The attitude era ruined wrestling

Oh Norcal, you are so close but yet so far away.

That Attitude Era could have been better with better booking, same as today.

You seem to have a moral disagreement with the direction of the product, but that is a completely different thing.

The "attitude" has nothing to do with the weakening of the tag team and intercontinental divisions.

The "attitude" has nothing to do with poor booking either.

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

The ratings today are still higher than the ratings prior to the Attitude Era. Meaning, for each traditional fan that was driven away, another was created.

It is true that half of the fanbase disappeared altogether, but they'll be back. The diehards are still there, it is the sheep that moved on. When wrestling is "cool" again, and the cyclical nature of the business seems to dictate it will be "cool" again, these people will be back. And when that boom is over, they'll be gone again. Thats how it goes.
 
I always found and will always find the attitude era as the very best wrestling era. Not because we had Debra show the puppies or Crucifixion or Mae young whatever.....it just was much more entertaining....specially compared to the last couple of years. It was fun.....I found it fun as a teen, still find it fun as an adult.
Stone Cold symbolized the attitude era.......his gimmick is all based around the concept. And it DID saved the company, many people acknowledged that, including since. End of 97, WWF was at the bottom of the barrel, Stone Cold as WWF champ help putting WWF back on track...that`s a fact. And why was the fans attracted to Stone Cold? Answer is his over the edge gimmick.

NOW, that being said, so do have some points. Some of the things were absolutely unnecessary. You`ve mentioned Mae Yong, there are other for sure.

But to say attitude era has ruined wrestling is absolute BS to me. If I had to compare wrestling before and after the attitude era, my first reaction is that things has improved A LOT.
 
The attitude Era was nothing but a last ditch effort for the WWE to stay in business by a desperate business man that got sidetracked during the mid 90's with his own steroid trial. When he was done with the trial, the wrestling world had passed him by and he was a relic in his own business.

WCW was beating the WWE because they did it the right way. The did exactly what the WWE did to everyone else, raided their talent, got a better TV Deal, and gave the results away. It's the same shady business tactics that Vince used to dominate the business, and it came back to smack him right in the face. So what does Vince do. He recreates his own image. Instead of being the asshole business man that put how many territories out of business, he was the small, all American business man that was up against an evil multi-media conglomerate in Ted Turner and Time Warner. Now if you can be done with sniffing that bullshit, you may continue.

The WWE's problem was it's inability to make stars in the post Hogan era. Instead of caving in to the likes of Hogan, McMahon should have been the boss and said, Hogan, you're putting over Bret Hart, and that's final. Instead, Hogan puts over Yoko, which no one gives a damn about, and vacates the premises, succesfully handing the torch to no one, an dthe company left with a huge void up top.

No one cared about Bret or Shawn Michaels. It's the blunt, harsh truth that those fans need to realize, and with those two at the helm, the WWE nearly went under. WCW wasn't fairing much better, but they decided to get with the times, or do something fucking drastic. WCW turned Hogan heel, re-capturing the fan base that grew up watching the man. What was the WWE doing, nothing. They had a pretty boy as champion that no one could relate to, or no one cared about, your choice.

So the momentum of WCW continued to grow, while the WWE took a backseat to them. The attitude and rebellious nature of the NWO was growing by leaps and bounds, capturing that teenage audience that was doing the same exact thing in their own lives.onThen luck happened to stumble upon the WWE, a man named Steve Austin.

Austin had been gaining momentum after the Coronation speech at KotR 96, and Austin 3:16 was born. As the business grew thanks to Hogan and the N.W.O., more people would begin to flip over and watch WWE just to see how it was doing. Stone Cold was attracting his own fan base by simply acting like himself. 1997 became a great year for the WWE as their product got more edgy, but not over the top, and 1997 became a phenomenal year creative wise for both companies.

Then what happened, Stone Cold reached megastardom, Michaels got injured, and the main event level was virtually empty. When Austin won the belt at Mania, only he and Taker were the guys that held the title in the company, that's it, only two guys that were world champion in one company. So what does the WWE do, they decide, well Austin was good, lets have everyone be over the top, and it simply flood and over saturated the market, and turned 1998 into one of the most boring years for the WWE creatively.

Great feuds like the Harts vs. Insert name here were replaced by guys getting their pee pees chopped off, porn stars sleeping with people's wives, Drunk wrestlers driving zamboni's to the ring, a guy hunting his boss and making him pee his pants in the ring, the eventual feeding of one mans dog to the man, the dragging of a man's fathers casket at his funeral, the birth of a plastic hand, all of this stupid bullshit. Yeah, it worked, the WWE got their ratings, but guess what, it attracted a crowd of nothing but half witted dipshits that didn't give on flying fuck about the business. These were the same people that are now responsible with the over saturation of reality TV that we see flooded on our televisions today. The Jerry Springer crowd that only gave a damn about seeings someones tits because they wouldn't be able to do that in their own lives.

So WCW goes under because Vince Russo decides to do the same thing when he moves down south, except no one is buying that bullshit anymore. Russo unchecked essentially is the death nail of the business as we know it, placing titles on guys like David Arquette, and himself. So in a monopoly, you expect the WWE to have ridiculus ratings, absorbing the entire fan base of both companies, plus ECW, yet it didn't happen. Why, because those fans didn't give one shit about wrestling.

The ratings eventually fell back to what they were, pre-attitude. Why, because the WWE absolutely failed to make any of those fans wrestling fans that started watching. Why, because the WWE failed to do anything as far as creating quality wrestlers from that Era. Who became a star in the Attitude Era that lasted in the business, maybe one man Triple H. That's it. Edge debuted in that era, so he might be the only developmental guy that survived. It took the class of 2002 OVW to turn this business around, and at least lay the foundation for what we are seeing today.
 
TBH I'd take certain elemtns of the Attitude Era over what we have now - people like Too Cool and Right to Censor were mroe over than a lot of the high ranking guys right now - I don't know what to put that down to but at the end of the day, when Scotty 2 Hotty is getting louder pops than former World Heaveyweight Champion CM Punk, you know something was better back then...
 
I don't know what they was thinking when they started the attitude era. It might of been a new thing on Wrestling but it wasn't anywhere different then what happens in real life.

I know so many people, who stopped watching the Wrestling during the attitude era and have only just started watching it again now. They was too busy foccusing on the Older generations and how they had oh so Changed that they forgot that the majority of wrestling fans are younger then that. Take a look at this forum for instance. There isnt that many over the age of 25. (compared to how many there is that are younger)

People bitch about the PG Era we are in at the moment. When Other then some of the stupid things that the WWE have done, Is turning the buisness into better then it was back then.

THe WWE are slowly rebuilding from the ashes that was brought down by the attitude Era.
 
it was the most entertaining period by far. this kiddy stuff now bores me out. but then again even todays pg stuff is still risquier than pre 1995 stuff.
 
Here's a suggestion.

Why doesn't the WWE do both? That way we can all be happy.


Raw- edgy show, tacking controversial themes ... some controversial characters ... rated TV14.

Smackdown- completely representing the same type of programming you see today. Go after the kids, but something so that all age groups can enjoy, if you don't mind the lack of cursing, lack of controversial storyline elements, etc.

ECW- a specialized wrestling product with a specific theme ... such as either Hardcore wrestling per the original ECW OR a 100% Cruiserweight Brand.

I have yet to hear one logical explanation from anyone on why WWE can not do both. And to say that a remotely competent PR and Marketing team couldn't portray the message to the public is untrue.

If WCW, WWE, and ECW all survived at one point, which they did, there is zero reason why we can not have both.

And if fans of today's wrestling who are ditching the Attitude Era want to claim that more people enjoy today's style of wrestling than the Crash TV style of Monday Night programming, that isn't true at all. Even post Attitude Era, after Austin and Rock left, ratings were still consistently higher than they are today.
 
I've watched wrestling for as long as I could remember. I was a big fan of the old school style of the 80s. I loved the differences between WCW and WWE and each one did something different that made me like each of them. The problem is that the 1990s were a different time and everyone's attituded, in general, was different than it had been 10 years earlier. The cookie cutter idea of good guy vs. bad guy had grown old and stale. One dimensional heroes, like Hulk Hogan, that attempted to be a cross between Captain America and Superman or bad guys that were more at home on a Saturday morning cartoon show didn't make people stand up and take notice. They were great for their time, but their time came and went.

An edge was needed, edgier storylines and edgier characters were needed. I loved and still do love the older stuff, but wrestling had to change. WCW had taken many of the WWF's biggest names and was, quite frankly, trying to do the exact same thing that the WWF was doing and they were doing it better. So, the WWF had to do something they hadn't done before. By the time I was 16, I loved the idea of hearing some foul mouthed Texas redneck actually mocking a passage from the Bible. After that, hearing some 45 year old man in a red and yellow bandana preach to me about eating my vitamins and saying my prayers simply couldn't compete. For me, the Attitude era re-energized my interest. The age of the anti-hero had come to pro wrestling.
 

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