Shut Up, Dixie Carter...

[Chicago1989]

Judging by the responses here, there seems to be too many pro-TNA posters here. I soon as I posted this thread up, BOOM!..that's when all the loyal TNA dogs come out. I used to love TNA, back when they first moved to Spike. Now, they're just trying to be this "WWE lite" and I got sick of it. You guys may have a high tolerance for mainstream garbage but I don't. I had enough of the 3-minuted matches, the fossils taking over, the ridiculous decisions that even indie companies would usually make, and the booking of the show. But most of all, you guys are supporting a show that's presented by guys like Vince Russo and Eric Bischoff, who looks down on us. But oh well, I mean I guess the same has always been said about WWE fans since they still can't let it go.

 

[Reddannihilation]

Judging by the responses here, there seems to be too many pro-TNA posters here.

You mean too many people who don't agree with you? Wuh-oh.

I soon as I posted this thread up, BOOM!..that's when all the loyal TNA dogs come out.

You made a shitty criticism in the hope that troll users who always post how much they hate TNA would show up first. Instead you caught the attention of forum regulars who can see through your idiocy.

I used to love TNA, back when they first moved to Spike. Now, they're just trying to be this "WWE lite" and I got sick of it.

WWE Light? I don't see any guest hosts on TNA, I don't see the removal of blood and chair shots, there's no pandering to small children and there's focus outside of the Main Event, if anything WWE is the lighter product because TNA does things the WWE has stopped doing in an attempt to make themselves more kid-friendly, WWE's the diet coke, not TNA.

You guys may have a high tolerance for mainstream garbage but I don't.

So what? You want non-mainstream wrestling? Well I'm sure NWA Wild side and Ring Of Honor would be happy to have you,but as a warning, I'd suggest you get used to seeing the various athletes in those companies up and dissappear when they realise how difficult it is to support themselves on the chickenfeed the smaller companies can offer.

I had enough of the 3-minuted matches, the fossils taking over, the ridiculous decisions that even indie companies would usually make, and the booking of the show.

Outside of squashes I haven't seen many 3 minute matches on iMPACT lately. And remind who all the old guys holding the titles are again? Pretty sure the booking isn't all that bad either, but who knows perhaps shows with zero storylines have better booking.

But most of all, you guys are supporting a show that's presented by guys like Vince Russo and Eric Bischoff, who looks down on us. But oh well, I mean I guess the same has always been said about WWE fans since they still can't let it go.

What? Vince Russo and Eric Bischoff look down on the fans? That's odd considering both men are major figures in an industry designed to entertain people, if they disliked the fans they'd probably be more like Jim Cornette and Mark Madden spending all of their time running everything and everyone down.

Seriously you're all over the place. You started the thread, which as far as I can see is based on you not liking that Dixie Carter uses a modern information sharing service and then when you didn't get the reaction you wanted, you've decided you're now above everyone and that everyone here is a TNA mark. Be completely honest, in what way does Dixie Carter posting updates on twitter affect TNA in a negative manner? Because I don't think you even know, you just wanted to rant about TNA because they no longer cater their product to a tiny niche audience and now that they're trying to expand you've decided they suck because people who aren't you might start enjoying it.

So really you deserve to have your posts ripped apart by people who don't blindly subscribe to the bullshit spewed out by dirt sheets.

 

[JSH6487]

You guys are morons...I never said there was anything wrong with Twitter to keep in touch with the fan base and make announcements. All I said was the way she was doing it was ridiculously ditzy and in no way shape or form could I take HER serious as the one running a major WRESTLING company. Maybe if she was selling makeup or purses...

 

[sam_k7]

Check all the bitchin!!!!!

Where’s your internationally broadcast wrestling promotion ladies?
I don’t see an internationally broadcast wrestling promotion with your names on it?
oooh that’s because you don’t have a internationally broadcast wrestling promotion!
So how can you bitch about a person who is making 1000X more effort to better an industry that you supposedly enjoy?

Maybe if DC/TNA stopped listening to the fans, removed all violence from violence based entertainment and stuck in celebrities who no-one cares about on every weekly show u would blow your load in ur Y-fronts?

Stop your bitchin', watch some wrestling and keep your uninformed business strategies to yourself n leave it to people who have earned the right to do so (which btw was not accomplished by sittin at a computer crying on a message board).

 

[Dogfingers]

Come on man, you can't seriously watch TNA and say "senior citizens are running rampant" unless there's something wrong upstairs. Seriously are we watching the same show? Where are all these senior citizens running rampant? Have you not watched any TNA since 1/4? Maybe that's your problem.

All this hate for Hogan when the guy's TV role has been reduced to being TNA's Teddy Long. Okay, I guess Flair gets a fair amount of TV time but the guy is single handedly trying to put over like half of TNA's original talent.

Who in TNA is being pushed harder than Abyss? (or does he not count since Hogan likes him?). What about Jay Lethal's big push? Jessie Neal? Hernandez and Matt Morgan feuding, Abyss/Wolfe feuding, Kaz and Beer Money aligned with Flair. Doug Williams? Rob Terry (who i can't stand BTW)? All these guys are getting shine every week.

Putting them over by saying Ole Anderson would eat them for breakfast or telling them they're nowhere near his level?

I don't mind Dixie twittering, it's fine to advertise your product, but...it's the constant "HUGE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT WILL CHANGE THE FACE OF WRESTLING" tweets that annoy me. Last time she did this it was about TNA moving back to Thursday night. Shocker. They just need to be more subtle.

Dixie seems to think that hiring well known wrestlers and putting the belt on them straight away is a sure fire way to win ratings. This, as wrestling history suggests, is bollocks. The money is in the chase. Rob Van Dam has absolutely nothing to achieve now he has been given the title so early. He has no chase, no sense of victory and no big match.

It's not the fact older people are in TNA, it's the way they don't really put anyone over. Hogan tries to make Abyss over by making him like Hulk Hogan, another tribute act. It's just lame and too much of a departure for Abyss' character. By Abyss mimicking Hogan, the only person being put over is Hogan.

The only person that they've actually improved was Ellija Burke/The Pope, and they were too scared to pull the trigger on him and Lockdown.

Also all this arse kissing has to stop to Hogan on the backstage cams, no one likes a suck up.

 

[sam_k7]

Ms. Carter has no booking influence atall, so she cannot be blamed 4 old dudes with titles. Its not her fault we had a skid-mark of a tag-title run with "the band".

 

[Dogfingers]

Ms. Carter has no booking influence atall, so she cannot be blamed 4 old dudes with titles. Its not her fault we had a skid-mark of a tag-title run with "the band".

That's maybe the problem. There is not one person responsible for TNA's direction, because currently it doesn't have one. Even though WWE isn't great at the moment at least it has a figurehead who controls everything. It has direction, they know what they want to produce and are at least consistent.

TNA has none of this.

 

[sam_k7]

That's maybe the problem. There is not one person responsible for TNA's direction, because currently it doesn't have one. Even though WWE isn't great at the moment at least it has a figurehead who controls everything. It has direction, they know what they want to produce and are at least consistent.

TNA has none of this.

That i may agree with. You do see abit of continuity problems here and there, for example; world elite were showing alot of promise especially EY as the leader, now he is a replacment for a shit out-dated wrestler in a shit out-dated team

I’m pretty sure they made a big deal about the #1 contender spot which Bobby Lashley won. (I know he left but there was no mention of it and he did have the spot 4 a good few weeks b4 he left and nothing came of it)

So yea TNA do need some consistency and leadership in their booking, but I wouldnt go as far as to say it is bad.

And I think its cruel to bash Dixie Carter for these problems.

 

[Tenta]

You know, though maybe I wouldn't be as hard on here, there is something about her that just makes it so I can't take her seriously as a member of the company, let alone the owner. There's just something about her that screams out "mark", the likes of which seriously turns me off to her as an owner. Maybe I'm not giving her enough credit, but she just doesn't scream out "owner" to me, and there's just something about her, as a person, that I really just don't like. I feel as though in professional wrestling, there needs to be a stern hand at the owner to control the boys, and not be worked like a helpless mark. And as much as it pains me to say this, everything about Dixie Carter does scream out "helpless mark".

Riaku earlier compared her to Ted Turner; I think that absolutely fits, really. The problem was, Ted didn't have the authority to come down on his wrestlers, and tell them what's acceptable, and what their role in the company is. Vince is the embodiment of authority in the WWE; the buck stops with him. Dixie is need of someone a the authority level, who is wise to the political game, to be brought into management. Believe it or not, once he retires, I'd probably pick up Kevin Nash. The only issue Nash really had in the WCW was his perchance to push himself and his friends; otherwise, Nash does have a very good mind for the business. That, plus no one understands the political game better than Nash. Just put someone in that understands the political aspect, and how to work the boys when it needs to happen. That, to me, just seems to be the issue for Dixie

 

[Dave]

You know, though maybe I wouldn't be as hard on here, there is something about her that just makes it so I can't take her seriously as a member of the company, let alone the owner. There's just something about her that screams out "mark", the likes of which seriously turns me off to her as an owner. Maybe I'm not giving her enough credit, but she just doesn't scream out "owner" to me, and there's just something about her, as a person, that I really just don't like. I feel as though in professional wrestling, there needs to be a stern hand at the owner to control the boys, and not be worked like a helpless mark. And as much as it pains me to say this, everything about Dixie Carter does scream out "helpless mark".

Riaku earlier compared her to Ted Turner; I think that absolutely fits, really. The problem was, Ted didn't have the authority to come down on his wrestlers, and tell them what's acceptable, and what their role in the company is. Vince is the embodiment of authority in the WWE; the buck stops with him. Dixie is need of someone a the authority level, who is wise to the political game, to be brought into management. Believe it or not, once he retires, I'd probably pick up Kevin Nash. The only issue Nash really had in the WCW was his perchance to push himself and his friends; otherwise, Nash does have a very good mind for the business. That, plus no one understands the political game better than Nash. Just put someone in that understands the political aspect, and how to work the boys when it needs to happen. That, to me, just seems to be the issue for Dixie

I can’t speak for you Tenta but for me it is the way she composes herself, both inside and outside of the ring. She doesn’t act stately and thus, people don’t imagine her to be the President of a maginally successful profession wrestling company.

I mean, let’s look at some of the things she does. She has a Twitter account that she constantly updates with the most meaningless of things. These absolute gems include many classics such as:

Jeff Hardy started a dance party after joinin a gentleman who'd danced alone all nite at hotel after TNA show

And who could ever forget this little beauty?

Got stung by a wasp on my hand & our ranch forman took his Copenhagen right out of his mouth & just slapped it on my hand. Mmmm nice.

Now, I realise the fact that she wants to come across as having a sense of humour and trying to connect with the fans but to me, she acts as though she is one of those people you see inherit massive companies and then proceed to piss it down the drain. For me, she just acts like a child a lot of the time and I just have a problem with her that I can’t put my finger on. She seems like a nice enough person but she certainly doesn’t act like the owner of a company.

 

[Tenta]

I can’t speak for you Tenta but for me it is the way she composes herself, both inside and outside of the ring. She doesn’t act stately and thus, people don’t imagine her to be the President of a maginally successful profession wrestling company.

I mean, let’s look at some of the things she does. She has a Twitter account that she constantly updates with the most meaningless of things. These absolute gems include many classics such as:



And who could ever forget this little beauty?



Now, I realise the fact that she wants to come across as having a sense of humour and trying to connect with the fans but to me, she acts as though she is one of those people you see inherit massive companies and then proceed to piss it down the drain. For me, she just acts like a child a lot of the time and I just have a problem with her that I can’t put my finger on. She seems like a nice enough person but she certainly doesn’t act like the owner of a company.

I think the word we can use here, Dave, is sheltered. Dixie comes off as extremely sheltered. Think about it; she comes from a long line of money, and is the energy stock. Her father owns the company, and make no mistake about it; this is her father's money being spent, not hers. I hear of some people within professional wrestling who resent Stephanie McMahon, because she uses her family heritage and money from her father to demand respect from the boys. To me, there's two dramatic differences between Dixie and Steph:

1. Stephanie actually grew up in the business, and actually does get respect for what she does know about the business. Dixie, on the other hand, doesn't have that knowledge.

2. Dixie doesn't command respect, as much as she goes along for the ride. For as bitchy as I've heard Stephanie McMahon can be, the fact that she can use her authority and throw her voice every now and then does help. Dixie needs to do similar. Otherwise, TNA isn't going to have the future it may want

 

[ABMorales787]

I wouldn't compare the work ethics of TNA with WWE's. The atmospheres are very different from what I understand. Funny enough, TNA needs a more strict reggime while WWE needs to lighten up. I for one, don't think Dixie should change her attitude. Her outlook on the product, yes, her overall attitude, no. She's the boss in casual clothing as opposed to the corporate powersuit that is Vince. It works. However I also do feel that somebody with actual wrestling knowledge should at least keep an eye out for her. I don't really give a damn about her Twitter, but when stuff like hiring certain employee's comes to mind, a trustworthy person should be close by to agree or disagree and say why. I wouldn't mind Kevin Nash. In the ring, he can't offer anyone than what he does now, which is keeping poor Eric on life-support. However, he does care for TNA. A corporate position for the big man would not be so bad. But then again, isn't that supposed to be what Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff were brought in for? To help out with those decisions?

 

[Canadian-BadAss]

in a way, i feel bad for her. without realizing it, she has brought in the same people who killed WCW not too many years ago. now i dont watch TNA that much, but when there's nothing else on, i'll flip to it yeah. so i hope that TNA does not end up going the way of WCW, because i really dont see vince buying this one out when they start to fail.

 

[Dogfingers]

If what MArk Madden says is true, Dixie should have got rid of Russo, Hogan and Bischoff for Heyman. Although he hasn't been tested since 2004 (where he booked Smacksown where it was at its very best), he has a proven track record at making stars. He can take a nobody and make them something. This is TNA's weakness. Since the Hogan/Bischoff era TNA have elevated no-one, except perhaps for Flairs mentoring of AJ Styles and Douglas Williams.

Pope and Joe were bigger stars before they arrived, Beer Money have been turned into hired goons, Desmond Wolfe has become a jobber, Eric Young is nowhere to be seen, Abyss is a joke, the womens division is just awful etc. At least Heyman truely knows how to book a killer. I'd have love to have seen him shape Samoa Joe's career.

Lets face it, the stars they have brought in haven't set ratings on fire. Van Dam has been a mediocre champion at best (Styles should still have had that belt), Jeff Hardy and Mr Anderson despite being fairly watchable haven't attracted any new viewers.

With Heyman they could have stopped spending ridiculous amounts of money on stars that are doing nothing for their rating and started concentrating on building their own

 

[Kenny Powers]

None of us really know Dixie or how to run a wrestling company. Mark Madden doesn't even have all the answers even though he has been involved in the wrestling business. I really don't have a problem with her twittering since it lets fans know new changes in TNA and it lets people know about the health of wrestlers. Maybe she shouldn't talk about everything on Twitter like going to see Twilight with the girls or watching Jeff Hardy do a dance off.

The good thing is though if a wrestler is injured or they are signing a new contract, Dixie lets the fans know. She is probably a naive mark I don't doubt, but I do give her credit for managing a successful company. If she wasn't successful then TNA would be out of business by now. She seems really down to earth and prides herself on having a family atmosphere in TNA. A lot of wrestlers agree that the atmosphere backstage in TNA is warm, but some people see that as weakness. I think some workers or even fans would rather see an owner as a boss with authority then a friend.

At the end of the day it is about business but its also about morale in the company. The people that have actually worked at TNA really don't have a bad thing to say about Dixie as a person. I'm sure Cornette has harsh feelings about Dixie as the owner of a wrestling company, but not as a person. There are a lot of things Dixie can learn in the business, but at least she is willing to learn them.

If Dixie was such a failure then TNA wouldn't of lasted 8 years and wouldn't be the #2 Wrestling company in the world.