TNA Allows Itself To Be A "Second Rate" Company!

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First and foremost, WWE is THE top wrestling organization on the planet, hands down, period!
It's hard to compete with WWE's production quality, rank and file pecking order and Vincent K. McMahon's....Muuunnnaaaayy! WWE is a well oiled machine. The orders come from the Captain (Vince), to his top Lieutenants (Laurinitis, HHH, Steph, writers), who guide the soldiers (wrestlers) onto the battlefeild (the ring, films, make-a-wish etc.)

With all the above said...TNA used to be innovative, the X Division, six sided ring, Ultimate X match etc. Now Tna has turned itself into WCW 2.0! I find they are making the same mistakes that WCW made before their own demise. Nobody knows who's in charge backstage, Hogan has some stroke and that's not always a good thing. Most of their top stars prove to be unreliable (Flair, RVD, Jeff Hardy), with their no show antics the last couple of years.
TNA has become a rest haven for WWE's wellness policy's worst offenders (Anderson, Hardy, RVD, Angle). The company puts faith in these guys and they embarrass themselves with their substance abuse issues. Hogan and Flair get on TV and bragg and make reference to HOF rings they received in WWE.

Why does TNA allow this? It's almost as if your admitting to being a second rate company by allowing these things to go on. TNA has great talent that gets overshadowed every time a WWE castaway gets future endeavored! Anderson, RVD, Christian, Angle all won the TNA title months upon entering the company. AJ gets pushed back and put in dumb storylines, Overrated Vince Russo comes and goes.....

Is it just me? Help me out guys....restore my faith in TNA because the last Three years have been a big debacle!:banghead:
 
I find they are making the same mistakes that WCW made before their own demise. Nobody knows who's in charge backstage, Hogan has some stroke and that's not always a good thing.

As fans, do we really need to know who's in charge? If you mean the wrestlers don't know, how do you know that? I haven't seen anything that would suggest that.

Most of their top stars prove to be unreliable (Flair, RVD, Jeff Hardy), with their no show antics the last couple of years.

Flair was not a top star in TNA... RVD I don't ever remember ever no showing, so Jeff Hardy is the only one and he is not "most" top stars.

TNA has become a rest haven for WWE's wellness policy's worst offenders (Anderson, Hardy, RVD, Angle). The company puts faith in these guys and they embarrass themselves with their substance abuse issues. Hogan and Flair get on TV and bragg and make reference to HOF rings they received in WWE.

All the guys are very talented except maybe Anderson (just my opinion) and I really don't see what's wrong with saying they have HOF rings, it's not gonna make people switch over to WWE and it won't mean a TNA ratings decrease.
 
Well first of all Flair and Hogan's HOF rings are their accomplishments (both in wrestling and in kissing Vince's ass). Most of what made Flair a hall of famer didn't even happen in WWF/E anyways.

As far as second rate, if you have been watching both RAW and Impact, you'd notice Impact has been the better show. WWE has been dropping the ball.
 
Nothing you have stated hasn't been said 100 times before (and that's just today) and of coarse most of it is true.

Everyone knows WWE is number 1, and anyone who doubts it is just fooling themselves. And judging by the way things are going that isn't gonna change anytime soon.

And yes TNA used to be innovative but they have aloud themselves to just go with the norm more often than not. They've let original talent like Petey Williams go, while employing guys like Rob Terry. The X & Tag Team divisions went from the high spot to barely existing. Thank God for someone like Aries or the X Division would be completely gone.

TNA does have some bright spots but they come too few and far between nowadays. But one thing is certain... They've definitely taken steps to improve since the first few months of Hogan & Bischoff's regime. And HOPEFULLY they can get rid of the dead weight like Hogan/Eric/Garrett and get back to what once made them "innovative"!


(Make this 101 :blush:)
 
Have to agree with the guy above me, alot of what youre saying is kind of unfounded... How are they WCW 2.0? Because bicshoff and hogan are there? Same could have been said about WWE a few years ago!

The guys you listed as top stars are not the top stars, excluding Jeff Hardy. The top guys would be Roode, Hardy Aj, kurt, Aries and Bully Ray, along with a gew other HIGHLY reliable workers if the last year is anything to go by, even hardy since he has cleaned up.

Declaring them a restway for guys who failed the wellness policy based on four names is a bit silly concidering there are more guys in the WWE who have failed that policy right now than in TNA and the majority of the TNA roster havent failed anything WWE.

The last year of TNA has been a steady improvement, one which has gotten me reinterested in watching the show, so much so that iv replaced watching WWE with TNA (excluding NXT and PPVs) as the former has left a dry feeling in my mouth as of late (though i admit, smackdowns MITB match will be very very interesting).

I find this thread a waste of your own energy, and mine in responding to it!... NIce army metaphor though!
 
As fans, do we really need to know who's in charge? If you mean the wrestlers don't know, how do you know that? I haven't seen anything that would suggest that.
Jay lethal stated on Colt Cabana's podcast that he or nobody else knew who to turn to for guidance or direction.



All the guys are very talented except maybe Anderson (just my opinion) and I really don't see what's wrong with saying they have HOF rings, it's not gonna make people switch over to WWE and it won't mean a TNA ratings decrease.

Mentioning their HOF rings to me is kind of disrespectful to the company that's signing your checks. Their HOF rings should not be in the center of storylines. They(TNA) should be focused on building talent to THEIR own standards, not WWE.
 
I find this thread a waste of your own energy, and mine in responding to it!... NIce army metaphor though!

Yeah, I kinda knew it was going in, but I had to get it off my chest. I embrace the hate. And thanks for the compliment, I do it for you kid!
 
I think the OP hasn't watched Impact in ages and if he has then he isn't paying attention.

Here is the current lay of the land in TNA.

Their current World Heavywieght Champion is the longest reigning in the company's history.


Their current X Division Champion Austin Aries who is dropping the belt in a very unique and innovative angle is the longest reigning Champion in the division.

Their former Knock Out's Champion Gail Kim who only just recently dropped her title at one of the biggest ppvs on TNA's calandar was the longest reigning in the company's history... see where I'm going with this?

Devon is probably the longest reigning TV/Global/Legends Champ ever, so he is bringing legitmatcy to a title that everyoen thought was a lost cause..

The biggest name in wrestling is the GM, Sting much like the Undertaker makes very rare appearances and makes them count. The roster not only has guys like Roode, Storm and Daniels breaking thorugh the ceiling, but to feed off they have great veterans like Hardy, RVD and Angle to make them big names...

At this very point in time TNA iMPact is a way better show than RAW or smackdown. Yes the huge crowds aren't there, the big production values and money isn't there like WWE, but to say it is bad, at this very moment in time, is wrong, and I feel you are slightly trolling mr OP.
 
Oh my. Well, right now both organizations have been holding their product back. One show keeps holding down it's WWE title to keep promoting John Cena, the other show is getting Dixie Carter involved in some scandal with a wrestler. Nothing too special to keep me watching.

WWE is holding back some good talent, TNA is holding back some good talent. Whats the payoff for John Cena winning MITB, whats the payoff from the Dixie and AJ ordeal? John Cena cashing in the MITB on CM Punk won't gain extra viewers. Dixie and AJ just lead to Danials and Kazarian winning the tag tittles.

Right now, in my opinion. Both companies have been holding back from great potential. Innovation is nice, nothing wrong with a different approach. However, re-inventing the wheel didn't make any big dollars. Finding new uses for the wheel, will bring in cash.

For the WWE. No need for Cena, Show, Jericho, and other world champions to be in MITB. Jericho could have a great feud with Sheamus, or have a great feud with Cena. You want to get over new talent. Have Big Show job to Ryback. Sounds silly? Well... Having Ryback squashing nobodies will be good for another month, but he needs to get over. Having him have some good feuds, and winning sets up for a big payday. Maybe a royal rumble win.

Jericho always could get Cena over. Jericho and Cena have always had great feuds. Promote that! Cut down the two MITB matches. You just need one.

TNA needs to drop this reality game show crap. I don't care what three "legends" in the back think about some new talent. Just let the talent wrestle, and give promos. It's just simple.

Both shows need to get rid of this GM crap. Use the old school Jack Tunney Role. Come in when the heels are having an unfair advantage. Make the grounds even. Power struggles are okay, but not a big thing anymore.

Oh yes... Get Broke Hogan off TV.

I don't really know what your question is. I'm sure I went off topic. I think you asked, how TNA can get better... I do know, others including myself have posted on the subject before. It's a great topic, and impact has been producing better shows. But, both companies are holding their organizations back.
 
First and foremost, WWE is THE top wrestling organization on the planet, hands down, period!

That's a no brainer, a fool would be the only one to argue with this assessment, now don't get me wrong before you take this as a TNA loving reply, I'm Switzerland on this one, the wrestling business in its current form has disenfranchised me greatly. Just because WWE is the top wrestling company and still has their foothold on the business doesn't mean what's coming out these days is good. Again, not preaching greatness from TNA here, but just calling it like I see it, the fact that there's even an alternative to WWE, even if the company is substandard to some people on here, we should be grateful.

It's hard to compete with WWE's production quality, rank and file pecking order and Vincent K. McMahon's....Muuunnnaaaayy! WWE is a well oiled machine. The orders come from the Captain (Vince), to his top Lieutenants (Laurinitis, HHH, Steph, writers), who guide the soldiers (wrestlers) onto the battlefeild (the ring, films, make-a-wish etc.)

Pretty much a dead on statement here, however I'd give anything for WWE to just jettison the film division or rebrand it into something that does not carry the WWE name, but what are you gonna do? You can't win them all.


With all the above said...TNA used to be innovative, the X Division, six sided ring, Ultimate X match etc.

Austin Aries, a non-WWE branded star, I might add had a very memorable run with the X Division title, I wouldn't say that was too shabby. Plus the six sided ring was something that was brought back for Destination X last year, I am assuming it's possible that we will see it back for this year's incarnation? Also, if memory serves me right, I could have sworn they had an Ultimate X match at that same event. I mean would you prefer that they have the Ultimate X match ad nauseum like WWE does with its Hell and The Cell and Money In The Bank matches? Again, no offense to WWE on that and I personally find nothing wrong with themed PPVs but when you have 2 MITB or 3 Hell In A Cell matches on a given pay per view, I would say the word for that is redundant. But considering that WWE does have a successful track record with their foothold on the wrestling business, they are still at that point where they can get away with it.

Just the same though, TNA is still offering these things you speak of. Period.

Now Tna has turned itself into WCW 2.0! I find they are making the same mistakes that WCW made before their own demise. Nobody knows who's in charge backstage, Hogan has some stroke and that's not always a good thing. Most of their top stars prove to be unreliable (Flair, RVD, Jeff Hardy), with their no show antics the last couple of years.

This one never gets old to me, you say that TNA is WCW 2.0, you say that nobody know who's in charge backstage, who really knows? But just the same, I am sure you are citing the internet as your true source for knowing what's going down in the business. Yes, I am sure that some stuff we hear about comes from a hint of truth from time to time, but honestly TNA shares parallels with WCW in the respect that they have similar personnel and what not. They don't have the Ted Turner ownership where you had a revolving door of big wigs who knew nothing about wrestling allowing for ridiculous guarantee contracts for many wrestlers who did not deserve them. Despite some familiar faces working in TNA, they are by no means at least in my view a WCW 2.0.

TNA has become a rest haven for WWE's wellness policy's worst offenders (Anderson, Hardy, RVD, Angle). The company puts faith in these guys and they embarrass themselves with their substance abuse issues.

Anderson was released according to WWE for matters not involving the wellness policy (sure he violated but so has Randy Orton and other established WWE acts), and RVD yes he indeed violated the policy too but he fulfilled his contractual obligations. Big whoop on TNA signing them. Both men should just starve on the indy scene or uproot to Japan to wrestle full-time? It's very likely that these veterans of the business would prefer to stay state side and work a looser schedule. I don't think they are doing anything to hurt TNA or anyone else. Last I hear myriads of wrestlers in WWF/E have died from substance abuse issues, several of them under contract I might add. Sure, WWE might be doing something by instituting the wellness policy but it only took a bunch of wrestlers dying to do it. Please, spare me the holier than thou nonsense.

Hogan and Flair get on TV and bragg and make reference to HOF rings they received in WWE.

Yeah, and Ric Flair brought the Big Gold Belt with him to WWF, sure he was owed a deposit from what he had stated in the past. But something tells that despite that, him bringing the belt to WWF trumps what TNA is doing with the HOF ring angle they had. After all, I remember they had to stop showing the Big Gold Belt rather abruptly and instead had to use a tag team title to double for it, when they did the Real World's Champion angle.

Why does TNA allow this? It's almost as if your admitting to being a second rate company by allowing these things to go on. TNA has great talent that gets overshadowed every time a WWE castaway gets future endeavored! Anderson, RVD, Christian, Angle all won the TNA title months upon entering the company. AJ gets pushed back and put in dumb storylines, Overrated Vince Russo comes and goes.....

I would check the current champions roll call of TNA, Bobby Roode is the World Champion, Austin Aries WAS the X Divison Champion, and yes I know Devon was in WWF/E at one time, but just the same he's a TNA guy at this point since he's been there for over 7 years. Daniels and Kazarian World Tag Team Champions, both pretty well identified TNA guys. Miss Tessmacher the KO Champion, and yes while I cringe at Eric Young and ODB being KO Tag Champs. Let us no forget that Harvey Whippleman was a former WWF Women's Champion.

While you are right about Angle and Anderson getting released, Christian and RVD both refused to renew contracts with WWE. A MAJOR difference from future endeavor status. Again, I suppose you have a means of helping to financially support these men who want to continue plying their given art form. It's obvious you're adverse to these men continuing their lives as professional wrestlers in other organizations since they either did not want to or could not stay with WWE.

Suppose I lose my job or decide to part ways with the current technology company I work for, what should I do if a competitor offers me a job. Say no and decide to flip burgers? Give me a break. These men have every right to pursue an opportunity elsewhere and if TNA wants to give it to them, so be it. I mean yeah Ring Of Honor is a great organization that showcases some great talent and wrestling clinics and organizations like New Japan and All Japan I greatly respect and admire for their appreciation of the art form, however like I said earlier not EVERY individual in the wrestling business wants to go the route of a Stan Hansen or Big Van Vader and uproot their own families and themselves to perform overseas, even if the money can be and usually is good.

Is it just me? Help me out guys....restore my faith in TNA because the last Three years have been a big debacle!:banghead:

Call me a prick, but a lot of this opinion you're stating is just you. You are not wrong in my view on all counts, but there are some points you make that I just have to scoff at. Would a better rated TNA product help the business, you damn bet. Is there room for improvement with TNA, damn right there is.

However, considering the myriad of stupidity and nonsense I've seen on WWE's part over the years, and Vince McMahon in particular (i.e. WBF and XFL), TNA does alright for itself, even if it's not to your own personal liking. Again, I can side with some of your points, but I'll tell you this much at the end of the day the people that have ran TNA thus far are a hell of a lot better at promoting wrestling, than Vince McMahon ever was at promoting bodybuilding or football. Say what you will about the company but ten years and still going as a company, that isn't too bad. Until the day we actually hear for certain that they are to shut down operations as a wrestling promotion, then we can talk a bit more about a thread like this.
 
There is something people need to keep in mind: it took the WWWF/WWF/WWE around 60 years to become the machine they are now. WcW was originally Jim Crockett promotions which was part of the NWA, which is the oldest wrestling organization around. TNA is 10 years old. It is doing exceptionally well in most regards. It is a glorified territory in most aspects. They just happen to be on a national network. Being a glorified territory is not a bad thing.

I do not see TNA as WcW 2.0. Are they doing some things WcW did? Sure, but not everything WcW was a failure. They are also trying to copy WWE in some respects. A lot of times this fails. A lot of times this doesn't. TNA is still finding their identity. As I said, the company is only 10 years old. They are making more right calls right now than wrong. The AJ/Dixie thing is horrible, but I give them leeway here since I am enjoying everything else.

Given WWE's product as of late, why aren't they being called WcW 2.0? Just a thought
 
I think the OP hasn't watched Impact in ages and if he has then he isn't paying attention.

Here is the current lay of the land in TNA.

Their current World Heavywieght Champion is the longest reigning in the company's history.


Their current X Division Champion Austin Aries who is dropping the belt in a very unique and innovative angle is the longest reigning Champion in the division.

Their former Knock Out's Champion Gail Kim who only just recently dropped her title at one of the biggest ppvs on TNA's calandar was the longest reigning in the company's history... see where I'm going with this?

Devon is probably the longest reigning TV/Global/Legends Champ ever, so he is bringing legitmatcy to a title that everyoen thought was a lost cause..

The biggest name in wrestling is the GM, Sting much like the Undertaker makes very rare appearances and makes them count. The roster not only has guys like Roode, Storm and Daniels breaking thorugh the ceiling, but to feed off they have great veterans like Hardy, RVD and Angle to make them big names...

At this very point in time TNA iMPact is a way better show than RAW or smackdown. Yes the huge crowds aren't there, the big production values and money isn't there like WWE, but to say it is bad, at this very moment in time, is wrong, and I feel you are slightly trolling mr OP.

Seriously! After tonights Impact I have to admit that Impact Wrestling is miles ahead of the WWE at this point. If they keep having shows like tonights they will probably be able to pick up some of the old WCW fans that stopped watching after WWE bought WCW. Hell, even Mark Madden (who usually hates Impact) said that it has become the better show.
 
There is something people need to keep in mind: it took the WWWF/WWF/WWE around 60 years to become the machine they are now. WcW was originally Jim Crockett promotions which was part of the NWA, which is the oldest wrestling organization around. TNA is 10 years old. It is doing exceptionally well in most regards. It is a glorified territory in most aspects. They just happen to be on a national network. Being a glorified territory is not a bad thing.

I do not see TNA as WcW 2.0. Are they doing some things WcW did? Sure, but not everything WcW was a failure. They are also trying to copy WWE in some respects. A lot of times this fails. A lot of times this doesn't. TNA is still finding their identity. As I said, the company is only 10 years old. They are making more right calls right now than wrong. The AJ/Dixie thing is horrible, but I give them leeway here since I am enjoying everything else.

Given WWE's product as of late, why aren't they being called WcW 2.0? Just a thought

Well, they aren't being called WCW 2.0 yet, because pure madness isn't on air.

You don't have shoot promo, after shoot promo. You don't have the head of the company walking away from the basics.

Yes, I'm complaining about booking, and not using talent.But WWE booking for the last 3 years or so have been doing stupid things. Plus, they are still making money. They still got profit at the end of the day. Just not big buckets.

On top of that. Wrestlemania takes care of so many bills. Plus, WWE is still consistent with their ratings.

People call TNA WCW 2.0 cause of because a lot of the staff from WCW are there. Plus, so many "friends" have a job there. But, with some of the stupid things WWE has done, I don't blame people for calling them WCW 2.0.

It's weird. Just a Few months ago, wrestling crowds were going nuts again. I thought the revival was coming back.
 
For starters, TNA is NOT a second rate company. Just ask Mark Madden... I have never read anything where Mr. Madden ever says anything good about TNA. In his column this week, even he acknowledges that TNA is putting out a better product than WWE right now. Just because WWE has more of a history and bigger bank account does not mean that they are putting out a better product.

There is a fairly large part of WWE fans who watch out of blind loyalty to the WWE. Try getting a Dallas Cowboys fan to stop cheering for their beloved team... almost impossible.

One of these threads comes up every so often and I just laugh. I laugh because people have been tricked into thinking that everything WCW ever did was complete crap. I can't say I blame the ones who were to young to have lived through the Monday night wars. With all the dvd releases that WWE has done over the years on WCW, it is easy to see how they have been tricked into thinking this way.

TNA is NOT WCW! TNA would be LUCKY to be as good as WCW was. WCW changed the whole landscape of professional wrestling. Without WCW, the precious Attitude Era would have never happened. That means no Rock or Stone Cold. WCW forced Vince McMahon to step up his game. Vince McMahon had to think outside of the box to catch up with WCW. The last year or so of WCW's existence should not convolute what they accomplished and how good they really were.

If WCW was so horrible and never did anything good, then how did they manage to nearly put WWF out of business?

TNA does not have the money machine behind it like a Vince McMahon or Ted Turner. TNA is not WCW because they have not reached that level yet. TNA has consistently gotten better every year and the future looks bright.
 
Mentioning their HOF rings to me is kind of disrespectful to the company that's signing your checks. Their HOF rings should not be in the center of storylines. They(TNA) should be focused on building talent to THEIR own standards, not WWE.

Hey I don't think it's disrespectful, that they are acknowledging his accolades. I think that's better than just ignoring it and pretending WWE does not exist because....we know it does lol but agreed the whole Abyssamania storyline was bullcrap the magic HOF ring did not need to be the center of attention there.
 
I will admit, I used to hate TNA with a passion, calling them WCW late 2000s and all that stuff. But to be honest, they've managed to impress me the past few months and especially the past few weeks. TNA has increased their product quality, while the WWE has greatly declined. However, all this stuff with AJ/Dixie is not needed. They seem to be making that more important than their world title, the same mistake WWE makes (Cena > any title).

However, TNA's undercard storylines (since the world title is obviously undercard until Dixie/AJ is through) are intriguing and the actual wrestling is exciting. The WWE's matches feel like they've become routine, with most lacking anything to make the viewer go "WOW" or..."Holy ****". And while I personally could go either way, I know it is important to point out the TNA knockouts actually get time to showcase their talent.

Anyways, now I'm thinking TNA is WCW.....circa 1993 when they were struggling to get up there. One can only hope they manage to get themselves out there enough to scare Vince McMahon enough so he can grow some balls. It kills me to say this, but if anything should be considered WCW circa 2000 2.0, it is the WWE.
 
I have to question why threads like this remain open for so long? I have been a long time lurker, short time poster but you honestly see these threads 50 times a year and they continue to be opened. I sense frustration in certain posters as they have to write the same reply, time after time, every few weeks.

Anyways, I'll play along, just because I'm bored as shit. When was the last time you watched Impact? Can't have been all that recent as you would know Impact has been awesome lately. They are pushing new stars, building decent new characters and running some very intriguing storylines that have most of the IWC hooked. Sure, the ratings aren't reflecting how good their product is but they must remain patient.

I watch Impact to be enjoyed, not critique every little thing that goes on. So if a wrestler is from WWE, CZW, ROH etc, I dont give a fucking shit. If they are entertaining me, then I am more than satisfied and that is all that matters. Can't understand why someone coming over from the WWE is negative if they are doing a great job in merch sales and entertaining people?

People need to pull their heads in, and stop looking at wrestling likes it's the NFL or MLB, where you pick a side and hate the rivals. Wrestling is just a television show, so if you enjoy the WWE, don't just hate on TNA because it's the 'other promotion'. Sit back and enjoy, because you surely can't be enjoying the WWE's current product over TNA's.

Oh, and a MVP avatar. I lol'd.
 
The OP is a complete joke! It sounds like the last time this guy watched TNA was in March 2010. Hey OP, it's June going on July in 2012, the things you complained about in your posts are no longer relevant. Catch up to the times because this thread shows how much you've made an ass out of yourself.

Second of all, you need to speak facts:
RVD and Jeff Hardy are in TNA because they decided not to renew their contracts with WWE.

This idiot even has the nerve to talk about "WWE castoffs" overshadowing TNA originals:

Hey dumbass: The TNA world heavyweight champion=Bobby Roode. The X-division champion=Austin Aries. The Tag Team Champs=Kazarian & Daniels. All TNA homegrown talent.

Where the hell do you see any "WWE castoffs overshadowing anybody"? Next time don't make a thread from out your ass!
 
Seriously! After tonights Impact I have to admit that Impact Wrestling is miles ahead of the WWE at this point.

It really isn't. TNA have been very consistent the last couple of months, their product has improved vastly, they've became pretty entertaining and seem to know the direction they're going. Every week they try to make sure that people are prepared to tune in the following week to seek answers, ends, new storylines, new character developments etc, etc and it is working, because even something as small as this forums Impact live discussion has picked up in recent months.

But three months doesn't make you "miles ahead," especially considering three months ago WWE were doing the Brock Lesnar return angle which had everybody talking. WWE have so many products it is near to impossible for them to be bettered by Impact Wrestling or otherwise.

So sit on your hands and begin looking at things realistically, one good show doesn't make a company "miles head," especially considering last weeks show was poor, mostly due to the ending.

Hell, even Mark Madden (who usually hates Impact) said that it has become the better show.

:lmao:

Mark Madden? I'd care more for what the poster Mack_Swagger feels on the current wrestling product overall than I would Mark Madden.
 
TNA is inferior to WWE. However, that doesn't necessarily mean that their product is mediocre by default.

Opinions are like farts. There's plenty of it and they usually stink. What comes across as "second-rate" BS to some could be entertaining to others.

Rome wasn't built in a day, or 10 years for that matter. The same goes for TNA.
 
for me tna are doing a great job at the moment. the most import thing i think they have done resently is getting rid of dead weight on the roster like ric flair, big poppa pump, and kevin nash. all three of these guys have not been able to go for years. know they are gone it has allowed the younger superstars to shine people like austin aries who if those guys were still around would not even get a look in. yes there are still problems with tna and superstars they still need to get off the roster like jeff hardy who dose nothing for the company other then sell a few t-shirts. but there is a lot to be positive about im sure vince mcmahan made some mistakes at the start and so will tna.
 
WWE is definitely the leader in the industry right now and many of the points you (OP) make are true. I've been watching wrestling for 25 years and I've been watching WWE degrade. The bottom line for me is this:

If given the choice between WWE and TNA, I will pick TNA, because when I watch TNA, I feel like I don't know what's going to happen. WWE is so predictable and formulaic, to me at least, that I feel bored by it. TNA tries many new things. Granted, a lot of them are GOD AWFUL, but hey, they're still trying to do things differently. When it comes to in ring performance, TNA is far better than the WWE, specifically the X Division and Knockouts Division. I care a lot more about seeing exciting matches than having a good story-something neither company can seem to do at the moment.
 
First and foremost, WWE is THE top wrestling organization on the planet, hands down, period!
It's hard to compete with WWE's production quality, rank and file pecking order and Vincent K. McMahon's....Muuunnnaaaayy! WWE is a well oiled machine. The orders come from the Captain (Vince), to his top Lieutenants (Laurinitis, HHH, Steph, writers), who guide the soldiers (wrestlers) onto the battlefeild (the ring, films, make-a-wish etc.)
I can tell you aren't very bright. See, it's pretty easy to make money when you have a perpetual money maker on your hands. You could fire McMahon, Triple H, Steph and anyone else on staff and just hire a bunch of moneys. As long as the talent gets to walk out of the curtain and get a pop out of the crowd, money is made. So your little fantasy idea of Mr. McMahon being a master this, yeah its true. But that fucker you call the WWE has been running on autopilot for years. And their inability to produce relevant talent at a faster pace shows it.
With all the above said...TNA used to be innovative, the X Division, six sided ring, Ultimate X match etc. Now Tna has turned itself into WCW 2.0!
So what? They aren't innovative because they aren't making more shit up? You can't be this stupid, can you? How are they like WCW? I haven't seen Robocop or The Yeteah! anywhere here yet. Then again, Gut-Check, Open Fight Night and the BFG Series are totally new concepts on mainstream wrestling. Maybe you should turn off the VCR and stop watching those old Thunder clips and start taking your own advice.

I find they are making the same mistakes that WCW made before their own demise. Nobody knows who's in charge backstage, Hogan has some stroke and that's not always a good thing. Most of their top stars prove to be unreliable (Flair, RVD, Jeff Hardy), with their no show antics the last couple of years.
Really? Last I checked, besides Ric Flair, RVD and Hardy have been solid for a good while. Not to mention they aren't even the top draws.
TNA has become a rest haven for WWE's wellness policy's worst offenders (Anderson, Hardy, RVD, Angle). The company puts faith in these guys and they embarrass themselves with their substance abuse issues. Hogan and Flair get on TV and bragg and make reference to HOF rings they received in WWE.
That was well over 2 years ago. Well, the latest of your claims anyway. The rest of the stuff pulls back to almost 6 years. I don't know about you, but if you wanna discuss the state of the company, look up the present numbskull.


Why does TNA allow this? It's almost as if your admitting to being a second rate company by allowing these things to go on. TNA has great talent that gets overshadowed every time a WWE castaway gets future endeavored! Anderson, RVD, Christian, Angle all won the TNA title months upon entering the company. AJ gets pushed back and put in dumb storylines, Overrated Vince Russo comes and goes.....
And has stayed gone for 6 months. Seriously, were you in a coma or some shit? Who the fuck gives a shit how long it took them to wn the World title? If they draw, good enough. AJ is awesome, but that man always failed to grasp good storytelling in the main event. Guys like James Storm, Bobby Roode and Austin Aries far surpass him on that department.

Is it just me? Help me out guys....restore my faith in TNA because the last Three years have been a big debacle!:banghead:
From what I can tell, those last three years were probably not these last 3 years. Also, you have not pointed out shit to anyone. You are just whining blindly and senselessly.
 
I have been saying for months now that WWE has been on auto-pilot since the death of WCW/ECW. They've not had any real competition aside from the hype that TNA had when they switched to Monday nights to go head-to-head with RAW. And that failed miserably, although I do give TNA props for having the balls to try.

That being said, I feel the OP hasn't really been watching Impact Wrestling lately. If he had, he would notice that the shows are actually improving. Bobby Roode is the champion and has been for damn near a year and doing wonders for improving prestiege for that title. The X-division is slowly making a return. The tag division is a small focus, but, it's better than anything WWE is tryin'. The TV title is definetely becoming a title worthy of being used again. Honestly, I have liked the energy of the live Impacts since they went back live. The shows seem stacked and moment-to-moment, which hasn't happened in WWE since the end of the attitude era.

As for the comment that TNA allows itself to be a "second-rate company", I don't agree. Look at how the NWA progressed into WCW. It took time. As it does with building any company. I think TNA have done a good job laying the foundation for becoming WWE's competitor. They just haven't gotten that essential piece of the puzzle to become legit contenders. I believe if they go back to wrestling and storytelling, they can become an alternative to WWE's entertainment overkill and people will watch just to see what they can do differently. They need to define their divisions and start focusing on having good matches and advancing story. If they keep up the live energy with that combination, Impact Wrestling will be set.
 
I have been saying for months now that WWE has been on auto-pilot since the death of WCW/ECW. They've not had any real competition aside from the hype that TNA had when they switched to Monday nights to go head-to-head with RAW. And that failed miserably, although I do give TNA props for having the balls to try.

That being said, I feel the OP hasn't really been watching Impact Wrestling lately. If he had, he would notice that the shows are actually improving. Bobby Roode is the champion and has been for damn near a year and doing wonders for improving prestiege for that title. The X-division is slowly making a return. The tag division is a small focus, but, it's better than anything WWE is tryin'. The TV title is definetely becoming a title worthy of being used again. Honestly, I have liked the energy of the live Impacts since they went back live. The shows seem stacked and moment-to-moment, which hasn't happened in WWE since the end of the attitude era.

As for the comment that TNA allows itself to be a "second-rate company", I don't agree. Look at how the NWA progressed into WCW. It took time. As it does with building any company. I think TNA have done a good job laying the foundation for becoming WWE's competitor. They just haven't gotten that essential piece of the puzzle to become legit contenders. I believe if they go back to wrestling and storytelling, they can become an alternative to WWE's entertainment overkill and people will watch just to see what they can do differently. They need to define their divisions and start focusing on having good matches and advancing story. If they keep up the live energy with that combination, Impact Wrestling will be set.


Key statement you put is Alternative to The E. Not just a straight up competitor. The E is more focused on kids, and pushing no talent bores like Danny Bryan, while Impact in my opinion is focused on the adult audience. Take away Punk's promo last year, and what has The E done that was remotely controversial? Impact is actually doing what all the IWC knobs have been clamming for awhile now. Making titles relevant. Quality wrestling matches. Some of the storyline booking could use improvement, but hey, one thing at a time.
 

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