Speculation Regarding the Death of Chris Benoit

boy you guys are some real detectives, Beniot is guilty as charged, he killed a seven year old child, and his mother, then the weak bastard killed himself. Get real. Just kidding I like the sullivan relating. I'm holding out for something to clear Benoit's name. But think about this, if someone else is responsible for this, then Benoit had to watch as all of it unfolded. Thats a messed up way to have to go.
 
boy you guys are some real detectives, Beniot is guilty as charged, he killed a seven year old child, and his mother, then the weak bastard killed himself. Get real. Just kidding I like the sullivan relating. I'm holding out for something to clear Benoit's name. But think about this, if someone else is responsible for this, then Benoit had to watch as all of it unfolded. Thats a messed up way to have to go.


Well beaner the linking was brought up by Fox News. And Im glad I finally met the person that was there durring the incident. All of the thoughts and theories have just been cleared up. HEY EVERYONE BEANER WAS AT THE BENOIT HOUSE. HE SAW EVERYTHING. NOW WE CAN SLEEP BETTER KNOWING WE HAVE AN EYE WITNESS. ALL OF THE UNKNOWN AWNSERS THAT HAVE NO EXPLANATION HAVE BEEN SOLVED BY THE BEANSTER.

Hey jeremy, ive been looking i see no story.
 
whats up doc?

Regardless i can't wait for this to end, this doesn't hold well for the WWE, but on the lighter side, if all this keeps up it would be good time to buy WWE Stock. YOu know regardless WWE will make a recovery.
 
whats up doc?

Regardless i can't wait for this to end, this doesn't hold well for the WWE, but on the lighter side, if all this keeps up it would be good time to buy WWE Stock. YOu know regardless WWE will make a recovery.

hey thats not a bad Idea. The stock did plumit and it will bounce back. Sorry about the sarcasm. Im throwing ideas out there in the scepticism room and you get a bunch of jerks that just want to be right in the worst way that just want to call you crazy when they have no idea even when the police say they are not releasing everything just yet. I tent to get a bit defensive when called an idiot over and over. instead of someone saying ....that could happen I guess. My bad.

Jeremy????? Still waiting for that interview buddy. looked all over the net and the news stations. Havent heard of anything yet. Is there really a sullivan interview?
 
Well beaner the linking was brought up by Fox News. And Im glad I finally met the person that was there durring the incident. All of the thoughts and theories have just been cleared up. HEY EVERYONE BEANER WAS AT THE BENOIT HOUSE. HE SAW EVERYTHING. NOW WE CAN SLEEP BETTER KNOWING WE HAVE AN EYE WITNESS. ALL OF THE UNKNOWN AWNSERS THAT HAVE NO EXPLANATION HAVE BEEN SOLVED BY THE BEANSTER.

Hey jeremy, ive been looking i see no story.

roflmao I thought this guy was calling him a beaner like a racist term for a hispanic person then I realized that's the dude's name, lol, I was like "WTF?!" you had me goin' there Doc xD

As for this case, I'm pretty much certain Benoit did it. Some really drastic new evidence would have to be revealed to make me think any differently. I'm not saying someone else didn't do it, because honestly there are such things as a perfect crime and they've happened before, but if someone else did do it they are one fuckin' huge CSI type genius. One can only hope in the future Benoit's name will be cleared, though honestly I doubt it. The authorities are pretty much done investigating this case, and like Shocky & Shadow said, that is a damn shame. But we have to look at it from the point of view of the cops---I mean, I'm not saying its right, but why would they investigate more? They've got their answers, they can close the case and move on instead of focusing on this media circus. I doubt the police want to spend all the extra time and effort to investigate every possibility, and you can't exactly blame them. Sure, it'd be nice to have a full investigation, but I think we all want that so much because of how close we were mentally to Benoit. If it was any other Joe Schmo, I doubt anyone here would be demanding a full investigation or even questioning what the police found.
 
Also, I don't know if anyone posted this already, but apparently the Wikipedia thing has been explained. Taken from WrestleZone news...

The following is from Wikipedia.com:

The anonymous individual responsible for suggesting, 14 hours before police discovered the body, that WWE wrestler Chris Benoit's wife was dead is confessing, saying his/her comment was a "terrible coincidence."

The anonymous editor left a lengthy apology to the Wikimedia community, explaining, "I hope this puts an end to this speculation that someone knew about the tragedy before it was discovered."

Below is the full, unedited apology:

"... Hey everyone. I am here to talk about the wikipedia comment that was left by myself. I just want to say that it was an incredible coincidence. Last weekend, I had heard about Chris Benoit no showing Vengeance because of a family emergency, and I had heard rumors about why that was. I was reading rumors and speculation about this matter online, and one of them included that his wife may have passed away, and I did the wrong thing by posting it on wikipedia to spite there being no evidence. I posted my speculation on the situation at the time and I am deeply sorry about this, and I was just as shocked as everyone when I heard that this actually would happen in real life. It is one of those things that just turned into a huge coincidence. That night I found out that what I posted, ended up actually happening, a 1 in 10,000 chance of happening, or so I thought. I was beyond wrong for posting wrongful information, and I am sorry to everyone for this. I just want everyone to know it was stupid of me, and I will never do anything like this again. I just posted something that was at that time a piece of wrong unsourced information that is typical on wikipedia, as it is done all the time.

Nonetheless, I feel incredibly bad for all the attention this got because of the fact that what I said turned out to be the truth. Like I said it was just a major coincidence, and I will never vandalize anything on wikipedia or post wrongful information. I've learned from this experience. I just can't believe what I wrote was actually the case, I've remained stunned and saddened over it.

I wish not to reveal my identity so I can keep me and my family out of this since they have nothing to do with anything. I am not connected to WWE or Benoit at all in anyway. I am from Stamford as the IP address shows, and I am just an everyday individual who posted a wrongful remark at the time that received so much attention because it turned out to actually happen. I will say again I didn't know anything about the Benoit tragedy, it was a terrible coincidence that I never saw coming.

I hope this puts an end to this speculation that someone knew about the tragedy before it was discovered. It was just a rumor that I had heard about from other people online who were speculating what the family emergency Chris was attending to. I made a big mistake by posting this comment on his page, since all we had were what we thought was going on and nothing about what actually was going on yet, and sadly what happened turned out to be my speculation at the time. I assumed wiki would edit out my information, which they did, so thats why I didn't go back to edit it out myself.

I know I keep repeating it but I feel terrible about the mainstream coverage this has received, since it was only a huge coincidence and a terrible event that should of never happened. I am not sure how to react, as hearing about my message becoming a huge part of the Benoit slayings made me feel terrible as everyone believes that it is connected to the tragedy, but it was just an awful coincidence. That is all I have to say, I will never post anything here again unless it is pure fact, no spam nothing like that. Thank you, and let this end this chapter of the Benoit story, and hopefully one day we will find out why this tragedy ever actually happened."

So that explains that, atleast to a degree. It'd be nice for him not to be anonymous, but you can understand why he would be---why would you want the cops knocking down your door for a murder investigation? I know I wouldn't.
 
The wikipedia confession doesn't seem to explain anything really...the person had to make one of two choices: 1. either confess that he did it and say it was a mistake, or 2. don't say anything and wait for the cops to show up at his door. He chose #1. Now, it could be a big coincidence, but it seems like it's one coincidence too many. Being from Stamford takes it over the top for me. Who knows though..crazy stuff.
 
Well, I'm not online 24/7, so that's too bad that you had to wait for the interview. Here's what I could find on it. That has a couple quotes from Sullivan.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286848,00.html

Does anybody have the extended interview or alternate link? I know for a fact I read in an article that Sullivan had a witness and alibi and this article only seems to quote just a couple lines from Sullivan.

But what we do know is that Sullivan was in Florida and it would be easy to tell if he was gone the whole weekend and had travelled to Atlanta. Surely his new wife would have been a little suspicious if Kevin had disappeared the whole weekend during the Benoit deaths, wouldn't you think
 
I dont think Benoit would do such a thing. I want to know where Chavos whereabouts were on the the weekend of those events. Chavo is always the last person to have talked to the person before they died. It just seems fishy that if Benoit is a private preson then why would Chavo be around his family on an invitation according to the Monday Night Raw tribute tapes. Why did he say he was close to his family and "dogs?" I also wanna know what flight Benoit made and Chavo missed when he talked about it on the Tribute. Heres what I think. Benoit came home and discovered his family died and he killed himself. I want to know where Chavo was on his timeline of events. It just seems weird. It also seems weird that Eddies wife is on Smackdown so quickly. Its just fishy. Do you think Chavo could have done this because maybe he is jealous. Maybe Chavos angry. Benoit was at the top of his game for Gods sake. I think Chavo did it.
 
Dude...come on now. Chavo Guerrero? Benoit was his best friend! Why the hell would he kill the man that he bonded so much with after Eddie's death? I've heard some crazy ideas, but that by far is the most insane. Oh and Benoit missed his flight and Chavo made his, not the other way around. I understand the skepticism, but Jesus Christ man, Chavo Guerrero? Who next, Dean Malenko? Chris Jericho?
 
Chavo murdered Benoit's family? If you're going to go with a conspiracy theory, stick with Kevin Sullivan. I don't blame you for trying to find alternate explanations, but let's not start getting carried away.
 
roflmao I thought this guy was calling him a beaner like a racist term for a hispanic person then I realized that's the dude's name, lol, I was like "WTF?!" you had me goin' there Doc xD

As for this case, I'm pretty much certain Benoit did it. Some really drastic new evidence would have to be revealed to make me think any differently. I'm not saying someone else didn't do it, because honestly there are such things as a perfect crime and they've happened before, but if someone else did do it they are one fuckin' huge CSI type genius. One can only hope in the future Benoit's name will be cleared, though honestly I doubt it. The authorities are pretty much done investigating this case, and like Shocky & Shadow said, that is a damn shame. But we have to look at it from the point of view of the cops---I mean, I'm not saying its right, but why would they investigate more? They've got their answers, they can close the case and move on instead of focusing on this media circus. I doubt the police want to spend all the extra time and effort to investigate every possibility, and you can't exactly blame them. Sure, it'd be nice to have a full investigation, but I think we all want that so much because of how close we were mentally to Benoit. If it was any other Joe Schmo, I doubt anyone here would be demanding a full investigation or even questioning what the police found.

You are right. Of all the wrestlers, him and gurerro were the 2 i had the most respect for. Im not trying to grasp for straws. I just heard the sullivan link on Fox and put a story together that actually made sence with all the unawnsered questions. You have to admit it fits all the unawnsered questions into a hostage murder senirio easier than saying, wow why did he do that that was weird. I just feel the text messages the boose around the house, the fact Nancy was tied up, the fact daniel was killed all look as if someone else did this. Not just chris was called home randomly and went crazy hours after he came home. That just sounds too simple. And the Media trying to make it seem steroid related is just rediculas. Steroids create rage for a minuite or two. just like if you are a smoker and dont have one for a few hours. Its not like Acid or x. You know what you are doing on Steroids. It doesnt make you rage for 3 days.
 
Well, I'm not online 24/7, so that's too bad that you had to wait for the interview. Here's what I could find on it. That has a couple quotes from Sullivan.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286848,00.html

Does anybody have the extended interview or alternate link? I know for a fact I read in an article that Sullivan had a witness and alibi and this article only seems to quote just a couple lines from Sullivan.

But what we do know is that Sullivan was in Florida and it would be easy to tell if he was gone the whole weekend and had travelled to Atlanta. Surely his new wife would have been a little suspicious if Kevin had disappeared the whole weekend during the Benoit deaths, wouldn't you think

Hey Jeremy, First thank you for the link but I have to admit. Sullivans awnsers are bullshit. He claims not to know Benoit personally. But Benoit was the reason Sullivan got fired from WCW. He also did a long LONG run with him in WCW. And the fact the guy married his ex wife. Im Still not saying he is guilty but His awnsers in the interview seem like lies to me.

Ok thank you Jeremy. It also brought something else to the table i didn't know.

Get this, Sullivan Lost his job from WCW because of Benoit.
-Nancy(dead) left Sullivan and divorced him for Benoit.
- Sullivan was married to sensational Sheri. (Dead)
- Sullivan now runs a gym in Florida while Benoit makes $500,000 a year and still on top after all this time. (jeliously)
You cant say there would be no motive.
 
Think about it. Would you be on Smackdown after Eddie Died. Chavo did miss his flight and Benoit made his. My friend has the tribute on tape.Chavo said something about his dogs. Chris left him in with his family and his dogs. I just dont think.If Beoit was flying home on Saturday according to Mr. Mcmahon where was Chavo when he missed his flight. Chavo looks guilty. His tribute seemed the weirdest to me.
 
Without a shadow of a doubt, med examiners on the scene observed body temps and decomposition that proved she did die first. Everyone needs to stop questioning what professionals tell us. It leads to speculation. You will end up like this mystery wiki editor, who went along with rumors he had heard, and went and posted it on Wiki. In one crazt coincidence, it ended up happening a little later.

The last time I checked this was a speculation thread,
anyways back to the subject, I think it's better to wait for ALL of the facts than pass early judgment and regret it.
 
The wikipedia confession doesn't seem to explain anything really...the person had to make one of two choices: 1. either confess that he did it and say it was a mistake, or 2. don't say anything and wait for the cops to show up at his door. He chose #1. Now, it could be a big coincidence, but it seems like it's one coincidence too many. Being from Stamford takes it over the top for me. Who knows though..crazy stuff.

it also seems that this guy could have apologized becasue he was scared of the cops or made up the excuse that it was a coincidence becasue he knew about something before it happend. Alot of webpages and such are speculating that Chavo knew something.
 
it also seems that this guy could have apologized becasue he was scared of the cops or made up the excuse that it was a coincidence becasue he knew about something before it happend. Alot of webpages and such are speculating that Chavo knew something.

And remember the person that reported it was annonomous. But did know something. The person who confessed was annonomous and could be someone completely different.
 
I'm sure Wikimedia would have verified the IP address to make sure it was the same person or that it was at least from the same computer. I doubt they're completely stupid and I'm sure they'd hate to make such a stupid mistake. Like I said before, I believe them when they say it was just an unlucky guess.
 
Chavo did it. He looked guilty on the tribute. It felt crazy to me and little fishy that Benoit a private man would let innocent Chavo in his home to see his family and his "DOGS."WHY COMPLIMENT ABOUT HIS FAMILY AND HIS DOGS? PLUS Chavo missed his flight and Benoit made his flight according to the tribute. That seems fishy.What was Chavos timeline between these horrific events. Also why would Eddies wife be on Smackdown. It just seems fishy. I think Chavo killed Benoits family and Eddie. He just seems guilty. Benoit is at the top of his game. I cant see him doing that.
 
Wow people just need to get over it. Benoit did it and that's that. It all makes sense, the facts all point to Benoit. What else do you need? It was obvious that his son was mentally ******ed. It was a rare condition and is said to cause problems within families. It tears families apart. Benoit and his wife argued for years and years about what to do and how to take care of the kid. It even got to the point where she had to file for divorce and a restraining order because Benoit was becoming violent toward her. For some reason, later she dropped it. Maybe Benoit scared her into doing it or he promised he would change or something. Who knows.

Several including Chris Jericho have already said that Benoit probably had some kind of mental illness that was well hidden. My guess is he had psychosis; he was a psychopath like I've said. Everyone has said that he was always a little quiet and weird. It took all these years and he finally snapped. Perhaps it was roid rage mixed with his mental illness or alcohol ( 10 beer cans found near his body) or a combination of all. I know from experience that beer can make people extremely violent. Mental illness mixed with drugs and anger, I'm not surprised that something like this happened.

People just need to stop acting like this was some perfectly masterminded crime. You guys need to stop watching so much CSI. Seriously. That's why I hate CSI because of how people can do this. Benoit wasn't some kind of high profile figure. He wasn't a top government official or anything. He was just a professional wrestler. Usually only high profile figures are killed in this manner. Not a professional wrestler. It's very unlikely that Chavo or Sullivan or anyone else was able to come up with a crime like this.

Benoit was a sick man who needed help and unfortunately didn't get it and this is what happened because of it. Get over it and face the facts and stop coming up with all these conspiracy theories.
 
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Wow people just need to get over it. Benoit did it and that's that. It all makes sense, the facts all point to Benoit. What else do you need? It was obvious that his son was mentally ******ed. It was a rare condition and is said to cause problems within families. It tears families apart. Benoit and his wife argued for years and years about what to do and how to take care of the kid. It even got to the point where she had to file for divorce and a restraining order because Benoit was becoming violent toward her. For some reason, later she dropped it. Maybe Benoit scared her into doing it or he promised he would change or something. Who knows.

Several including Chris Jericho have already said that Benoit probably had some kind of mental illness that was well hidden. My guess is he had psychosis; he was a psychopath like I've said. Everyone has said that he was always a little quiet and weird. It took all these years and he finally snapped. Perhaps it was roid rage mixed with his mental illness or alcohol ( 10 beer cans found near his body) or a combination of all. I know from experience that beer can make people extremely violent. Mental illness mixed with drugs and anger, I'm not surprised that something like this happened.

People just need to stop acting like this was some perfectly masterminded crime. You guys need to stop watching so much CSI. Seriously. That's why I hate CSI because of how people can do this. Benoit wasn't some kind of high profile figure. He wasn't a top government official or anything. He was just a professional wrestler. Usually only high profile figures are killed in this manner. Not a professional wrestler. It's very unlikely that Chavo or Sullivan or anyone else was able to come up with a crime like this.

Benoit was a sick man who needed help and unfortunately didn't get it and this is what happened because of it. Get over it and face the facts and stop coming up with all these conspiracy theories.

We are not in denile we are trying to make sence of the things that dont.

It all makes sence????? Nothing in this entire story makes sence. Just a professional wrestler???? Your right he performed for millions of people weekly. just some shlub wrestler.

Jerico said what he said because he is accused of killing his family. Of course he is going to say he must of had mental issues. And if you actually read on here we are facing the facts. Thats the mystery the facts do not make sence. All in all we should wait until the toxology report will make it official. if Benoit had anything in his system that might of made him drousy or druged then the door is opened agian.

BTW Its called Speculation Reguarding the death of Chris Benoit. Thats the room name. what do you think we should talk about in here. Im a hell of a backgammon player, would that be interesting for you?

By the way. I have read and read about sheri's death. Does anyone know the toxology report on her? All I have read is where she was when she died?
 
The Kevin Sullivan thing is very interesting, that's the first person I thought of. I know it's just a book, but remember the Count of Monte Cristo, the guy laid in wait to take his revenge for many years. Whose to say Sullivan didn't. I don't think he did, but I'll go along with the theory. 2 of his ex's, even though I'm not sure how serious Sherri and Sullivan were, dead within a week of each other.

So the next thing that's going to come out is... Benoit and Nancy were into bondage, this explains why she was tied up. Both got really drunk, hence the beer and wine, Nancy slipped during sex, hit her head, and fell down, tangling herself on loose wiring. Benoit, distraught by this, keeps drinking without calling the cops, then decides to mercy kill his handicap son, because without Nancy, Benoit can't live, and his son shouldn't either. Then Benoit hangs himself.

Guys, I'm as big as a Benoit fan as anyone, but this case is done. I'll go along with the Kevin Sullivan theory, but only so far. There are such things as perfect crimes, and this maybe one of them, there is certainly motive for KS to pull this off. As far as authorities are concerned, the case is a lock. Benoit did it, and we're going to have to accept it, like it or not.

The main thing is, what do we do from here. The biggest shame so far is Vince McMahon. I have watched a ton of media coverage, listened to a ton of radio, and only one person has called Benoit a monster, and that is that no good bastard Vince McMahon. I'm sorry, but that is bullshit. I feel sorry for wrestling fans to. The rest of the world has accepted that Benoit made a tragic mistake, had some sort of mental illness, and simply snapped. Wrestling fans and the promoter are the ones that aren't as open, which just sickens me. The fans and Vince are calling him a monster, but 4 days ago we were saying how great he was.

Benoit made a terrible mistake, something none of us will ever begin to comprehend. It's time to move on guys. The choice is yours. Hang on to conspiracy theories, or simply accept things at face value. It's your choice to remember Benoit the murderer, or Benoit, the Best damn in ring technician the business has seen this decade. I've made my choice, I think the man made a huge error in judgment, but I don't think 72 hours can undo 22 years of what he has done in this business.
 
Actually, I couldn't find any mention of Benoit on WWE.com whatsoever. It's like they're just trying to erase all memory of him.

And Shocky, very funny post. At least I hope it was supposed to be funny because otherwise it's just a bit wierd.
 
To all the people that think inside the box: Why do you think that ANY story can be called in a weeks time? There are things not awnsered...Right? And if there in an ounce of question that there is a 1% chance of something crazy might of happened then dont you think for Chris's name if nothing else should be looked into?

I for one have leaned to not believe everything I read or as told to me as fact. If I did that I would believe every lie the government gives out everyday.

I believe in the facts and when there is question about anything strange we should question it, because if we don't then if something is amist they will get away with a crime. And if there is a crime commited by someone other than Benoit, dont you think we should look at it maybe just a little bit.
 
I always am open to the 1%, hell I've been one of the most vocal with it this week. The fact is, the police are investigating it as a Double Murder Suicide, not a triple Murder. They are going to gather facts that prove it is a double murder- suicide. They look for the evidence that supports it, so It's not going to change from a double-murder suicide. For all intents and purposes, like it or not, Chris Benoit is officially a two time murderer, and a suicidal maniac. Whether you believe it or not, is another thing. Personally, I've accepted that Benoit did this, but I've also accepted that he had done this in an altered state of mind. Of course I'm going to be ecstatic if evidence comes out that someone else did this. But lets be realistic guys, it's not going to change, period. The cops have all they need to close this thing, and unless an anonymous third party comes forward with evidence on why someone else did it, it's going to never change.
 

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