Should a MITB Briefcase Holder Be a WWE Champion as Well?

[pepentorresHHH]

With Seth Rollins about to get into the Main Event of The Royal Rumble, there is a good probability he could walk out as the WWE champion....without even having to cash in his MITB briefcase... That got me thinking.

Should it be allowed for someone who already has the briefcase to be wwe champion as well? it seems like a waste since he didn't even need the briefcase to begin with. Guys like Edge (on his second MITB run), John Cena, Randy Orton were established enough to get world title matches without the briefcase. So whats the point?

Seth Rollins in this case shouldn't be allowed to win the title while having the briefcase.... what do you think??
the only reason for someone to have the mite and be champion would be to immediately cash in after losing the world title to get it right back

what do you think?

 

[tvcolosi]

That's one of those things maybe you'd never do but if you did. you could really only do once. So it would have to be just right, right guy, right opponents, right story, and have the pay off known before you start.

it could be a fun gimmick where when the time comes and he loses the belt he is siccesful cashing in moments later. Since it has the short gimmick change effect that even more a reason that it should only happen in perfect circumstances...

to the best of my knowledge this is the first time the Case holder is in a championship match. though i guess when they had 2 cases and 2 belts it may have happened.

 

[TheICChampion]

to the best of my knowledge this is the first time the Case holder is in a championship match. though i guess when they had 2 cases and 2 belts it may have happened.

Edge in 2005 as well, he held MitB in addition to winning the Gold Rush tournament for a shot at the World Heavyweight title. I dunno, I think MAYBE it could work, but it would be kinda detrimental to the WWE title if you were to lose it, cash in and manage to get it back right away. It'd be like, what was the point of them booking him to lose it if he was just going to win it back 2 minutes later?

 

[bioshock]

How about the kayfabe fact that if Seth becomes champion, and does lose the belt that he has the "rematch clause" so again the MITB would be useless, but of course you know how WWE works.. Azz backwards. Writers prolly forget he is even MITB holder and can cash in, until someone else reminds them.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Eh, it's one of those things that, as has been mentioned, I think would only really work if WWE did it once and never did it again. The problem, however, is that I have no faith in Vince's ability to leave it alone.

At the same time, it's also one of those things that people will probably either really like or really hate. There'll be very little, if any, middle ground to be found. On one side, you'll have those who like it say that it adds a unique dimension to the MITB concept that wasn't there before and it's a mean to keep it fresh. On the other side, you'll have those who'll say that it completely undermines the point of the MITB concept as a whole. Both sides are right but, again, only if it's something that's done once and only once. More than once, then it definitely undermines the concept to a degree that renders it all but worthless.

 

[ColeMc]

I swear it used to be that the contract was valid for one year and after that is was useless.

They have made no mention of this so it was quite clear to me they either intended for him to have it still at WM31, or they had zero clue about where to run with it.

I'd like to think it was the former, but I suspect it was the latter.

 

[@smarkmouth]

How about the kayfabe fact that if Seth becomes champion, and does lose the belt that he has the "rematch clause" so again the MITB would be useless, but of course you know how WWE works.. Azz backwards. Writers prolly forget he is even MITB holder and can cash in, until someone else reminds them.

You could have your rematch claus, followed by a cash in, no?

Aside from Seth's placement in this match, I thought something similar was going to happen in 2011. After Punk's Pipebomb, he was suspended, which lead to a triple threat match for number one contendership. Then-MITB-Holder Alberto Del Rio won the match, but it was declared moot as Cena had Punk reinstated. It's stated by above posters, but it can only happen once. It has to be a unique scenario because it's uniquely creative. If Seth wins, or had ADR became champion in 2011, it would be the "insured" World Champion.

I don't understand those calling the scenario nonsense. On paper, sure, it sounds like it could be disastrous, but it wouldn't take much creative thinking to get the scenario to a good place.

 

[chuckmdubya]

There must be a plan in the works here. Its totally illogical for him to be in the match. If they want the strap on Rollins they would have him cash in. It is almost a guarantee that he will not win the match, there has to be another reason for him to be there. Easiest guess would be to put him over as a stronger heel, or possibly to create a beef between him and the winner.
I'd think the only conceivable reason for a wrestler to hold both at the same time is if he were an untouchable guy. If he is either that much of a bad ass or he works for the Authority. I wouldn't put it past WWE to put Rollins up that high, but I Really doubt it. So in that regard, I could see that happening but would not be happy with it as a fan.

 

[Navi]

I swear it used to be that the contract was valid for one year and after that is was useless.

They have made no mention of this so it was quite clear to me they either intended for him to have it still at WM31, or they had zero clue about where to run with it.

I'd like to think it was the former, but I suspect it was the latter.

It still will be valid come Wrestlemania, he won it at the end of June last year, so he still has 6 months left on the 1 year contract. The reason he hasn't cashed it in yet is because when he tried the first couple of times, Ambrose blocked him from doing so. Then Lesnar won the title and basically pissed off with it. Rollins hasn't even had a champion around for him to try and cash in on.

Now on topic, I don't think it's ever been done before where the MITB holder is in a title match. So I can see a number of things happening.

Either he wins the title at the Rumble and loses the case. He wins the title and keeps the case, that would be stupid though. He loses the match and cashes in the briefcase on either Cena or Lesnar.

Either way he has three chances to win the title. Win it outright, with lots of interference from the posse. Use the case and cash it in, or win it on the rematch clause.

If Rollins with all these chances, which it much more than anyone else has received in a long time can't win, then something is wrong.

 

[laodaron]

It would be stupid to give Rollins the belt and the briefcase. A better solution is to have Brock win Sunday night, but then have Rollins cash in immediately after an Authority beatdown on Brock and then Rollins wins. That way Brock still retains, Rollins gets the cash-in, Cena never gets pinned, and we can move forward from a terribly booked triple threat.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

You could have your rematch claus, followed by a cash in, no?

Aside from Seth's placement in this match, I thought something similar was going to happen in 2011. After Punk's Pipebomb, he was suspended, which lead to a triple threat match for number one contendership. Then-MITB-Holder Alberto Del Rio won the match, but it was declared moot as Cena had Punk reinstated. It's stated by above posters, but it can only happen once. It has to be a unique scenario because it's uniquely creative. If Seth wins, or had ADR became champion in 2011, it would be the "insured" World Champion.

I don't understand those calling the scenario nonsense. On paper, sure, it sounds like it could be disastrous, but it wouldn't take much creative thinking to get the scenario to a good place.

Exactly... you lose the belt, invoke your rematch, lose that and THEN cash in so guaranteed to get the belt back... It'd be a great angle to run or a one off scenario/match... even call it a Double Jepoardy match... the challenger can load it up against the champ who took their belt, so the champ has to pin them 2 or potentially 3 times to walk out the event with their title. It'd be perfect for someone like Barrett, wins his first title on tour in the UK, loses it quickly but has "bad news" for the champion... They did kind of do this a few years back when Triple H had the title at the start, lost it and walked out the champ at the end... it did pretty well as I remember.

 

[JoeFromTomsRiver]

I think it would be great. Partly just because it's never been done before, but mostly because it adds a new dynamic to the Champion's run. He basically has an Insurance policy on his championship. So if he loses the title, he gets an automatic rematch. Then, if he doesn't win that, he cashes in and gets it back. Or depending on the circumstances, you could have him lose the cash in also. A guy who had it all, the Title, the Briefcase, but left with nothing. Lots of different ways to go, I'd like to see it.

 

[Heartbreak_Kid_707]

It's already been mentioned but I think it will go 2 ways.

1) lesnar and cena best the crap out of each other while Rollins ducks in and out of the ring. Then the bell rings ending the match and Rollins immediately cashes in on the winner, leaving as the champ., or..

2) the suitcase will barley be mentioned and the triple threat match goes on with Lesnar dominating and they set him up to meet the God awful Roman Riegns st mania.

Frankly I am a Rollins fan so I hope it's the first. Lesnar is a monster and they are gonna keep the belt on him till mania. They have to much time, money, and booking in him to not headline mania. As a fan I'm hoping wwe pulls something crazy and unexpected off.

 

[Hoke Hogan]

I think that the champion could hold the briefcase... lose the title, evoke his rematch clause and get himself intentionally DQ'ed while laying out his opponent and then cash it in to get the title back. I wouldn't mind this scenario with Rollins and Daniel Bryan really.

 

[Logisticalbooker86]

At this point, I'm on board with anything I haven't seen before as it relates to the MITB briefcase. The issue is that we are right in the middle of Wrestlemania season.

WWE has been chomping at the bit for this part of the calendar to come back around because the allure of Wrestlemania represents the E's best chance to increase the number of subscribers to the network. What happens with Seth Rollins this Sunday is totally dependent on their confidence level in him - Ultimately, I think Vinny Mac and company will stick with Lesnar as champion up to Mania.

Seth Rolilins has fought his way up the WWE ladder, if he becomes champion while having the briefcase it will wreak of stacking the odds and overkill, which are traits the authority has become known for. It is a good idea considering the way Rollins has been booked.

Will it happen? Nah. Lesnar retains at the Rumble, puts over Reigns at Mania - Rollins cashes in on the night of or the RAW after, putting the Roman Empire back in chase the strap mode.

 

[Dagger Dias]

Everyone is always whining about how the same old thing happens with Money In The Bank each year. Opportunistic heel cashes in on weak World Champion. Been there done that. This would offer something different. Seth Rollins should win the World Heavyweight Championship while STILL having the briefcase available. This would get him a ton of heel heat because instead of the briefcase being a weapon, suddenly it becomes a shield. Imagine his promos. He could speak of having been the one to create and destroy The Shield faction, now he has his very own "Shield" and holds up the briefcase pointing out that his challenger would have to defeat him twice in the same night.

WWE really should consider this at least once. With Rollins and the past year he has had, it would be brilliant. Picture him winning this sunday, doing the promo mentioned above, and then Ambrose or Bryan beating him twice at Wrestlemania in two consecutive matches once as the originally scheduled match and right afterwards as Seth cashes in his rematch for a second chance, the face challenger then wins again. That would be a historic moment and really awesome possibility for both guys. Huge win for the face, a new heel tactic for Rollins to have used along the way. Last but not least, something we have never seen before from Money In The Bank that we might never see again.