The "Everybody Makes A Big Deal About Kevin Nash's Theme" Thread (Discuss nWo here)

[SickJames]

No, you haven't. You've spouted off about how it would be so uber cool to see Sting in the nWo and that's about it.



Because this site isn't entirely about sitting around and jerking each other off and complimenting each for our different styles. Discussion includes debate and analysis, and that's exactly what I've brought to you. I'm sorry you really can't handle criticism of what you seemingly think is a great idea.



Oh, there's that terrible IWC-boogeyman argument again. Except that you're wrong. You see, there's this misconception that the IWC is "them" and never "us" or "you" or "me". Look at the Cena heel turn discussion for example: you can have equal sides of people split between thinking it's a great idea and thinking it's a shit idea, and both sides will rail about how the other is just the typical "IWC" puppet. Both are right and both are wrong. We're all the IWC, so making some point about how it's always them vs. you is stupid, pointless, childish, and ultimately inaccurate.

Furthermore, why did you come here in the first place to share suggestions and ideas if you weren't open to criticism as well as praise? You can't have your cake and eat it too, you have to take it both. It's isn't some IWC conspiracy to hate on every idea or suggestion, it's just that seemingly most of your ideas and suggestions are utter shit.



I love how you seem to think that every star got over off the back of a fading older star, like every new star was handed a torch or something and that they were nothing before that. Rock was only "handed a torch" by Hogan LONG after he had gotten himself over with the help of Austin, Foley, and HHH, all of whom were performers with more or less the same time in the WWE spotlight as himself. Want an idea? How about letting Punk, Miz, Truth, Morrison, Bryan, Ziggler, Kofi, Del Rio, and Barrett all get over off the back of good booking, solid angles, and stellar performances? Why bother with digging up corpses of the past like Sting and the nWo and just let these guys do what we let Austin, Rock, Foley, Jericho, Angle and HHH do before them? You talk elsewhere about how much you love Vince for taking risks and chances, so why not encourage him to take chances with the new guys instead of doing the same old shit of thinking that you can only get to the promised land off of the back of the old guard?

You cant argue against an idea that was original before the original, there's nothing wrong with seeing that today. No one's saying drag it out, and again, I'm not IWC, you're the typical IWC guy though. I dont mind criticism, but your criticism is so generic and identical to most of the mindless negative crap the likes that comes out of the mouths of most including Madden.


You've got this thing about new guys getting over, but they did try with new guys, you still do need older guys, if they beat each other from the get go, nobodies, it means nothing, but beating bigger stars than they are IS what pushes stars, or being aligned with a star in a storyline or a good manager etc, how can you seriously sit there and claim that any returning angle or star automatically steals spotlight, that's bullshit right there and is generic IWC parotting


You dont have your own ideas, so you criticise others, insults dont prove your point either, but it shows that you think you're pretty witty when you arent and when I even asked you to come up with a better idea you couldnt even do it.

You are the typical IWC guy who runs his mouth on how everything sucks and does nothing about it or even suggests anything to make it better, I mean in detail, not the repeated lines of everyone like you, Madden does the same thing every segment on CSR.

 

[HorsemenNo4]

An NWO revival? Please god no. I loved them back in the day but another reincarnation of it would be awful.
Nash leading a new stable of guys would be okay but don't give them the NWO name. That should remain buried.

 

[DirtyJosé]

You cant argue against an idea that was original before the original,

Lolwut?

there's nothing wrong with seeing that today. No one's saying drag it out, and again, I'm not IWC, you're the typical IWC guy though.

1: Yes, there is something wrong with seeing a nWo revival today featuring Sting, Nash, and Hall plus others. It would suck, it would have no proper build up or lead in, it would make no sense and it would take up time from an otherwise crowded roster.

2: Drag it out? If you're going to invest that much air time and money into getting Sting and others in for a nWo revival it better be for more that just a minute or otherwise it's that much worse of a waste of time. What are you saying here? That you'd like this just for a month or so? Wow, you really are stupid.

3: Great response, Mr. Maturity. "I'm not, YOU ARE!". You really showed me.

I dont mind criticism, but your criticism is so generic and identical to most of the mindless negative crap the likes that comes out of the mouths of most including Madden.

And you really don't see how resorting to the IWC argument and comparing me to Mark Madden is the same generic comeback made all over these forums and the main page all the damn time?

Also, lovely. Nice to see you going wildly off topic on your own thread simply because you can't actually make any valid argument so you're just going to sound off again at how it's the IWC keeping you down. You're gonna go far here, champ.

You've got this thing about new guys getting over, but they did try with new guys, you still do need older guys, if they beat each other from the get go, nobodies, it means nothing, but beating bigger stars than they are IS what pushes stars, or being aligned with a star in a storyline or a good manager etc, how can you seriously sit there and claim that any returning angle or star automatically steals spotlight, that's bullshit right there and is generic IWC parotting

First of all you ignorant fuck, stop putting words in my mouth. I NEVER said ANY returning star is stealing the spotlight from others. Go back and fucking look up all my posts. Yeah, that's right, sit down and shut the fuck up.

Second of all, yes I've got a thing about new guys getting over; this mentality of always going for the old guys is why we've gone so long with out any new stars beyond Cena and debatably Orton. It's why ratings have gone from 5's and 6's to 2's and 3's. Instead of focusing on building up new stars THE SAME WAY STARS LIKE AUSTIN, ROCK, HHH, FOLEY, JERICHO, AND ANGLE WERE BUILT (WHICH WAS THROUGH GREAT STORY TELLING, GREAT ANGLES, AND GREAT MATCHES), WWE played it safe and kept relying on the same old rotation of old guys. Are you going to actually acknowledge that point, or are you simply going to pretend that those stars of old got over off of guys like Hogan? None of those I listed needed a Hogan, or a Nash, or a Sting to get over with. None.

Finally, I simply love how much of the irony of you calling me the IWC parrot is lost on you. You like wrestling, no? You are on the internet, right? You are a member of this community, correct? Well, guess what you are...

You dont have your own ideas, so you criticise others, insults dont prove your point either, but it shows that you think you're pretty witty when you arent and when I even asked you to come up with a better idea you couldnt even do it.

This isn't my thread, I don't have to come up with ideas. This is the discussion YOU started, it's not my fault that you want to quit and run away now simply because you've been embarrassed. Tell you what, if you want to see stuff that I create go look up my work in WZCW. I spend my creative energy coming up with ideas for new things and new outlets, not jacking off over Sting being the new nWo leader for no comprehensible reason.

You are the typical IWC guy who runs his mouth on how everything sucks and does nothing about it or even suggests anything to make it better, I mean in detail, not the repeated lines of everyone like you, Madden does the same thing every segment on CSR.

Again, it's nice to see that your ignorance and anal sensitivity have blinded you to reality so much that you are putting words into my mouth to fit your out of touch view of the world. When did I say that everything sucks? When did I even say that anything needed fixing? Maybe, just maybe, I am quite content with how things are going in the WWE for the time being, did you ever think of that? Maybe I watch Raw each week and for the most part I enjoy it? Where did you get this idea that somehow I'm "just another IWC smark" who hates everything and such?

And why do you keep switching the topic? You see, at least when I call you ******ed it's in the context of the conversation that YOU started, which was "would yet another nWo run in the WWE fare well with Sting at the helm" (which is paraphrased because it took you one outlandishly long post to even get to the point you were trying to make). And, once again, on that point I'm inclined to disagree.

I think a new nWo angle in the WWE would be mostly a mistake simply because at the moment it makes no sense in the continuity and as such it would be just another stable with no real reason to tie it to the nWo name beyond Nash's possible involvement and the sake of nostalgia. Furthermore, I think the idea of bringing in Sting for this angle would be a waste for everyone involved. If Sting were to take a quick WWE run, he'd be much better suited doing so alone than as a shock member of an nWo stable that we really don't need.

If you aren't intending to respond within the context of the thread you are posting in, I suggest you go back to crying in your little corner. You clearly are not contributing anything to this conversation any more, and there are other parts of the forums where you could carry on your little anti-IWC crusade against me if you so wish (I suggest The Bar Room). Take care now, buh-bye then.

 

[SickJames]

Lolwut?



1: Yes, there is something wrong with seeing a nWo revival today featuring Sting, Nash, and Hall plus others. It would suck, it would have no proper build up or lead in, it would make no sense and it would take up time from an otherwise crowded roster.

2: Drag it out? If you're going to invest that much air time and money into getting Sting and others in for a nWo revival it better be for more that just a minute or otherwise it's that much worse of a waste of time. What are you saying here? That you'd like this just for a month or so? Wow, you really are stupid.

3: Great response, Mr. Maturity. "I'm not, YOU ARE!". You really showed me.



And you really don't see how resorting to the IWC argument and comparing me to Mark Madden is the same generic comeback made all over these forums and the main page all the damn time?

Also, lovely. Nice to see you going wildly off topic on your own thread simply because you can't actually make any valid argument so you're just going to sound off again at how it's the IWC keeping you down. You're gonna go far here, champ.



First of all you ignorant fuck, stop putting words in my mouth. I NEVER said ANY returning star is stealing the spotlight from others. Go back and fucking look up all my posts. Yeah, that's right, sit down and shut the fuck up.

Second of all, yes I've got a thing about new guys getting over; this mentality of always going for the old guys is why we've gone so long with out any new stars beyond Cena and debatably Orton. It's why ratings have gone from 5's and 6's to 2's and 3's. Instead of focusing on building up new stars THE SAME WAY STARS LIKE AUSTIN, ROCK, HHH, FOLEY, JERICHO, AND ANGLE WERE BUILT (WHICH WAS THROUGH GREAT STORY TELLING, GREAT ANGLES, AND GREAT MATCHES), WWE played it safe and kept relying on the same old rotation of old guys. Are you going to actually acknowledge that point, or are you simply going to pretend that those stars of old got over off of guys like Hogan? None of those I listed needed a Hogan, or a Nash, or a Sting to get over with. None.

Finally, I simply love how much of the irony of you calling me the IWC parrot is lost on you. You like wrestling, no? You are on the internet, right? You are a member of this community, correct? Well, guess what you are...



This isn't my thread, I don't have to come up with ideas. This is the discussion YOU started, it's not my fault that you want to quit and run away now simply because you've been embarrassed. Tell you what, if you want to see stuff that I create go look up my work in WZCW. I spend my creative energy coming up with ideas for new things and new outlets, not jacking off over Sting being the new nWo leader for no comprehensible reason.



Again, it's nice to see that your ignorance and anal sensitivity have blinded you to reality so much that you are putting words into my mouth to fit your out of touch view of the world. When did I say that everything sucks? When did I even say that anything needed fixing? Maybe, just maybe, I am quite content with how things are going in the WWE for the time being, did you ever think of that? Maybe I watch Raw each week and for the most part I enjoy it? Where did you get this idea that somehow I'm "just another IWC smark" who hates everything and such?

And why do you keep switching the topic? You see, at least when I call you ******ed it's in the context of the conversation that YOU started, which was "would yet another nWo run in the WWE fare well with Sting at the helm" (which is paraphrased because it took you one outlandishly long post to even get to the point you were trying to make). And, once again, on that point I'm inclined to disagree.

I think a new nWo angle in the WWE would be mostly a mistake simply because at the moment it makes no sense in the continuity and as such it would be just another stable with no real reason to tie it to the nWo name beyond Nash's possible involvement and the sake of nostalgia. Furthermore, I think the idea of bringing in Sting for this angle would be a waste for everyone involved. If Sting were to take a quick WWE run, he'd be much better suited doing so alone than as a shock member of an nWo stable that we really don't need.

If you aren't intending to respond within the context of the thread you are posting in, I suggest you go back to crying in your little corner. You clearly are not contributing anything to this conversation any more, and there are other parts of the forums where you could carry on your little anti-IWC crusade against me if you so wish (I suggest The Bar Room). Take care now, buh-bye then.

You said those things, it's just now the whole thread's been compiled into a monster mash up one, and I dont have to prove to you that an idea will work as if it's going to happen, but you cant just believe it wont and think that justifies your argument. You have no real argument against Sting coming into WWE

I prefer it not be nWo, this was just an idea thread that you completely missed the point of because you keep showing it everytime you state specific lines in each reply, you just dont get what it's about