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The End is near

PauLwaLL50 said:
Its funny... But disgusting at the same time... Back to topic... WWE is never going to die... They have way to many fans all around the World... Even if it dies out in America... Theres still fans all around the world...
then change the channel
 
Ashylarry said:
Angle let go, Undertaker and Kane soon to retire, rise of the shit stars Orton and Cena (granted vs. HHH, HBK, they can wrestle and hold their own but without the big stars they aint shit),Male Cheerleaders, Man in a dress,Vince mocking God, getting an assial, , HBK to get op, and upon his return to get a lesser schedule and ultimatley retire,
same ole stuff repeated over and over again, Cena tossing Edge tossing into body of water, same as Rock tossing Austin into water, spining title, UMAGA, Trish and possibly Lita leaving, Test-future ECW champion, WWE banking on Eddies death.

Its coming soon, Rise and fall of World Wrestling Entertaiment
many will disagree, saying WWE is making money, but Im looking at the big picture and that says WWE will come crashing down if they go down the route their going. Think about if WWE can have a a heel arab, kiss my ass club, live sex celebrations, which were pushing the envelope further than lets say Austin stunning the boss, so then next they will have Vinces suck my d**k club, another heel arab charecter, or return of Muhammad Hassan with a much more heel charecter, a complete anti Christian, and a live game of divas playing musical chairs, while on a bed floating on a pool, while wearing cheerleader, and school girl outfits.

RIP WWE

This is probably the most intelligent thread I have ever read on this board.
 
Ashylarry said:
Angle let go, Undertaker and Kane soon to retire, rise of the shit stars Orton and Cena (granted vs. HHH, HBK, they can wrestle and hold their own but without the big stars they aint shit),Male Cheerleaders, Man in a dress,Vince mocking God, getting an assial, , HBK to get op, and upon his return to get a lesser schedule and ultimatley retire,
same ole stuff repeated over and over again, Cena tossing Edge tossing into body of water, same as Rock tossing Austin into water, spining title, UMAGA, Trish and possibly Lita leaving, Test-future ECW champion, WWE banking on Eddies death.

Its coming soon, Rise and fall of World Wrestling Entertaiment
many will disagree, saying WWE is making money, but Im looking at the big picture and that says WWE will come crashing down if they go down the route their going. Think about if WWE can have a a heel arab, kiss my ass club, live sex celebrations, which were pushing the envelope further than lets say Austin stunning the boss, so then next they will have Vinces suck my d**k club, another heel arab charecter, or return of Muhammad Hassan with a much more heel charecter, a complete anti Christian, and a live game of divas playing musical chairs, while on a bed floating on a pool, while wearing cheerleader, and school girl outfits.

RIP WWE



Good point man. Im hopin the WWE can do something to change this and they not follow the path you are stating, but if so, o well. Bye wwe. they ned some actual good wrestlers that can carry them to break in the biz in the next few months or they are seriously scrwed.
 
Ashylarry said:
I agree with everything you wrote, yes wwe will build new stars, Hogan, Austin, Taker, were once nobodys, thats not what Im talking about its Vinces demented mind the direction hes going in for example the nixed idea of Stephanie/incest angle, yes youre right I should quit watching but I cant, tried many times, I just cant quit!

I have an opinion on the wwe slippin up. They screwin up getting good wrestlers. Prime example: How in da hell do u get some 7ft giant to come after a legend (taker) when the dude cant wrestle to save his life?? Wrestling basically sucks compared to the way ot was back in the day in my opinion. i mean, have u been toa show lately????? they clear out early, have empty seats, etc, etc. i went to the smackdown show rite before summerslam. Pretty fun, but, empty seats,etc, etc. Put is this way, lets wait and see wat happens.
 
Raw, ECW/Smackdown are sold out 95% of the time. All the PPV events sell out and even the house shows sell well. Ratings aren't that bad and merch is selling well. Until all of the above decrease dramatically the WWE will be fine.
 
I agree. WWE will be fine. As heartbroken that I am over Angle's(much needed) release, long term wise this provides someone with the opportunity to step up and show that they deserve that push. I think in the long run, Vince needs to stop meddling so much and let a creative team(on its own) come up with the concepts for the show. And Austin said it best when he stated that the business has become too formalaic. Just let the wrestlers wrestle and stop laying out every last moment of a sl ahead of time
 
WWE will evenutally realize that theres a reason it's called wrestling... and they need more of it. The fans of wrestling will keep the company afloat as the popularity wanes. It will eventually garner a larger audience again... but it's just taking a nap at the moment. Guys like Carlito, Orton, Edge, and Benjamin will carry it through, and they'll become the next big WWE guys until WWE can acquire more people. I expect to see a few stand outs on TNA's roster go to WWE for money once they realize that Jarrett isnt letting go of that belt. It's like TAZ being ECW champ. Sometimes theres just no place left to go, and the WWE will be an enticing prospect. Just wait and see... popularity will once again rise when we see guys like Samoa Joe and Alex Shelley jump over. I see Alex Shelley as a young Chris Jericho. The guy is a star in the making. and he just needs someone to nurture that. TNA has great talent... but we still get old timers like Sting, Jarrett, Nash.. etc shoved in our faces. Until they use their brains, theyr'e not going to be taken serioulsy.

Also, I don't undertand what you guys see in Kennedy. I think that guy is lame as all hell... the next val venis.
 
have you watched any of kennedy's matches? i have a feeling that kennedy can become as popular as the rock.
 
I dont know... The Rock was never a very good wrestler. Same old shit every time. Great entertainer... but I wouldnt call a comarison the The Rock, a good thing
 
Ashylarry said:
Angle let go, Undertaker and Kane soon to retire, rise of the shit stars Orton and Cena (granted vs. HHH, HBK, they can wrestle and hold their own but without the big stars they aint shit),Male Cheerleaders, Man in a dress,Vince mocking God, getting an assial, , HBK to get op, and upon his return to get a lesser schedule and ultimatley retire,
same ole stuff repeated over and over again, Cena tossing Edge tossing into body of water, same as Rock tossing Austin into water, spining title, UMAGA, Trish and possibly Lita leaving, Test-future ECW champion, WWE banking on Eddies death.

Its coming soon, Rise and fall of World Wrestling Entertaiment
many will disagree, saying WWE is making money, but Im looking at the big picture and that says WWE will come crashing down if they go down the route their going. Think about if WWE can have a a heel arab, kiss my ass club, live sex celebrations, which were pushing the envelope further than lets say Austin stunning the boss, so then next they will have Vinces suck my d**k club, another heel arab charecter, or return of Muhammad Hassan with a much more heel charecter, a complete anti Christian, and a live game of divas playing musical chairs, while on a bed floating on a pool, while wearing cheerleader, and school girl outfits.

RIP WWE

I give you been smoking too much it's not gonna die not for a long time
 
The End is Near...Have you been smoking something we should know about?
 
wwe wil not die....i went to a live show in my town last nite ...it was awesome...jeff hardy, carlito, and nitro in a triple threat matc...dx took on viscera, spirit squad and umaga and killed em all, and edge screwed cena...it was awesome seeing my childhood heroes dx for the first time live...
 
The only way i can really see the wwe getting better is if they have some one competing against theme in the ratings and tna dont have the cash to be able to achieve this.

wrestling is gonna stay this way until tna either gets a cash boost to compete with wwe

so get used to the same old boring sh!t cause u know u r gonna watch it anyway
 
Ok that pisses me off. Get your facts straight, HBK isn't lessening his schedule since he just got a new money deal, WWE isn't banking on Eddies death, and Vince does stuff like that because he is a HEEL, someone people is supposed to hate. Who are you to say RIP WWE? You obviously know nothing about the buisness, so why dont u go to some disney channel forums, and leave this since its "so bad"
 
Cena will make it big even if he cant wrestle...WWE doesnt care..Its not up to the fans..We can hate him all we want but WWE will die to TNA if they go to war..The new gen of WWE wont due well if they cant wrestle...Alot of new gen wrestlers tho can keep the biz alive...But Undertaker barely shows up so if he leaves it really wouldnt matter..He only does like 3 or 4 feuds a year and one of em is wrestlemania where he only does to add someone else to his undefeated streak...If kane leaves it wouldnt make a big impact because WWE isnt even doing anything big with him...When was the last time he had a shot with the World title..Yeah at New Years Revolution i believe but we all new he wouldnt win it..unless they do something big with him except for letting him job to Umaga then him leaving wont make big impact at all...Because if he stays they wont do anything big with him...WWE has money but there wasting it..Why cant it be like WWF?I mean they just changed the name..They dont have to change the whole format..TNA is the place to go now..They may not have much btu what ever they put up is great..They always put up PPV calibur matches on their show...WWE used to do it but now Vince is getting greedy..Their ppv's arent that great anymore either...They brought back ECW but its not liek it will help...Heyan does have power yes but not only that can help it even if it does do good in these couple of weeks...The fact is the ony shows i like to watch from WWE is SD! and ECW but not RAW..I think Vince should just retire...I mean he makes stuff worse...he should bring back Bischoff atleast then RAW was good..I was actually happy when bischoff got kafabe fired...Because i thought RAW would get a new GM right away and didnt know Vicne would come back and get more involved with WWE...I think he should let the creative team do their show without him fucking stuff up..I mean he barely goes to SD! show and if he does its for ECW and look how great SD! is doing with out him..They ahev great wrestling..He shows up and messes up every thing..The only REASON I keep watching is for the hope that it will be better...Hopefully when vince names a new GM RAW will be better ut right now tna seems better than WWE and as soon as it gets two hours which will be soon WWE will have to watch out...The fact is As soona s tna and WWe goes to war You will see how fast WWe will get good just for ratings then if they win after the war they will suck again if theres a war and if there is i doubt they will win but gain just because a few ppl stop watching it wont kill WWE...It will take alot more than that and alot of wwe marks wont stop watching it...
 
As much as I like TNA they wouldn't win a war against WWE now. They have a lot of work to do still before they can actually have a war against WWE, and it would be many years before it happens.
 
wrestlefan204 said:
Orton, Kennedy, Cena, Hardy, Edge

They can keep wrestling alive. Hopefully.

yeah, minus Cena...in case u havent noticed : He cant wrestle!
 
like most of you guys have already said WWE will never die
also like many people said its going through one of those transitional stages right now, once WWE gets it that Smackdown cant hold its share and combine the brands again i think thats a major step in the right direction
what WWE also needs to do is redevolped its tag team division.
heres what i think they should do if they reunite the brands
Elimate SD Tag Team Championship
Elimate ECW all together unless Vince or whoever owns it can bring a REAL ECW feel to there shows
Redevelope there Tag Team Divsion and Crusierweight divison
GIVE PUSHES TO YOUNG TALENT LIKE ORTON, KENNEDY, CARLTO. etc NOT HULK HOGAN!!!
Either have more competive Diva matches or elimate the title altogther because it is really pointless right now
More realistic storylines...i can deal with a couple of weird guys like kevin thorn or taker but guys like the spirt squad and eugene
have more matches the fans want like hell in the cell, tlc, casket...and take some big bumps like mankind off the cell or hardys goin through tables.
be conterversial...conterversey=more viewers=better ratings=more people buying tickets


the key to the attitude era was easy: short matches, backstage vignettes, and shocking television
 
cmiller9291 said:
rvd and sabu r not the future. sabu is 42 and rvd is 35. you ppl who think the end is near and tna will take over r complete morons. wwe has unlimited resources and if they r pushed they can do whatever they need to so you can bank on wwe for staying for decades to come.

I never said it was going anywhere but it is certainly going to get into a slump!!

WCW had unlimited resources and look where they ended up!!
 
The WWE is not dead. It's without question dying. It's a sink ship. It's circling the drain. There's possibility with Orton and Hardy and a few others. Edge, regardless of holding the world title which has become a disgrace and a joke and the World Heavyweight title which is basically the WCW belt and was handed to Triple H on a platter, is not big enough to carry that company. Neither is Cena clearly and Kurt Angle was one of their heavy hitters and is now gone. Kane and Taker are on their way out. Khali they hoped would be big but he isn't.


As I had said in another post, wrestling has no future with the WWE and the WWE's only future is feeling the same fate as WCW
 

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