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[Davi323]

However, if they were 11-2 (with a loss in the Big 10 title game) I still wouldn't have put it past the BCS to take Michigan over them, despite MSU being the better team. Why? Money. These games, other then the national championship, are about money. UM's one of the 5 biggest 'name' schools in the nation (along with USC, Texas, Notre Dame, and probably Alabama). While MSU is a Big 10 school and has their fair share of followers, them bowl guys want the big name. Do I think they picked all of the right teams? Hell no. VT was just as undeserving as any, yet went in over Boise and KSU because they're more of a 'name' school.

However, if the situation was flipped (as in UM lost in the title game and MSU got the BCS bid) I don't think you'd be singing the same tune. I realize we had our shot in Indy and put on a hell of a show, but winning was our only shot. I don't agree with it, since it's rewarding teams for finishing good but not 'good enough' (as in winning the division), but the BCS was never fair.

If Michigan State had gotten passed over with an 11-2 record, regardless of who the losses were to, then I think MSU fans would have a valid complaint. If 10-2 is better in the BCS rankings than 10-3, so must 11-2 be better than 10-2, especially since MSU beat Michigan head to head. If that happened, you would room to bitch, and I wouldn't have much to say, since I would know you were right. This wasn't a simple "I hate MSU, bash on them" post.

It would still come down to BCS standings, but I have a hard time believing that an 11-2 MSU team that beat Michigan wouldn't be higher than Michigan in the final BCS standings. However, if that did happen, then wouldn't your real beef be with all of the voters in the USA Today Coaches polls and the computers for not ranking you higher? (remember, AP poll is not part of the BCS calculations)

Notice I haven't made a single comment about Michigan's opponent? I don't think Virginia Tech deserves to be there either...I would have preferred either Kansas State or Boise State over Virginia Tech too.

Look. This is life in a conference with a title game. It's something us Big Ten fans are going to have to get accustomed to. These kinds of situations have happened in other conferences for years. Same thing could happen to Michigan next year. Who knows?

The BCS requires at-large bids to be in the top 14 in BCS standings. MSU's loss to Wisconsin put them below that threshold, because conference title games are counted, while the losses of other teams in other conference title games elevated Michigan over that threshold for the same reason. That's life in the BCS. Michigan got in based on the rules the BCS selection process must follow, and MSU lost out based on the rules the BCS selection process must follow. It is what it is.

 

[Megatron]

I completely agree with you. I don't like that UM is going to a better bowl, but I understand why. Had Lewis not run into the kicker, we might not even be having this conversation.

But, with that being said, we need to take care of Georgia and show we can hang with other top NC teams. UGA is a tight matchup and about as fair of one as they could've drawn. They gotta show they can beat an SEC with Dantonio. They're 0-2 under him with one of them being an awful loss. A win over UGA will get a bit of respect nationally, and I do think that Kirk and the rest of the seniors will wanna end their great run with a win to help push the program forward.

 

[Davi323]

I completely agree with you. I don't like that UM is going to a better bowl, but I understand why. Had Lewis not run into the kicker, we might not even be having this conversation.

But, with that being said, we need to take care of Georgia and show we can hang with other top NC teams. UGA is a tight matchup and about as fair of one as they could've drawn. They gotta show they can beat an SEC with Dantonio. They're 0-2 under him with one of them being an awful loss. A win over UGA will get a bit of respect nationally, and I do think that Kirk and the rest of the seniors will wanna end their great run with a win to help push the program forward.

Absolutely...and Michigan needs to take care of VaTech. It's no longer about Michigan vs. MSU. It's about the Big Ten vs everyone else. (other than Ohio State, I can't root for the Buckeyes, no matter what is at stake).

Every year we get more and more reasons to hate the BCS, this year is no exception.

 

[Big Sexy]

Heisman Trophy thread up

 

[Harthan]

Any spammy reactions to Marlins deal with Reyes? No one seems to want to bite in yonder non spam sections. I think they overpaid, personally, but he should work out really well for them. I was advocating going over Fielder/Pujols but I'm more in favor of fixing the hole in the rotation and calling it a day on big names.

 

[Megatron]

Slightly overpaid. But Reyes will give them some more publicity that they need. They'll actually have some games on ESPN as well for once. I don't think I remember them last hosting a game. Plus if he gives them 130 games he'll be well worth the payment.

 

[Stormtrooper]

Reyes was way overpaid, and they will regret the deal in 2015. Reyes is a speed guy, and they gave him a 6 year deal (5 with an option I think). By the latter end of the deal, he will likely start to lose a bit of said speed, which will make his triples doubles, doubles singles; and infield singles outs. Couple that with his lack of baseball IQ, his not very good eye, and he'll end up being a .270 hitter with a .300 OBP at the end.

However, getting him was HUGE for the Miami Marlins. Now that they have one FA they can get another.

 

[smofsjoug]

Hello.Nice forum . My 1st time on forums.wrestlezone.com!!!!!.Looks like a pleasent group here.

 

[Davi323]

Wait, the Marlins are actually SPENDING money? What the fuck has the world come to? They only team as cheap as the Marlins when it comes to paying players are the Royals...normally they trade away talented players, not sign them. Next thing you know, Jim Leyland wil be winning Mr. Congeniality contests...

 

[Harthan]

Wait, the Marlins are actually SPENDING money? What the fuck has the world come to? They only team as cheap as the Marlins when it comes to paying players are the Royals...normally they trade away talented players, not sign them. Next thing you know, Jim Leyland wil be winning Mr. Congeniality contests...

Incredible, I know. The new stadium deal has got them all kinds of excited. I wonder if they'll sustain the hype.

 

[Stormtrooper]

They are spending money finally because they have a stadium that will actually bring in money, and couple new stadium with big-time free agent acquisition and they may be able to revitalize the fan-base.

 

[CH David]

They are spending money finally because they have a stadium that will actually bring in money, and couple new stadium with big-time free agent acquisition and they may be able to revitalize the fan-base.

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A true fan-base in Florida for anything other than football is non-existent.

 

[Big Sexy]

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A true fan-base in Florida for anything other than football is non-existent.

Even the NFL teams in Florida have shit attendance. College Sports and the NBA are what draws big attendance right now in Florida and the NBA is only hot right now because Miami and Orlando have great teams led by big name superstars.

 

[The Bearded One]

Even the NFL teams in Florida have shit attendance. College Sports and the NBA are what draws big attendance right now in Florida and the NBA is only hot right now because Miami and Orlando have great teams led by big name superstars.

Exactly. Unless you're the Heat or the Magic, you're having a difficult time getting people to your games. Especially if you're the Bucs or the Dolphins.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Big East has officially added Boise State and San Diego State for football only.

I guess Hawaii wasn't available.

 

[Davi323]

Big East has officially added Boise State and San Diego State for football only.

I guess Hawaii wasn't available.

Does this mean they are going to create a Western division to the Big East, or are Boise and San Diego State going to travel to the east coast every away game? That would suck donkey balls.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I don't know. They added Houston, UCF, and SMU for all sports as well.

So I assume the Big East will be Boise, SD State, Houston, UCF, SMU, Cincy, UConn, Rutgers, Louisville, and South Florida.

I hear they're looking for a 12-team conference so I would imagine they would go after a western and eastern team if they are looking to do what you are asking in terms of creating a western division which would be more feasible. If not, it would suck. Imagine going from Idaho to Connecticut.

 

[Megatron]

They'd probably want two more western teams. Keep Louisville, USF, UCF, UConn, Rutgers, and Cincy on one side then the Texas Teams, SDSU, Boise, and other two west teams on that side. Nevada and Fresno St. could be decent options, since there isn't a whole lot more quality programs out there.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I don't know why I was thinking another eastern team. I got tripped up by UCF. For some reason, even though Boise State is going to the Big East , I don't think it gets them closer to a shot at the BCS title since the Big East has always been mediocre to begin with.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

The Big East will most likely get Navy as well after a few "loose ends" are tied up.

 

[Davi323]

I wonder how long it will take for Boise State to completely own the Big East? 1 year to get to know each of their opponents, and then by year 2, total domination?

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

I wouldn't be surprised if they dominate their first year since they have more places to recruit now.

 

[Shocky]

Everything I'm reading on the Big East

East: UC, UL, USF, UConn, Rutgers
West: SDSU, UH, SMU, Boise

Navy and Air Force are likely to join, which would put Air Force in the West. I keep reading that Navy or UCF are likely to be the teams to go out west. It makes sense for Navy to stay in the East, but they want to play Air Force and SDSU (huge Naval base). Obviously going for a conference championship game.

and no, Boise will not win every year, they'll get bitchslapped by the Bearcats at the Nip.

 

[Brahma_Bull9]

Why the hell is she sitting so close to him? It's uncomfortable to watch it makes no sense.

 

[TSG]

Yeah, Boise's conference now.