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Somebody tell me why so many people are jumping onto this bandwagon of answering questions from all-comers? I don't get it -- do you really think it's going to help you? Harthan's thread was just him and KB shooting the shit, Milenko ran himself into about 16 different corners, and J4L proved just about nothing. You're not actually answering any questions, but let's just put that aside -- what questions are there out there that you actually have to answer? I can think of one: Why are you fit to win this election?
Thus far, I've seen one or two guys actually give a concrete answer. Half the people in this election are just in it to go through the motions, just because they want to try to connect on that last-ditch Hail Mary. I get it, hell, I respect it. If you're willing to devote time to moderating, more power to you... but don't waste everybody's time if you KNOW you're just in this for shits. There's a tier of people that ACTUALLY fit the criteria, at least somewhat, they're the people everybody wants to see. Don't get me wrong, it's fun to see [Generic Candidate 101] run up a wall trying to convince us that he's for it, commitment is half the battle, but if you legitimately can't back any of that up... what's the point?
I've said it before and I'll say it again -- I think I stand a chance. Coco has rabid support, the ABC Party has lots of members (I still think their voter turnout will STUN them), Harthan's a former mod, etc. There's some solid contenders in this thing, but I think I'm one of the best in this contest. I post consistently, I post quality, and I'm willing to put the time in. I'm running for Wrestling mod, because I care about those sections and I can be a solid contributor. I'm not going to give you empty promises, because in my year and a half on these forums, I've done lots of stuff, had lots of fun, but I've also contributed quite a bit. Over that time, I gained an understanding of what a moderator needs to know, of what he needs to do. Any single trained monkey can press two buttons and randomly delete posts and whatnot, what separates me from those people and puts me past that is my judgement. All the moderators understand what it takes and I think I do too.
Being a moderator isn't about the bold name, it's not about being "better" than anybody -- I understand that now. Being a moderator is about going out and doing a job, about keeping this place running smoothly. Lots of people don't understand this. I guarantee that some of the people running in this election just want a seat at the big boy's table, they feel entitled to have it... they've got it all wrong. This is a job, one that I am more than ready to do. I want to step into the Wrestling sections, wherever KB and Slyfox see fit (if I win) and do my job. You have to keep the section clean, you have to sift through spam and whatnot, but you HAVE to keep the section running. You have to be able to differentiate between what should and should not be in your section and that is MUCH harder than it seems. Harthan and I had a discussion about this very thing, but you have to be able to differentiate between what should or should not be in your section. It's not all about posting a lot, but it's also not about ruling with an iron fist. I get that, I honestly think I have a solid combination of traits to be a moderator. I'm not just some random regular in the Wrestling sections, I'm a guy who is always working to do his best.
That's my two cents. I answered just about every question I should in one simple post. I don't need to waste your time and beat around the bush, I got straight to it. I appreciate that the other candidates all tried to get their information out there, from all the parties, I really do. It told me a lot about who wants to win this and who treats this as a joke, I'm sure I'm not the only one, either.
Off my phone -- true story.
Perhaps drive discussion isn't as good a word for what I think we need as someone to guide discussion: someone that can make sure a thread stays on topic and doesn't devolve into bickering or rambling.
As for that one long post Crock made... I think it's quite obvious that the time he'd normally spend in the WWE section he's spending on trying to win this election.
I don't know how such an obvious explanation seems to be evading you, shattered.
Perhaps drive discussion isn't as good a word for what I think we need as someone to guide discussion: someone that can make sure a thread stays on topic and doesn't devolve into bickering or rambling.
As for that one long post Crock made... I think it's quite obvious that the time he'd normally spend in the WWE section he's spending on trying to win this election.
I don't know how such an obvious explanation seems to be evading you, shattered.
Which is why someone that spent the past few weeks talking various people down in the spam sections while entirely ignoring the section they supposedly care about is anything but the ideal choice.
If he can't multi-task how does that make him a good candidate? I have no idea why you chose the word evade there because that is a large point of my point. He is only interested in himself. He doesn't give a damn about the section. He certainly isn't fully committed to making it better or any bullshit like that. He is committed to what he wants and all he wants is the glory. Why he thinks there is glory I have no idea but that is a topic for a different time. If it is so hard for him to make non-spam posts then I don't see how he is such a prime candidate to "guide" the section. The point is he is trying to win the election and the entirety of his strategy has nothing to do with actually guiding the section in the least. As such anyone claiming that is an obvious reason he is the best choice has no fuckin idea what they are talking about.
I have nothing against Crock but he isn't a prime non-spam mod candidate. Sure he could do it, there are plenty of people that could do it, it isn't like it is hard. However, the jump from could do to would be one of the best is what no has explained at all yet. He has the non-spam pussy on a pedestal but he spends all his time on a bunch of ****s. I want my politicians to romance a classier broad like wicked valentine.
No that's what you are saying. And of course since your a big shot here that's all that matters. It obviously wouldn't matter if I proved you wrong on the matter 1000 different ways.
There's a little thing you clearly know nothing about called "discretion". I used the word "*****" in a non-offensive way, you can try to say otherwise all you like, and anyone else can try to justify overreacting to it all they like, it was a bullshit call. Of course I am the bad guy though. I was before I ever said a word since I'm not "one of the boys" and have the nerve to say anything against you. That must hurt your ego.
Oh, so giving my side of the situation is arguing now?
Funny how when someone says something you don't like it's whatever you tag it. So it's arguing when I try to explain how what I did wasn't really worth of an infraction or breaking the rules at all? Just saying something contrary to what you think is arguing? What a funny interpretation.
Again, I never posted a racial slur, I used a slang term. There is a difference. Black people have no problem with it, it's not a racial slur to them when they call each other ***** 5 times in the same sentence, it's not a racial slur any other time. That is, until one of you say so of course regardless of any obvious notes to the contrary.
Well if I was a mod like you and apart of the boys club
it wouldn't matter what I did now would it? I could talk endless shit to people without repercussion, hit people with infractions because I don't like their stances on topics or what they say, and be as big a douchebag as I want hiding behind a computer and an imaginary wand of power.
That's nice, way to show what a noble and just leader you are, and how maturely you can handle a situation. If you wig out and get this defensive dealing with little old me, I'd hate to see what would happen if someone that didn't have to put up with any of your crap stood up to you.
You take this shit way too seriously, you use it as a tool to brow beat people that you otherwise couldn't in real life, you probably eat a lot of shit IN real life which is why you take it out on people on the internet that conveniently for you can't do anything back but type, and it makes you look pathetic and sad that this is what you must resort to to feel so important and powerful. Basically, your a fucking loser, both on here and in real life obviously. You try to pick on people who are basically defenseless which also makes you a coward. I'll refer you to one of my favorite quotes "Buy a Bullet, Rent a Gun".
Oh and BTW, we're in the bar room where anything goes so I can tell you that and you can't do a fucking thing about it. There's your rules for you dipshit.
While many of the candidates have been in here arguing I've been focusing my energy on making the forum a better place
You are wrong. Nate has only been a mod for a few months. He has done his job pretty well, but there have been a few weeks where he's been too busy to mod.
The WWE section isn't bad by any means, but it could be better. Another pair of hands to help clean up the mess, and he could also help drive the discussion.
2) Nick expressed no interest in modding The Cigar Lounge. Why would we make someone the mod of a section they're not interested in?
I don't disagree, but I don't think there's a huge difference between them. TNA doesn't gets as much action, and IDR does a more than adequate job of modding the section.
Your logic isn't exactly sound, but even if the amount of TNA posters did increase, I doubt it'd be to the point that IDR couldn't handle.
Additionally, that's a bridge we can cross when we get there. As of now it doesn't need another mod, so why waste a vote on it?
Calling them foolish is a little harsh. I'd say behind the times.
G-Mods have to worry about every section. It'd be nice for D-Man, X, and jmt if they had someone whose primary focus was on the spam sections.
Uh... you're joking, right?
3) It could be said, but I disagree. The V&T section pretty much runs itself right now. If there comes a time that we need a mod for the section, Sly and KB will appoint one.
Now you're just being silly. At no point did I say we shouldn't get new mods because it would mean training them, but you can't deny having someone with prior experience is a tremendous help. Why do you think real companies hire employees with prior experience in the field.
Very... VERY high.
The question you should be answering is that has there been any talk on anywhere on this forum about getting a guy to help Nate out before the elections were announced. It could be easy for you to lie especially because most of us do not access the board room but I hope you do the right thing.
Crock last posted on 27th November and most of his latest posts have come in just one thread. Not exactly driving discussion.
My point exactly. Harthan showed no interest in the potluck section, did not even post there, till the elections were announced. Suddenly he is all hunky dory about modding the potluck section. Sounds to me like a guy who is suddenly interested in that section for the mere purpose of becoming a mod.
TNA gets more traffic than you are admitting. On it's big days like major PPVs and shows, it sometimes even surpasses the traffic the WWE section gets. Also the TNA section has way more trolls than the WWE section. IDR does a very good job but with the expansion coming up having one mod is way too few for that section.
Also, didn't Jack-hammer mod that section too until recently
That is true for any section, including spam. Let's stop the elections right now.
Interesting. How exactly are you ahead of times as compared to them?
G-Mods do not neccesarily have to worry much about non spam sections because the mods of those sections do their jobs well.
Also, not having an exclusive spam mod has worked till now. Why fix what ain't broke?
I've been at the recieving end of arguements by both Sly and Coco. I'm talking from personal experience.
That's a biased statement if there ever was one. Ask anyone who visits that section regularly and they will tell you that there are tons of spam posts in that section.
The best example of a section looking after itself is the spam section. Because there are practically no rules to enforce.
Yeah, the appointment of a corporate executive is equivalent to appointing a mod on a website?
Simply put, you have to learn very few things to be a mod here and the mental capacity required for the job isn't exactly high. So, it does not make much of a difference.
Also I am told that Harthan didn't do a great job as WZCW mod the first time round. That is what Dave said in his rundown of the candidates anyway.
Whether people believe he should give it to someone else who hasn't been a mod or not, he is the only candidate who can legitimately say that he had a good run as a moderator.
Then, why has there been no poster like Jackiz in the past 6 months since Jackiz got banned.
Except they do. D-Man warns and infracts posts in the non-spam sections everyday.
Harthan is too intelligent for that becoming a mod for the glory bullshit. He wants to mod the section because it's a place where he can have intelligent conversations with people about various topics.
Additionally, that's not you're point exactly. Whether or not Harthan has ever posted in the section is irrelevant, because he's proven himself to be a skilled, intelligent posters in other sections, and he expressed interest in modding a section where those two qualities are important. On the other hand, Nick is certainly an intelligent and skilled poster, but he never expressed interest in modding the Cigar Lounge... at all. Really, this is a pointless debate and one of the worst points you've made yet.
It really doesn't. It's a busy section, no doubt, but IDR generally has it on lock down. Nights of big PPVs may get busy, but that's why we have G-Mods, right? Or is that an argument only you're allowed to use?
I'm not sure about that, but the fact they took him off should tell you something about how badly that section needs a mod.
Because this isn't an election for which section needs a mod, it's an election for who gets the privilege of being a mod. Isn't that obvious? Don't you think if we really needed a mod, KB and Sly would either appoint one or limit the sections you could run for?
Because I think we need a spam mod. I'm not sure if KB and Sly agree with that, but the fact that we don't currently have one says something.
Except they do. D-Man warns and infracts posts in the non-spam sections everyday.
As have I, and I find both of them have a tendency to go for the jugular.
Just looked through the section. Found one spam post. If there are more, they seem to be disappearing fairly quickly.
Except that's not true. There's prejudiced language all the time in spam sections, and it'd be nice to have Coco there to infract and delete before we have a hundred responses to the one guy that called John Cena a ***.
Let's not forget that we were able to get rid of the horrible Uncle Chester because of a spam post.
There was. cm_punk12 (I think), now in prison as Fungus Head (I think).
But if a section really needs a mod according to the people, don't you think that that should be a determining factor in their vote?
So since Crock has admitted he has the time "now" let us review what he did from yesterday until now after he posted his 14th time in this thread yesterday alone.
-10 posts in Jglass thread in bar room
-14 NFL LD
-2 posts on making sure his party list is ready
-commented on a wwe topic in SPAM section
-3 posts pretending he is nice to milenko (assuming to try and get votes) in the bar room
-1 GSD on MMA
-2 WZCW
-some other bar room post
-posted his rep
-0 WWE non-spam posts
-0 non-spam posts period
Who cares if you post or not. CM never posted and he's one of the best mods ever.
Mods don't have to be demi-gods, and nobody expects them to be. If a mod needs a week or two to take a break from posting, nobody is going to object to that. Crock doesn't have to be in the WWE Section 24/7, he just needs to infract/warn/delete/merge posts and threads, and make posts when he sees fit. It's about quality, not quantity.
Why are you harping on this? Lee, a former mod, and Jglass, a current mod, have both said that frequency of posting is largely an irrelevant factor in judging the performance or quality of a moderator.
Why do you insist on continually arguing this, when the people that have tangible experience tell you differently?