The Last Man Standing match.
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The Last Man Standing match.
Mighty NorCal
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A close second, good sir
Mighty NorCal
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The American Wolves Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards worked a tag team match against NXT Tag Team Champions, The Ascension, during tonight's NXT television taping at Full Sail University in Winter Park, FL. The former Ring of Honor tag team champions wrestled as "The American Bulldogs", losing the match.
As we reported earlier, Davey and Eddie have not received contracts to work with WWE at this point. However, it is believed that William Regal has been pushing hard backstage for Triple H to give the Wolves another shot, potentially leading to a short-term deal.
The American Bulldogs. Nice.
As we reported earlier, Davey and Eddie have not received contracts to work with WWE at this point. However, it is believed that William Regal has been pushing hard backstage for Triple H to give the Wolves another shot, potentially leading to a short-term deal.
The American Bulldogs. Nice.
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Apparently it's the American Pitbulls, not Bulldogs. It blows my mind how people that do these reports fuck shit like that up.
Norcs - or anyone else who can help, really - are you having trouble with that DesiRulez site too? It's refusing to play ball with me, and I need my NXT fix.
Edit: Ah, it's back. It's back. Everybody calm down, I'll get to fawn over Sami Zayn soon enough.
Edit2: Is it weird that I think watching an Ohno match is now an entire waste of time? It's not, is it?
Edit: Ah, it's back. It's back. Everybody calm down, I'll get to fawn over Sami Zayn soon enough.
Edit2: Is it weird that I think watching an Ohno match is now an entire waste of time? It's not, is it?
I didn't find watching the Ohno match to be a complete waste of time, but watching him win quite strongly against a a heel who's pretty hot (in every sense) felt pointless. Especially when it could've been a win for Breeze.
It does kind of show that WWE were willing to give him a second chance. But apparently he did or said something stupid between that match and the day he got fired.
It does kind of show that WWE were willing to give him a second chance. But apparently he did or said something stupid between that match and the day he got fired.
Leo Kruger has been working with a new gimmick and name. His new name is Adam Rose, what his gimmick is I don't know, but he does dress like this:
Without seeing the gimmick in action, I'm optimistic. Kruger's current gimmick isn't getting him anywhere. He's been doing it for a year at this point and he's in the same position he was in then, a jobber to the stars in developmental. He's been in the business for 15 years. He's smart enough to realise his spot isn't going to change unless he does. I know how good Leo Kruger is. I trust him and his ability as a wrestler enough to think he can make this work.
Without seeing the gimmick in action, I'm optimistic. Kruger's current gimmick isn't getting him anywhere. He's been doing it for a year at this point and he's in the same position he was in then, a jobber to the stars in developmental. He's been in the business for 15 years. He's smart enough to realise his spot isn't going to change unless he does. I know how good Leo Kruger is. I trust him and his ability as a wrestler enough to think he can make this work.
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I like Kruger and what he's been doing, shame nothing has been happening for him lately. Hopefully this new gimmick gets him to the main stage.
Mighty NorCal
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Its a shame, because in a different era, his gimmick could be very good.
Would you have been a fan of Kruger's gimmick based on a photo and a description of it as 'Skinner, with an odd accent and facial expressions'?
WHY? Kruger was great. There was legitimate character development there, remember that one episode of NXT where they got Justin Gabriel to explain how Kruger went from rich prick to disturbed poacher? Fuck that was awesome. Half the time I didn't get the guy but the one major thing I loved about him was that even when he lost, the loss didn't matter to the guy and he just wanted to hurt others.
STOP FUCKING LOVING EVERYTHING HE DOES. NXT does not need another narcissist character, they have those in excess and Kruger will be back in the jobber position because (a) he simply won't be as good as English or Breeze and (b) he's not as young as either of those guys and that plays a part. The disturbed former apartheid militia man worked and would've worked amazingly well on the main roster.
Without seeing the gimmick in action, I'm optimistic. Kruger's current gimmick isn't getting him anywhere. He's been doing it for a year at this point and he's in the same position he was in then, a jobber to the stars in developmental.
STOP FUCKING LOVING EVERYTHING HE DOES. NXT does not need another narcissist character, they have those in excess and Kruger will be back in the jobber position because (a) he simply won't be as good as English or Breeze and (b) he's not as young as either of those guys and that plays a part. The disturbed former apartheid militia man worked and would've worked amazingly well on the main roster.
Mighty NorCal
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Yes, and Kruger's great work with the gimmick got him a spot as jobber to the stars. He's got nothing to lose by changing his gimmick. At worst he stays in roughly the same spot. At best he gets a shot he otherwise might not have.
Why the fuck would I do that?
Let's establish something. You do not know what the Adam Rose gimmick is. You have seen a photo and the name he's using and concluded it is a narcissist gimmick. You may be right, you may be wrong. We do not have the information available to make that kind of judgement.
As for the rest of what you said, you're right. Kruger's 34, broke his neck two years ago and has spent 18 years of his life as a wrestler. He's also too fucking good in the ring to demote lower than his current position without releasing him. Making a gimmick change like this is a very low risk move for Kruger. Either the change pays off and his stock raises, or he ends up in the same position he was in previously. Why the fuck wouldn't he roll the dice? It's not as if he hasn't undergone gimmick changes before now.
You're right, it would have. But he's not on the main roster. He's not even close to being on the main roster. Sure, maybe if he stuck with the gimmick long enough he'd eventually get a callup. But because of the things I mentioned previously, he can't wait forever, so he's making a change.
No it got him over big time. It made him distinct, we hardly ever see a disturbing heel that works and since Wyatt left, Kruger was all there was aside from all the monster heels and pussy heels aka your Rusev's and your Bo Dallas'. Let's look at what he got as Kruger the psycho:
The first good Dallas match
To the finals of the Royal Rumble tournament
A series of great matches with Justin Gabriel.
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No, at worst he becomes that wrestler who's on his THIRD new gimmick since the inception of NXT. And at worst he's that wrestler who's on his THIRD new gimmick since the inception of NXT who even the full sail crowd don't give a shit about any longer since he no longer stands out and isn't interesting.
Because to quote you:
Sorry I didn't notice the evil and monstrous intensity of Rose, maybe it's the scarf that screams "I'm gonna cut down Adrian Neville's knees like the price cut that allowed me to buy this scarf" or maybe it's the glasses that scream "I slightly look like a post-op Amy Winehouse tribute act!". There's nothing unique to him any longer. I loved the gimmick because as over the top it was, it wasn't completely illogical.
He's not that good, lets be fair. He's never put on any 5 star clinics or even a solid B+ if we're going through KB's grading system. He was akin to Wyatt in that he was unique enough that it never mattered.
Yeah why stick around with an interesting gimmick waiting for WWE to have a reason to call you up when you can become another generic narcissistic wrestler
It was closer to the tenth good Bo match than the first. In any case it was a match that really epitomises Kruger's role in NXT. He's the guy you use to give a face (or 'face' in Bo's case) a good match without having to worry about the consequences for him. So great, he gave Bo a good match. Put him the hell over. What did it do for him? Put him in position to put over Bo's next challengers and job to Cesaro. Great, not going to help his career.
Something a handful of people saw and fewer people remember. Hell, the winner of that tournament was booted off TV within a month. Who gives a fuck? Certainly not WWE, considering the last seven callups of note weren't in that tournament.
Those two could have great matches with one another in their sleep.
If his crowning achievements are putting Bo over twice, and having three good matches with his favourite opponent whom he has wrestled multiple times over the last 15 years, he's not losing much.
1) You don't know whether the gimmick is interesting or not.
2) Kruger's creepy gimmick doesn't exactly seem great on paper either. It's Skinner with an accent and odd facial expressions.
3) You don't know how the crowd will react. This is an audience that will chant for 'that guy'. He will, at minimum get 'Leo Kruger' chants.
4) What difference does it make if a guy's on his second or third gimmick. If this gimmick sucks, he won't get called up. His second didn't either. It makes no difference in the grand scheme of things.
5) Axl Mulligan. Just because it happened at a house show doesn't mean it will on TV.
I meant why the fuck would I stop loving everything he does. As established, loving Kruger is what I do.
You're making conclusions you don't have enough information to. Kruger's been a wrestler for 18 years. He's smart enough to not take up a gimmick being done by two people already.
Yeah why stick around with an interesting gimmick waiting for WWE to have a reason to call you up when you can become another generic narcissistic wrestler
OK, I'll humour you. The more generic you are, the more roles you can be fit into. There's already a creepy heel stable and a stable of mercenaries, two of the defining characteristics of his gimmick. Where does Kruger in his unique gimmick fit? It's easier to find a role for a generic heel, even if it's not a high profile one.
There's also the issue that he's 34, and has roughly 5 years or until the bad bump to make enough money to retire on. Waiting around doing nothing isn't really an option. If nothing else, he's forcing WWE to notice him and do something about this change. Whether that's telling him to change back or pushing him with the new gimmick, it's still attention from management which might be all he's after at this point. Whatever, I'm Remix and that's enough for me to support Adam Rose new gimmick.
I'll take your word for it. Kruger bored the shit out of me in FCW so I never watched his stuff or Bo's for that matter. And please don't link me to any matches i really don't care.
They gave enough of a fuck to put him over several other high ranking NXT guys.
Except everything he worked toward with the current gimmick i.e. feuding with the world champ of NXT.
One can assume.
No. It's the pompous, rich South African who, upon getting concussed and losing a tooth in a match with Richie Steamboat was reminded what happened regarding him and the militia in South Africa which disturbed him making him want to "hunt" once more.
Full Sail are pretty smarky(In their own way) and i have a feeling they'd take a Leo Kruger over an Adam Rose any day of the week.
Axl Mulligan happened once. Adam Rose has happened twice and will reportedly be permanent. Honestly if he comes up with this just so he's brought to the main roster and teamed with Gabriel it will just suck.
Because he's not perfect. I love Antonio Cesaro but i see his shortcomings and can understand why others wouldn't like him.
Doesn't seem that way.
FTFY. Shelton Benjamin's whole run was the bomb right? I remember ALL that don't you?
Summary of everything so far.
Protip: Don't comment on things you haven't seen.
He was one of the two heels in the tournament. All that making the finals meant was that he was looked at as better than Conor O'Brian. That's not saying much.
The feud, that as I recall lasted all of one taping set and confirmed Kruger on his path to being the NXT jobber to the stars? Yeah, that makes it totally worth keeping the gimmick despite it being increasingly unlikely to result in a callup.
When you assume, you make an ass out of u and me.
No. It happened once, that you're aware of. He could have worked the gimmick at more than one that nobody bothered to record or submit to the dirt sheets. As for it being reported to be permanent, the sheets reporting it are no more credible than Wrestlezone.
Eh, it would be a step up from being enhancement talent on NXT. It would also get two of my favourite wrestlers doing something. Kruger can talk, both can work and they've got 16 years of chemistry. With an alleged increase of focus on the tag division coming up (lol) it would be a smart call for Kruger to throw his lot in with Gabriel to get a callup.
I know he's not perfect. However, I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt in this case since A) I can understand why he would want to drop a good gimmick that seems to be getting him nowhere and B) We know dick about the gimmick beyond him wearing stupid entrance gear.
I consider Kruger to be smarter than you.
Shelton Benjamin was on the main roster for 5 years and pushed heavily during that time. He worked with Angle for his first angle, went over HHH clean three times and had multiple title reigns both individually and as a tag team. During that time he would have made a damn sight more money than Kruger has in FCW/NXT. That is not a very good argument against Kruger changing his gimmick.
Fuck your debate, because it's pointless and boring and stupid.
I have 5 reasons to watch NXT. Leo Kruger and his gimmick was one of them. I'm really disappointed that they're changing it. His accent alone made it one of the best gimmicks on NXT, and now it's been taken away. It could've gotten over on the main roster. Maybe he wouldn't win the WWE title, but he'd be a great upper midcarder or top heel on Smackdown.
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I have 5 reasons to watch NXT. Leo Kruger and his gimmick was one of them. I'm really disappointed that they're changing it. His accent alone made it one of the best gimmicks on NXT, and now it's been taken away. It could've gotten over on the main roster. Maybe he wouldn't win the WWE title, but he'd be a great upper midcarder or top heel on Smackdown.
I am a sad panda.
