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The Israeli/Palestine war

DirtyJosé;4948753 said:
So that totally makes killing kids ok.


So that totally makes it OK to shoot rockets while the world condemns israel for trying to get rid of the launch when they themselves are in a soft war with the very same people who want them to be wiped off the map? So that's ok too right? Do you realize that the Hamas government told the people themselves if they leave they'd get shot?

Edit: Not by Israel, but by the government themselves.
 
So that totally makes it OK to shoot rockets while the world condemns israel for trying to get rid of the launch when they themselves are in a soft war with the very same people who want them to be wiped off the map? So that's ok too right? Do you realize that the Hamas government told the people themselves if they leave they'd get shot?

So you are saying that you can justify the deaths of children?
 
That was too many words for you Doug. Stick to facepalms.



Live Yáz;4948769 said:
Doug's people killed Jesus, I'm sure he will justify killing a few kids.


Is it still considered killing if they use magic to come back? Like if I shot David Blaine in the head, they buried him & then a week later he popped up in front of a K-Mart with a basket of chocolate eggs, would I have to go to jail?
 
DirtyJosé;4948765 said:
So you are saying that you can justify the deaths of children?


It is the RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT to MAKE SURE your POPULATION IS SAFE. Do the Palestinians have a viable government that has the AUTHORITY to MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE? NO! THE GOVERNMENT THEMSELVES PREVENTS THEM FROM LEAVING!!!!
 
It is the RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT to MAKE SURE your POPULATION IS SAFE. Do the Palestinians have a viable government that has the AUTHORITY to MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE? NO! THE GOVERNMENT THEMSELVES PREVENTS THEM FROM LEAVING!!!!

It's hard to leave a refugee camp when Israel is bombing the buses, bikes, roads, and oh yeah, refugee camps.
 
It is the RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT to MAKE SURE your POPULATION IS SAFE. Do the Palestinians have a viable government that has the AUTHORITY to MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE? NO! THE GOVERNMENT THEMSELVES PREVENTS THEM FROM LEAVING!!!!

Quit dodging the fucking question Crashin. Are you telling me with all honesty that you can in some way justify or rationalize the killing of innocent children. Yes or no.

I have not taken any side here, so please stop trying to continue on with your partisan bullshit, bullshit that you have hinted stems not from an understanding of the plight of the people involved (all of them) but because "I'm Jewish". I care not for the specific excuses, whether there is merit or not. One simple fucking question, which presents one of two possible answers.

Fess up or shut up. Thanks.
 
DirtyJosé;4948779 said:
Quit dodging the fucking question Crashin. Are you telling me with all honesty that you can in some way justify or rationalize the killing of innocent children. Yes or no.

I have not taken any side here, so please stop trying to continue on with your partisan bullshit, bullshit that you have hinted stems not from an understanding of the plight of the people involved (all of them) but because "I'm Jewish". I care not for the specific excuses, whether there is merit or not. One simple fucking question, which presents one of two possible answers.

Fess up or shut up. Thanks.



No. I can not justify the killing of civilians. No matter how you slice it. Both sides are wrong in this one.
 
Likewise with the rockets. Israel doesn't have a choice. Why would you live with rocket fire 24/7 from a people that don't believe you should exist?

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No. I can not justify the killing of civilians. No matter how you slice it. Both sides are wrong in this one.

Thank you.

I am sympathetic to both sides here. I know Hamas provokes this shit when they don't get what they want, but as you said before, Israel has an actual functioning government. They should act like the developed nation that they are instead of getting sucked down to Hamas's level.

To reiterate, as I said first in this thread, most everyone involved in this situation with any kind of control over it is fucked. My heart is to the people on both sides stuck in the middle.
 

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