The Tag Division Thread: Thoughts, Ideas, & Complaints

[berlinbrawler]

But they were tag teams for more reasons than "merely being groomed for singles careers." They were legit tag teams that were there to draw money.

Edit: Except maybe the Bushwackers. I have no idea why they were there.

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Your opinion, not reality. Just becuase they were successfull and drew money doesnt change what tag team wrestling is inherently intended to be for, except in very rare occurances.

Shit yea the Bushwhackers drew money, were over huge in the early 1990s

 

[GW_Hart86]

Tag teams nowadays really need to stay together for a lot longer and conquor a bit more. Fair enough if its a really lame team like koslov and marella, but teams like debiase and rhodes, the new hart foundation etc should've stayed as a team for much longer.

I wouldn't like to see any of the teams in the poll re-unite because I think the likes of edge/christian, the hardys and even now the dudleyz have gone on to split up and make successful solo careers.....those tag teams days have passed and should remain in the past!

The WWE in my opinion should really look to pushing current tag teams like the uso's and the core and trying to sign up teams like beer money and motor city machine guns. Those guys are some awesome tag teams. That's four teams mentioned there, more than enough to mix up the tag divison for a while and get it back on track!

 

[achromat666]

As mentioned already, Vince would have to care about the tag titles for any of this to be relevant.

The tag division has been devalued and largely defunct for the better part of the past decade, the early part of which saw the Dudley Boys/Hardy Boyz/E&C teams revitalize it and hold it together for a good while. since then has been the slow inexorable march towards its current state where it is the only belt that has no counterpart on a rival brand. Because Vince doesn't care about it, or care to develop it.

Sorry about the rant, it just pisses me off.

Anyway The World's greatest Tag Team along with the likes of the Uso's and The Hart Dynasty would be a great shot in the arm if a tag division were to ever actually come back.

 

[Cenation716]

Due to the fact that the WWE Creative team can't form a good, worthy tag team since the early 2000's, I figured I'd start this post. The question is this, if you were in control of the tag team division, who would you make into tag teams, what storylines would you make for them & any championship title reigns?

Myself, I'd make a few teams but number one is John Cena & Randy Orton. They are both faces now (well, we don't know about Cena completely, he could be entering heel status at WrestleMania after that RAW ending.) & every time that they've teamed together they've had good chemistry. I went to a few WWE shows this year & after RAW went off the air, they had Orton/Cena vs. Punk/Miz. I'd have them challenge the team of Edge & Christian, who are the current WWE Tag Team Champions, but have them come up unsuccessful the first time. I'd then have them earn a title shot by defeating the teams of The Hart Dynasty (yes, I'd have them reform) the first week, Big Show & Kane the second week & finally defeating the team of Rey Mysterio & Evan Bourne on SmackDown the third week. Then, 2 weeks before their title shot at Survivor Series (or whatever it'll be named), they run down & attack E&C as theyre making their way down the ramp for a non-title shot against Sheamus & Drew McIntyre, thus turning Orton & Cena heel. At SS, they defeat E&C for the titles & retain against them in a TLC match at TLC, shocking the WWE Universe (considering the TLC match is E&C's environment). I don't know where I go after this, but you get the idea.

 

[berlinbrawler]

Can the tag titles be saved?

Charlie Haas & Rico, Rene Dupre & Kenzo Suzuki, Deuce & Domino (!), Men on a Mission, The 123 Kid & Marty Jannetty, The Headbangers, The Bodydonnas, The Godwins, Hardcore and Crash Holly, Too Cool, Spike Dudley & Tazz, Rico & Rikishi, Chief Morley & Lance Storm, Eugene & William Regal, The Spirit Squad, Lance Cade & Trevor Murdoch, Santino & Kozlov.

All former champions. I can only conclude that pretty much anyone in any combination can win those belts. It doesn't get more meaningless than that.

 

[go_patriots11]

Well I had this thought. I'm not sure if it's ever been done, or If it's even a good idea but tell me what you think. basically a royal rumble but the last 2 men in the ring become tag champions, or get written into a storyline where they are number one contenders. I think it would be a great way to showcase new up and coming tag teams seeing as how WWE has few to none at the moment!
Let me know what you think!

 

[Mac Attack]

I haven't seen this thread before but I truly think there are several things the WWE could do in order to improve their tag division.

Firstly I would make sure that the tag championship is prestigous. The way to add prestige would be simply to have strong tag champions. I would make teams like the former Miz-Show, Jeri Show combinations. You could then make up and coming superstars become tag team Main eventers. So basically this would make the tag division more of its own entity which then allows newer guys to get a push over established wrestlers and you could have lesser superstars becing Main eventers of their own division. Once this is accomplished you could get rid of the original established stars that you placed in the tag division because by this time the newer stars are the Main eventers. I think if there is a clear seperation between singles and tag divisions then it would greatly beneift the tag division. Also with more prestige to the titles it also helps enhance the ability to sell tag team matches to the the WWE Universe. With this happening you could easily have the tag division fixed within the next 6 months.

 

[xcoN]

Vince has already said before that he doesn't really like tag teams anymore which is why their is no more tag division. Its weird since he brings in tag teams knowing that they don't stand a chance and then breaks them up over time only for one or both to get released. I don't see any team or the WWE period saving the tag division. With this being said I hope the Briscoe Brothers don't come to the WWE because they won't make it.

 

[#SAWFT]

I chose Edge and Christian because they're both strong faces ATM, put them against The Hart Dynasty and build up a feud.

 

[hollowpoint]

I think I picked Cryme Time, but for no legit reason. I don't think any of the former Tag Teams can really save the tag team division. Most of the ones on this list are either established as singles wrestlers now, well past their prime, or about to be released. I can come up with a couple of solutions to fix the division if the WWE decides they want to rebuild it. First one: I say have a Tag Team tournament where the winner would face the tag champs. Put about 8 teams in and have them battle it out. I wouldn't go so far as bringing in Beer Money or MCM, but they need some actual Tag Teams and not some thrown together teams just to win the belts. Bringing the Worlds Greatest Tag Team back is an option, but they must stay a team in order for it to work.

Second option: Have a four way Tornado Tag Match for the titles. Put Big Show and Kane together and have the corre in there. Mix in the Usos and Kozlov and Santino and have them duke it out. I know it doesnt necessarily add prestige to it, but it does give us an opportunity to watch a form of tag team wrestling. Just my thoughts.

 

[berlinbrawler]

Things that might help

The only time in recent years when the tag belts meant anyhting was when Jerishow had the belts. What was different about them was that they were not two new unknown guys, but established upper level veterans both. Secondly, they weren't introduced as Jericho AND Big Show, but their team actually had a name and a common music (even though both wee just a hybrid).

So here's one to try: VETERANS instead of rookies, a TEAM NAME, a TEAM MUSIC, and MATCHING OUTFITS. And how about letting them be a team for MORE THAN A WEEK before they win the titles? And last, but not least, let them be a team FOR MORE THAN 2 MONTHS in total.
Most of these points seem fairly obvious, but it's surprising how often none of them apply to a team that just won the belts.

 

[tripleddd]

For starters there needs to be at least 8 full time tag teams and scatter iit in with a few veterans from time to time - and as i can remember did we not used to have tag team turmoil in ppvs

 

[Toroc102]

Uh, the only thing that will save the Tag-Division is Vince. Bring the Dudley's/Hardy's/E&C/LOD/Steiners w/e back it won't matter if he doesn't care. Both Nexus' were full of guys that could've made careers off of being Tag guys if they we're born 15 years earlier. Vince doesn't like Tag-Teams, there will be no Tag Division.

 

[Thorodrew Atlas]

Edge&Christian get my vote but Edge is desperately needed in the World Title Picture right now. I think to be honest Kane and the Big Show if they have an unstoppable storyline where they dont lose the titles for close to a year (by that time someone else comes into the world title picture) E&C can make the tag division worth watching.

 

[Ayatollah of Rock n Rolla]

As everyone else has already said, the only person who can 'save' the tag team division is Vince McMahon. He's only interested in singles stars, which is pretty sad considering the history of this division on the WWF/E.

That being said, simply gaining 1 or 2 teams won't do anything, because as everyone else has rightly said, there is nothing currently in the WWE that would interest them. There is nobody to feud with, and like every other talented team in history, they'd end up being broken apart.

I'm under no illusion that it will ever happen, but here's what I'd like to see.

+ Vince McMahon realising the TagTeam division is as important as the singles division.
+ Vince McMahon pumping many more millions of investment in reforming and rebuilding the TagTeam division by signing the following:

The Briscoes --- Jay & Mark Briscoe.
American Warewolves --- Eddie Edwards & Davey Richards.
Kings of Wrestling --- Chris Hero & Claudio Castagnoli.
Motor City Machine Guns --- Alex Shelley & Chris Sabin.
Beer Money --- James Storm & Robert Roode.
The Worlds Greatest TagTeam --- Shelton Benjamin & Charlie Haas.

Add those to the teams from the current WWE roster.

The Usos --- Jay & Jimmy Uso.
The Hart Dynasty --- David Hart Smith & Tyson Kidd.
Legacy --- Cody Rhodes & Ted DiBiase.
Nexus --- Husky Harris & Michael Mcgillycutty.
The Corre --- Justin Gabriel & Heath Slater.

There. My wish. 11 Tagteams that would save the tagteam division, (if Vince wanted to save it)

 

[poppycock]

It's no secret the current WWE Tag Team division is in no fit state. How would you rescue this situation? Do you see solo wrestlers who potentially could work well together if given time and a good gimmick? Do you even care about Tag Teams and Tag Team wrestling?

I think we lack Teams who look and work together as a "Team" and mould themselves into almost one person..well oiled machines with matching outfits and good gimmicks rather than random odds and sods chucked together. Obviously the later can and does work on occasion but I really miss teams like LOD, The Dudleys, Hardyz, Edge and Christian.. similar looks/attire.good gimmicks and good understandings between the two wrestlers.

I would like to see:

Ezekiel Jackson and Mason Ryan.. possibly at first fueding with Big Show and Kane just to get over. Give them a manager who is great on the mic (as I said in previous posts Micheal Cole would be good if they are going to be heels) They are both big men..put them in similar attire and they could be amazing.

Mcyntire and Sheamus? Celtic Warriors.. Drew really needs something right now and Sheamus can keep his US Title still. They don't need to win the Tag Titles themselves just yet..just build up something between the two and see how they develop. They have the Celtic gimmick on a plate for them to use.

Ted Dibiase and ??? He needs something just as much as Drew does (I cant see them in a team together really) Maybe he could get together with Husky Harris as a tribute to Money Inc but with a different gimmick. Perhaps he could go against the whole wealth thing and team with sombody to form an anti money tag team (could lead to a fued with Del Rio somewhere down the line)

anyway I have other ideas I will put down what about you?

 

[berlinbrawler]

Some good suggestions there. Don't know who would fit with Dibiase or if tag teaming would be the ring thing for him, but I like the other two.

Thing is tag teaming is a bit of a dead art. The titles are worthless and get treated accordingly. The last life signs that came from the tag titles was when Jerishow held them.

I would like to see the tag scene revived just as you said, with actual teams, two guys that have something in common, are together longer than just a few months, have a team name and matching outfits and a team finisher and all that, rather than two singles wrestlers haphazardly thrown together. (And you need more than 2 actual teams!!!)

If Sheamus and Drew Mcyntire were to form a team, they would probably be called "Sheamus & Drew Mcyintire", would come out in the same outfits they were wearing as singles wrestlers, and their finishers would again be their respective singles finishers. And then Vince would wonder why no one is buying into them and conclude that simply no one cares about tag teaming anymore.

 

[KidIncredible]

I think the major problem is that they need all of these teams to come together all at once.

There's nothing really wrong with the Usos as a tag team. Santino and Koslov were a great pairing for a tag team. But when those are the only two viable "we only tag" groups out there? You're basically swapping the belts between them, or possibly to some random pairing that's just going to break up and lose the belts in a week.

The prime of tag teams recently was probably Dudleyz, E&C and Hardys, but even though it usually came back to those three, they would wrestle other tag teams on the PPVs between TLC matches (New Age Outlaws, Too Cool, Taker/Kane, APA, Crash/Hardcore).

If they can get 5-8 legitimate tag teams (one of which can be two of Nexus or two of Corre), they can start better storylines of teams going for the gold.

 

[Savior with faith 101]

There are plenty of fantastic tag teams on the Independant Circuit if WWE are genuinely serious about investing in their tag team division. You can look at ROH with Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin (WGTT), Kings Of Wrestling and others, but there are also plenty of teams with potential within WWE.

Zack and Primo - Might aswell give them a shot, they seem to have some charisma together, are decent workers and could bring some comedy to the tag division too.

Gabriel and Slater - Current champions, but havnt really shown us too much as theyve been overshadowed. Break away from The Corre and they have potential to shine.

Ted and Brett Dibiase - When Brett gets called up id like to see them do something where Brett comes to help his ailing brother out of a losing streak, face turn would really fit the storyline and give Ted something thats missing

Miz and Riley - We could finally see Riley work matches more often and Miz could talk about how he wants to dominate all of WWE. Riley could even take the US Title to really push them as a pair.

 

[hbkmark]

I know it sounds petty but I do want to say one thing about this site. Since wrestling is all about feuds please learn how to spell it F-E-U-D. I know it makes me sound dweeby to worry about it but it just bugs me.

 

[Iversen]

It needs to be a long term thing. These teams need to have a reason to get together and not just like Sheamus and Mcintyre because ones from Ireland and ones from Scotland. We're not that close to the Irish that if we meet an Irishman we automatically are friends.

These teams need to become legitimate. Start with the building of a friendship or respect of some kind. One helping the other in a match etc etc. I'm sure the WWE know how to do it they have in the past. Teams I think could work though.


Ted Dibiase and Brett Dibiase - It's the obvious one. You don't need to do any build up there brothers of course they'd team. Even if Brett isn't ready that can be hidden quite well in tag matches so give him a shot. Ted needs something.

Truth and Mark Henry - It's stereotypical as fuck but you can pull out the whole being held back thing. If the WWE don't want to mention that its because they're black they don't even have to do that. Mark doesn't do much at the moment unless you count APPLE which I don't really and he's still respected enough to be a threat, he'd need to be turned heel obviously. Truth as much as he looks like he's in for a push I just don't buy as a main eventer. I didn't see him in TNA though to be fair so I could be proved wrong. Tag team guy I can see.

Chavo and (could be any of the underused young guys) Trent Baretta - Chavo has enough experience and years in the buisness that he could be seen to be taking this guy under his wing and helping him out. Gives Chavo a serious role, which he deserves after having the piss taken out of him and never complaining even, if I remember rightly, once telling people to stop complaining about it. While at the same time Baretta or whoever gets his shot to impress.

Don't split the Usos. Just felt the need to add that.

I'd put the Hart Dynasty back together as well. Keep Slater and Gabriel as a team after the inevitable split of the Corre. Likewise with Nexus I'd have Ryan team up with Mcgidorhgutty (yea I don't know how to spell it) or Otunga. Either one really after their split.

None of them I'd call great teams but it gives you a basis and if you give them time every week it starts the ball rolling. You can then move to invite other tag teams to join the WWE and hopefully they'll be more receptive seeing an actual functioning real division.

 

[PaulD]

I think a major problem with the tag team division is that to make it interesting you need teams that you believe want to be successful as a tag team rather than two individuals competing together. It's no use putting Sheamus and Drew McIntyre together simply on the basis of them being great single competitors, because we all know they want world championship as single wrestlers. I think right now the way to improve the state of tag team wrestling in WWE is to bring in more wrestlers as tag teams with a shared gimmick, guys who have been tagging together for some time in FCW or in the indy circuit.

 

[Constipated Badger Bottom]

Kane & Big Show - The WWE probably won't have much planned for these guys as single competitors so a dominant tag team is a good way to go for these guys

The Uso's
Slater & Gabriel - Keep These 3 Teams together for the sake of the Tag Division
Zack & Primo

Mcgillicutty & Otunga - there in the Nexus so may aswell have these tag team together

Ted & Brett Dibiase - Nothing needs to be said, I think the WWE could BGrett on the NXT with Ted as his pro and they later become a formiddible tag team

DH Smith & Tyson Kidd - Reunite these 2 becase they are going nowhere as single's competitors

Daniel Bryan & William Regal - Regal use to mentor Bryan back in the day and I maybe Regal could help Bryan develop more of a tough guy perosnaillity to help him out more in the WWE

Not a fantastic division if all these were active but it's better than what they have now and will be a stepping stone for the future of the tag team division

Also I think they need to change the way Tag Team matches are done the format always has been: Face team starts well - Heel Team then dominates - Face Team get's hot tag - End Of Match, I think if they just did things differntly and maybe have more Tornado Tag matches then it could spur up more intrest in the Tag Division

 

[poppycock]

I would like to see the Hart Dynasty reform also. I don't know how I feel about the current champs..they have not won me over just yet but if the stable breaks up and they carry on as a unit and develop then maybe I will have a change of heart.

I know it sounds petty but I do want to say one thing about this site. Since wrestling is all about feuds please learn how to spell it F-E-U-D. I know it makes me sound dweeby to worry about it but it just bugs me.

Yeah, you sound really petty especially seeing as that is all you contributed to the thread. This is a place where wrestling fans come to type about wrestling not an English exam.. who cares aslong as what is put down is understandable.. if being high and mighty makes you happy then whatever..good luck and carry on I personally will not be changing (I am not the best speller in the world but I hopefully make enough sense).