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The Tag Division Thread: Thoughts, Ideas, & Complaints

Who Could save the Tag Division

  • The Hardy Boyz

  • The Dudleys

  • Edge and Christian

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Its always the same problem in the WWE, instead of actual tag teams they take 2 guys who have nothing else to do and team them up. The WWE pushes the fact that every guy on their roster is there to pursue the dream that is the WWE Title. I see nothing wrong with 2 guys saying their dream is to become the best tag team ever, and that being their goal. Not being out for themselves but out to make a name for their team. Can it happen? Yes. Will it happen? Probably not its just not the way the E books things.

If the Tag division was to be rescued these are the teams I would like to see.

The Hart Dynasty - these 2 never should have been split in the first place and for a while struck me as the first true tag team in the WWE for a while.

The Uso's - I can't see a point in these 2 ever being split up. How can you push 2 guys who are completely identical as singles.

The Edgeheads(Hawkins & Ryder) - Bring these 2 back together. It can be a tribute to Edge or they can change their name and at Trent Barretta to the group and they can fight under Freebird rules where any combination can defend the title.

Los Aviadores or The Colons - Either bring up Los Avidores from FCW or bring Tito up to team with Primo.

Any stable can have a team such as Nexus or The Corre, would also like to see the Fortunate Sons stable happen and you can have Ted and Brett Dibiase or have one of them team up with Husky Harris or bring up Bo Rotundo and have him team with Husky as any of these pairings would work for that stable.

Also resign Shelton Benjamin and Charlie Hass. If this was to happen you would have 5 permanent tag teams and then a few mixes from any stable that may be around and it would make for a great Tag Division.
 
I like the idea of tag teams made up of two guys that are pretty muchthe same build/weight/height also. May be cool to resign Mable/Viscera whatever he was last called and have him team up with Brodus Clay to form something along the lines of the Natural Disasters. Get some high flying tag teams together also so the WWE can mix it up when booking tag matches rather than the same old match just wth different wrestlers involved.
 
I'm a huge fan of tag team wrestling, and if done right I think it could and should be a showcase of every wrestling promotion. TNA has Beer Money and MCMG, ROH has The Kings of Wrestling, Haas & Benjamin, the Briscoes, and many more, and WWE has...Kane & Big Show? Slater & Gabriel? There are a few tag teams I would love to see, but I really don't think WWE has any intentions of making the tag belts matter any more...

Sheamus & Drew McIntyre: Ever since Jerry Lawler called these guys the Celtic Connection in the Royal Rumble, I was hooked. Two viscous heels that could constantly be trying to one-up each other by being more evil than the other.

Rey Mysterio & Sin Cara: Um...yes.

Randy Orton & Cody Rhodes: I realize that Orton is one of the top "faces" in the business right now, and Cody Rhodes is a mid-card heel on another brand. I also realize they have a history and it didn't work out so well for Cody when they broke up... However, I would love to see Orton go to Smackdown and "see something" in Rhodes. Maybe Orton was wrong about Cody, and takes him under his wing again. Let them win the tag belts and build Cody as a legit contender, before Rhodes eventually stabs Orton in the back leading to the one-on-one match that could make Cody's career as a main eventer.
 
WWE clearly doesn't car about real tag teams. Watch WWE Superstars in early 2010 and you'll see what I'm talking about. You have two tag teams who were great: The Gatecrashers and The Dudebusters. Both these teams worked very well together and had great chemistry together. Gatecrashers had a great Diesel/Nash feel and Dudebusters had such an E & C feel about them. When WWE had a tag team turmoil at Night of Champions were either of these two teams featured? No. Thrown together teams were instead.

If WWE had to make teams that were entertaining then they could make use of their undercard. Here are my suggestions:
NYC:New York Connection Consisting of Curt Hawkins, Trent Barretta and maybe Zack Ryder.
They're young, hella talented and all are from NYC. All three of these guys have teamed together either in FCW, OVW, WWE or New York Wrestling Connection. They have the experience together and none of them are doing anything but job so why not? IT couldn't hurt. Zack would be a good addition to them as he has personality that could help the rest of them also develop personalities from. They all hold very positive qualities about them aswell. Zack shows a lot of personality in the ring, Curt is a great technician and Trent is extremely athletic.
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Primo and Tito Colon
Primo going nowhere. He has a cousin in development. It just makes sense. They are both talented put them together and do something with them.
 
We need the Dudley's back, both made all there matches exiting to watch
(Also Edge And Christian)
If both these team were to ever reunite, the tag team division would be grand again!
 
IMO Raw is a bit overcrowded, while SD! is a little lacking in star power, so either ship a few guys over, or tag them up.

And appease the IWC, while you're at it, Uncle Vince, by pushing Zack Ryder and his partner.
 
Big show and Kane are the saviors of the tag team divison. They are a credible tag team and can make any heel look impressive by beating them. They are one of four credible tag teams:Them, Gabriel and Slater, Uso's, And santino and Kozlov. Thats when you know your in trouble when one of the best tag team title runs in the last year or so has been by comedy jobbers. Good God retire the titles while they still have the tiniest bit of meaning.
 
I've always wanted to see Evan Bourne and Yoshi Tatsu team up. They may be undercard enhancement talent but I definitely do like both of them, especially Bourne. I think they would make a nice tag team. If London and Kendrick (whom I enjoyed thoroughly) could be tag team champs, I don't see why Bourne and Tatsu couldn't form a team and win the belts somewhere down the line.
 
WWE needs new tag teams!
Big Show & Kane actually brings back prestige to the tag titles becaause they are both former world champs.

The Hart Dynasty - they need to reuinite and kick some ass because they work very good as a team. (FACE)

The Uso's - they need time to develop, their still green, classic heel tag team right here, definitely good matches with the Hart Dynasty. (HEEL)

Fortunate Sons - Brett & Ted Dibiase, both can work as a great team & its givees Ted something to do. (HEEL)

Gabriel & Slater - The Corre is goingn down & these two should stick together and work as a team. (HEEL)

Caylon Croft & Trent Baretta - These guys have TALENT, ultimate babyface tag team right here! Imagine these guys working a match with Gabriel, & the talented Tyson Kidd.
(FACE)

Primo & Carlito Colon - Latino luchador tag team, Carlitos better as a heel, can have great highflying matches with Croft and Baretta, Hart Dynasty. (FACE)

William Regal & Paul Burchill - Heel british team, give them something to do, great technical wrestlers. (HEEL)

If they revive the tag team division, we might actually have another awesome TLC tag team title match :D
One can only dream!
 
Big Show and Kane, Slater and Gabriel, The Uso's, Bring back The Edgeheads(Ryder and Hawkins) and some team freom the indy. Let Big Show/Kane have the titles for 3/4 months and the other teams to fight for the numberone contender spot. They wil win the titles from Show and Kane and will feud with the other teams, meanwyle Show and Kane will slowly step away and some other team will take their place
 
So with the draft and the influx of new stars could we see the rebuilding finally of a decent tag division? Curt Hawkins and Zack Ryder have the potential to be reformed, especially if they make Hawkins entertaining like Ryder, then we could potentially have this generations E & C. Slater and Gabriel are 3 time tag champs, so why not have them break away from The Corre so Wade can break into the main event and Zeke can be in the midcard. The Usos havent been broken up and they were drafted which is a plus. Why not have Regal and Yoshi form a team, reminiscent of Regal and Tajiri. They both could be faces, and we all know Yoshi isnt going anywhere because he cant speak English. Then you keep Big Show and Kane until of course they lose then they arent a tag team anymore which is probably for the best seeing as how old they are, they dont need to be the face of a tag division because we all know its temporary. Then they could have Santino and Kozlov more often. They should also think about bringing up Primos brother from developmental. Primo has proven recently that he deserves his spot because of his good match with Sin Cara, why not have his brother come up. Its obvious that WWE isnt gonna push Primo so why not have him in a meaningful tag team? So right there you got at least:

Santino and Kozlov
Slater and Gabriel- should be a tag team outside of any stable
Big Show and Kane (temporarily)
Hawkins and Ryder- they already have documented history and are known to be like best friends in real life
Regal and Yoshi- similar to Regal and Tajiri. Regal and Yoshi have history of fighting each other so why not have them respect each other and tag team
The Usos-

Thats a good damn start, especially seeing as how they have been breaking up tag teams recently. Of course though what is most realistically likely to happen is:

Kozlov gets released
Slater and Gabriel break up
Big Show and Kane breaking up is inevitable because of the draft
Hawkins gets released, and possibly Ryder too
Regal retires
The Usos are the only tag team left

Oh well, I guess the tag division should just die lol
 
I've noticed that WWE hasn't booked a "personal" non-title tag team programe in quite some time. Pretty much the face tag team proving their dominance, and the heel tag team trying to prove the fraud in the face tag team. Examples are DX/Rated RKO, DX/Legacy, Kane and Big Show vs Batista and Rey Mysterio, John Morrison and The Miz vs Cryme Tyme. The problem is that WWE don't have any credible enough tag teams to make the feud feel significant. This only proves that the WWE's tag team division is far down the drain and has been since Jerishow lost the tag team titles. So if WWE's tag teams had the credibility they used too, would these type of feuds work again?
 
DX/Rated RKO was eventually over the tag titles, but in the match Triple H blew his other quad, and eventually HBK and Cena beat them for the titles.

I think it could work, but I honestly believe WWE doesn't want to bother to figure out a tag team feud and making legit tag teams. Maybe they feel like it's too much work, but I honestly don't know.

You also need the right guys to do it, and the guys you listed are real pros at it.

Mason Ryan/Ezekiel Jackson vs Big Show/Kane is looming I believe, so maybe that might turn out OK even though it's over the tag titles.
 
Well Kane and Big Show are completely hopeless as both are so boring! The only way to get a good tag team is to have tag teams like Miz/Morrison Jericho/Miz actually good partners. Mason Ryan and Zek sound awful, I have no interest in either of them.
 
I think they should bring back ( The World's Greatest Tag Team) Charlie Haas & Shelton Benjamin at least they had what it takes to be a good tag team and they where very entertaining in the ring. But in today's wrestling the stable's and tag team division doesn't last long like it use to. You had great tag team's a few years old Too Cool, Edge & Christian, Hardy Boyz, Legion of Doom, Dudley Boyz, Chris Benoit & Y2J, Power Trip etc. So as you see the WWE has gone down a different path they don't care about the Tag Team titles many more it's all about singles competition.
 
What they need to do is stop letting newly made tag teams that are randomly put together win the tag team titles so quickly. I think that is what has destroyed their credibility. It would be like letting 90% of every new superstar win a world title in a matter of weeks. It would destroy the prestige of being a world champion becuase evryone else in the business had done it.
 
With the influx of managers lately in the WWE perhaps we could see the return of tag team wrestling as well. They have a ton of talent on the roster and down in FCW that they could easily put 8 to 10 teams together. Back in the day they had about that many and not all were championship material ie the Bushwackers,Killer bees etc. They could have a few top teams and some mid card teams and some jobber teams. Just like the singles division.
Possible teams-
Khali,Mahl and Davari
Usos
Ryder and Hawkins
Percy and Young
The rotundas
Epico and Hunico
Or Primo and Tito
Titus and Tarver
Woods and Brisco
 
So, it seems WWE is somewhat trying to bring back the tag division. Currently we have:

The Usos (rarely used but still a tag I think)

Santino Marella and Vladimir Kozlov (been together long enough to be considered a real tag team)

Justin Gabriel and Heath Slater (as part of The Corre, if Corre splits they should stay a tag team)

David Otunga and Joe Hennig (as part of New Nexus, if Nexus splits Id rather they split so Hennig can get a push)

Big Show and Kane (seems like this team will be splitting soon)

Most recently, WWE has reformed Curt Hawkins and Zack Ryder (WWWYKI) and Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase, and it looks as if they will form The Great Khali and Jinder Mahal as a tag, so that's EIGHT actual tag teams, six if you dont count Corre and Nexus as tags but only stables.

Regardless, will WWE ACTUALLY start up a new tag division, with ACTUAL tag feuds and not just a tag vs a random team? Or is it just what theyve been doing ever since Paul London and Brian Kendrick split and have a half assed tag division that sucks? Heres hoping the tag division picks up again (Zack and Curt for tag champs WWWYKI).
 
Its good but not enough for me to invest a significant interest in the tag team division. I always like the non-title feuds between two different tag teams, usually a heel tag vs a face tag (eg Cryme Tyme vs JoMo and The Miz, Hardy Boyz vs MNM, DX vs Legacy, DX vs Rated RKO). Now there are enough teams on the roster that these types of feuds would work again.
 
There are certainly signs of promise in the division, but like AK2V8 says, it's too early to tell. Must say though, I am a big fan of Slater and Gabriel as a team. A face turn for those guys could go really well in my book.
 
im excited for tag team futures especially with the veterans winding down forming tag teams, lets examine the state
the usos will be lucky if they make it through the cleaning out of superstars
Santino Marella and Vladimir Kozlov when was the last time i saw them, oh a few months back, what have they done for the tag divison nothing but keep the titles warm for a few months
Justin Gabriel and Heath Slater very good team
David Otunga and Joe Hennig they will stay together and interchange teaming with mason ryan and punk
Big Show and Kane will not be splitting, if anything they will be used to get the lackluster nexus over as they have been for the last month, they will have the rest of the year feuding, thing is with 4 nexus members it allows different combinations and keeps interest
zac and kurt together was a way of wwe shutting up ryder fans , nothikng more dont look to mch into it

they have improved but still need some consistency and bigger names, i see rey forming a team in the near future and with khali and mahal we may have a mega heat team
i hate indians already
 
THERE IS A LOT OF POTENTIAL IN THE TAG TEAM THAT CURRENTLY WWE HAS . THEY HAVE TO USE IT WELL. SO MAY BE THEY CAN HAVE A GREATER SCOPE FOR TAG TEAM DIVSION NOW THAT PRICELESS IS REFORMED AND KHALI AND MAHAL HAVE BECOME TEAM PLUS THE MAJOR BROSKIS HAVE REUNITED WHY CANT THEY HAVE LIKE FATAL 4 WAY LADDER MATCH FOR TAG TITLES OR BRING BACK SOME OLD TYPES TAG TEAM MATCHES. IT WILL GIVE THE TAG TEAM DIVISION THE CREDIBILTY WHICH HAVE BEEN LACKING IN THEM RECENTLY
 
They need to actually have proper tag feuds... In the past few weeks we've had the new nexus take the tag titles pretty much out of the blue from Kane/Show, I want to see teams battle to become number 1 contender and then a huge build up to the championship match! Ideally I'd have :
Steel cage tag match to determine tag no.1 contender (I'd have slater/gabriel beat the uso's with gabriel doing a splash from the top of the cell) then they would start a whole corre vs nexus feud start up based around this match...Finally I would have the anonymous gm ring in and say whoever loses will mean there group will be disbanded...
On the PPV I'd make it a tag ladder match..with Nexus/corre band from ringside, then I'd have slater/gabriel win it, then decide that they don't wanna be a part of the corre anymore so nexus and corre sortof both die lol
 
i think like you said that WWE is trying to bring back the Tag Division but it's not enough for me i would have added 1 or 2 others tag-teams to have an actual and great Tag Division that can actually compete in some of the old Tag Teams matches
 
Steps toward saving the Division:

1. Stables - Stables usually create a good reliable tag team, The Corre has Slater & Gabriel, Nexus has McGillicutty and Harris/Otunga. I think creating a Legacy type stable headed by Cody Rhodes and consisting of DH Smith, Natalya, Richie Steamboat, and Ted & Brett Dibiase could be a step in the right direction. Steamboat and Smith would be a great team but if Ted wasn't almost a breakout star then he and Brett could form "The Million Dollar Sons".

2. TNA - Robert Roode is the BEST performer on that roster the problem is James Storm is not. Signing Beer Money would likely mean having to take Storm and I don't see that happening. However Roode has proved that he can carry a team and be a reliable performer. My advice sign Roode and pair him with a NXT rookie and then sign the Motor City Machine Guns, not only will these guys bolster the Tag division but they could also be counted on as viable opponents for Sin Cara, Rey, and any other smaller wrestler who wrestles a specific style.

3. Pair Evan Bourne up with either Sin Cara or Daniel Bryan. Its pretty apparent that WWE sees Bourne as more a of an attraction than championship material possibly due to the size. If WWE wants an exciting "Hardy Boyz"-like team than Sin Cara is the choice, the only problem is that WWE might want Sin Cara to be the new Rey Mysterio and be a superstar. Bryan would be another logical choice as it gives them two reliable performers, and fills a void for Bryan.

4. Re-sign MVP. pertaining to point 1. Stables...pairing a returning MVP with a red hot R-Truth, Mark Henry, and JTG in a Nation-like stable would be smart it would also give JTG a reliable partner to team with.

5. Take advantage of NXT and Tough Enough. Signing the winner and runner(s)-up of TE would create an immediate tag team but not one that can be left together for very long. NXT is a breeding ground of talented and hungry performers signing guys a few of the more talented guys (Cannon & Saxton?) is a great way to build some new teams.

If those steps were followed this is what the division would look like:

Kane & Big Show
The Corre - Slater & Gabriel
Nexus - McGillicutty & Otunga
The Million Dollar Sons - The DiBiase's
Roode Inc. (Roode and partner)
Motor City Machine Guns
The New Killer B's - Bourne and Bryan
Pryme Tyme - MVP and JTG
Riggs and Robinson (TE) w/ Rima as manager?
Big Leaguers - Saxton and Cannon (NXT)

Also throw in the team of Zach Ryder and Darren Young.
 
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