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The Little Things Which Bother You Far More Than They Should Do?

Oddly enough all the ones I can think of are all title defense related

Title entrance orders - I don't know when I first saw it but it was like some kind of rule that the champion would always come out last. For me that felt fitting since the champion shouldn't be waiting in the ring, that's for the challenger. But nowadays it's most popular guy last whether he's champ or not, and it just seems wrong that the champ has to be standing in the ring waiting there while the face get cheered. On a sort of related note

Introductions after entrances - Both guys gets their entrances, does their poses for the crowd, etc etc. And THEN they decide to introduce them. Just feels like a needless waste of time.

The Current Champion - Like the first one I don't know when they started adding this in but it always bugged me. Again this is unnecessary and makes the champ feel like a placeholder just waiting to be replaced compared to a champion where you'll have to win the title off him. Definitely one of those cases where adding more isn't a good thing.
 
I'll add some...

1) Almost every RAW after a pay per view, the announcers refer to one of the match endings as "controversial" even if that word does not apply. On occasion it does, but not every match in which someone cheated is necessarily a controversy. To quote princess bride, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

2) It doesn't make sense how during promos and standoffs that wrestlers are easily able to hit someone with a finisher, whereas in a wrestling match it takes a long time and you need to wear the person down first and they often can fight out of it the first few times someone goes for it.

3) Announcers (mostly Cole) yelling about someone's finishing move "from out of nowhere!" Both hearing that line and when wrestlers make it too much of a habit of winning matches by getting beat down for most of it and then somehow manage to hit their finishers with no preamble and win a match. Probably the most blatant would be Cena's AA, orton's RKO, and sheamus' boot.

4) I might take some flack for this, but continuing to use Lawler as part of the announcing team. Nothing against the guy personally, and he used to be a really good addition. But to be blunt, I have not heard him to contribute anything worthwhile to the announcement team in a long time. He's on autopilot, and it even seems like Cole and JBL are mocking him a fair amount of the time when he does speak up.
 
2. Winning a cage match by walking out the door. It's ridiculous how easy it is compared to climbing out of the cage or climbing a ladder. It's like if you run fast enough you can probably get away and jump through the door without even having to fight! That door should be locked and make them climb out of it.

5. The crowd can't count when Cesaro does his swing. They keep counting before he actually makes one complete rotation. By the time they get to 20, he probably only swung the guy like 11 or 12 times if you ignore the crowd and count yourself. And the thing is EVERY crowd does this.

Totally agree with these two. I'm not a big fan of escaping the cage in order to win at all, but walking through the door definitely shouldn't be a way out. And the counting things drives me crazy. They count every time he gets like 3/4 of the way around. I think it's because the rotations take so long, and the crowds are basically counting the seconds that he does it more than the revolutions...they're going by the rhythm that guys who are doing the corner punch or Sheamus's chest hits in the ropes(incidentally, remember the one time Brodus Clay was involved in a tag match and tried to get the crowd to chant G-R-E-A-T W-H-I-T-E for each of the hits? Why did they do that and why did it only happen once? That was weird), which are much quicker. So annoying.

The high number of wrestlers with boring generic names instead of a gimmick name e.g The Godfather, Big Boss Man, Road Dogg. Seriously they must just throw a list of names into a hat and pick 2 out at random. Luke Harper, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins Sami Zayn etc. It's not 1996, having a normal name isn't "real" or "cool", it's just incredibly boring.

Nah. Names like Godfather, Big Boss Man, and Road Dogg are stupid for the most part and it's wise to phase them out. It's fine to use them once in awhile, but they need to be the exception, not the norm. You definitely want most of the guys to have "real" or "cool" names. They're not boring, they're just not stupid. Nothing's worse than hearing "WWE Champion...Edge!" or "World Heavyweight Champion...Big Show!" Really makes you wonder what the hell you're watching and why you're watching it. If you want to complain about the normal(ie not stupid sounding) names, you can complain that they're not the wrestler's actual...real names. At least use their real first name, or a name they used on the indie circuit, so you can see the connection between the wrestler and the name. Like Michael Shawn Hickenbottom becomgin Shawn Michaels. That makes sense. Terry Bollea becoming Terry Boulder becoming Hulk Boulder becoming Hulk Hogan makes sense. Randy Paffo becoming Randy Savage makes sense. Jonathan Good becoming Jon Moxley makes sense...Jon Moxley becoming Dean Ambrose? What? I understand they want to own the name or whatever, but that wasn't an issue with John Cena or Randy Orton. And, again, you can make a slight modification that will still let you own the name but it still makes sense for the wrestler.

Agreed with pretty much the rest of your list, though.

People calling others IWC something or other on WZ......I seriously confused how they dont see they themselves are an IWC member, they are talking wrestling on the internet ,that is literally the definition of IWC

Nah. Yes, technically, by definition, everybody on the internet is the IWC, but you know it doesn't apply to everybody on the internet. When people talk about the IWC, it's a very specific subset of people who talk about wrestling on the internet. It's the people who cry about their favorite wrestler being "buried" every time they lose. It's the people who constantly talk about how bad the WWE's booking is, and whine about everything John Cena and Triple H do. You know who they are. The people who cry about how the WWE doesn't feature enough wrestling, how it's too PG, the people who think ROH is better than WWE even though they still watch the WWE for god knows what reason. That's the IWC. The people who believe the WWE always changes their mind, think the WWE blamed The Miz for the Survivor Series buyrate, think everything is booked on the fly, etc. because they believe EVERYTHING they read on websites like WrestleZone, without questioning it at all. That's the IWC. The people who think Daniel Bryan wasn't originally scheduled to win the title at WrestleMania and the WWE was forced to change their plans, because they think the WWE is run by incompetent morons who can't do anything right. That's the IWC.

Like many people here, I have a problem with the commentators, all three of them. Worst one being Cole, as whenever something heelish is going on in the ring, like a beatdown, they just go completely quiet and just hear Cole saying stuff like "This... it's hard to watch. How can he do such a thing..." Whereas whenever this happened with JR, he'd be all "OH FOR GOODNESS SAKE, HE'S HAD ENOUGH GODDAMN IT! SOMEONE STOP THE DAMN MATCH!"

For example, Cole at probably the biggest moment to ever happen in modern wrestling: "The streak... is over." Wow Cole, way to express the emotion... I miss JR so much.

Clearly, you're right about how much Cole sucks. There's no arguing that. But to be fair, he handled the streak ending PERFECTLY. I would hope JR would've done the exact same thing: call the finish and shut the hell up. The stunned silence of the announce team, without even Lesnar's music playing, fit the moment perfectly.

Oddly enough all the ones I can think of are all title defense related

Title entrance orders - I don't know when I first saw it but it was like some kind of rule that the champion would always come out last. For me that felt fitting since the champion shouldn't be waiting in the ring, that's for the challenger. But nowadays it's most popular guy last whether he's champ or not, and it just seems wrong that the champ has to be standing in the ring waiting there while the face get cheered. On a sort of related note

Introductions after entrances - Both guys gets their entrances, does their poses for the crowd, etc etc. And THEN they decide to introduce them. Just feels like a needless waste of time.

The Current Champion - Like the first one I don't know when they started adding this in but it always bugged me. Again this is unnecessary and makes the champ feel like a placeholder just waiting to be replaced compared to a champion where you'll have to win the title off him. Definitely one of those cases where adding more isn't a good thing.

Totally agree with the first one. The champion should come out last, all the time every time. Can't agree with the second one, though. I think doing the introductions after they're in the ring adds to the big feel of the match...in boxing and MMA, the title matches are treated like a bigger deal even in the introductions. The introductions are longer and more drawn out, then the fighters meet in the center of the ring for instructions from the ref. It makes them stand out from the other matches and builds the hype and anticipation.

Speaking of introductions, I'll start my list of things that bother me there: the random differences in what's included in introductions and what's not. It should be where they're from, their height, their weight, a nickname if they have one, their title if they have one, and their name. For every wrestler. And that's how it was for a long time. Now, they seem to pick and choose what to include for each wrestler. It seems like only the tall guys like Big Show and Great Khali have their heights included. And where's Big Show from? I have no idea, because they never say it when they're introducing him. I know John Cena's from West Newbury, and I know he weighs 248 lbs, but I have no idea how tall he is. Maybe the announcers just can't remember all that stuff, I don't know.

Commercials in the middle of matches. This happens way too often. I understand it's unavoidable during certain lengthy matches, but could be avoided more than it is. And it's always so predictable...one guy will get thrown out of the ring, the other will be standing in the ring, and the announcers will tell us the match continues next! as they fade to black. It's always in a lull in the match.

Bray Wyatt backstage lighting the lantern, telling the crowd they're here(I do like that they individualize it for each city, that was a nice addition), then blowing it out...and then coming out with a different(?) lantern lit. It doesn't make sense. There's got to be a better way to do that.

Somebody else mentioned the lack of pyro at the beginning of the show, and I definitely agree with that, but they don't even have a theme song anymore! They always just do their "Then. Now. Forever." thing and start with a recap of last week or the PPV or just get right into the beginning of the show. I miss having an easily identifiable theme song that got you pumped up for the show.

Wrestlers not properly clearing the announce tables when they're not going to actually put the person through it. Obviously they always remove the monitors if somebody's going through the table, but a lot of times if they get stopped, they won't actually remove the monitors. I mean, I'm sure the announcers appreciate their monitors still being there, but you know nothing's going to happen when they don't remove them.

Somebody else mentioned guys slapping their thighs for the sound affects when they're punching somebody(Kofi Kingston), and another thing some guys will do for the noise is just stomp down too hard on the mat. They're hitting the mat harder than they would be punching the other guy if the punches were real. Sometimes less is more, people.

Somebody else mentioned how some wrestlers will use other wrestlers' finishers as regular moves...I tend to agree with this, and especially submission moves. Are we just supposed to believe HBK's figure four wasn't as painful as Ric Flair's? But The Miz's was? Why, because Flair taught it to him? Like everything else, not a major issue, but it's a little thing that annoys me.
 
i hate, hate, hate how justin roberts says wwe. dude's announcing just annoys the hell out of me. the finks not that old, get him back out there. atleast when he announces the championship match it doen't sound like a complete ****** is out there talking.
 
Something that has been bothering me for years is that during no dq tag team matches, the teams actually tag in and out of the ring. This makes absolutely no sense. If i can't be disqualified than why the hell am I tagging my partner? You can hit someone over the head wit a chair and put them through a table but dont you dare step into the ring without making a tag lmao.

Another thing is AJ's music...its terrible and doesn't fit her character at all
 
A lot of the things people address happen for the sake of "putting on a show". It is meant to make you care about a match, a result etc. I know most of you know this, and this thread is made more out of fun than bitchiness, but many things, while they wouldn't happen in "real life" are just to make the feud or match seem more important.

One of my gripes is - what is the difference between different forms of Hardcore Matches? We have "No-Holds-Barred", "No-DQ Match", "Streetfight", "Hardcore Match", "Extreme Rules" Match and even "Falls-Count-Anywhere" where weapons are used. The terms seem interchangable.

I think there should be distinct differences in each of these matches e.g. F-C-A is no-countout, but you can get DQ'ed. "Streetfight" should be held outside the ring, maybe in another location, "No-Holds-Barred" means you have to pin them in the ring, Hardcore means that it is No-DQ, No-Countout, Falls-Count-Anywhere.

This way, it avoids confusion. At the moment, these matches could be termed any or all of these, instead of defining it as one type of match or another.

Another peeve is by wrestling fans and journos. It is how they say that someone wasn't put over "clean", even when it is a cage match, hardcore match etc. How can you get beaten "clean" in a Hardcore Match or cage match, when the very point is to use the weapons or enviroment at their disposal. In a normal match, you can accuse it of a screwy finish, but one that doesn't have a DQ to it, means that no-one is "screwed" over because both are allowed to have run-ins, use weapons etc.

Also, a young up-and-comer losing a match doesn't mean that they are being "buried". It seems that the IWC demand that everyone have a "Goldberg-type" run to get over. If one loss "buries" a potential future star, then maybe they don't have what it takes to be a superstar in the first place, if the fans are so fickle on them.
 
These points are in no way denouncing my hate for WWE, as I absolutely love the product in general, but yeah...

- I understand the commentators need the monitors in their announce tables, but it constantly annoys me that while a match is going on, if you happen to see them in the background of the camera shot, they're head down looking at their tiny little monitor, and it makes them look like they're not watching the action at all. It also makes the time before putting someone through a table just awkward. In reality, if you were going to put someone through an announce table, would you really care about the monitors already there? Or would you just pick the guy up straightaway and smash him through? :p Don't worry, I'm not oblivious as to why that can't happen and I know that can't be changed, but it still bugs me.

- WWE constantly messing with certain themes. E.g., Big E's theme was really cool initially, then for whatever reason they decided to remove the bass from it, and now it sounds so flat an generic. Why mess with it? It was fine before. Also, whoever came up with Cesaro's new theme needs to be future endeavored.

- NO I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE WWE APP, AND YES I ALREADY KNOW HOW TO DOWNLOAD IT, SHUT UP.

- Smackdown and Raw intro songs. They suck. I miss the Attitude era Raw intro song more and more everytime I have to listen to those awful intros. I don't even listen to much rock or heavy metal, but something a little more badass wouldn't go amiss. I enjoy the UFC intro song, and the various backing music they play during their shows, for example. WWE intros are too passive.

- Divas, stop screaming before a move. This is mainly directed at the Bella twins. It doesn't make you look strong or sound intimidating, it makes you sound like you're about to attack the stain you got on your newest dress. You are not Roman Reigns. Only one I give a pass on is Paige, and she only screams as part of her entrance and exit after a win.

- Fake Smackdown crowd chants. I understand why they need them considering most SD crowd are mainly casuals, but don't play a huge crowd pop when we can see them right in front of us absolutely motionless.
 
1. When Michael Cole is sitting next to a former wrestler (Tazz, JBL, etc.) during a special match and he asks the usual "What's the strategy going in to this match?" "Tazz, if I were Kurt Angle, what should my strategy be in this match against Lesnar?" "John, what sort of strategy should the animal Batista use against the Undertaker?" I know they have the experience of being former wrestlers, but still.

2. The fact that nobody has yet figured out how to move out the way or counter Roman Reign's Superman Punch. It's not like the Spear where someone's shooting right at you and you really can't prepare for it.

3. "Fad" entrance songs that the whole crowd hums along to. The interraction is good but lately the songs are a fad that are more over than the wrestler themselves and eventually they die out. (Fandango, Emma, and now Adam Rose.)

4. I know this is the one that gets everyone: When somebody's beating somebody else up in the ring and they're about to finish them off somebody's music hits and they come in to save them. The person giving the beatdown just stares at the person running (more like jogging) to the ring. Triple H could've done the Pedigree or someone else done the finishing move during the time that they are staring at the savior coming to the ring.

5. When someone misses a dropkick they have to land on their back as a way of "hurting themselves". Man that drives me crazy. They have to twist their body sideways and land that way to execute the move but whenever they miss they end up flat on their back. Orton is a big example of that. On that note, when they miss an elbow drop they should land and bang their elbow right? But they suddenly land flat on their back. Kane is a big example of that.

6. It's annoying when someone falls or accidently puts themself through a table in a tables match but they are declared eliminated anyway.

7. Intergender tag matches. Never liked them because the rule that both tags must be made at the same time so that the men can't fight the women, they must fight the same gender. So if you're beating somebody up and you decide to tag then you have to wait and let them tag their partner as well. So it's basically a men's match and a diva's match trying to take place at the same time while pausing and interrupting eachother.
 
I hate the phrase "I've never seen him man handled like this before" when talking about people like taker , big show and Kane ect I know there selling the match but how many time can you say it.

In the royal rumble/battle royals when someone who is eliminated eliminates another guy I always think they shouldn't be eliminated and just put back in the match, but again I know this is just for feuds but I just think it's stupid.
 
Throwing repetitive straight punches looks stupid when there's not so much as a red mark on the opponent's face.

Why could Rollins & Reigns help Ambrose in the battle royal? in fact why don't more people cheat in the royal rumble as it is?

The referees being apparently made of papier mache, and being unconscious after one slight bump

Wasting 20 minutes just to promote Total Divas rather than having a match or segment promoting their own performers and shows.

Smackdown being more or less ignored by the writers and fans, resulting in them often having the exact same matches as Raw, and also this is the reason why I've seen Santino Marella and Fandango wrestle countless times over the past month
 
I could come up w/ dozens of little pet peeves, but this one is fresh on my mind because we just had a battle royal on Monday:

Announcers saying the "big guys" in the Battle Royal/Royal Rumble are "favorites" when they hardly EVER win. They act like they can't imagine anyone throwing them out when its a standard part of these matches to have a bunch of guys team up to eliminate the big guy.

And here's one from back in the day:

Ric Flair getting body slammed off of the top turnbuckle. I don't think he EVER landed a move from the top rope. Wouldn't you stop going up there if every single time you did, your opponent got to you before you could do anything and he tossed you onto your back??

To the battle royal point, also, when there are like 4-5 guys remaining, when two of them are a team, it seems like two random guys go after each other and the team goes against the one remaining. One of the random gets eliminated, the 1 vs 2 guy gets eliminated, so we have the team vs 1 random guy.
WHY CAN'T THOSE THREE GUYS REALIZE THAT THE OTHER TWO ARE A TEAM, SO WE SHOULD ELIMINATE THEM, THEN SETTLE OUR DIFFERENCES????



Also, it really bugs me how they don't give the talent enough mic freedom. I vividly remember the night after WM, Bryan cutting his promo and stuff and HHH coming out and challenging him for later that night. It shouldn't be a big deal, but Bryan just sat there and chanted YES. What I would want him to do? He should pick up the mic and say "well Hunter, you know, I kicked your ass last night, I certainly would love to do it again tonight". But I don't know how much HHH lets guys take initiatives like these, because it would become embarassing.
On that note, HHH bashes guys, mostly Bryan, for their weaknesses, but when other guys come to talk smack about him, they are probably not allowed to speak a lot, which also frustrates me.



On another note, what doesn't make sense to me is how the Shield acted last Raw, when Ambrose was defending the title. The heel Shield would enter the match and help out Ambrose retain. But now they didn't. And what bugs me about that is that they technically didn't change anything in their mind sets. It's not like they realized that they shouldn't be bad guys or anything. They did the same thing back then and they are still doing the same thing now; they are looking for justice.



Also frustrating is the feuds ending with... well... no ending, even the little ones. Fandango vs Marella suddenly became Fandango vs Ziggler.


I can't think of many more at the moment, but I can probably come up with a lot more if I think about it, but I'm really tired so I won't do that.

Really fun topic though!
 
Also, it always seems wierd to me that, in battle royals, since you can only be eliminated by going over the top rope, why aren't people "secretly" exiting through the second rope, wait for the match to end, then come back and have like one opponent left to eliminate? It happened with Santino when Del Rio won the Royal Rumble. I understand to some extent that the Superstars want to go out there and fight and stuff, but when a main event spot at WM is the reward, you should approach the match with greater caution.

EDIT: Also, surprised that no one has mentioned this, but the logic of the tag matches. The faces start off strong doing some awesome moves and stuff, until they throw their opponents out of the ring, where we go to a commercial break. We come back and magically, every freaking time, the heels have the upper hand, they beat down the face for 5 minutes until a hot tag is made, the other face comes in and EVERY FREAKING TIME he clears the ring etc.
Also, why is the face team standing at the left of the screen and the heel on the right? So wierd.
 
And here's one from back in the day:

Ric Flair getting body slammed off of the top turnbuckle. I don't think he EVER landed a move from the top rope. Wouldn't you stop going up there if every single time you did, your opponent got to you before you could do anything and he tossed you onto your back??

I've seen him actually do a move from the top rope, I think every time he goes up there its meant to be for a flying knee drop, well thats my theory anyway because thats the move I've seen him do.

My pet peeve is that there are not enough huge fat guys anymore like King Kong Bundy, Earthquake and One Man Gang. Sometimes you just want to see people get squashed.
Lots of the wrestlers these days are relatively small. It seems to be the only sport where the athletes have actually shrunk over the last two decades.

I know it makes for better matches having smaller, more agile wrestlers but its meant to be the heavyweight champion and the actual champion (Daniel Bryan, although I do like him) would struggle to weigh in at 200lbs. We all know the weights are kayfabe, I'd say he'd really weigh about 170lbs.

I think the world title should still be held by big guys like in the Hogan era and the better wrestlers should all go for the IC title and be tag teams.

Because at the end of the day, the world title is about suspending disbelief, well it is to me anyway.
 
People calling PPV's "Special Events" despite them never once saying it on Television!

Ok, sure, many reports that they will be slowly turning to calling them this, but isn't it premature just to start laughing and joking about "Special Events" despite them not ever once saying so on TV?

At least wait till they say it on television -_-
 
Bray Wyatt's fake gas lamp he enters with using a white light rather than a yellowish one, it's very jarring considering moments ago we saw him with a yellow one on screen.

Commentators discussing other feuds or superstars who have no connection the match currently on.
 
I love this thread.

Things that bother me personally:

-When wrestlers do some weird thing in the ring and they should get knocked down immediately but they don't. Example: When Santino is thrown against the ropes and does a weird power walk across the ring a couple of times. The other guy looks at him ******edly when it'd be easy to knock the daylights out of Santino. Also, Scotty Too Hotty with the WORM. I LOVED! the WORM. But if that guy could stay knocked down while doing that dance, that'd been enough time to cover him and get a 3. Another funny one I will forever remember is when Coachman faced Eugene at Bad Blood and Eugene threw Coach against the ropes and left the ring. Coach kept on running 'til he got tired. My friend and I used to play the old Smackdown games and run across the ring over and over again like idiots yelling, "COACH!!!"

-When a finisher build-up RARELY leads to a finisher.
Orton's RKO: Punches the Ground, goes to do it, pushed away.
Sheamus' Kick: Beats chest, runs, opponent ducks.
HBK: Tune up the band, opponent ducks.
I can name off tons, but you get it. This is why the announcers are always saying, "Out of nowhere!" because, if it wasn't, the end finish time would be too predictable.

-When doing a superplex off the top turnbuckle, both superstars "are hurt." I know it must be heck to drop that far onto wood. But announcers are always quick to point out, "Welp, looks like he hurt himself with that move."

-Referees giving the DQ Count: "1, 2, 3, 4, come on get off or I'll DQ you! Stop! Come on! Off of him!"
I understand it's for the heels to get heat, but the refs take 5 seconds more getting them off. Maybe give a DQ warning in between counting. But you just don't see referees going for the pin count: "1, 2, come on you still have a chance to kick out, you got this!...."

-They still have certain gimmick matches that used to bring a bunch of blood, but they got rid of the blood. IE Elimination Chamber, Hell in a Cell, TLC

-Not many non-interview backstage segments. I mean the Austin filling a limo with cement type segments. Kane throwing Shane into a fiery pit. Parking Lot brawls. Idk, more out of ring action.

-People who complain about WWE

-People who make lists

-Hypocrites
 
The one that really annoys is me is the Champion coming out first in a title match. In my opinion the Champ should ALWAYS be the last man out, to show the importance of the title and that the challenger should wait for the champion to make his entrance, not the other way around. The Champion has earned that right.

The lack of mid-card feuds/storylines. Back in the Attitude Era it seemed like everyone had a storyline, or alliances/rivals. I've seen videos of Vince Russo/Ed Ferrara talking about how their goal each week was to ensure that everyone had something to do. I hate seeing random wrestlers thrown into random matches for no particular reason.

I really dislike alot of the standard boring names we get these days, especially in NXT. I quite like wrestlers having "real" sounding names, rather than gimmick names like "Big Boss Man" etc, but I prefer it when the realistic name sounds a little different than the average guy on the street. "Roman Reigns", "Chris Jericho", "Shawn Michaels" etc sound cool, but names like "Adrian Neville", "Sheamus" just sound dull. Some of the NXT ones are even worse.
 
A couple more things to add to the list here, watching the show today.

-When something is blatantly telegraphed. Here, I'm specifically referring to Bray Wyatt sending Rowan and Harper out of the ring to intercept Cena when his music hits, only for...shocking, Cena comes out of the crowd and AAs Wyatt. Wyatt would never send Harper and Rowan out like that under normal circumstances, so it was clear as soon as it happened what was coming. This sort of stuff is a regular staple of TNA, which is why I just can't watch it, but WWE does it too from time to time.

-Beat The Clock challenges. This didn't happen tonight(yet, anyway; I haven't seen all the matches), but when they do a BTC challenge and they specifics which person in the match is trying to beat the clock...and then about halfway through, when the other guy is looking good, the announcers have to go "wait, what happens if he wins???" It makes the match predictable in that either the one guy is going to win in a faster time or it's going the full time limit. Again, a small thing, but if they could at least try to act like both guys have a chance to win and beat the clock...

-Not from tonight, but when people act like they don't know the cameras are there. Or, in future weeks, when people acted like they didn't see something that happened on camera the previous week. Like the famous Jericho/Stratus/Christian/Lita bet angles from years ago. I'm not saying they should look at the camera or talk to the camera or even acknowledge it's there, but it's silly to act like they're alone and nobody can see what they're doing.

-The lack of identifiable referees. Used to be a time when you knew who all the refs were, and that was because the announcers mentioned them by name and talked about them from time to time. Now, the closest thing we get is JBL saying "#hardbodyref" once in a while. I'm not saying they should be apart of storylines(in fact, they very much should NOT, ever, be part of storylines), but it seems like they go out of their way to not even say the referee's name during matches. I'm not really sure why this bothers me, but it does. I like when they were part of the show and not just some anonymous guy in a striped shirt.
 
Crispin Noir, how about the fact that he lights the lamp to say "we're here", then blows it out only to walk into the arena with it lit again?

For me, it is actually all the little stuff like that - things that are done for no logical reason. The delay when they call someone out - they call out wrestling x and we wait and wait and they call them again and we wait until finally the music hits. Annoys me to no end.
 
I hate that each show looks the same, same set, same ring ropes, steps, lighting etc.....

I would like to see a new HD set for starters, with a bigger entrance ramp for starters, but then have different little extras that they can use for each show. Raw could have a different surround around the titantron for example. Or Smackdown could have some extra side screens that woudn't be there on Raw. Raw should have red ropes, Smackdown blue. The white steps and ring ropes are fine for PPV, have black for weekly tv shows, that makes it different!!

Also hate the red and blue lighting on the crowd, much prefer being able to see the crowd, makes them feel part of the show.

Furthermore, I HATE the 'fixed' feel, backstage segments (there is a bloody camera crew in front of you, the daniel bryan/kane/brie bella car segment was stupid, camera in the car, quite noticeable), moves done facing hard camera, music hitting for a run-in (if you wanted to attack someone, why give them warning by playing your music).

Modern day chair attacks look sooooo weak. I don't want an unprotected shot to the head with a normal chair now I know the risks, but surely a gimmicks chair could be used? Or if not, the receipent could absorb the impact with a hand at the last second.

Title belts annoy me, the straps are shorter now, the WWE and World betls (they need a new belt now unified btw) have REALLY short straps and only 2 side plates. They should all have 5 side plates (like the good old days). Championship belts mean you are the champion of a division and as such should look impressive, none of today's belts give me that impression.

There are more, but cna't be bothered to share at this time.
 
Slamming guys head first into the announce table. Rarely do I ever see a guy take it in a way that looks believable. All forearms and hands. And of course, the removal of the monitors. Because when you want to really hurt a guy by chokeslamming him through the table, you are going to be concerned about the damage the monitors may do.

I'm not saying to leave the monitors in there, we don't want them to get legit hurt, but it still looks ridiculous when they do this.
 
Oh man, it would always bug me when some wrestlers would set up their finishers by slamming the mat or having the crowd chant something. A few finishers that come to mind are the Sweet Chin Music, The Brogue Kick and the Meathook clothesline. Like what the hell... Does the opponents hearing just switch off automatically?

I mean when you here HBK stomping or the crowd yelling BROGUE, why wouldn't you just get the hell out of the ring instead of standing up and turning around? Am I supposed to believe they don't know what's coming?
 
Furthermore, I HATE the 'fixed' feel, backstage segments (there is a bloody camera crew in front of you, the daniel bryan/kane/brie bella car segment was stupid, camera in the car, quite noticeable), moves done facing hard camera, music hitting for a run-in (if you wanted to attack someone, why give them warning by playing your music).

I agree with you on the show set-up and stage stuff. That should be improved.

I also agree on the 'fixed' feel of backstage segments. But I remember TNA used to (maybe still do?) have more of a 'secret camera' backstage segment where it looked like a camera guy peered into a room where the guys never saw it and therefore it made it a little more believable if they guys were talking about strategy or something 'private'. Problem is, apparently a bunch of people hated it and now TNA doesn't do it as much anymore.

WWE has never really done it and don't think they will change. It does suck though because WWE really flip flops on whether people backstage are aware the camera is there or not. Like one time it is clearly a backstage interview so the wrestler looks right into the camera to get a promo but the next time it is like 3 guys in the locker room talking strategy. It's not so bad when the strategy is basic because maybe you can believe the guys wouldn't care that they are being filmed but when it is 'secret' strategy that's when it makes it hard to believe.

BUT, as for the music playing when there is a run-in, you have to be careful what you wish for.

Music playing for a run-in is clearly done to help make ALL the crowd aware of a wrestler's appearance and increase their pop.

Imagine, in the famous match where Mankind beat Rock for the WWE Championship and Stone Cold burst in while chaos started to erupt down at the ring. Would you really rather there was no playing of the glass-shattering entrance music of Stone Cold as he entered? Sure, the fans would have seen him come down the ramp and cheered but it may have taken a few seconds for everyone to recognize and the pop would have been much lower.

The way I look at that one is, I just believe there have been 'official orders' given to the production crew that if any Superstar comes through the curtain they are ordered to play their music. So it's not that the Superstar him/herself is giving away their surprise entrance by choice it is that the production crew was told to always play entrance music if they see the Superstar going through.

That would also explain why there is NOT entrance music when a Superstar runs-in from the crowd because the production crew didn't see it coming.


Title belts annoy me, the straps are shorter now, the WWE and World betls (they need a new belt now unified btw) have REALLY short straps and only 2 side plates. They should all have 5 side plates (like the good old days). Championship belts mean you are the champion of a division and as such should look impressive, none of today's belts give me that impression.

The title belts is something I also agree are too lackluster!

Each belt should be GOLD beauties but they are all so different and lackluster.

They DESPERATELY need to update virtually all the title belts.

WWE World Heavyweight Championship belts BADLY need to be unified to one belt.

WWE Tag Team Championship belts BADLY need to be re-done so they are actually GOLD and not giant pennies and change it so that it doesn't say "Tag Team Champions" on one belt, it should say "Tag Team Champion" because if you have one belt you are just A Tag Team Champion not like Team Hell No used to say "I AM THE TAG TEAM CHAMPIONS" as one guy.

WWE Divas Championship should be re-designed. It should be smaller. It's bigger than the damn United States Championship. The NXT Women's Title is beautiful. The WWE Diva's title is greatly exaggerated.

WWE United States and IC Titles are OKAY and could stay the same but the other belts mentioned above badly need to be updated.
 

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