kill me! What's with all the tough talk and insults? I'm not dissing TNA, just expressing frustration over something. I thought was just fine before the Hogan/ Bischoff era. Who are you guys anyway? The same 25 people who show up to the impact zone every week? Stop all the tough guy nonsense on the Internet. Nobody on here is a badass.

:lol: "Nobody on here is a badass". Not unless you can roid up computers. I think most fans who have invested time into watching TNA take exception when others that don't know as much about the product are claiming it's "allowing" itself to be a second rate company. Is TNA second-rate? Yes. It's not exactly major league competition for WWE quite yet. The problem in this topic came in when you claim that TNA is sabotaging itself deliberately, which I don't believe to be true. TNA is doing alot lately to improve their shows and it reflects each and every week. Going live was a big help to improving the energy of the shows and it seemed to encourage the TNA talents. While I can say there are alot of things that TNA needs to improve upon, they are doing some things well.
 
My take on it is this. TNA continues to look second rate because of quite a few things. First, most of their televised shows take place in the same building. That means that you aren't going to get a hot crowd every week. Secondly, their backstage segments look horrible. I know they are trying to look like more of a reality based, but they are awful.

Now, I just watched Impact, and the first thing that I noticed...the advertisement for an insurance company on the ring apron and middle turnbuckles. That just looks bad.

Then we go to storylines. Most of them are rubbish. Bully Ray got a restraining order on Abyss...really? Madison Rayne has a crush on Earl Hebner...really? Claire Lynch...really? Now the Austin Aries/Bobby Roode stuff has been pretty good.

Then you have Crimson, guy goes on a one year undefeated tear. Has he won a television match since he lost to Storm?

And finally, you have Bound for Glory. TNA's biggest show of the year. It is taking place in a venue that seats 5000 people. They just came off a PPV that was in front of their largest crowd for a televised event ever, and now they go to a venue that holds as many people as the first BFG outside of the Impact Zone.

First rate talent unfortunately can't overcome the third rate effort that everyone else in the company has.
 
My take on it is this. TNA continues to look second rate because of quite a few things. First, most of their televised shows take place in the same building. That means that you aren't going to get a hot crowd every week. Secondly, their backstage segments look horrible. I know they are trying to look like more of a reality based, but they are awful.

This is a major problem for TNA Impact. They remain in Orlando and never move outside that venue. It does make the product seem vastly inferior to WWE since they are always on the move. Most fans in the Impact Zone are used to seeing these talents, so, they are bored because it's routine. However, if you think about it, staying in Orlando for now isn't such a bad thing. They'll probably stay there until they are no longer losing money, which does make sense from a financial standpoint. Remember, WCW were taping shows @ Universal Studios in Orlando too. They did the same thing I'm suggesting that TNA do; remain in Orlando until they get outta debt and then move on to different venues every night/week once they can afford it. That would go a long way in helping crowd reaction and the overall feel of the TNA product. I do agree that their production for backstage segs are awful. That's something they definetely need to look into.

Now, I just watched Impact, and the first thing that I noticed...the advertisement for an insurance company on the ring apron and middle turnbuckles. That just looks bad.

Again, I have to agree. When they are advertising Direct Insurance on their aprons and turnbuckles, that's just poor judgement. You don't see WWE doing that with their ring aprons or turnbuckles. It does look tacky. Of course, those crappy Direct Insurance commercials don't help either. I'm guessing that TNA is doing that to once again help financially. As long as they can deliver great action in-ring, I can overlook that.

Then we go to storylines. Most of them are rubbish. Bully Ray got a restraining order on Abyss...really? Madison Rayne has a crush on Earl Hebner...really? Claire Lynch...really? Now the Austin Aries/Bobby Roode stuff has been pretty good.

I'm guessing the "restraining order" Bully Ray got on Abyss was simply to get heat. It seemed to work so I don't have a problem with it. As long as it advances the story creatively, it's fine. I called the "crush" of Madison Rayne on Hebner weeks ago. I do have a problem with that because it doesn't really make any sense and will most likely lead nowhere good. I'm guessing the same van that kidnapped Samoa Joe will swing by and kidnap Rayne & Hebner if things don't work out. The whole AJ Styles/Dixie Carter/Claire Lynch thing is so far out there that I cannot comprehend how someone actually came up with that and everyone else agreed it was a good idea. This is an area where TNA has needed help since their inception. Their in-ring stuff is good but their storylines are complete crap. The Aries/Roode thing has been one of the major exceptions to that. Of course, I've also enjoyed the renewed focus on the X-Division & the BFG tournament. For everything that TNA are doing right, they are doing equally as much wrong. Once they can figure out what to do right, I believe Impact could be as good if not better than WWE. Which isn't too hard, since WWE have mostly been phoning it in since the end of the "attitude era".

Then you have Crimson, guy goes on a one year undefeated tear. Has he won a television match since he lost to Storm?

It was ok to have Crimson lose to Storm, since he was just returning. It made sense to have him do that and then win the BFG tourney. However, I thought it was moronic for Crimson not to have won the TV Title this past week. At least giving him a title would make up for no longer having the streak.

And finally, you have Bound for Glory. TNA's biggest show of the year. It is taking place in a venue that seats 5000 people. They just came off a PPV that was in front of their largest crowd for a televised event ever, and now they go to a venue that holds as many people as the first BFG outside of the Impact Zone.

It looks like TNA are doing this merely out of self-preservation and financial reasons alone. TNA's attendances haven't been that stellar in years and sticking with a 5,000 attendance arena may be the smarter move. I doubt even TNA could give away that many tickets if they went to an arena where it seated 10,000+ if only less than 5,000 showed up. This goes back to what I've been saying lately about TNA needed to create their own identity. If they did that, they wouldn't have to worry about attendance or giving away free tickets. They'd be sold out on their merits alone.

First rate talent unfortunately can't overcome the third rate effort that everyone else in the company has.

Agreed. TNA has all the potential in the world. But, until TNA can start learning from their mistakes, they'll still be perceived as "second-rate". I've not been debating that point. What I have been saying is that TNA does have alot of good things going for them and they need to enhance those things to stop coming off as minor league.
 

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