Should I make the Legends Tournament a yearly thing?

[Hyorinmaru]

Premise Two

You're thread about women of pro wrestling goes no further than wikipedia.

Just because I post Wikipeia doesn't mean I don't study more than just that because I do

Therefore

You have no interest in women's pro wrestling.

Wrong I have a huge interest in it

 

[Tastycles]

If you know more about it, why not add more to your posts. I understand what your doing, but your asking for requests off people and then churning out wikipedia articles. What's the point? Say Murfisjh asks for Audrey Bitoni, why would he bother reading your thread when he can check out her pornopedia instead? (which if it doesn't exist, should).

You should either just do people that we may not have heard of or go into more detail than what is on wikipedia.

 

[Gelgarin]

It's nice to know you can read people's mind over the internet and tell what people have interest in or have knowledge of.

Nice attitude, really brings back deja vu of the original tournament.
Anyway, I said my piece, but since you threw a bitch slap my way and quite evidently enjoy the attention, I'll indulge you by explaining my thought process.

My first clue came in the fact that your last attempt to discern the most legendary professional wrestler of all time included names such as IRS, Michael Hayes, Arn Anderson and two men who are only remembered because their sperm cells contributed to the existence of The Rock, but did not include many of the most important names from the earliest periods of wrestling history.
This suggested to me that you had extremely limited knowledge/interest in that aspect of wrestling. It also suggests that you shouldn't be running a tournament on the subject.

Then there was your continued failure to appear in the pioneer era section of the forum. Now I'l grant that this one was hard to pick up on due to everyone else failing to show up there as well, but thankfully enough I always seek to apply due diligence to my assertions.

If I sound like I'm talkin' funny it's because I'm not taking this seriously.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

If you know more about it, why not add more to your posts. I understand what your doing, but your asking for requests off people and then churning out wikipedia articles. What's the point? Say Murfisjh asks for Audrey Bitoni, why would he bother reading your thread when he can check out her pornopedia instead? (which if it doesn't exist, should).

You should either just do people that we may not have heard of or go into more detail than what is on wikipedia.

How do I know who you guys have or have not heard of? The age range is so different on here that there are people who may have started watching last week who don't know who Trish Stratus is and there are people who can go all the way back to Fabulous Moolah and her first title reign

 

[Hyorinmaru]

Nice attitude, really brings back deja vu of the original tournament.
Anyway, I said my piece, but since you threw a bitch slap my way and quite evidently enjoy the attention, I'll indulge you by explaining my thought process.

My first clue came in the fact that your last attempt to discern the most legendary professional wrestler of all time included names such as IRS, Michael Hayes, Arn Anderson and two men who are only remembered because their sperm cells contributed to the existence of The Rock, but did not include many of the most important names from the earliest periods of wrestling history.
This suggested to me that you had extremely limited knowledge/interest in that aspect of wrestling. It also suggests that you shouldn't be running a tournament on the subject.

When I set up the list last time I had no idea what I was doing. In all honesty i was learning about a lot of the guys in it as we went along. If I was to do it again there would be a lot more of the people I missed last time.

Then there was your continued failure to appear in the pioneer era section of the forum. Now I'l grant that this one was hard to pick up on due to everyone else failing to show up there as well, but thankfully enough I always seek to apply due diligence to my assertions.

I don't post anywhere that often especially a place where any thread i make will only get 1 reply

If I sound like I'm talkin' funny it's because I'm not taking this seriously.

I'm sorry if I came off looking like an asshole that wasn't my intention.

 

[Tastycles]

How do I know who you guys have or have not heard of? The age range is so different on here that there are people who may have started watching last week who don't know who Trish Stratus is and there are people who can go all the way back to Fabulous Moolah and her first title reign

But seriously, what's the point in that. Your sig has who is upcoming, I can prempt your post now

Spoiler: Velvet sky

Jamie Szantyr (born June 2, 1981)[5] is an American professional wrestler currently working for Total Nonstop Action Wrestling under the ring name Velvet Sky. She also works outside of TNA as Talia Madison.
Contents
[hide]

* 1 Professional wrestling career
o 1.1 Early career
o 1.2 Total Nonstop Action Wrestling
+ 1.2.1 The Beautiful People
* 2 Personal life
* 3 In wrestling
* 4 Championships and accomplishments
* 5 References
* 6 External links

[edit] Professional wrestling career

[edit] Early career

Szantyr was trained to wrestle at Jason Knight's "House of Pain Pro Wrestling Dojo".[5] After completing her training, she began working as a valet and wrestler on the independent circuit using the ring names Miss Talia, Talia Doll, and Talia Madison. On the independent circuit, she formed a tag team known as T&A with April Hunter.[4] She was booked to her first wrestling championship during her time in World Xtreme Wrestling, getting the WXW Women's Championship after winning a battle royal on May 29, 2004.[7]

Szantyr made a few appearances in World Wrestling Entertainment in 2005 and 2006.[6] On the February 24, 2005 edition of WWE SmackDown!, she appeared as an extra during the JBL "Celebration of Excellence" party. She was then defeated by Victoria on July 11 in a match taped for WWE Heat.[8] On January 2, 2006, she and Trinity were planted in the front row of the audience to be selected to dance with The Heart Throbs after their match in another Heat segment.[9] She also auditioned for the 2007 Diva Search, but did not make the final eight.[6][10]

As Talia Madison, she held Defiant Pro Wrestling Women's title, which she got on April 8, 2006 after defeating Alere Little Feather and Nikki Roxx in a three-way match.[4] She also wrestled in Women's Extreme Wrestling as Talia Doll, where she and April Hunter held the WEW Tag Team titles. The duo, known as T&A, defeated Amber O'Neal and Lollipop to get the title on WEW's April 6, 2006 pay-per-view.[11] She also held the WEW World Women's title (as Talia Madison), defeating Angel Orsini on May 5 2007.[4]

[edit] Total Nonstop Action Wrestling

When Total Nonstop Action Wrestling (TNA) announced the creation of their women's division in 2007, Szantyr, using her Talia Madison ring name, was announced as one of the ten wrestlers in a 10-woman Gauntlet match to crown the first TNA Women's World Champion at Bound for Glory pay-per-view.[12] Before the show she made non-wrestling appearances on the October 5 episode of TNA Today[13] and the October 11 Impact!, standing at ringside for the debut match of Awesome Kong along with the other gauntlet match participants. In the weeks following the gauntlet match, her ring name was changed to Velvet Sky.

[edit] The Beautiful People
Main article: The Beautiful People
Angelina Love (left) and Velvet Sky as The Beautiful People

At the December Turning Point pay-per-view, Sky and Angelina Love were paired together and dubbed "Velvet Love Entertainment",[14] later renamed to "The Beautiful People". After defeating O.D.B. and Roxxi Laveaux early in the show, Love and Sky assisted Gail Kim in her match against Awesome Kong.[14] They assisted Kim again after another match against Kong on the December 6 edition of Impact! and at Final Resolution pay-per-view, helping to stop a brawl post match.[15]

On the March 13 edition of Impact!, Sky and Love attacked Roxxi Laveaux and later that night Gail Kim, thus becoming heels for the first time in TNA. At Lockdown, Sky participated in the first ever "Queen of the Cage" match, which was won by Laveaux. Sky participated in the Make Over Battle Royal-Ladder Match at Sacrifice, which was won by Gail Kim. The two later added another factor to their gimmicks, placing brown paper bags over opponents heads. On July 17 episode of Impact!, Sky won a Knockouts Battle Royal for number one contendership to the Women's Knockout Championship, but lost the title match the next week as well as two more title matches immediately following to then champion Taylor Wilde.

The Beautiful People began associating with Cute Kip, who become known as their "fashionist". At Bound for Glory IV, The Beautiful People and Cute Kip were defeated by ODB, Rhaka Khan, and Rhino.

In April of 2009, the team gained a new member in Madison Rayne after Kip departed the group to become a road agent. Sky was in Love's corner when she defeated Kong and Wilde to claim the TNA Women's Knockout Championship at Lockdown.

[edit] Personal life

In high school, Szantyr competed in cheerleading, softball, cross-country, and track.[6] Szantyr is currently in a relationship with WWE superstar Gregory Helms.[16] She is also good friends with Matt and Jeff Hardy, Shannon Moore as well as her Beautiful People partner, Lauren Williams. She has several tattoos including a pattern on her left biceps, a small rose with dead plants on her lower back, a rose on her upper back on the right side, a star on her left thumb, and has a navel piercing.

[edit] In wrestling

* Finishing and signature moves

* Beauty Mark[17] (Double knee backbreaker or a straight jacket sitout sleeper slam) – TNA
* Blonde Ambition[3] (Diving neckbreaker) – Independent circuit
* Re-TALIA-tion[4] (Straight jacket sitout sleeper slam) – Independent circuit
* Spinning facebuster, sometimes from the top rope
* Diving crossbody
* Hurricanrana
* Northern lights suplex[4]
* Octopus stretch while biting the trapped arm, sometimes into a sunset flip
* Reverse bulldog[4]
* Running front dropkick
* Russian legsweep
* Sitout jawbreaker
* Snapmare followed by a shoot kick to the back of the opponent's head
* Stink face
* Triangle choke[3]

* With Angelina Love

* Makeover[1] (Russian legsweep (Sky) / Bicycle kick (Love) combination)
* Hollering Elbow (Double elbow drop, with theatrics)

* With Madison Rayne

* Double straight jacket sleeper slam

* Wrestlers managed

* The Brain Surgeons
* Danny Demanto
* Simon Diamond
* Romeo Roselli
* Matt Striker
* John Walters
* Dylan Kage
* Jason Knight

* Entrance themes

* "Goodies" by Ciara (WXW)
* "Just a Lil Bit" by 50 Cent (Independent circuit)
* "Don't Even Lie" by Dale Oliver (Cover of "Polyamorous" by Breaking Benjamin) (TNA)
* "Angel On My Shoulder" by Dale Oliver (TNA; Used while teaming with Angelina Love. This later became the tag team's official theme when they became The Beautiful People, with Sky also adopting this as her solo theme. They have continued to use this theme, including slightly modified versions and remixes, throughout their run as The Beautiful People.)

[edit] Championships and accomplishments

* Defiant Pro Wrestling

* DPW Women's Championship (1 time)[18]

* Georgia Wrestling Alliance

* GWA Ladies Championship (1 time)[19]

* Pro Wrestling Illustrated

* PWI ranked her #23 of the best 50 female singles wrestlers in the PWI Female 50 in 2008[20]

* Universal Wrestling Association

* UWA Women's Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Ariel

* Women's Extreme Wrestling

* WEW World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[21]
* WEW World Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with April Hunter (1) and Tiffany Madison (1)[11]

* World Xtreme Wrestling

* WXW Women's Championship (1 time)[7]

Thus you have offered nothing but a name that somebody else suggested. You proudly take credit for the thread, even though somebody else suggested the wrestlers and BetaCommandBot had more of a say in the content than you did.

 

[E7]

no. Stop with these fucking tournaments.

 

[Gelgarin]

I don't post anywhere that often especially a place where any thread i make will only get 1 reply.

Ding. Ding. Ding. By dint of a fiendish web of words, Gelgarin has successfully ensnared his unworthy adversary and now declared victory.
You yourself just said, people don't post about old school wrestling. Nobody posted about it last time you failed with this thing, and that was when you actually had some interest going into the event. This time round nobody wants it, and you seriously think it's a sensible option.

Me thinks you just want the satisfaction of running something.

I'm sorry if I came off looking like an asshole that wasn't my intention.

Seems to be a pretty recurring event with you doesn't it. Possibly it would be a worth while investment to work on your constant squabbling before you start managing projects.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

But seriously, what's the point in that. Your sig has who is upcoming, I can prempt your post now.

The point is I enjoy doing it. There are also 2 G-mods that have said they would fight for it if it got locked and if your curious I can find the proof

Thus you have offered nothing but a name that somebody else suggested. You proudly take credit for the thread, even though somebody else suggested the wrestlers and BetaCommandBot had more of a say in the content than you did.

Really why the fuck does it matter how I do it? You people sound like your jealous that you didn't come up with it first or something else just as petty

 

[Hyorinmaru]

Ding. Ding. Ding. By dint of a fiendish web of words, Gelgarin has successfully ensnared his unworthy adversary and now declared victory.
You yourself just said, people don't post about old school wrestling. Nobody posted about it last time you failed with this thing, and that was when you actually had some interest going into the event. This time round nobody wants it, and you seriously think it's a sensible option.

Me thinks you just want the satisfaction of running something.

That and i enjoyed doing it last time

Seems to be a pretty recurring event with you doesn't it. Possibly it would be a worth while investment to work on your constant squabbling before you start managing projects.

anger issues would be a better term than constant squabbling

 

[Murfish]

Really why the fuck does it matter how I do it? You people sound like your jealous that you didn't come up with it first or something else just as petty

LOL

That's fucking rich. I'm jealous of plagiarism? How about I'm tired the the constant promotion of those threads(which has calmed down since the backlash) and the fact that you pass it off as your own.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

Why do you people care so much then? Please enlighten me.

 

[Gelgarin]

anger issues would be a better term than constant squabbling

You provoke squabbles constantly, so I felt vindicated in my terminology. You don't have anger issues. Nobody on the internet has anger issues. If something on the internet was actually causing you to experience anger then you'd turn the computer off.

What I'm fast coming to the conclusion that you have is a constant, unshakable need for attention. This is presumably why you want to run a tournament that nobody wants, and why you keep provoking petty little arguments with people.

 

[Tastycles]

The point is I enjoy doing it. There are also 2 G-mods that have said they would fight for it if it got locked and if your curious I can find the proof
Really why the fuck does it matter how I do it? You people sound like your jealous that you didn't come up with it first or something else just as petty

Yes it does, because you proudly go on about it at every instance even though you put in literally no work into it whatsoever. How hard would it be to splice in a few matches and get a few anecdotes from here and there. I don't give a shit if two G-mods like it or not, the fact of the matter is that anyone could do it. If I was petty, I'd go into the thread and do a better job of everyone you have already done, but that would be pointless. I'm sure that some G-Mods have written something positive about me at some stage, but I don't require constant reassurance and to remind everyone of the position. I also don't feel the need to make threads questioning why nobody has suggested I should be a mod, I don't need the pat on the back.

I'm not jealous at all. I hardly ever start threads, it isn't my strong point, and when I do start them, I don't post a thread about them in the bar room so that everyone can tell me how great I am, or worse make a thtread asking the mods where to put it, when they will blates move it if it is in the wrong place like they always do. Responding to your question is no different whatsoever to them just moving it in the effort stakes, so don't play the "making it easier" card.

My only idea is one similar to Shadowmancers wrestler of the week, but for luchadors, as nobody knows anything about them. Not even BetaCommandBot, and I'll be doing it shortly.

 

[Murfish]

Why do you people care so much then? Please enlighten me.

Did I say plagiarism?

*checks*

Yeah, I did. It rubs some people the wrong way. Your false sense of superiority doesn't help matters.

 

[X]

Just give it up Milenko. Nobody wants you to do the tournament. You asked us, and we told you no. If you're just going to ignore our answer, then why did you ask the question in the first place?

Your tournament idea is fucking POINTLESS because half of the guys that are going to be in it were already in the WZ Tourny. This forum doesn't have an unlimited amount of storage y'know.

And the Wikipedia thing...I was really defending you at first man, but now it's just getting absurd. If you don't know what you're talking about, then don't post threads on it. Copy and pasting from Wikipedia is okay sometimes, but not every single damn time. Honestly man it makes you look like a total moron.

No offense, because I like you Milenko. But nobody wants this.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

Just give it up Milenko. Nobody wants you to do the tournament. You asked us, and we told you no. If you're just going to ignore our answer, then why did you ask the question in the first place?

Your tournament idea is fucking POINTLESS because half of the guys that are going to be in it were already in the WZ Tourny. This forum doesn't have an unlimited amount of storage y'know.

I won't do it again that's not the point anymore

And the Wikipedia thing...I was really defending you at first man, but now it's just getting absurd. If you don't know what you're talking about, then don't post threads on it. Copy and pasting from Wikipedia is okay sometimes, but not every single damn time. Honestly man it makes you look like a total moron.

It's one thread, one fucking thread It's not that hard to ignore if you don't llike the way I'm doing it. I got the ok so do i this way so I don't honestly see the problem.

 

[justinsayne]

And the Wikipedia thing...I was really defending you at first man, but now it's just getting absurd. If you don't know what you're talking about, then don't post threads on it. Copy and pasting from Wikipedia is okay sometimes, but not every single damn time. Honestly man it makes you look like a total moron.

No offense, because I like you Milenko. But nobody wants this.

Back when I was doing the my Music Asylum I used Wiki did some copy and paste with Wiki, it was faster an easier than just typing all the shit myself, I cleaned it up a bit though too, and I also added my own take on the band at the end of each post though too, as well as videos, from what I gather Juggs is just copy and pasting shit form Wiki, IDK I haven't actually looked at his thread mainly because I don't give a fuck about women's wrestling

 

[Tastycles]

It's one thread, one fucking thread It's not that hard to ignore if you don't llike the way I'm doing it. I got the ok so do i this way so I don't honestly see the problem.

But it is hard to ignore. I read it first, realised I was reading Wikipedia and left. There are far worse threads, and appreciating the point, I let it be. However, you can't ignore it when everytime you make a thread you need to "check it's ok", "generate interest", "stir up people who don't like you" by posting a bar room thread. There's no need.

I don't dislike you, or anyone else for that matter, but constant self promotion is unecessary and irritating to say the least.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

But it is hard to ignore. I read it first, realised I was reading Wikipedia and left. There are far worse threads, and appreciating the point, I let it be. However, you can't ignore it when everytime you make a thread you need to "check it's ok", "generate interest", "stir up people who don't like you" by posting a bar room thread. There's no need.

I haven't made ay thread in the bar room at least for a few days before I made this one

I don't dislike you, or anyone else for that matter, but constant self promotion is unecessary and irritating to say the least.

Outside of 1 post where I was joking I haven't self-promoted in weeks

 

[48.7 is Approximately 49 Times Better Than You]

I'm expecting a massive and epic Gelgarin post.

 

[It's...Baylariat!]

We should do a sweet 16 Fast Food Restaraunt Tourney. I'd back White Castle and Arby's.

 

[48.7 is Approximately 49 Times Better Than You]

I am fully planning on backing Arbys.

 

[Gelgarin]

Lol. Tempting, but if I was going to put that amount of time in then I'd start my own quality thread on women's wrestling.

Unfortunately, on a hypothetical "worth my time" scale, Milenko is about as far from Lou Thesz as it is possible to get and as such, snide and bitchy comments about his attention seeking nature are all we're getting tonight.

 

[BooCocky]

I am officially a Gelgarin and Tastycles mark.