Sin Cara- Future Endeavored?

[arttagboy]

Mexican Wrestler Sin Cara (Mystico) made his WWE debut by attacking Sheamus after a match with Daniel Bryan on Raw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7IN8gG7sKg&feature=fvst

After months of promo's, his debut was widely hyped, and many expected him to be the next Rey Mysterio. He began wrestling stars such as Chavo Guerrero and Tyson Kidd. Although both are solid in ring, Cara's constant botches made the matches nearly unwatchable. After being "injured" at WWE TLC due to a powerbomb through a table from Sheamus (really a violation of the wellness policy), he was replaced by the much larger luchador Hunico, who sold moves reasonably well, and did not botch quite as often. Sin Cara was in full blown face mode, getting a moderate pop during entrances, as well as selling kiddie replication masks, which one could see interspersed throughout the audience. Sin Cara (Azul) came back after his suspension, and entered into a feud with Sin Cara Hunico (Negro). Giving WWE fans some of the most horrible luchador matches in recent history, and perhaps the worst WWE feud of 2011.
During his match at Survivor Series, Sin Cara was legitimately injured and will be out for 6-9 months. My question to you is, should Cara be shipped to FWC, seeing as he botches constantly, should they keep him on Smackdown! to work through his injury and perhaps get better in a few months, or should WWE future endeavor him?

 

[iwinulose]

most likely get rid of him. i mean, he wasnt getting pops anymore, he wasnt selling overly great, i dont think he was able to really draw. the botches werent really noticable, and he put on great fast paced matches but i dont exactly think thats the direction that the wwe wants to go. they did the tour in mexico, and sin cara just isnt working out and now that he is injured, well once he recovers i think the wwe may very well terminate his contract.

 

[The A]

I feel bad for the guy man nothing went right. They should have had him in fcw for a bit maybe. I don't see why he just doesnt do his thing in Mexico but if he really wants to do wwe I say give him one more chance.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I'm of mixed feelings on Sin Cara. Sin Cara is and has been the biggest star in Mexican wrestling for a long time now. Hispanics are the largest growing viewers of WWE programming, so the idea to bring in an established draw like Sin Cara sounds like a good business decision. Sin Cara also does bring a different aspect to WWE because the lucha libre style is something that's been a rare presence on televised American wrestling programs. Standing out, bringing something different to the table can be a good thing.

At the same time, it looks as though WWE's plans for Sin Cara may have sounded and looked better on paper than in actual practice. I can understand WWE wanting to bring Sin Cara up quickly and get a jump on the unique aspect he brings. At the same time, the fact that the man can barely speak or understand English is something that's been a hindurance. When you're in the ring with a guy that doesn't speak the same language, I'm sure it's easy for mistakes to happen when setting up a spot during the match. That also means that Sin Cara's unable to cut promos and promos allow wrestlers to sort of bond with the audience, they get to know what makes the wrestler's character tick. An inability to do promos is a major hindurance with larger scale companies like WWE or TNA.

As far as Sin Cara's botches go, I think it's too be expected given the style he works. I'm hardly an expert on the luchadore style but in the times I've watched AAA, botches with all the various flips & flops seem to be pretty common. At the same time, Sin Cara has relied so much on that particular style that it's difficult to make the transition. In AAA, I've seen them do so many variations on the hurricanrana that the move loses all meaning, as well as various suicide dives and the matches were often filled with spots that were heavily choreographed. That just doesn't really cut it with American audiences. Sure, the flips & flops and all are fun but that lack of connection via promos, general charisma and storytelling aren't going to be enough to really make a guy a long term & lasting star. Rey Mysterio figured that out a long time ago, adjusted and has been one of the biggest names in WWE for a decade now.

Looking back on things, I think it may have been for the best if he'd been sent to FCW. There are areas that he's needed help in and he certainly hasn't shown any improvement on them while he's been in WWE. After recovering from his injury, which may force him to adopt an alternative style given the severity of it, I look for him to be sent to FCW and work on the shortcomings he's got. If Sin Cara disagrees, then letting him go will probably be in WWE's best interest.

 

[Henrique]

I agree with you Jack-Hammer.
I think Sin Cara's wrestling style is not compatible with the american style... mexicans go wild about hurricanranas and all that coreographed wrestling style.
I think WWE hired Sin Cara to please the mexiucan fans, but let's face it... Sin Cara is very limited for the american standards and a overwhelming fuss was created around him only to disappoint the WWE universe, who had high hopes for him.
Sin Cara's future is compromised because he simply is not able to fit in the pack.

 

[Ubiquitous]

So, you're asking REAL people the legitimate question of if this guy should be fired, or forced to work through his injury, thus making him susceptible to injuring himself further or worse, another superstar? Or if he should be shipped down to FCW?

Well, I look at it this way. If the WWE is going to FORCE any superstar to work through an injury, unless they absolutely insist and can do so safely (see; Mark Henry), the company shouldn't be able to employ anyone. That's absolutely ridiculous to suggest. If you find the guy as terrible as you seem to looking at your post, how do you think this guy would perform while injured?

Next, you're asking if he should be fired? Now, is it Mistico's fault WWE brought him up to their main roster without making sure he was 100% comfortable working with their talent? You're damn right it's their fault. Now, given, he was on the road with them for the better part of the year since signing, and taking into account house shows, television and PPV, the guy has gotten his fair share of "practice" by now. But seriously, WWE signed this guy. He's a mega-star in Mexico for a reason. Why should he suffer for WWE's mistake of not letting the guy adjust? The only time he's wrestled for WWE have been infront of decent to huge audiences. Stress has to be a factor there, especially for someone wrestling in a market he's not as known in. On top of all of that, you have to know that he realizes when he botches a move, it's not just the audience that realizes it. If it happens that often, perhaps there is something else at play here.

Should WWE ship him to FCW? Most definitely. He needs to be given time to just work with generic american wrestling talent, infront of small crowds. He needs to learn to adapt his craft ever so slightly so as to be able to mesh with the current WWE talent, much like Mysterio has mastered.

However, there's one more factor here. Money.
I can't imagine WWE got this guy cheap. To steal a star like Mistico would cost some heavy coin, and even his downside guarantee is probably more than what most lower level guys are making that work night in and night out. Is it worth it for WWE to let Mistico play around in FCW and ply his craft?

Or maybe they should just play ignorant and let his ass go. Honestly, would anyone remember this guy a year from now? Aside from the "Do you remember..." threads created every once and a while (see; Mordecai), the casual fan wouldn't care too much. Mistico would more than likely be more comfortable wrestling back in Mexico anyway. So, it's all a matter of opinion I suppose. In playing devil's advocate here, I didn't really make a choice. I don't think I want to. All I know is that I think it's really low to fire a guy who's currently nursing an injury he sustained while working for you. And they definitely shouldn't be forcing the guy to work.

 

[moneymaker90]

For what I've seen of him so far my first instinct would be to drop the guy. He botches every single match which makes him an amateur. So either learn how to do it or go do something else. I would recommend him to go back to Mexico because either he is a better wrestle there, or they don't care about his botches. What he shouldn't do his be on the World's biggest and most important wrestling company. Period.

 

[justinept]

Sin Cara should - and will be - future endeavored by the end of the year. It isn't just the botches that have dragged him down, though they haven't helped any. His lack of connection with the audience is what has killed him.

To put it mildly, no one cares about Sin Cara. He's just another guy with a high-spot move set. He's no different than La Parka, Ultimo Dragon, Juventud, Tajiri or even Evan Bourne in my opinion ... He offers nothing to the table in terms of charisma.

Look at lucha libres like Rey Mysterio and Eddie Guerrero. What made them different from other lucha libres was their ability to connect with the audience. Sin Cara hasn't come close to showing he has that type of ability.

 

[SEXYdex]

The only reason i think that Cara will not be endeavored is beacause the WWE paid big bucks for him. I cant see them lettign him go after the amount of money they spent on tis guy

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

Sin Cara was poised to cater to Rey's position and to be honest he was getting good pops on SD early on.

Then the botches started and those god-awful lights during his match didn't help. I get it if it's for the first few weeks, but then it got annoying.

His feud with his doppelganger was frustating because you couldn't understand what they're saying, because of their persona and masks. When Taker fought Taker, Dibiase and Bearer did the talking so you got what was going on.

And a c*ck tee didn't help.

 

[The Doctor]

Sin Cara is awesome. Anyone that young thrown into the huge spotlight of the WWE is going to choke. It's just how it is. The guy is great, he just really needs some training in FCW to really adapt to the WWE style. When he works through his injury they should probably send him down there for some tips. Perhaps some training sessions with Rey Mysterio wouldn't be amiss. Sin Cara has a unique look, marketability in Mexico, and the potential to be the next masked legend in the WWE. He's young, he's vibrant, he's a draw and a merch-seller, and has his whole career ahead of him. They won't be releasing him any time soon, and if they do I'll be highly upset at the boneheaded move.

 

[Twocenter]

Sin Cara's injury is a blessing in disguise. Now, he not only has the time to eliminate his botches but also learn English and be able to talk on mic. He needs to train at FCW for a short time before returning that he will be botch free. I don't see him getting endeavored as he is a Hispanic favorite. Sin Cara is better than mysterio at this date.

 

[Aquaman6686]

Get rid of him, the guy is worthless. They paid a ton of money on him and it's all been wasted, he can't do anything right. If they really love the character that much, bring back somebody like Jamie Noble or Paul London and have them take over the Sin Cara character.

 

[Twocenter]

I don't think a leg/ankle injury has to do anything with the talent of speaking . Why can't he learn English in 6-9 months? Is it a combination of 123 languages or something? You made me laugh.

 

[Captain Morgan Freeman]

I can't help but feel bad for Sin Cara. Looking back the WWE really hyped him up and put too much pressure on him while expecting him to hit the ground running without any time the practice getting used to the WWE style. It just seems like to much to ask for a guy that doesn't even speak the same language as the guys he's working with in the ring.

With all the botches he's done and now with him injuring himself i can't help but wonder weather any of the other wrestlers will want to work with him in case they get seriously injured because of him messing up one of his moves. Ken Kennedy found himself in a similar position a few years ago as a guy with tons of potential but a reputation for getting himself and others injured and look what happened to him.

I really hope he doesn't go the way of kennedy though. Sin Cara brings something unique to the WWE and as Rey has shown that particular style of wrestling is very popular with the crowd. He's proven himself to be a good merchandise seller i just hope WWE gives him a clean slate and time to get everything right for when he returns from his injury.

 

[Ithil]

He needs to:

-Learn English (I'm sorry but if you can't understand what the other guy is calling in the ring, your match is not going to work right)

-Spend time in FCW learning WWE style to mesh better. He's a phenomenal luchador, but WWE style simply isn't lucha libre, and he needs to find a middle ground like Rey Mysterio did.

Do that and he can make it. He's easy to get over big with the kids, and his merch sales will alway be good because of his mask.

 

[Cats Pajamas]

He's got a case of Ultimo Dragon Syndrome for sure. You know though, Rey Rey came in with a lot of fans ready for him, like they had been counting down the days until his WWE debut. Plus, he had Edge giving him a nod, he was jumping off of steel cages by his second show. He had his burrito handed to him on a silver platter.

Sin Cara was a new character, and he was in a feud with himself before having an imposter mattered. As was already said, the feud didn't pan out incredibly well.

I say its too early too tell by logic alone. Its a good character, give him another chance.

 

[ABMorales787]

He doesn't need to do shit. I thought WWE was the biggest wrestling company in history. But their workers are incapable of figuring out the oldest style of wrestling out there? There's no language barrier in the ring. Knock him down, point to the floor. "Stay down". It's not like he does some complicated spots of turnbuckles that need massive explaining. This is the guy who in 2006 was voted "Biggest Draw". Voted over Cena, DX, Rey and such.

People love to point fingers at him because "he botches". You sure he's just not getting cooperation?

And for him learning English, why don't you learn Spanish? It didn't stop the luchadores that came to WCW, I'm sure Jericho never learned Spanish and spent years in Mexico. And that's not even taken the Japanese into account.

 

[Ithil]

He doesn't need to do shit. I thought WWE was the biggest wrestling company in history. But their workers are incapable of figuring out the oldest style of wrestling out there? There's no language barrier in the ring. Knock him down, point to the floor. "Stay down". It's not like he does some complicated spots of turnbuckles that need massive explaining. This is the guy who in 2006 was voted "Biggest Draw". Voted over Cena, DX, Rey and such.

People love to point fingers at him because "he botches". You sure he's just not getting cooperation?

And for him learning English, why don't you learn Spanish? It didn't stop the luchadores that came to WCW, I'm sure Jericho never learned Spanish and spent years in Mexico. And that's not even taken the Japanese into account.

Actually Jericho did in fact learn Spanish in Mexico, as he was incapable of getting along there without it.

Why exactly should the entire roster change to suit one guy who won't compromise?

That is incredibly unfair. The WWE is not a lucha libre promotion. What gives Sin Cara a free pass to stay as he is and learn nothing?

 

[Aeon Mathix]

The WWE style is not exactly easy to adapt to overnight. Not that I would know first hand, but from reading and listening to other wrestlers like Eddie, Jericho, and Benoit who wrestled all over the world talk about how much they had to change styles, I wouldn't be surprised. I seem to remember Daniel Bryan actually requesting not to be brought up to the main roster a few years ago because I wanted to get better at WWE's style. WWE's ring is larger than a lot of the indy circuits, ROH, etc.

But onto Sin Cara, the guy can do some amazing moves no doubt and got some pretty solid pops along the way. He botched the hell out of some things certainly, but I have seen in him wrestle in Mexico and the guy is amazing. I really think that he just needs the right people to work with. Rey rey could probably keep up with him. He had a pretty good match with Chavo at Over The Limit last year. I do not think he should rush back from injury though just for a WrestleMania pay day (according to reports at least), he should just fully recover and maybe take some time down in FCW to train more.

In short the guy CAN be great, just needs some work. Learning at least some english or getting a manager would benefit him greatly as well. There's only so much you can do to build a feud without cutting a promo.

 

[achillesforever6]

Personally he was getting some good pops, hopefully the break will be a blessing in disguise and then maybe he will have time to learn English and learn the style.

Also it seems just before he got injured that he got a new mask that could allow him to see and they were getting rid of the Sin Cara porno lighting.

Here's hoping he comes better than ever.