To be honest, I never thought much of Chavo Guerrero, even back in the WCW days. Sure, he's a good wrestler, but it's a simple fact that he doesn't have the charisma that his uncle Eddie had. Sadly, some of the criticism of Chavo may be because some people think that whatever attention he has received was due to Eddie opening doors for him. (I can't judge how fair an assessment that is; all I know is that we have never seen a PPV headed by a Chavo Guerrero match.)
The biggest myth in wrestling-"burying someone"
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To be honest, I never thought much of Chavo Guerrero, even back in the WCW days. Sure, he's a good wrestler, but it's a simple fact that he doesn't have the charisma that his uncle Eddie had. Sadly, some of the criticism of Chavo may be because some people think that whatever attention he has received was due to Eddie opening doors for him. (I can't judge how fair an assessment that is; all I know is that we have never seen a PPV headed by a Chavo Guerrero match.)
OYDK
King Of The Ring
Ahhhh don't you miss the days when the IWC actually knew what a mark was and what burying actually meant? All I see on these threads is people calling others a mark like it's the worst thing in the world and complaining about people like Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, and Bray Wyatt being "buried". You want to see a burial? Go back and watch what WWE did to the Ultimo Dragon and DDP... Guys who could actually wrestle and connect with the crowd but were shit on because one couldn't speak English very well and one was a top player for the enemy. Want another example? Paul London and Brian Kendrick.
The difference between these guys and somebody like Zack Ryder is Ryder is just complete shit while these guys actually had a lot of talent. Sorry for the rant but I can't stand when somebody thinks they know everything because they post on a wrestling forum.
The difference between these guys and somebody like Zack Ryder is Ryder is just complete shit while these guys actually had a lot of talent. Sorry for the rant but I can't stand when somebody thinks they know everything because they post on a wrestling forum.
whoopin' ass
Championship Contender
OHHHYOUDIDNTKNOW brings up an interesting point in that wwe has a history of bringing in people with some name recognition and then doing absolutely nothing with them. What's the point of having them?
As for connecting with the fans, that is a matter of perception. Because Cena was willing to do whatever wwe asked him to do, he got a push. Cena was not always cheered but it was when they put him in The Marine that they turned him face. But how much of that was for the character and how much was because he had the wwe machine behind him? Shelton Benjamin never connected with the fans?? He seemed to do well connecting with them outside the wwe. His problem was he was a wrestler and a damn good one and that is a bad thing in wwe right now. Had they put 1/10 the effort behind him that they put behind Cena, he would have been a success as there are still fans like myself who want more of a wrestling match than what we see today. It isn't a matter of connecting with the fans, it is a matter of connecting with wwe management so they will get behind you.
As for connecting with the fans, that is a matter of perception. Because Cena was willing to do whatever wwe asked him to do, he got a push. Cena was not always cheered but it was when they put him in The Marine that they turned him face. But how much of that was for the character and how much was because he had the wwe machine behind him? Shelton Benjamin never connected with the fans?? He seemed to do well connecting with them outside the wwe. His problem was he was a wrestler and a damn good one and that is a bad thing in wwe right now. Had they put 1/10 the effort behind him that they put behind Cena, he would have been a success as there are still fans like myself who want more of a wrestling match than what we see today. It isn't a matter of connecting with the fans, it is a matter of connecting with wwe management so they will get behind you.
That's not why they buried DDP. Look at Booker T, he was a major player in the WCW at the end and he went on to have a solid WWE run. Page's problem was that he rubbed The Undertaker the wrong way. Kanyon talked about it in his shoot interview.
I do agree with the rest of what you said though.
Shelton Benjamin connected with fans outside of WWE because the majority of wrestling fans outside of the WWE don't care about promo skills. Benjamin couldn't cut a promo, that's what hindered him with the WWE fanbase. And that's funny because those same fans are now in the corner of a guy who can't cut a promo to save his life.