The Oscars

[OIL]

Well, perhaps a nomination. But it's a bit unfair that Fiennes didn't get a nod. I'd have preferred to see Fiennes in there, but I could take removing Downey Jr. or Josh Brolin instead of Ledger.

He'll win the award though, I'm quite certain of it.

He did give a good performance, and usually they do miss out a few good ones who should be in there.

Well he should, he deserves it. Probably was hyped too much because of his death, but he really does deserve all the awards.

 

[Tastycles]

I think it's interesting that in 6 months The Dark Knight has gone from being "the greatest film of all time" to not even being nominated. To be honest, I did think Ledger was quite good and certainly worthy of a nomination, and I thought the film was good,but it wasn't the best film I saw last year, let alone of all time. I think people just got caught up in the hype.

 

[CCS]

I think it's interesting that in 6 months The Dark Knight has gone from being "the greatest film of all time" to not even being nominated. To be honest, I did think Ledger was quite good and certainly worthy of a nomination, and I thought the film was good,but it wasn't the best film I saw last year, let alone of all time. I think people just got caught up in the hype.

I think after a lot of people seen The Dark Knight for a second time they didnt like it as good as the first time. I know that was the case for me. When I seen it in the theatre it was phenomenal, it was awesome, I'd never seen anything so great. But after I watched it again on dvd it was just kind of meh. The only thing that still stood out was Heath Ledgers spectacular performance as the Joker. I could watch that movie multiple times just for his great performance.

 

[klunderbunker]

It's a good movie, maybe even great, but I believe I said it at the peak of its hype: if it holds up 5-10 years from now it'll be a classic. It's holding up somewhat, but after 6 months it's been hit this hard. What'll it be next year?

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

Best Picture will either go to Slumdog Millionaire or The Curious Case of Benjamin Button. AMPAS doesn't like giving Oscars to non-Americans if they can help it, and Slumdog Millionaire isn't leaps and bounds better than any of its competition, so The Curious Case of Benjamin Button is the film to beat.

Best Director will either go to Danny Boyle or David Fincher. I'm going to go with Fincher, as AMPAS probably feels guilty for snubbing him last year for Zodiac.

Best Actor will either go to Mickey Rourke or Frank Langella. Both are long overdue for recognition, and one of them is going to get it this year. Given Obamania, I am pretty sure the overly liberal AMPAS will want to symbolically stick it to America's conservatives, so Langella will be the man to beat.

Best Actress will probably go to Kate Winslet. The only other one I could see winning this is Melissa Leo, but I think her nomination is similar to Terrence Howard's in Hustle & Flow and Edward Norton's in American History X, in that AMPAS has to nominate her for how awesome her performance was even though hardly anyone saw it. At this point in time, Meryl Streep is just racking up nominations.

Best Supporting Actor will probably go to Josh Brolin for Milk, with Ledger and Hoffman as the dark horses.

Best Supporting Actress will probably go to Amy Adams...I can't think of much other competition at this point.

 

[Eternal Dragon]

Kate Winslet will win Best Supporting Actress.

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Dragon

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

Kate Winslet will win Best Supporting Actress.

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Dragon

She wasn't nominated in that category.

 

[Eternal Dragon]

She wasn't nominated in that category.

Oh...well then I got lied to LMAO. She got nominated for Best Actress then? She'll win that.

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Dragon

 

[Papa Shango]

It's now kewl to dis on the Dark Knight. Everyone was wanting Ledger to be nominated, now that he has, they don't want him to win.

Again i say, if Ledger shouldn't win, who should win. Everyone's too busy saying not Ledger to not give an answer.

I'll weigh in on this.

Alive or dead, I believe that Heath Ledger deserves the Academy Award, and this is coming from someone who is mostly unimpressed by the rest of Heath Ledger's resume.

Heath would have been the favorite going in even if he was alive, however I do admit that he seems more of a lock due to his passing.

HOWEVER, there are a lot of indicators that make it not only possible, but plausible, for Robert Downey Jr. to win the Academy Award for Tropic Thunder.

1) The Academy LOVES comebacks- Robert Downey Jr. has been a promising talent since the 1980's. Everyone was rooting for him to overcome his addictions. But NOONE expected him to have his career revitalized in this way. (Except me, but that's because I was the only one who insisted that Iron Man was gonna be good). Between Iron Man and Tropic Thunder, he has catapaulted to the top of the A-list. People would love to help him cap off his comeback with an Oscar. This is also why fellow ex-fuck up Mickey Rourke has become a favorite for the Lead Actor trophy. Ironically, however, Rourke's comeback trophy bid may be thwarted by this next rule of thumb...

2) The Academy LOVES surprise upsets- This is one of the main reasons Rourke's and Ledger's wins are not locks. It's my honest opinion that, as good as Rourke was in The Wrestler, The Academy has only allowed Rourke to become a favorite for the trophy so that Brad Pitt's first win will be more "monumental". OR they may go with their golden boy Sean Penn. Actually, the Best Actor race is still relatively open. It sounds funny, but I'd more sure of a Rourke win if he was getting less buzz.

And if there's one category The Academy has shown to love giving the suprise to, it's the Supporting Actor and Actress categories. I could go on with a long list of examples, but I'll just go with the most recent. Two year's ago, Eddie Murphy was the favorite to win Best Supporting Actor (Dreamgirls). And with Jennifer Hudson being a near-lock for Supporting Actress for the same film, people thought Dreamgirls would for sure take home both supporting trophies. But I knew better and I said "Nay". And I was right. They gave it to Alan Arkin (Little Miss Sunshine). Although I was wrong about that, I thought it was gonna go to Mark Wahlberg (The Departed) for THIS reason:

3) The Academy is always looking to reward itself- As pretentious as they want to seem to be, The Academy is made up of all the Hollywood elite who get paid tens of millions of dollars to make garbage like Leatherheads and Australia. Had those movies succeeded, I guarantee you'd probably see them with nominations. However, they did not. But Tropic Thunder did. A big-budget Hollywood flick that satirizes itself. Heath Ledger was popular, but he was not a Hollywood elitist. In fact that's probably why he got edged out in 2006 by Phillip Seymour Hoffman, who's known to only hang around other "reknowned actors". Now I know what you're thinking "Well then why didn't TDK get Best Picture and Director nods?" Because even though it was the biggest film of the year, it was NOT made by the Hollywood elite, but rather by those who prefer to stay OUT of the spectacle (Writer and director Chris Nolan, the notoriously private Gary Oldman, and Christian Bale, who seems to be willing and ready to drop the guise and embrace his celebrity status). The Academy loves the irony in giving Downey his first trophy for portraying a man who already has five.

4) The Academy wouldn't want to condone drug use- If Heath Ledger had died pulling an old woman out of a fire, this would be a non-issue. But instead, he OD'ed on sleeping pills. Sure he had a prescription, but he wasn't following the right dosages. This looks bad, and the Academy might not want to appear to condone self-medicating. Robert Downey however, kicked drug addiction, and that's something Hollywood would love to give a gold star to.

5) They gave the same exact trophy to a psychopath last year- Javier Bardem won Best Supporting Actor last year for playing Anton Chigurgh in No Country for Old Men. The Academy rarely rewards similar roles in back-to-back years. After being criticized for being the "Dark Oscars" last year, the Academy might be looking to go in the complete opposite this year, giving the trophies to more light hearted or inspirational films, yet ANOTHER reason Downey may get the trophy.

 

[Papa Shango]

Oh...well then I got lied to LMAO. She got nominated for Best Actress then? She'll win that.

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Dragon

They're funny like that. Winslet won two Golden Globes, Best Actress for "Revolutionary Road" and Best Supporting Actress for "The Reader". Despite "Revolutionary Road" being the more favored film before hand, not only did the Academy give most of the nominations to "The Reader", but they bumped Kate Winslet up into Best Actress category.

 

[My$terio_Fan]

I am a huge oscar buff so I was excited for the nominations.
On a oscar board I post on they are going up in arms with TDK being snubbed aswell as Nowlan being snubbed for director but I didn't mind the "snub". Other stars who were "snubbed" include Leonardo DiCaprio & Kate Winslet for Revolutionary Road, Sally Hawkins for Happy-Go-Lucky, and another hugely unexcpected snub Bruce Springsteen for the Wrestler.

I'll admit that I thought it would get in(never predicted The Reader which bombed at the boxoffice and received mediocre reviews)but it just didn't get the support from the voters. I think this is Slumdog Millionaire's to lose, with Benjamin Button and Milk being possible but unlikely spoilers.

Will win: Slumdog
Should Win: Buttons

Best Actor was pretty predictable except for Richard Jenkins who I never predicted. I think it's between Rourke and Penn, with Pitt and Langella a distant third and fourth. Rourke got the golden globe and this is a comeback performance, but Sean is also a critically acclaimed former winner so it's close.

Will Win: Rourke
Should WIn: Pitt

Best Actress is probably a"lock" as of right now. This is Winslet's to lose, and since this is her 6th nom I think the academy will give it to her. I'm glad she got nominated for this over Revolutionary Road or she wouldn't have won. Meryl Streep and Anne Hatheway are her only competition but if Streep wins the SAG this weekend then Hatheway is out of the running. Although I love Jolie she doesn't have a chance, and Leo is lucky she got the nomination(over critics darling Sally Hawkins).

Will Win: Winslet
Should Win: Jolie/Hatheway

Supporting Actress is probably is the most unpredictable category since there is no clear front runner. As of now I think Penelope is the favorite for her critical acclaimed role. Amy Adams & Viola Davis both have shots for doubt, and don't count out for winner Marisa Tomei for "The Wrestler". Taraji P. Henson is probably the least likely to win, and her nomination is her prize but you never know.

Best Supporting Actor:
Ledger probably is a 95% lock for the award. I have no problem awarding him since it is an amazing performance and probably the best, but if he didn't die you have to wonder if he would have been the frontrunner(since it is gimmicky and from a superhero movie)but if he win's he deserves it.

Hoffman is nominated for a lead role so I don't think he has a chance. RDJ got a nomination but he has no chance of a win. Shannon & Brolin are the only 2 who can upset Ledger, but Shannon is from a mediocre film(RR)and Brolin hasn't received the attention and critics awards, so this is Ledger's to lose.

Will win: Ledger
Should win: Ledger/Brolin

Also I hope MIA can win for original song, but this is the song from Wall-E's to lose.

 

[Eternal Dragon]

They're funny like that. Winslet won two Golden Globes, Best Actress for "Revolutionary Road" and Best Supporting Actress for "The Reader". Despite "Revolutionary Road" being the more favored film before hand, not only did the Academy give most of the nominations to "The Reader", but they bumped Kate Winslet up into Best Actress category.

I just hope she gives a funny speech again. That's all I really care about.

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Dragon

 

[Papa Shango]

What song did MIA get nominated for?

 

[My$terio_Fan]

"O Saya" from Slumdog Millionaire, but I see Peter Gabriel getting it for "Down to Earth".

 

[Papa Shango]

Idk, Wall-E is such a critical darling, they may want to give it as many awards as possible, including Original Song.

 

[CCS]

If they had any sense at all Pineapple express would be nominated for movie of the year.

 

[Papa Shango]

You're an idiot who didn't deserve to be the one to make the Oscar thread.

 

[CCS]

Lol, I wasnt serious. The only interest I have in the oscars is the Wrestler and TDK anyway.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

If they had any sense at all Pineapple express would be nominated for movie of the year.

 

[Papa Shango]

Lol, I wasnt serious. The only interest I have in the oscars is the Wrestler and TDK anyway.

I'm sorry. I've been cranky today. My hands are killing me, but my mother hid my Vicodin on me cuz she's says I've been "abusing" it. Fuck that, my hands hurt, gimme the pills!

 

[Murfish]

I'm mad that I didn't see Synecdoche and can't argue for it until I see it on dvd.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

I'm sorry. I've been cranky today. My hands are killing me, but my mother hid my Vicodin on me cuz she's says I've been "abusing" it. Fuck that, my hands hurt, gimme the pills!

Why don't tell her that, in the same words, but in an even less cordial manner?

 

[48.7 is Approximately 49 Times Better Than You]

The Dark Knight = John Cena.

 

[Murfish]

No

on many levels

 

[Papa Shango]

Czena sux

The Dzark Knzight sux