Барбоса;5707287 said:
Corbyn does not deserve a chance to be PM.
He ran a decent, basic, traditional Labour campaign offering hope, but against the worst performing PM in living memory, with a tragically bad campaign strategy, he still came a distant second.
He doesn't deserve to be prime minister
now or he doesn't deserve to go into the next election as leader of the party?
If it's now: obviously. He and McDonnell suggesting Labour form a minority government is just a way to prod the Conservative Party and inflate the scale of Labour's achievement. Only those with basically no understanding of politics (e.g. a handful of my Facebook friends) think that a Labour minority government supported by other parties on a vote by vote basis is remotely feasible.
If it's next election: he's blatantly not going anywhere - and, if he is, it's because he's confident that the votes for a younger Corbynista with cleaner hands can be secured - and it would appear that his opponents within the party are happy to line up behind him. Let's not pretend that he had everything going in his favour going into this election, despite Theresa May taking every opportunity to look like a malfunctioning android. A rabid right wing press is something that you can't change (or at least not if you're from the part of the political spectrum that Corbyn is) but a disunited party and a reputation as an incompetent... apparently you just might.
"Distant second" is also quite harsh. The fear before the election was that Labour would rack up the votes in safe seats and lose seats as their vote share grew. As it happened, their vote share grew and their seat share grew as well, but they still have lots of votes locked away in seats where they're surplus to requirements. They secured a ten point swing, only came 2.4% behind the Tories in the national vote and established an electoral map that is substantially more favourable than the one they had heading in. I'll concede that to win an election in the UK one has to win
within first past the post and be subject to all its bullshit whims, but Labour's in a much better position to do so now than it was even in 2015.
Maybe someone in the know can answer a question for me. Here in Canada the party with the most seats in the House of Parliament is the majority, of course. The leader of that party becomes the Prime Minister, aka Justin Trudeau right now. The party with the next highest amount of seats becomes the minority and everyone else falls in line behind them.
How is it that May can have a minority in Parliament and still be Prime Minister? You would have thought that losing seats and becoming the minority, she would have had to step down and the majority leader take over the reigns.
There
is no majority leader. May's Conservative Party is the largest party in Parliament despite failing to secure an outright majority. It's not unprecedented, even in post-war history - Harold Wilson formed a minority government in February 1974 (although there was another election called in October of that year, in which Wilson was returned with a majority). Providing May can secure enough votes (this is where the DUP comes in) she could be Prime Minister for another five years (spoiler: she won't be).
I'll not pretend to have the slightest inkling about how Canadian Parliament works but, on the basis that most parliaments are based on British Parliament, I'd imagine the principles would apply there as well.
