I just read here on WZ a few days ago an article where both CM Punk and John Cena stated that Triple H and Vince McMahon wanted them fired years ago. Vince I can understand since WWE is his company. But who on earth is Triple H to have any real say in either man's firing. There are not many stars other than Cena and Punk who've been given a chance since Rock and Austin to shine through as much as Triple H. And you all know how I feel about Triple H's star 'drawing' power. So you have two of perhaps the top 2 wrestling entertainers of the past 10 years ON RECORD stating that they were pretty close to being fired because the owner of the company and his son-in-law didn't like them or see any potential. In fact, I believe someone within the company in both situations pleaded their case for them and that's the only reason they weren't BURIED.
So I'm going to go on and on here because the OP and thread is fucked and some posters here just don't want to hear the evidence. I've read 10 or 20 posts here with just as much evidence supporting the so-called myth of Triple H burying other wrestlers as there is so-called evidence that debunks it. Just because you're the OP and you think you have the final say on an issue you think you have an answer for, doesn't give you the right to think you have the authority to say the case is closed. If anything's clear here, it's that there is a percentage of people out there who believe Triple H has buried wrestlers directly or indirectly throughout his entire career. In past posts I've given at least 10 examples where other wrestlers went on record to say they were buried by him. I can also give examples of guys I don't believe Triple H buried. Here are both lists.
Buried: (career diminished, stalled, terminated, overshadowed, badly booked or dominated in a feud)
1 Bret Hart. Hitman didn't say it. It was Trips buddy Michaels who said the Screwjob idea was proposed to McMahon by none other than Triple H. Since that day, WWE's fortunes have been through the roof. Before that day, it appeared WWE would reach its demise. I believe Vince thinks Triple H saved his legacy and he forever owes him for helping him figure out how to put it to Bret Hart. I believe Vince saw a younger, cutthroat version of him in Triple H when this decision was made, and this has lead to everything Triple H has ever accomplished. Cronyism.
2 Owen Hart. If I remember correctly, he was the last little piece of Hart turd that needed to be flushed out of the WWE. Owen was world title material till his feud with Triple H. He should have feuded with Shawn to avenge his brother. Instead he was reduced to the Blue Blazer gimmick.
3 Marc Mero. Go look up a RAW from a few years ago. You get a pretty good idea from what Triple H says to Dusty Rhodes that he had no use for the guy.
4 Steve Austin. Is Austin not around anymore because of his health or is he not around because he knows that Triple H is really the one running the show? If you were the top dog in perhaps the history of wrestling, then how would you maintain that legacy with a legacy parasite like Triple H and his wife dictating everything from 2000 on? You'd quit.
5 The Rock. Truth is the guy wouldn't have maintained the legacy he has had he not left. He'd still be considered huge but not the same. Had Rock stuck around, Triple H and the booking team would try everything in their power to diminish The Rock to make Triple H look bigger.
6 Hulk Hogan. Hogan came back to WWE and got to beat Triple H for the world title. Yes, even Triple H jobbed to the greatest of all time. He didn't bury him there. But in the year or two later, Hogan and WWE had a falling out with Trips whispering in Vince's ear the whole time. I bet Shawn overselling the legdrop of doom was all Triple H's idea. Triple H and Shawn have that kind of sway, they were the two members of the Cliq that stayed loyal to WWE and they've been rewarded ever since. But Triple H moreso because he had absolutely no conscious about what happened to Bret Hart. Anyway, Hogan and Bischoff now run rival company TNA and Triple H and Stephanie run WWE. It's the battle of the biggest control freak 'barriers' in all of wrestling.
7 Jeff Hardy. Hardy gets canned from WWE for his addiction to drugs that help him through the physical pain he feels every day of his life due to putting his heart and soul into every physical demanding match he's ever been part of. WWE has no health plan for its wrestlers, so the guys who put it all on the line have to find ways to alleviate the pain. Guys like Randy Orton who do what they do to improve their look can stay because they're good buddies with the boss of bosses. But a guy like Hardy who is outspoken about Triple H gets canned because WWE does not want to take responsibility for another death connected to drugs. To alleviate pain. Pain caused by years of selling your soul to WWE. Triple H can float on by wrestling in simple Hogan like matches because of his 'clout'. Triple H can pass roid testing because of who he is while no one else can.
8 Mr Kennedy. This guy is a perfect example of being buried. You may ask, 'how do i know Triple H had anything to do with burying him'. Ask Mr. Kennedy, look him up on
youtube or go read what he had to say when he was let go.
9 Scott Steiner: Same as above. Steiner was old though and looked like shit in the ring. Steiner had an awful lot of shit to say about Triple H 7 years ago, just like he's saying about Hogan now.
10 RVD. It's no secret that RVD doesn't like Triple H. He outed Triple H more than most people and he directly holds Triple H responsible for his career momentum stalling.
11 Kurt Angle. You can tell Angle is too classy to come right out and say anything but his firing had to do with the concern Vince had for his health. I bet if Triple H didn't have the power he has in determining legacies, we'd hear about a 'hacked' tweet from Angle bashing Triple H and calling him out. Angle was one of the biggest threats to Triple H's status as top heel and Mr. Levesque stood to gain the most from Angle leaving. I can't say Angle was 'buried', but he definitely had his legacy devalued when he was let go by WWE. I know, you Triple H-obsessed marks believe that's his own fault. But, like I said about Hardy above, Angle put his body on the line like almost no one for so long for Vince. Triple H did not have to exert himself anywhere near the same extent. So guys like Triple H can walk around relatively healthy with their snobby heads held high because they never exerted themselves to the extent of everyone else to make Vince rich as hell. But it's the charismatic guys like a Scott Hall, a Randy Savage, an Eddie Gurerrero, a Kurt Angle or a Jeff Hardy who had to pay the price. All that hard work for Vince's company and Triple H's future company wasn't really worth it, just to end up fired, dead or toiling in TNA with a diminished legacy.
12 Shawn Michaels. Yes, even his best buddy was to some extent buried. Watch the old DX segments. Michaels come across as a girly buffoon, while Triple H portrays himself above his buddy. Shawn had to make Triple H look big in their feud. Shawn was allowed one world title in his 8 years back while Triple H won about 8 in the same time frame. Michaels got to wrestle some of the best ever Wrestlemania matches but not in the main event like Triple H. I don't know if that's exactly burying, but it definitely is 'lessening' Michael's legacy. Shawn is a reformed Christian and will not speak out against being second fiddle. The old Shawn wouldn't let his buddy walk all over him but that's what Triple H is all about. Where's the proof Triple H did this to Shawn? His wife was head of the booking team for the past 10 years and has always been able to veto anything to do with her husband. To me, that's a conflict of interest. Triple H has Hulk Hogan-like creative control over WWE and has had it for twice as long as Hogan ever had.
13 Road Dogg and Billy Gunn. Not like they were primed for stardom. But Triple H was one of their best friends and he basically turned his back on them because he 'outgrew' them. You can add Chyna to this list, as Triple H cheated on her with Stephanie and then they just fired her. She's nuts now, probably always was, but she'll go on record to say Triple H was responsible for her WWE demise.
14 CM Punk. There's no denying that this guy had more momentum than anyone last summer. Then Triple H came back. I block out last fall because things were getting so good and then CM Punk got put on the backburner. Sure, he won the title at Survivor Series. But it wasn't a legacy-defining moment. I barely even noticed it and it was overshadowed by the main event. To me, Punk is the perfect example of being buried. He can be champ and beat everyone, but the time to do this was either before Survivor Series or at Wrestlemania. Triple H took center stage as the COO, he took Punk's place against Nash to beat him. There was a segment where Triple H was in the ring with Punk and Triple H was talking down to him and you could see in CM Punk's eyes that Triple H was putting himself over in the segment just to diminish Punk. Of course, Punk will never come out and say what he honestly thinks about Triple H. If he did, everything he has now will be lost. That's what's so hypocritical about Punk's character. The guy is suppose to be a no bull shit kind of guy, but he has to put up with bullshit just like everyone else.
15 Goldberg. He ran into the same wall with Triple H as he did with Kevin Nash when 'the streak' abruptly came to an end.
Guys who I believe were NOT buried..but were still nonetheless also used to elevate Triple H's undeserved legacy
1 Randy Orton. Friend. Triple H did advance his career but made sure that he never outshined him. So, in a way, Triple H did prevent Orton from reaching his level. Triple H realized the potential and let him realize some of it but at the same time got in his way. I wouldn't exactly call this burying though. Orton would have been nothing had he not befriended him though. Cronyism.
2 Batista. Same as Orton except Batista was lower in the pecking order. He had to leave to try and re-establish himself like Lesnar.
3 Chris Jericho. Triple H did elevate Jericho, there's no denying this. He did this in the ring and these guys worked really well together. I believe Jericho should have had 13 world titles instead of Triple H though. As for backstage stuff, I bet Jericho has deep down contempt for Triple H. You would too if somebody with less potential or charisma who was about your age was calling all the shots and held your career and legacy in the palm of your hands. Jericho has to go and reinvent himself in pop culture every couple of years because sticking around WWE for any length of time means taking a subservient role behind Triple H as the #2 heel.
4 Edge. This guy accomplished more than I ever thought he would in the late 90s. Triple He did not stand in his way. He didn't have to, Edge put his body on the line so dangerously that he had to retire at 37 years of age. Guys like Edge, Mick Foley, Benoit or Eddie who were better at playing the 'face' and liked to destroy their bodies didn't always pose that big a threat to Triple H as those like Angle or Kennedy who could have had much longer careers as dominant heels.
5 Cena. John Cena is only at where he's at because he is the best workhorse in the history of wrestling and he can be milked better than anyone. If Cena had any attitude, lack of energy or lip service for Triple H, the plug would be pulled and no more Cena. I think Triple H has tried to stand in the way of Cena and it just doesn't work. Cena is one case where Triple H has to just fuck off when it comes to determining what happens with his company. Cena is a cash cow.
6 Taker. There is no way Triple H could 'bury' Taker although he had three Wrestlemania chances to do so. Triple H needs Taker. Taker's gimmick will go down as the best gimmick in wrestling of all time. Triple H needs Taker to attach himself to him because he will go down as one of the top 10 best ever. In order to have one of the best legacies, Triple H needs guys like Taker who are contractly-obliged to make him look legendary.
7 Sheamus. This guy is likely the biggest butt kisser in the new era of wrestling and Triple H loves it. This guy gets a great push and hasn't really done anything to deserve it. There's no way a pale Irish guy will ever surpass Triple H. So his push is not interfered with.
8 Booker T. Truth is though that a lot of wrestlers from WCW that came to WWE and were buried in the beginning. I don't think a lot of the WCW guys should have been getting big pushes though so I don't really think Booker T was buried. I think he was over pushed in the later years of WCW.
9 Jeff Jarrett. I don't really think his career was buried so much as he wasn't that big a deal anyway. Fact is, he left WWE too many times and was not allowed back.
10 Ric Flair. He was not buried whatsoever. He was brought in and aligned with Triple H to help build Triple H's legacy. Flair got to have his career revived but really Flair's old age push was essentially done to make Triple H look like a new age Flair.
