Should there be another REALLY LONG title reign?

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I was looking at the thread for "what was your favorite wwe title reign" thread earlier, and a lot of people were saying cena's year-long reign, or orton's that came right after it. Those two title reigns lasted several months, way longer than most of the title reigns we have seen in recent years.

I definately think it would benefit the wwe to have long title reigns again. The ratings would go up because more people would be watching to see their hero (if a face) or someone they hate (if a heel) to see who finally defeats them, it could also be used to get someone new into the main event in terms of the person who ends the long reign.

For mine.... I would go with having Cena win at Breaking Point then give him a very long wwe title reign. Like him or not (I know some don't) you know that you would be watching to see who finally beats him, just like in 06-07. I would then have him win against heels who haven't had as much of a chance at the belt (in other words NOT orton or HHH!) then by wrestlemania give someone more established a chance. I would say Orton, have Orton win at wrestlemania and start a similarly long reign from there, kind of like the "age of orton" one from 07-08 and then have a NEW face beat him in the end (NOT HHH or Cena!).

Do you think there should be another title reign that lasts a really long time, as in a whole school-year or longer? If so, who would you like to see with the belt for that long, and why?
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i think CM Punk should have a long title reign. The gimmick he has is perfect for WWE marketing its PG rating. I mean even if it was PG-13 it would work even better. Punk generally has every enemy when it comes to his real life work. His straight edge heel gimmicks comes across that he is better than all the rest. The list of people for him to feud with and why. (Mine you straight edge: No drinking, no smoking, no promisicous sex, and no recreational drugs)

Jeff Hardy: A drug user
Edge: Promisicous sex, he'll do anything for a title shot
Undertaker: Smoking and tobacco products
Orton: Smoking, drugs, alcohol just what hasnt he done lol?
Matt Hardy: Jeff brother, he argue that Matt is just as bad as Jeff for not encouraging him to take action.
John Morrison: He was suspended for violate the wellness program
Rey Mysterio: Same as Morrison
Batistia: He is injury prone and he could spin that using painkiller and other drugs is not worth and he should just quit.
Shawn Michaels: He has injures also and he takes painkillers so why not him? (IMO this feud would be great)

I mean any wrestler who has a record for anything that lands in the area of straight edge beliefs is a target for Punk so it works well for him
 
I'm not sure, a really long reign is always great for the champion, obviously. But it could have some good effects and it could have some bad effects.
Yes, it could help ratings. But if guys are just build up only to be defeated 2 or 3 times in a row by the champ, that will not help build future stars.
Look at John Cena's long reigns. Guys like Umaga, Chris Masters and Carlito were build up to be future main eventers. They challenged Cena, looked threatening, but then got beaten by Cena. And it got them absolutely nowhere.

I'm gonna try put this in a way that makes sense. In a feud between established main eventers, it doesn't matter who wins. They're both established, loses won't hurt either man. If an upper midcarder challenges a champion once, loses, and that's all then it's fine cause it's testing the waters for that upper midcarder and it helps bring him up to the next level.
But if an upper midcarder gets into a feud with a champion, a proper, multi-month feud, then the upper midcarder should come out on top in the end. If they build up an upper midcarder, it shouldn't be for nothing.
A long title reign would be bad for making new stars, unless the wrestler is trying to establish himself as a main eventer (CM Punk at the moment, for instance).
 
I'm going to have to go with Christian. I think Christian having a long ECW championship reign would be awesome. Christian is great on the mic, and way over with the fans. There's a lot of young talent on ECW, and they could use that temporary spotlight. This would give the likes of Zack Ryder,Sheamus, Ezekiel Jackoson, and Tyler Reks to have their showcase.
 
I'm not sure, a really long reign is always great for the champion, obviously. But it could have some good effects and it could have some bad effects.
Yes, it could help ratings. But if guys are just build up only to be defeated 2 or 3 times in a row by the champ, that will not help build future stars.
Look at John Cena's long reigns. Guys like Umaga, Chris Masters and Carlito were build up to be future main eventers. They challenged Cena, looked threatening, but then got beaten by Cena. And it got them absolutely nowhere.

I'm gonna try put this in a way that makes sense. In a feud between established main eventers, it doesn't matter who wins. They're both established, loses won't hurt either man. If an upper midcarder challenges a champion once, loses, and that's all then it's fine cause it's testing the waters for that upper midcarder and it helps bring him up to the next level.
But if an upper midcarder gets into a feud with a champion, a proper, multi-month feud, then the upper midcarder should come out on top in the end. If they build up an upper midcarder, it shouldn't be for nothing.
A long title reign would be bad for making new stars, unless the wrestler is trying to establish himself as a main eventer (CM Punk at the moment, for instance).
I don't think you should blame Cena for what happened with Masters and Carlito, they weren't just that good to stay in the main-event, so they disapparead naturally.

But, Umaga, was totally different, he always looked like a threat, and he was the first wrestler I tought would win the title from Cena leading to Wrestlemania with a match between both of them where Cena would win, that didn't happen, but Umaga was buried not by Cena but by Triple H.

About the thread itself, I think we need long title reigns but when we have them we don't like them. When Cena was champion, everybody was sick and tired of watching him winning, when he lost everybody changed their opinion.

I think wrestling in general its just like this. We get what we want and then we don't like until it finally ends.
 
Only if it is Jericho. He is the only guy in WWE that will work with anyone and can make even the least talented guy look great in the ring. He gets good heel heat and has proven to be a great face as well.

Ever since his return in late 07, Jericho has constantly been WWE's MVP. From the classic fued with HBK, to the IC title matches with Jeff Hardy, Kofi and Rey Mysterio and now his tag team with the Big Show. WWE needs to use Jericho as the main attraction, but I dont think that the "powers that be" *cough HHH cough* will let that happen.
 
I think a long title run should be given to the undertaker, why? because he is getting to the end of his career and lately he has become a "jobber" putting over younger superstars making him look pathetic. Where he used to be one of the most feared superstars wwe had. give him 1 more nice long run before he hangs em up.. make him the feared phenom that he once was
 
In my opinion a long term champion only works if a heel is the champion. A face chasing a championship is much more watchable than a heel chasing. With that being said I think they could go with either CM Punk or Randy Orton as a long term champion, preferably CM Punk. Has hasn't used up all his possible fueds, like Orton. CM Punk could face anyone heel or face, he has had little no action with anyone of the follow: Edge, Undertaker, Orton, Matt Hardy, John Morrison, Rey Mysterio, Batistia, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, MVP, etc. He is a relatively fresh face despite being with the company for a few years now and will be the face of the company in years to come. Give Punk a long term run!
 
I think a long title run should be given to the undertaker,

this wont happen. WWE wanted him to have a long run after WM 23. Would have been great, but Taker cant stay healthy. I have loads of respect for the Deadman, but he is not the man for a long reign.

My vote would be Cena. he did a great job a few years ago. Im no Cena fan, but I have respect for his work ethic . He can pull it off. Cena is basically the Hogan of this era , and should be given another long reign , ie Hogan. just not 4 years.

Look at how meaning less the title scene was at WM this year. Trips won the WWE title at NWO and lost it it Backlash.
Cena won the World title at WM and lost it quickly again at Backlash. Just made the titles look weak, and the main events seem even more worthless.

a long reign for either title would really help and make alot of things seem more important.
 
That really depends on how long of a reign. 6 or seven months, yeah, over a year? Definitely not. People don't want to see the same guy come out and win month after month, and it would easily get stale. I don't want to see the title change month after month of course, but overly long reigns will get boring after a while. Orton has had a decent reign, minus the day or so Batista was champion.
 
I think a long title run should be given to the undertaker, why? because he is getting to the end of his career and lately he has become a "jobber" putting over younger superstars making him look pathetic. Where he used to be one of the most feared superstars wwe had. give him 1 more nice long run before he hangs em up.. make him the feared phenom that he once was

Dude, there's a huge difference between losing matches and being a jobber. Taker has been booked dominantly in just about every feud he's had since about 2004. He lost to Edge a few times, sure, but he wound up chokeslamming him through the ring remember? He absolutely dominated Big Show in their feud, then went on to beat HBK at Mania. Taker is still portrayed as one of the most feared wrestlers in the WWE. Punk definately needs a long reign more than Taker.
 
i think no. I love when on any given night a new champion could be crowned. One of the reason that i liked when they added the 24/7 rule to the hardcore belt. What killed that though is when refs and randomn people started winning it
 
I was looking at the thread for "what was your favorite wwe title reign" thread earlier, and a lot of people were saying cena's year-long reign, or orton's that came right after it. Those two title reigns lasted several months, way longer than most of the title reigns we have seen in recent years.

I definately think it would benefit the wwe to have long title reigns again. The ratings would go up because more people would be watching to see their hero (if a face) or someone they hate (if a heel) to see who finally defeats them, it could also be used to get someone new into the main event in terms of the person who ends the long reign.

For mine.... I would go with having Cena win at Breaking Point then give him a very long wwe title reign. Like him or not (I know some don't) you know that you would be watching to see who finally beats him, just like in 06-07. I would then have him win against heels who haven't had as much of a chance at the belt (in other words NOT orton or HHH!) then by wrestlemania give someone more established a chance. I would say Orton, have Orton win at wrestlemania and start a similarly long reign from there, kind of like the "age of orton" one from 07-08 and then have a NEW face beat him in the end (NOT HHH or Cena!).

Do you think there should be another title reign that lasts a really long time, as in a whole school-year or longer? If so, who would you like to see with the belt for that long, and why?
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i dreaded his year
His matches were always terrible
if i ever see a title reign like that from cena again, i would switch to TNA(which i don't watch that much.)
If i ever would want a new long reign, i would want it from
CM PUNK
he is doing a great job with the belt, and to hold it untill wm will build up both the belt and cm punk
 
Ok like I said this is why Undertaker needs a long title run, they screw him over every way that they can. Example watch the ppv. this is not the first time....
 
I kind of hope one is in the making, and that man is Christian. His entire program I believe now is to build up the worth of the ECW Championship. If he holds it for 4000 days or whatnot, and finally loses it to someone of worth in a big time feud, that belt is going to be worth a lot. I am not sure currently who should beat him yet, but there are alwas up and comers who should get that chance if the WWE sees a bright future in them. So yeah, I say that Christian should keep it for at least 400 days.
 
I totally agree dude like.... I hate what the WWE's doing right now with World Titles.... When you don't have long title reigns and you keep the same guys on the Main Event level, guys just become 5,6,7,8,9 time Champions and in a 1-2 year time span

It's ridiculous, I mean who doesn't remember the long title reigns of the likes of
JBL on Smackdown, one of the most hated guys in the history of the show...
next to of course King Booker.... (enough said)
Undertaker (Bad Ass) Great Long Title reign by a great Character Heel
Cena, Orton sure it's already been said....

Do you remember back in the day when Triple H used to Always have the title... had long reigns and put over many wrestlers by Faction and by opponent... that's what you get from long title reigns...

Randy Orton's Title reign has gone on for longer than expected judging what WWE has been doing with the World title and WWE title previously but he's kept it put Raw back on top and even though he just lost it it was fairly long and a great job by WWE management...

Long title reigns also help with story lines, making it easier to come up with ideas...
 
Oh yes, let's have a year long title reign. I love those. Now if only the boards would. I wouldn't have to hear all the complaints.

The way I see it, long reigns serve one of two purposes. They either A) Build up a wrestler, or B) Serve to build up the title and ratings. I see the current title scenario as a perfect scenario to do either one, or both.

For situation A, let's look at CM Punk. He can be on cusp of a extra feud with the Undertaker, Morrison, and anyone else from that diverse Smackdown mid-card. Everyone has been whining about Punk's lack of credibility, well here you go. Give Punk a year long title reign, and he's instantly credible. Worked for John Cena.

For sitiuation B, let's look at John Cena. He won the title tonight, (OH HELL YEAH!), and for only one reason as I can see. Get the belt off of Orton and get those ratings up. Raw sees noticeable jumps whenever Cena is on TV and/or champion. This move is to help ratings that are rebounding back and forth due to the varied responses from Raw Guest Hosts. Also, a lengthy reign with Cena at the helm has never hurt that title. It's not like they're going to lose much.
 
Yes, there needs to be another really long title reign. These short ones don't do anything justice at all unless that person is being used as a transitional for the another deserving candidate to take the title off. The longer the title reign, the more interesting it becomes to see if someone can knock the champion off of his pedistool, the longer the feuds between superstars can be & the prestige can climb into the positive.

After the BP PPV, you have three champions holding the title that can benefit in holding the title for a long time. Cena = ratings & is the face of WWE, Punk needs to finally be placed into the main event & become a legit solid worker & Christian is carrying the brand & can bring prestige back to ECW & their title.
 
i think Punk should have a long reign because he does the best heel promos (2nd after Jericho) and he can vandalize the belt and stuff like i mentioned in another thread i posted because of his straightedge shit. so yes i think punk should have a long title reign
 
Yes, there needs to be another really long title reign. These short ones don't do anything justice at all unless that person is being used as a transitional for the another deserving candidate to take the title off. The longer the title reign, the more interesting it becomes to see if someone can knock the champion off of his pedistool, the longer the feuds between superstars can be & the prestige can climb into the positive.

After the BP PPV, you have three champions holding the title that can benefit in holding the title for a long time. Cena = ratings & is the face of WWE, Punk needs to finally be placed into the main event & become a legit solid worker & Christian is carrying the brand & can bring prestige back to ECW & their title.

I think the six months between now and WM the respective champions should hold onto their belts. Cena I feel should hold the belt for a little longer then that but 7 months or so for a heel champion would solidify punk without getting stale and I think Christian has been champion for 3 months or so already so a 9 month reign would be a good rub for whomever would end it at the grandaddy of them all.

Could not agree more that long reigns are beneficial.
 
The current champions should hold onto the gold until mania and maybe IDK...I guess Cena could walk out still champion, but yes there should be another title reign. Not just to build prestige to the title so it's not constantly going back and forth, but to make the champion holding the belt that much more credible. It doesn't matter which champion it is, but a short title reign usually can only hurt them more than help IMO.
 
I would be perfectly fine with Christian having a very long ECW title reign. There's only one person on ECW right now that I'd like to see as ECW champion outside of him, and its Shelton Benjamin, as even though I like Zack Ryder, I don't know if he's ready for singles gold. But if you were to have Shelton win the title from Christian at WrestleMania at the EARLIEST, with Christian not dropping it to anybody before then, it would help the belt's credibility a lot - as well as Christian's credibility, allowing him to move to Raw or Smackdown and be placed in the main event without it seeming weird.

The WWE and WHC titles, I think when we have one champion for a really long time, the fans just get tired of seeing the same thing. Part of this is because WWE loves to repeat the same thing as many times as they possibly can, past the point of "let's see if we can get away with it one more time", and into "let's see if we can get away with never changing it up", so another year long "Cena gets beaten down for every part of the feud except for a hulk-up moment at the end of each title defense" reign again would be a pain in the ass.

Rather than having one giant title reign to switch things up, how about they just stop it with the 1 day/week/month reigns and make it a little more lengthy? I would be fine with having a new champ every 4 months assuming the matches and feuds delivered along with it.
 
I can't see this sort of thing working to be honest. The times have changed and people tend to switch off of large and long title reigns. Long title reigns only work when a face holds the title, I don't thin a heel has ever held a titleCena and HHH dominations have been done to death, and the only other two face options are Undertaker, Batista and Michaels. Batista is old, Michaels doesn't win titles and The Undertaker is one of the worst champions in the business. As a result, there isn't really a viable option.

What certainly wouldn't hurt anyone is for the IC, US or even ECW title to be held, and regularly defended, for months on end. IfKofi Kingston holds on to the US Title the way he has been doing so, by the time he drops it next year he will have main event, or at least ECW main event credibility, and the stock of the title would be raised. So for a midcard title, there's no harm, but for a main event title, it'd get boring.
 
I was looking at the thread for "what was your favorite wwe title reign" thread earlier, and a lot of people were saying cena's year-long reign, or orton's that came right after it. Those two title reigns lasted several months, way longer than most of the title reigns we have seen in recent years.

I definately think it would benefit the wwe to have long title reigns again. The ratings would go up because more people would be watching to see their hero (if a face) or someone they hate (if a heel) to see who finally defeats them, it could also be used to get someone new into the main event in terms of the person who ends the long reign.

For mine.... I would go with having Cena win at Breaking Point then give him a very long wwe title reign. Like him or not (I know some don't) you know that you would be watching to see who finally beats him, just like in 06-07. I would then have him win against heels who haven't had as much of a chance at the belt (in other words NOT orton or HHH!) then by wrestlemania give someone more established a chance. I would say Orton, have Orton win at wrestlemania and start a similarly long reign from there, kind of like the "age of orton" one from 07-08 and then have a NEW face beat him in the end (NOT HHH or Cena!).

Do you think there should be another title reign that lasts a really long time, as in a whole school-year or longer? If so, who would you like to see with the belt for that long, and why?
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If the WWE would actually do a long Title reign, I would like to see Cena do it. As a matter of fact, if Cena is going to do it, I would like to see him break the records. Granted, it’s going to take 7 + years to break Bruno’s record (8 + years to break the combined record of 11 + also held by Mr. Sammartino), but if anyone is going to do it in this day and age, it SHOULD be the face of the company. Plus Triple H is too old to pull this off now. Besides, we have the World Title and ECW Title to use for Title changes. Would we be able to accept an 8 year run with John Hogan…I mean, Hulk Cena…I mean, you know what I mean. We could see a Heel turn, then a Face turn, then another Heel turn, then another Face turn all in that time. Challengers from all over the World would step up and fall down. He could even have Vince’s help at Year 5 (of 8). What do you think??
 
A long title reign for CM Punk would be great. They don't have to worry about wellness violations with him, so there's no issues in that respect. As far as a booking standpoint, it's great to have a heel champ that no one can take the title from. The challengers can all be made to be able to beat Punk by pinning him in non title matches, tag matches, etc. But, when the title's on the line Punk always comes out on top by cheating, getting dq'd or whatever means neccesary. Eventually someone in line to become the next face of the brand, maybe Morrison, beats Punk at Wrestlemania. It's just my opinion but I always enjoy the face chasing the heel, and the heel doing whatever it takes to keep the belt. It seems to work better with an emotional payoff when the belt finally switches hands. Of course whoever chases needs to be someone the fans care about. The only other person who has the all around skills to pull off a long reign like this is Jericho. That would be awesome too. If it were to happen, and i hope it does, these two have the all around abililties to pull it off.
 

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