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TLC PPV- John Cena vs. Sheamus - Tables Match- WWE Championship

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At first, I would have said that Sheamus has ZERO chance of capturing the title, being just propelled into the Main Event now, as of Monday. However, this really depends on what WWE's priorities are, at the moment.

If the company has heard the cries and felt the ire of wrestling fans on the Internet over the stale Main Event scene, it could be quite conceivable that Vince may have determined he wants a fresh face in the Main Event. Of course, having Triple H in your corner is certainly going to be beneficial, as well.

So where as I would have said "Not a chance", after taking into consideration a lot of things Jesse Ventura said on Monday (which were words a lot of the IWC have stated about a stale, boring WWE product) ... I would say that Sheamus now has a CHANCE to win. Maybe not great odds, but I feel that he does have a legitimate chance at this, if Vince is in the mood for a change.
 
Needless to say, this is a match that was unexpected. Absolutely nobody was anticipating Sheamus to win the battle royal and become the number one contender.

It's certainly interesting that people are saying that Sheamus has a very good chance of winning. That would surely be shocking. Personally, I think he is another Umaga, in that he is going to give Cena a good run, but loose to him in the end and have Cena coming out looking stronger. Not to discount Sheamus, it's possible he may win.

The match looks mediocre, at best, on paper.
 
I like the design of this match, because WWE can keep the belt on Cena while still continuing to build Sheamus up as a monster. And what better way to build Sheamus up by beating up on the poster boy of the WWE? Sheamus is definitely not ready for a WWE title reign, as it would probably fall flat and Sheamus would lose his momentum. I think Cena will put Sheamus over big time in this match, and knowing how the WWE loves to book Cena as superman, it will probably end with Cena throwing Sheamus through a table off the top rope with an Attitude Adjustment
 
WHOA!!

This epiphany just hit me like a ton of bricks. I had to create an account just to spread it. I was watching ECW last night and they did the usual Raw Rebound thing for half the show (other half was Abraham Washington I believe) and they decided to edit in pieces of Cena's WWE promos while The Body was talking about the (actual) conspiracy to keep the title on Cena.

Now why would they do that?

Easy, it's a subtle hint of things to come. This is how it'll all play out:

Sheamus actually wins the table match (okay just hear me out, I laughed at the thought too).

New Lillian announces, with a shocked voice ala Taker being Cena's partner, that the new WWE champion is...

NO CHANCE, Vince's music hits

He comes out and says that Sheamus wasn't supposed to win this match. Sheamus was giving the opportunity just to keep the belt on Cena. It's an actual (now storyline) conspiracy to keep the title on their golden boy. Sheamus with his pasty white skin and lack of exposure isn't marketable

Vince restarts the match

Makes sure Cena retains


Smell that smoke?
That's cuz I just blew your freakin' mind

Think about it. Cena aligns himself with Vince and effectively turns heel. Which has been badly needing to happen for a while now because he's getting more boos than pops. Then he can face Kofi for the championship in a traditional heel vs face at the RR. If Kofi wins, he will be a main eventer and Cena will be free to face Taker at Wrestlemania without being shat on as a good guy
 
I like the fact that WWE decided to have this match feature someone that has never held the World Championship. However, from the very moment I found that out, I automatically figured that Sheamus would win. I was right! I wish WWE would have made the concept a little less predictable. However, when you look at those involved in the battle royal (R-Truth, M.V.P., Mark Henry, The Legacy, Randy Orton, and Kofi Kingston), Sheamus was the only logical and obvious choice.

John Cena vs. Sheamus in a "Tables match" for the WWE Championship. Who would have thought that Sheamus would be main eventing a ppv in a WWE Championship match against John Cena, just 4 1/2 months after his debut? We haven't seen a Tables match in the WWE in a while, and we've never these two compete against each other. This match is fresh! And I don't believe a real feud will ignite from their TLC match, which can be good or bad, depending on whether they have good or bad chemistry.

Sheamus has really been getting a huge push as of late, and this WWE Championship match at the final ppv of the year is the icing on the cake. Cena will make Sheamus look like a star in their match, as he is so great at taking punishment from his opponents, no matter who they are. No matter the outcome, Sheamus will come out of their match even better than before.

Prediction: John Cena retains the WWE Championship!
 
There is no way I see Sheamus winning this one. However, thanks to the Tables stipulation, he also gets to walk away without a pinfall or submission loss. It's a win-win, really. Cena gets to put Sheamus over as a brute, the new guy gets a rub from the champ, does the job by getting knocked through a table, and still walks out an unpinned monster on a rampage. I could see Sheamus continuing to brutalize people until Cena gives him another title shot at the Rumble, at which time a new #1 contender is crowned. It works out for everyone involved.

I completely agree and I was saying this when he became the number one contender. This match is going to elevate Sheamus in one way or another. He won't win and I am almost sure of that, but he won't take a beating, he'll still look strong, and he can go on a rampage and continue looking strong. Ventura did a real good job at putting Sheamus over during Monday night Raw, and Cena did a good job at selling Sheamus' offense on Monday Night Raw. This is a win win for Sheamus because he wont lose any momentum.

Hopefully he proves his IWC doubters wrong. I am actually looking forward to this match because Cena performs well at Pay Per Views, and he can work with guys who have a very limited offense.
 
I don't even know why people are complaining about this match. Its not like Sheamus is going to win the match. He is the only heel that has momentum going. So stop complaining. Damn!
 
This should be a solid brawl, and which it's only purpose should be to elevate Sheamus. Cena doesn't need it, and I fully expect for Sheamus to beat John's ass for the majority of the match, and Cena come back in the end. As I watch the footage from Raw over and over again, Sheamus is reminding me more and more of Goldberg. At first, I wasn't too optimistic about this match, but after seeing the contract signing and Jesse's comments on Cena, I'm more excited. I think Vince is trying to increase ratings while staying PG, and it's slowly but surely working. Vince is at a crossroads and sees that TNA is stepping up their game, and he knows that he's got to do the same. Prepare for some unpredictability in the next few weeks of Raw...
 
I'm interested to see if Sheamus can handle this push or not. I mean he had an amazing showing at SS so maybe he can pull something off with John Cena.

It would be nice to see Sheamus have a great match. It could probably help him launch a rivalry with Cena to at least Royal Rumble.

Then again, maybe Sheamus would win. Maybe, he'll be a transitional champion and they could use that to push him towards the MITB in March.

I don't know, all I do know, is that Sheamus is going to benefit from this a lot.
 
I'm looking forward to this match. This match isn't intended for Sheamus to walk away with the championship, it's intended to show him a legitimate contender for the title and belongs in the main event scene.

Now, whether or not Sheamus makes good, we'll just have to wait and see. I think it'll be a good solid brawl though I'd feel much better about it if the no blood policy was tossed out the window for the match. Sheamus needs to look like a vicious brute coming out of the match that managed to take the champ to the very limit and blood makes it look all the more convincing. When I see blood in a wrestling match, my suspension of disbelief has no trouble believing the "Damn, this guy's just been in a fight" mentality that the WWE wants fans to come away feeling.

It can be done without having to resort to blood, but it's easier and provides a nice little visual stimulus.
 
Well obviously Cena will win. There's no one that's ever won a world title within 5 months of their debut. Both Brock Lesnar and Kurt Angle took longer, and Sheamus is nowhere near as talented as them. So Sheamus won't get the title.

But I don't think table matches are hard to do well. I know there have been few table matches throughout the years, especially singles tables matches. But table matches that I've seen have never had very complicated patterns. One sets up a table, and tries to slam his opponent through it, but there's a reversal and then keep going. Then at the end, there's a tense series of reversals that leads to someone going through the tables. That's the only spots that have ever really been in table matches, so it shouldn't be too hard for Cena and Sheamus to put on. But we shouldn't be expecting a classic of any kind, Sheamus isn't good enough for that. But yeah, it won't be a bad match. I think Cena can carry him a little bit.
 
As Blade, the only guy I read in here, said, this is an east choice on who will win. John Cena is not about to lose this late into the year and Sheamus is not about to win the title this young into his career.

Match makes Sheamus look elevated, giving him some main event exposure. On the other hand, Cena looks good beating another giant.

Being that it is a tables match, it gives Sheamus a shot at winning, as table matches are quite easy to have an upset winner.

I think it will end with Cena getting kicked onto a table, and Sheamus will go up to the top of the ropes to hid a leg drop, only for Cena to reverse it into an FU for the win.
 
I know Cena is going to win this match. Cena won't drop the belt to a new challenger right away, especially not someone in their first pay per view, first main event, first title match. That would make for one hell of an upset though, and with this being a tables match, anything is possible, but I just don't see it happening.

The good thing about this being a tables match though, is that neither man will lose any momentum. If Sheamus goes through a table, he can still be a dominant monster after, as he only went through a table, he wasn't pinned or anything. Same goes for Cena, if he should lose, he wasn't pinned to the lose the championship, he was put through a table, and even if Cena were beaten to a pulp somehow, he would still come out the next night and sell it so well the crowd would still love him.

This match is make or break for Sheamus though, it will either help elevate him, and potentially put him in the upper midcard, or it will break him, and he will be stuck with jobbers for a very long time. Either way, Jesse Ventura did a great job of helping build Sheamus up, and Cena sold those moves like a champ. This should be a good match, and I am looking forward to seeing it.
 
I think Sheamus might win it. My reasoning for this goes back to the several tantalizing possible endings hinted at in Cena Vs. DX that never matierialized, but each left the viewer momentarily thinking that they'd know how it would end.

I'm thinking brawl portion, Sheamus domination, then Cena rallies and it looks like Sheamus is out, but Sheamus rallies, etc. Then something happens and Cena goes through the table.

What I'd have liked to have seen would have been Jesse The Body as special guest enforcer, however last week's Carlito incident and the notable "Cena Sucks" chants at Raw suggest that outside interference might play a role.
 
I have no idea why I find this match to be so much of an oversight on the part of the WWE. By all accounts, Sheamus is a good competitor and has held his own against people who are on the same level as him. However, I think that this is too much of a push for him. Hopefully, I am wrong and he again holds his own against John Cena. I don't know if it is because of the main event scene that we have have been conditioned to seeing but I was caught completely off guard by the addition of Sheamus to the main even picture. My only hope is that he does not go the same way as The Miz. The Miz got a really good push against Cena and then Cena buried him in one match. Hopefully though, the WWE has learned their lesson there.

Personally, I don't see Sheamus actually winning the match. He is just not big enough to take it away from Cena yet.
 
If you all remember correctly: Kozlov had a World Championship opportunity as well! And I predict Sheamus' going the exact same way. Even the trip back to ECW. But with the way WWE is currently doing things, this is my prediction for this match:

Referee gets knocked out, Cena puts Sheamus through table, no referee to call the match, Cena revives referee, only to get put through table by Sheamus while not looking, Sheamus is your new WWE champion!

Next night on RAW, a recap of the match is shown, followed by Vince swimming in a pool of money ala scrooge mcduck, he's awoken by Cena, Vince says "I just dreamt that Sheamus beat u for the title and then I swam around in a pool of money", Cena responds "Well good thing it was only a dream, cuz I'm still WWE champion"

This show is so fucking stupid right now, I can actually see that happening. But of course it's already a forgone conclusion that SuperCena will eat him alive. We should be discussing who's next
 
Now that I'm thinking about it, I think they might just give Sheamus the win here. With 7 weeks between TLC and the Royal Rumble supposedly, what better way to shake things up then to try out a new champion? Sure Cena would win the belt back at some point, but why not give Sheamus a run with the belt and see how he does with it.

I mean sure, he hasn't earned it or anything like that, and he hasn't necessarily beaten anyone noteworthy, but I bet he'd make a half decent champion. If Sheamus does win though, I believe Cena will win the belt back at the Rumble, and possibly drop it at the next pay per view. But I'm not sure about this. I'd really like to see Sheamus win the championship, just to really freshen things up, but I'm not quite sure the crowd or the overall fans of the WWE would be accepting of it.
 
Hmmm, this could be really good, ( Yes i said it ) I've never really watched ECW so im not too sure on how the Celtic Warrior looks fighting a even fight ( Move sets etc - but i hope he has more than 5 unlike some :| ) There both pretty 'roided up, so it could be a really physical punch up, With SuperCena getting a win, but I hope its not a walk over cause raw defo needs new top end talent, I'd also like to add i could see a fued somewhere down the line with Sheamus and Orton, probably after WM, Sheamus can go back to his "i beat people cause i can" bs, starts picking on Hall of famers, orton gets pissed cause his the legend killer, it could be built up on jealousy etc etc, or we could see a new type of Tag team, Intermidgetbigman Champions, incoming hornswoggle :)
 
This match for me is not on the radar.Yeah Sheamus has been smashing everybody but as always John Cena will dig deep and show that the champ is here(BORING).this is going to be a cena comeback match.just like the 2007 rumble he is bleeding out cold and then ......he fights back and wins.It happens everytime,2006 New Years Revoultion bleeding fights back and what on Earth he wins.The only good thing was Edge coming out YAH.THE CHAMP WAS GONE.so Cena will win and fight someone at the royal and then something else will happen.Sheamus will slowly but surely will drift back down and another talent will be wasted.

Thats just me!
 
WWE Champion John Cena is facing Sheamus in a tables match for the title. Even though WWE has done a good job of making us have a hard time knowing who we think will win this.... I still gotta give it to Cena. Not just because I'm a Cena mark but also because I don't think Sheamus is ready yet. He has never held a championship in WWE yet, and I have a feeling that a huge match like this one is meant to get him more over BUT he probably won't win. I see Shamus losing this after being made to look like he might pull off a victory, then be moved down to the midcard a bit to further establish himself before actually winning a world title. Cena should win because no wrestler could be good enough to get the world title within months of showing up on Raw, in my opinion. They should establish themselves as a legit threat to the champion first by having won lower ranking titles first, and Sheamus has not done that yet.

DAGGER DIAS PREDICTION
John Cena will retain the WWE Championship.
 
After last RAW, I'm sold on Sheamus. I think WWE has been building this up really well, and it should be a very interesting match. I hope he and Cena can pull off something incredible. I would even buy a Sheamus win at this point, since they've done such a good job building him up.
 
I think that Sheamus will win this match. I think this because WWE is trying to push young superstars right? Why not build him into a big, macho, no one can take me down champion. I think this will be a very good match will alout of brutality, because we've seen Sheamus can be brutal (ex: retiring Jamie Noble). I think there could be a possibility that Legacy could come in near the end and make Sheamus win. If I remember right Orton couldn't get a rematch, but maybe he could fight with Sheamus for the title. Just a thought
 
I have gone back and forth with this one, trying to figure out if WWE has the balls to do it and give Sheamus the title in the name of freshening up the Main Event.

But at the end of the day, no ... I DO NOT see Sheamus winning this match. He will give Cena a run for his money and they will do another month or two worth of PPV's, but no I don't see him getting the title. Reason being is because I don't think they are ready to give the title to someone so new for that honor .... over Cena.

Rather, they will have turned him into a key new face in the Main Event, but no I really don't see them going through with giving him the title.
 
What I want to happen and what will happen are two different things. Ideally, they'd have Sheamus win the belt thanks to some sort of interference or a fluke reversal or something. It'd be a change of pace to shock us and even as I'm talking about it, it would still shock me to see Sheamus win the belt.

However, Cena's not going to drop the belt to someone who's been on Raw less than two months. Even if he's HHH's training partner, I don't see Vince letting the belt be taken off of Cena by someone so new. I don't see Cena having the belt too much longer because he's filming a movie, but Sheamus won't be the one to have the belt. It would be a mark out moment if he did win, but I see Cena taking this.
 
I have no idea how I feel about this match. I dont know If I really want to see it or not.

I would love to see sheamus winning the title just to take it off cena. But at the same time I don't think that will happen at all. It is to early for him and you also need to build yourself up better before getting a title. Sheamus just needs more buildup. So I don't see him winning it.

Prediction: Cena
 
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