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yeah i guess you're right, but if they were dogging around with extra weight, cena may not be able to do the FU, the move everyone loves, and Batista's Batista Bomb would be a thing of the past!
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first of all u did nothing i dont know what u mean silly post dont make me puke your the one crying any way we were talking about one match and u know joe was nothing in the match with aj cd the submission he did do suck and took him forever to put them on as if he did not know how it went on lol u can say i make no sense and i cant type or read but the fact is your not makeing sense i dont know what match u saw but it was not that one and another thing i would not be so down on joe if people did not act like he is so great he dont compare to some of the guys in tna hes like the cena of tna hes ok guy but he gets to beat every one becouse every one likes him and cheers for him yea that means your pop but it dont mean your a good wrestlerKasey said:
Cereberal..I understand you don't like Joe. Thats fine with me, I've made peace with that. But, I think everyone gets so frustrated with you so easily because it is really hard to make out what you are saying in 90% of your posts. You don't have to be a nerd to worry about good grammer and proper english. Its part of life, and if you want to make it anywhere in life, you might want to reconsider your outlook on that.
Anyway, back to the wrestling discussion. I may not be Joe's biggest fan. Or even a FAN in general. But I do like the guy. He is a solid wrestler who can do just about anything. And does stuff guys his size shouldn't be able to do.
And to the guy who said Batista and Cena have the commitment to train and keep weight off of them, yeah. But like Kasey said, this has nothing to do with physique. I could give a shit less what the person looks like. To me, its about performance. If they can't perform, wtf are they doing in a wrestling rign?
Anyway, back to the wrestling discussion. I may not be Joe's biggest fan. Or even a FAN in general. But I do like the guy. He is a solid wrestler who can do just about anything. And does stuff guys his size shouldn't be able to do.
And to the guy who said Batista and Cena have the commitment to train and keep weight off of them, yeah. But like Kasey said, this has nothing to do with physique. I could give a shit less what the person looks like. To me, its about performance. If they can't perform, wtf are they doing in a wrestling rign?
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DUDE I SAY A FEW WORDS AND GO ON MY WAY THATS THE WAY I DO IT I DONT PUT MUCH TIME IN TO IT I AM NOT SAYING PEOPLE WHO KNOW HOW TO TYPE ARE NERDS AND ITS NOT THAT I DONT CARE I JUST DONT DO IT MUCH I HAVE BEEN OUT OF SCHOOL FOR 5 YEARS NOW SO IAM RUSTY ON TYPEING AND SPELLING SO DONT START ON ME FOR THAT THIS FOURM HAS LETS BASH PEOPLE WHO CANT TYPEsevastra said:
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Bingo. I think Joe's body is hideous compared to Cena and Batista. But this isn't the Mr. Olympia, it's WRESTLING, and that's what I evaluate Joe on. I also think he has great interview skills and speaks eerily articulate for someone who wrestles as stiff as he does. I was expecting someone with the mic skills of Goldberg, but at times he's like Hannibal Lecter on the mic, and shows commanding charisma for someone way beyond his years. If someone is partial to a particular wrestler, then that's fine. I was a Hulkamaniac until I was fifteen and found out what kind of a-hole he really is, even though I thought he wrestled poorly from the time I was ten. Someone may just like a particular gimmick or persona of a wrestler. Maybe the outfit. Maybe the entrance. That stuff comes a VERY distant second to in-ring performance to me these days. That's what I judge. I've been a diehard Sting fan since I was eight (and he's my favorite of all time) but I think he should've retired when WCW did...and actually stayed retired.sevastra said:
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I'm crying? Which submissions did he use? And exactly which match were you referring to? Was it the Ultimate X or another encounter? You'll have to be specific. So you're excuse for being so down on Joe is that other people like him too much? Good one. TNA isn't a pushover crowd that gives everyone unwarranted pops. They're not as rough as the old ECW crowds, but they damn sure aren't as stupid as the majority of fans who fill up a WWE arena. Joe gets his pops because he's a solid wrestler who had already had a reputation as an outstanding indy competitor before he ever stepped foot into a TNA ring. He went to TNA and dominated. He also pulls off wrestling moves that most men of his size and shape couldn't even hope to do. The next time I see Batista do a forearm suicide dive to the outside and string together submissions into slams, and do more strikes than a clothesline, shoulderblock, or punch, I'll personally send you five dollars. Cena got his push in '05 and this year despite the fact that most of the fans booed his @$$ out of the arena on a regular basis...so you'll have to try again with a real argument. You may think some of the other guys in TNA are better than him and that's fine, but the issue is Joe versus Batista. You don't have to tell me how good the locker room is at TNA...I watch the shows.ThE cErEbRaL aSsAsIn said:
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ok i said the reason people like him becouse they blow him up more than he is u can say what u want about that and the match i was talking about is this one http://youtube.com/watch?v=5W2RGkuf4QI so wach it and tell me that aj and cd dont carry him they made the match what it was joe did nothing compared to what aj and cd did in it if this is not clear for u then i guess your the one thats blind and just drop it juniorKasey said:
Maybe u guys are looking at it the wrong way. Instead of comparing Joe to Batista, how about Joe vs other better WWE big guys ie. Kane, Undertaker or even maybe HHH or Kurt Angle. We know Samoa Joe is a better wrestler/more talented than your Batistas and John Cenas, but how does he stand up to Kane/Undertaker/HHH/Angle or even Goldberg. That is the question that needs to be answered.
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Magicians perform illusions not tricks. A trick is something a ****e does for money. Or cocaine.
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dude they think joe is better than them to so dont even ask lolsy88 said:
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Joe would beat Batista .. But beat the Undertaker??? It would be a great match but i think the Dead Man would bury Joe!!
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i agree on taker but joe would not beat batistawww.suckmyarse said:
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Yea your prob right!!
Right let me get this straight about the joe bastard:
1 He has mastered submission type wrestling
2. He has mastered technical wrestling
3. He has mastered high flying wrestling
4. He has mastered overpowering wrestling
5. He has mastered striking wrestling
6. He has mastered wrestling.
7. He is very solid on the microphone.
8. He is full of charisma
ALL FUCKING WRONG
before i start, this dumb fucking bastard is stupid who wrote that cause NO ONE has mastered any of thos FFS!.
Anyway these are the best ATM
1 submission type wrestling: Kurt angle
2. technical wrestling: chris benoit/kurt angle
3. high flying wrestling: Jeff hardt and more
4. overpowering wrestling: Not sure of that one
5. striking wrestling The undertaker
6. He has mastered wrestling. DUMB BASTARD NO ONE has
7. He is very solid on the microphone. Most of WWE
8. He is full of charisma Most of WWE
EVEN IF this Joe bastard could do all that WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE BE IN TNA, why dont you understand that Vince can get ALMOST ANYTHING he wants. HE WILL BUY TNA out if it comes to it.
Every human being cant resist there own greed and TNA will be sold to Vince then vince will whipe his arse with TNA and throw it away.
Best wrestlers living today which SHOULD be everyones opinion !
people like The undertaker Kurt angle Triple H Shawn and where do they fucking belong ?????
END OF MY FRIENDS END OF
Also im not saying that its right that Vince makes it so wwe is the only wrestling business but thats how it is, peoples Greed for money I hate WWE esp latly with all the american bum fucking and war supporting but wwe/wwf is where the BEST are and where they BELONG.
And also i know im gona get flamed loads for this maybe im not sure.
But i think the whole thing about Ultamate warrior is a massive conspiracy im not gona go on about it because i have no proof but i think he left because of the Goverments influence on WWF. Why do you also think that his "dvd" came out so long after he stopped wrestling???
1 He has mastered submission type wrestling
2. He has mastered technical wrestling
3. He has mastered high flying wrestling
4. He has mastered overpowering wrestling
5. He has mastered striking wrestling
6. He has mastered wrestling.
7. He is very solid on the microphone.
8. He is full of charisma
ALL FUCKING WRONG
before i start, this dumb fucking bastard is stupid who wrote that cause NO ONE has mastered any of thos FFS!.
Anyway these are the best ATM
1 submission type wrestling: Kurt angle
2. technical wrestling: chris benoit/kurt angle
3. high flying wrestling: Jeff hardt and more
4. overpowering wrestling: Not sure of that one
5. striking wrestling The undertaker
6. He has mastered wrestling. DUMB BASTARD NO ONE has
7. He is very solid on the microphone. Most of WWE
8. He is full of charisma Most of WWE
EVEN IF this Joe bastard could do all that WHY THE FUCK WOULD HE BE IN TNA, why dont you understand that Vince can get ALMOST ANYTHING he wants. HE WILL BUY TNA out if it comes to it.
Every human being cant resist there own greed and TNA will be sold to Vince then vince will whipe his arse with TNA and throw it away.
Best wrestlers living today which SHOULD be everyones opinion !
people like The undertaker Kurt angle Triple H Shawn and where do they fucking belong ?????
WWE
END OF MY FRIENDS END OF
Also im not saying that its right that Vince makes it so wwe is the only wrestling business but thats how it is, peoples Greed for money I hate WWE esp latly with all the american bum fucking and war supporting but wwe/wwf is where the BEST are and where they BELONG.
And also i know im gona get flamed loads for this maybe im not sure.
But i think the whole thing about Ultamate warrior is a massive conspiracy im not gona go on about it because i have no proof but i think he left because of the Goverments influence on WWF. Why do you also think that his "dvd" came out so long after he stopped wrestling???
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Yup, starting with me. Vince McMahon DOESN'T get whatever he wants. He WANTED Samoa Joe, but guess what, Joe didn't want to go there. McMahon offered him a very nice contract, joe turned it down. Same goes for Styles.
Lets also mention Sting, who McMahon wanted for a long time. Oh, and Rhyno, and Team 3D, and quite a few other wrestlers. McMahon has offered them all contracts. They all told him to kiss their asses.
No, I don't agree with your "best wrestlers" living today. It should NOT be everyone's opinion, because you are fucking wrong. Undertaker is good at punching and looking creepy. Angle, HHH, and Shawn I can't really say anything about. But there are TONS other people that belong on the best wrestlers of today list. And you know what, only about seven or eight are in the WWE.
I'm sick and fucking tired of everyone thinking the WWE is better because its bigger, has more time, and has bigger names. Is that all wrestling is to you narrow minded fucks? Celebrities? What about the fucking SPORT of wrestling? WWE is pure unadultered SHIT. There is nothing good about that, unless you can't form opinions for yourself and you are entertained by drivel and you go watch big hollywood blockbusters.
Also, your little list of people who have mastered stuff, that is completely wrong. Undertaker master of striking wrestling? BWAHAHAHA!! No. This would be a much better list.
1 submission type wrestling: Samoa Joe
2. technical wrestling: kurt angle
3. high flying wrestling: Sonjay Dutt
4. overpowering wrestling: Abyss
5. striking wrestling: KENTA and Senshi
Not to mention the fact that every single person in WWE is NOT good on the mic and is NOT charismatic. You have a few people there, but not many. Cena is terrible, so is Batista. Booker is ok. Regal is excellent. HHH and Michaels are great. Most everyone else...SUCKS!
And, yet again, wrestling shouldn't be about mic skills and charisma. It should be about WRESTLING! IT'S IN THE GODDAMN NAME!!!
Gah...You fucking people...
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thanks some one with a good point man i agree with u on a lot of it keep up the great workDan1506 said:
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Ok I stared this post cuz I think the cerebrar assasin is all mixed up in th head he like wrestler's 4 their bodies and looks and he say's he been a wrestling fan and after I read some of his posts I found out he new shit and he was a dee,dee,dee, and as some of you made your Comments known I found it true to you as well like (etc) AND (DAN1506) come on he posted a that Jeff Hardy has masterd High Flying sorry to of jeff's fans he f*ing sucks all he has masterd is falling and floping around he has 1 god move and that's the swonton, the wisper in the wind look like shit and I could name like 150 wrestlers the do it better . talk about mastering high flying, Rey JR, RED,SAT, Supercrazy, Eddie,juvie, Ult Dragon, london,kendrick, AJ, RVD,SABU need I Go on. now back to my post and I think sevastra and kasey would say the same Joe gonna Kill you .
PS. I live in orland and work part time at the holtel tha most of the TNA wrestles stay at and i go to all the tapings and ppv and then I eat at the ale house after the shows and i have talked and had driks with some of the guys and Joe is fucking awsome a good man. and a hard worker. so haters stop hatein. and to all dee.dee.dee go read a book or some thing .
PS. I live in orland and work part time at the holtel tha most of the TNA wrestles stay at and i go to all the tapings and ppv and then I eat at the ale house after the shows and i have talked and had driks with some of the guys and Joe is fucking awsome a good man. and a hard worker. so haters stop hatein. and to all dee.dee.dee go read a book or some thing .
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dude dont start with me again i dont like wrestlers becouse of there looks i just have respect for them becouse its hard to achive that but i guess u would know nothing about that your probbly fat like joe to and thats not the reason idont like him there fat guys who i think is good i never said joe was bad all i say hes not as good as all u idiots say he is any one can jump off of any thing and any one can do basic mma submissions so dont start with me again becouse i will go round and round with uwp2 4 life said:Ok I stared this post cuz I think the cerebrar assasin is all mixed up in th head he like wrestler's 4 their bodies and looks and he say's he been a wrestling fan and after I read some of his posts I found out he new shit and he was a dee,dee,dee, and as some of you made your Comments known I found it true to you as well like (etc) AND (DAN1506) come on he posted a that Jeff Hardy has masterd High Flying sorry to of jeff's fans he f*ing sucks all he has masterd is falling and floping around he has 1 god move and that's the swonton, the wisper in the wind look like shit and I could name like 150 wrestlers the do it better . talk about mastering high flying, Rey JR, RED,SAT, Supercrazy, Eddie,juvie, Ult Dragon, london,kendrick, AJ, RVD,SABU need I Go on. now back to my post and I think sevastra and kasey would say the same Joe gonna Kill you .
PS. I live in orland and work part time at the holtel tha most of the TNA wrestles stay at and i go to all the tapings and ppv and then I eat at the ale house after the shows and i have talked and had driks with some of the guys and Joe is fucking awsome a good man. and a hard worker. so haters stop hatein. and to all dee.dee.dee go read a book or some thing .
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sabu has been suckin latly tho... but back to topic... i think batista and joe both suck... joe is overweight and ugly... he wouldnt be a good wrestler if he was in the wwe and batista is plain sloppy... so my pick to win... ummmm whoever puts the match together... id say they pick who wins 
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OK Bro round one,joe 1st of all he is samoan he is genetic dum ass.
2nd of all if the wrestler's that you like.Like batista put 4th the same hard work in the ring as thay do their body's then they mite be some of te best ever but they don't so their not.3rdyou say he not as good as we say he is ok what ain't he good at and don't say every thing.4th you said there fat guys who i think(is good) i never said joe was bad.(it's are good not is good) ok then who and why. and yes you have said joe was bad you are a f*ing dee,dee,dee bro. like i said your boy Batista not bad but joe would kick his ass any day of the week.
And I got a test 4 you shit 4 brains lets see what you say and the rest of us who know wrestling will let you know if you know what your talkin about. who do you think is the best fat or over wight wrestler ever I'll help you out a bite
Dusty,Yoko, Bam Bam, tug boat, big boss man,earthquak, vader,1 man Gang ,kamala, Rikishi,just 2 name a few cuz I know you need need all the help you can get.
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