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He's honestly some indy promotion's gain.
The NXT Thread Is Like Ring of Honor's Bay-Bay!
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Mighty NorCal
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So how long before they start taking the live specials to the 4k seat arenas? Would sell like hotcakes, would look and sound fucking epic, and is a natural progression.
I wouldn't want to disenfranchise the Full Sail crew though. So for at least half of them, they should try to keep them close or within the Full Sail (I cant belive I am about to fucking say this..)
Territory.
The FAU basketball arena, UCF (in Orlando) events center or some such, things like that. An outdoor show at a college or minor league baseball stadium would be fucking awesome too.
I wouldn't want to disenfranchise the Full Sail crew though. So for at least half of them, they should try to keep them close or within the Full Sail (I cant belive I am about to fucking say this..)
Territory.
The FAU basketball arena, UCF (in Orlando) events center or some such, things like that. An outdoor show at a college or minor league baseball stadium would be fucking awesome too.
Watched this week's NXT, honestly, I'm just not crazy about this Itami/Breeze feud. They had a good match at the last 2 hour special, but since then all of their matches have just been underwhelming, this week's 2/3 falls match included. As much as I love Itami/KENTA, honestly, the guy needs to pick his game up. He really hasn't impressed, like, at all so far apart from some matches with Balor. It's weird, watching him in NXT fels like I'm watching a wrestler purposely limit themselves in the ring. Even during his last year or two in NOAH when the company was/is basically fucking dead he put out more effort. Maybe part of it is limiting his in-ring style to fit the WWE mold, but as a huge fan of the guy, I honestly feel he needs to step his game up big time. With guys like Balor, Owens, Zayn, Neville, etc and soon Samoa Joe, he just has not stood out enough to deserve any kind of push or main roster call.
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Yeah you're basically saying what we all know at this point. He's had to severely limit himself not only because his top two moves were stolen but because everyone has to limit themselves in general for the WWE style. It'll be interesting to see where they have him go next since hopefully this Breeze feud is over, honestly a crime he didn't hit the GTS on Breeze since he sold it great. We might have to sit through another match just so it happens though.
Ty Burna
Getting Noticed By Management
I think he'll get there. He's not like Owens and Balor where they're fucking READY from the get go, Itami is working against a language barrier that's more difficult to get over than it has in the past. Going from the strong style to WWE style is gonna be a big change. It's far worse going from NJPW compared to ROH to WWE. It's gonna take him a little bit longer to conform and make what makes him great work in the WWE style, but he's so fucking talented that if they let him loose he's gonna do great.
That's the whole point of NXT however, to work with talent to get them ready for the main stage. The biggest thing that will help Itami is that he has shown himself willing to learn English and to learn the WWE style, compared to the original Sin Cara who didn't want to take the time to modify what he does to work with everyone and learn English.
Will Itami be a main eventer? He might be with WWE fans becoming more fans of in ring work than the gimmicks and mic work ala Daniel Bryan, but he's not gonna be hot shotted into the main roster to drown.
Daniel Bryan's incredibly likeable though. Say what you will about mike skills, he took a comedy tag team with Kane and made himself into the hottest act since Jeff Hardy.
Itami's already come a long way since his debut - when he seemed to be whiffing nine out of ten of his strikes - so there's no reason to assume he won't go further. I also can't be the only one to think threats in broken English actually sound kind of badass. He needs a better finisher - and there's obviously an easy remedy for that.
Itami's already come a long way since his debut - when he seemed to be whiffing nine out of ten of his strikes - so there's no reason to assume he won't go further. I also can't be the only one to think threats in broken English actually sound kind of badass. He needs a better finisher - and there's obviously an easy remedy for that.
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
THERE'S A SAMI ZAYN FIGURE!!!
I don't get this, how is CJ Parker being entitled about not being happy with his spot? I doubt that he came to WWE with the intentions of being a jobber. He probably was a huge fan (which according to people like Sami Zayn and Enzo, he was one of the hardest working guys) who wanted more than to just lose all the time.
He was a great heel, fucking phenomenal at being hated and he had a good match that one time with Xavier Woods i.e. that time he was given a chance. He would never be world champ but would make a good midcard heel.
He was a great heel, fucking phenomenal at being hated and he had a good match that one time with Xavier Woods i.e. that time he was given a chance. He would never be world champ but would make a good midcard heel.
You shouldn't be ashamed to be a jobber for the same reason you shouldn't be ashamed to be, I dunno, one of the terrorists in Die Hard. You're playing a character. There isn't an actual winner's purse. You're getting regular exposure and you're getting your character over. Losing fake fights doesn't matter. If you don't understand that, you don't understand professional wrestling.
Disclaimer: I don't know CJ Parker's reasons for leaving. Maybe it was a very good reason. Maybe Triple H was molesting him. All I know is I would kill to be the guy with the awesome gimmick who ran his mouth and got wrecked by the promotion's biggest stars.
Disclaimer: I don't know CJ Parker's reasons for leaving. Maybe it was a very good reason. Maybe Triple H was molesting him. All I know is I would kill to be the guy with the awesome gimmick who ran his mouth and got wrecked by the promotion's biggest stars.
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
Like, literally, I would kill people in order to attain that position
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
As Brian Pillman said when Bill Watts was trying to take away his pride to get rid of Pillman's huge contract: "I'll be the highest paid loser in wrestling."
Mighty NorCal
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He was just the best, wasn't he.
"LEAVE!! RIGHT NOW!!!"
God, that would be such a celebrated return.
"LEAVE!! RIGHT NOW!!!"
God, that would be such a celebrated return.
One of the most important assets in pro wrestling is jobbers that the fans care about. Axelmania is a great example. Nobody would care about, say, Jack Swagger beating him before, but now the audience have a connection with him it makes Swagger look better for getting rid of him. Equally, beating up a face jobber that the fans like can make people hate heels more. This is why Zack Ryder has been employed far longer than Curt Hawkins. I don't know anything about the situation, but I'd reiterate what's been said - if you're not content with your lot in that role, unless you have the potential to be in the upper midcard for 5-10 years, you don't understand professional wrestling. Brooklyn Brawler will have made more out of pro-wrestling than most.
Anyway, I want to get into NXT. I'm obviously not going to watch it from the start, but roughly how far back should I go to get good in roads?
Anyway, I want to get into NXT. I'm obviously not going to watch it from the start, but roughly how far back should I go to get good in roads?
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
I'd go to roughly November. Takeover: R-Evolution just after Christmas is one of their biggest shows ever and I believe there's a recap show just before it.
Everybody will have different answers for you, obviously. I'd say definitely watch all the live specials - there aren't that many (five, maybe?), they're only two hours long and they range from very good to excellent.
I know you're a busy man, so I'd say NXT Takeover: Fatal 4-Way would be a good starting point. That was on September 11th of last year; feel free to watch the dozens of episodes since. I'd personally recommend the string of episodes between Fatal 4-Way and the special that follows on, R-Evolution, which is Sami Zayn's Road to Redemption, which is so good it deserves to be capitalised.
It's a pity there's no pre-2014 NXT on the network because there are individual episodes I'd love to recommend (see: Bo Dallas vs. Full Sail Security, Sami Zayn versus Jack Swagger).
I know you're a busy man, so I'd say NXT Takeover: Fatal 4-Way would be a good starting point. That was on September 11th of last year; feel free to watch the dozens of episodes since. I'd personally recommend the string of episodes between Fatal 4-Way and the special that follows on, R-Evolution, which is Sami Zayn's Road to Redemption, which is so good it deserves to be capitalised.
It's a pity there's no pre-2014 NXT on the network because there are individual episodes I'd love to recommend (see: Bo Dallas vs. Full Sail Security, Sami Zayn versus Jack Swagger).
Mighty NorCal
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Yuppers. Then the other two(?) since then, then pick up weekly.
Mighty NorCal
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Hell fuckin' yea. Actually just looked up some background info on him the other day.
Went to the olympics in wrestling. Didn't win a gold medal with a broken freakin' neck, but still.
Went to the olympics in wrestling. Didn't win a gold medal with a broken freakin' neck, but still.
Mighty NorCal
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I was actually not being sarcastic but 100% serious. That's a fucking awesome name and I already want to see him get the snot kicked out of him because his name just sounds like a douchebag. Fuck his name is literally Chad, the memes write themselves.
Itsubushi Mehorakamai Acid is a GREAT worker I'll have you know. Meltzer gave his match with YOSHIHIKO Jones III seventeen and three quarter stars.
Mighty NorCal
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Interesting there aren't more prevelant heels named Chad.
Related, last week a lacrosse player from Syracuse named fuckin O'Malley god his ass whipped for roughly handling a female during a bar altercation.
There REALLY needs to be a jock character dressed like the mean street posse named O'Malley
Related, last week a lacrosse player from Syracuse named fuckin O'Malley god his ass whipped for roughly handling a female during a bar altercation.
There REALLY needs to be a jock character dressed like the mean street posse named O'Malley
