ROH World Tag Team Champions The American Wolves Invited to WWE Tryout

[The Dragon Saga]

Current ROH World Tag Team Champions and former ROH World Champions, The American Wolves, Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards have been invited to a WWE tryout camp in late August along with Midwest indy wrestler Prince Mustafa Ali. No word yet on if The Wolves have accepted the offer but Davey Richards told a Mexican morning talk show earlier last month that he and Edwards were in talks with both WWE and TNA. It's believed they aren't interested in a TNA deal but if WWE were to make an offer they'd listen. If one doesn't come through they are happy sticking with ROH where both men are two of the top earners.

This is from F4WOnline, you can find an LOP tidbit on the report here.

These two are the final premier guys outside WWE. I'd be more favored to them sticking with ROH but if they leave for WWE it's alright, knowing Davey who has turned WWE down before he won't let them do anything obscene to him, probably just let him run wild as he currently is. Both have been showing a ton more personality since they reformed, Davey humping a turnbuckle is one of the funniest wrestling related moments I've seen thus far this year.

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

I like this news but every year something like that appears and it always ends up being nothing. Could both this man work in the current WWE world? Absolutely! They love the business they are in, they paid their dues in the independent world and they proved that they can out wrestle every other tag team/wrestler.

For me personally Davey Richards has the WWE look, he could be a model for all I care (no homo) so WWE would use him really well. Eddie Edwards isn't charismatic, but if they are going in as a team, he doesn't need to be flashy or whatever. I hope they sign with the WWE, they would be two great talents that could be fun to watch in the ring and evolving. Also, I would like to see them getting their big pays because I've been following both and they worked to hard to not get there.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

I like this news but every year something like that appears

Its never appeared. In 2010 just before Final Battle, Davey was offered a WWE contract. He said on his ROHWorld interview and Highspots interview he rejected it because they wanted him to go to development and train to be the wrestler they wanted him to be and not the one he wants to be. He was also uncomfortable with the schedule because he wanted to finish paramedic school and felt ROH/New Japan would allow him the opportunity - of course NJPW fucked him over and hes promised never to go back.

As for Eddie, never seen anything in relation to him and WWE. Ever. Like ever, ever. Maybe once in 2007 but in '07 every ROH roster member was linked to WWE. Now half of that roster are there.

 

[Coco]

I think I'd prefer Davey to be the wrestler WWE wants him to be rather than the wrestler he wants to be.

 

[klunderbunker]

Maybe Richards can finally learn how to work a match.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

His matches won't peak 10 minutes before they end, that's for sure.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Maybe Richards can finally learn how to work a match.

Agreed, bit like that Bryan Danielson guy, whose an indy, vanilla midget who'll never achieve anything. Amirite? Amirite?

 

[klunderbunker]

Agreed, bit like that Bryan Danielson guy, whose an indy, vanilla midget who'll never achieve anything. Amirite? Amirite?

Danielson actually shows abilities as a wrestler in ROH. Richards shows abilities as a kick boxer who uses an ankle lock in an attempt to make us believe he's a wrestler.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Jim Cornette told Richards to show abilities as a kick boxer who uses an ankle lock in an attempt to make us believe he's a wrestler.

Fixed that for you.

 

[klunderbunker]

Fixed that for you.

I've yet to see any work from Richards anywhere else to make me believe it's just a Cornette problem.

 

[ABMorales787]

Seen him live. Guess what he did. Kick.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

I've yet to see any work from Richards anywhere else to make me believe it's just a Cornette problem.

Considering any time we discuss this you solely use the few episodes of ROH TV you watched when Richards was Cornette's boy and wanted him pushed as in a way an MMA fighter would be because Jim thought that was the next step in wrestling, I doubt it, but please, enlighten me on what you know that Bryan Danielson, that guy who is main eventing SummerSlam this weekend didn't when he said in 2010 that Davey was a better wrestler than him. I'm dying to know.

 

[klunderbunker]

Considering any time we discuss this you solely use the few episodes of ROH TV you watched when Richards was Cornette's boy and wanted him pushed as in a way an MMA fighter would be because Jim thought that was the next step in wrestling, I doubt it, but please, enlighten me on what you know that Bryan Danielson, that guy who is main eventing SummerSlam this weekend didn't when he said in 2010 that Davey was a better wrestler than him. I'm dying to know.

Well I've seen a good deal of Danielson's work from his ROH world title reign, many of which were matches I rated rather high. The other matches I've seen from Richards before and after he won the title gave me the same reactions I've always had from him: no selling offense and sticking his head out to be kicked again doesn't make him a wrestler.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Well I've seen a good deal of Danielson's work from his ROH world title reign, many of which were matches I rated rather high. The other matches I've seen from Richards before and after he won the title gave me the same reactions I've always had from him: no selling offense and sticking his head out to be kicked again doesn't make him a wrestler.

Well considering he's a professional wrestler in a professional wrestling company and has worked for New Japan Pro Wrestling and Pro Wrestling Noah and has previously rejected a contract by WWE who hire wrestlers and is being called back, KB, you may be missing something Triple H and co. are seeing dude.

Seen him live. Guess what he did. Kick.

Like how if you saw Ric Flair live, you could guess what he'd do. Chop.

 

[klunderbunker]

Well considering he's a professional wrestler in a professional wrestling company and has worked for New Japan Pro Wrestling and Pro Wrestling Noah and has previously rejected a contract by WWE who hire wrestlers and is being called back, KB, you may be missing something Triple H and co. are seeing dude.

Wasn't it New Japan that said Tensai was awesome and then he came back to WWE and sucked? HHH also saw potential in Sin Cara. That's turned out quite well no?

Like how if you saw Ric Flair live, you could guess what he'd do. Chop.

Yes, as in a move that doesn't put way too much danger on someone's head and many other moves as well.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Wasn't it New Japan that said Tensai was awesome and then he came back to WWE and sucked? HHH also saw potential in Sin Cara. That's turned out quite well no?

Tensai was awesome in New Japan. WWE made a poor decision trying to erase the past. Sin Cara was entirely WWE's fault, they gave him no time to develop, he went from full on lucha libre to WWE's style of performing and was bound to get caught out.

Yes, as in a move that doesn't put way too much danger on someone's head and many other moves as well.

So should all wrestlers stop kicking then. Is that what you're saying? No more kicks from Bryan or Punk, lets just take kicks away. And I also can not recall an incident where a Richards kick has seriously hurt anyone.

 

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Its never appeared. In 2010 just before Final Battle, Davey was offered a WWE contract. He said on his ROHWorld interview and Highspots interview he rejected it because they wanted him to go to development and train to be the wrestler they wanted him to be and not the one he wants to be. He was also uncomfortable with the schedule because he wanted to finish paramedic school and felt ROH/New Japan would allow him the opportunity

WWE knows better in that department. Antonio Cesaro is the best he's ever been and i can bet a penny to a pound that's all due to the WWE system.

- of course NJPW fucked him over and hes promised never to go back.

I heard he screwed the pooch there.

 

[klunderbunker]

Tensai was awesome in New Japan. WWE made a poor decision trying to erase the past. Sin Cara was entirely WWE's fault, they gave him no time to develop, he went from full on lucha libre to WWE's style of performing and was bound to get caught out.

So it was WWE running out there with butter to put on the ropes to cause all those botches?

So should all wrestlers stop kicking then. Is that what you're saying? No more kicks from Bryan or Punk, lets just take kicks away. And I also can not recall an incident where a Richards kick has seriously hurt anyone.

To the head? I'd have no problem with that at all.

Paul London says mayonaisse, as he's still too scrambled from that double stomp to remember the word hello.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

I heard he screwed the pooch there.

His side of the story is he was three months away from finishing paramedic school, every time they discussed dates he'd to sign waivers as guarantees he'd show up for events, he told them he wasn't going to be able to comeback until after the summer of 2012 but New Japan told him they were going to give him the Jr. Heavyweight title - which had he won he'd have been the first non-contracted guy to hold it since Owen Hart, pretty big achievement.

So he signed the waiver to work from a certain point to a certain point, left medical school for the second time and got out to Japan... where they told him he was going to put Devitt over. He told them on the spot he would never be back again and they saw this as disrespectful, so when it came time for him to go back he had a small car accident which coincidentally left him exempt of meeting his final dates.

I've heard one other version where he refused to let a certain finish happen.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

So it was WWE running out there with butter to put on the ropes to cause all those botches?

I can't recall him screwing up any springboards. Fell off the top rope twice when trying to set-up the Flux Capacator or El Mistica, after that it was a ton of stupid shit, not to mention it got to the point where smarks were saying he botched stuff he wasn't botching. Hes a lot better now and still gets no credit because majority of wrestling fans are sheep.

To the head? I'd have no problem with that at all.

Then meet up with Chris Nowinski and voice your issues.

Paul London says mayonaisse, as he's still too scrambled from that double stomp to remember the word hello.

You mean the same Paul London who has said he holds nothing against Davey for it. And I'm pretty sure Paul can still say hello and goodbye as well as many other regularly used English words.

 

[klunderbunker]

I can't recall him screwing up any springboards. Fell off the top rope twice when trying to set-up the Flux Capacator or El Mistica, after that it was a ton of stupid shit, not to mention it got to the point where smarks were saying he botched stuff he wasn't botching. Hes a lot better now and still gets no credit because majority of wrestling fans are sheep.

That's because his matches were so heavily edited to keep them from being embarrassments.

Then meet up with Chris Nowinski and voice your issues.

So to clarify, you're fine with someone getting his head kicked in and possibly becoming Benoit II as long as you get to enjoy the kicks?

You mean the same Paul London who has said he holds nothing against Davey for it. And I'm pretty sure Paul can still say hello and goodbye as well as many other regularly used English words.

I don't hold it against my cousin for kicking me in the back where i had just had surgery two weeks prior. It doesn't mean he didn't do it.

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

So to clarify, you're fine with someone getting his head kicked in and possibly becoming Benoit II as long as you get to enjoy the kicks?

I'm sorry but I've been following wrestling for a while, I'm pretty sure we all saw more than 1000 different wrestlers in our lifetime YET and as far as I've seen Chris Benoit WAS the only one to actually go nuts. Why couldn't Benoit just go crazy and actually turn out as a murderer? You don't know what was inside his head, you just read some guy telling you it was the chairs in the head. People kill people everyday, and I'm pretty sure they aren't getting concussions before doing that.

Guys like Mick Foley can't even look to a computer for more than 15minutes, he had a lot of more serious bumps/injuries , and yet he never showed any reason for us to believe he would kill his family. Stop using that excuse, people nowadays can't go crazy like they used too.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

That's because his matches were so heavily edited to keep them from being embarrassments.

You can't edit live television I'm afraid. Smackdown was a different story.

So to clarify, you're fine with someone getting his head kicked in and possibly becoming Benoit II as long as you get to enjoy the kicks?

It's not my issue. I'm the fan, you are the fan, you don't know if the kicks connect or not and with a lot of wrestlers, they don't. I've seen wrestlers training in Dublin and the majority of wrestlers who kick wear kickpads for a reason. If it's something like blading then yeah, I'm against it now after seeing one of the best wrestlers in the world's career taken away from him and countless other stories, but head kicks are totally different.

I don't hold it against my cousin for kicking me in the back where i had just had surgery two weeks prior. It doesn't mean he didn't do it.

Don't act dumb. Few wrestlers go their careers without causing injury. Davey did it with a foot stomp, he couldn't help Paul London was sweating like a pedophile in a childrens daycare, all he could do was do what he did which was roll London onto his side in an act of safety so he didn't swallow his tongue and see if he was conscious.

 

[klunderbunker]

I'm sorry but I've been following wrestling for a while, I'm pretty sure we all saw more than 1000 different wrestlers in our lifetime YET and as far as I've seen Chris Benoit WAS the only one to actually go nuts. Why couldn't Benoit just go crazy and actually turn out as a murderer? You don't know what was inside his head, you just read some guy telling you it was the chairs in the head. People kill people everyday, and I'm pretty sure they aren't getting concussions before doing that.

Guys like Mick Foley can't even look to a computer for more than 15minutes, he had a lot of more serious bumps/injuries , and yet he never showed any reason for us to believe he would kill his family. Stop using that excuse, people nowadays can't go crazy like they used too.

Here's the thing: you can't prove the chair shots/headbutts/suplexes/everything else didn't make Benoit do that. Are kicks to the head and piledrivers worth taking the risk of it happening again? They certainly aren't to me, and I don't think they are to most others.

Look at brain damage in the NFL. It's very, very real and the effects are terrifying.

 

[klunderbunker]

You can't edit live television I'm afraid. Smackdown was a different story.

No you can't, hence why he was on Smackdown most of the time: he wasn't good enough to be live on Raw.

It's not my issue. I'm the fan, you are the fan, you don't know if the kicks connect or not and with a lot of wrestlers, they don't. I've seen wrestlers training in Dublin and the majority of wrestlers who kick wear kickpads for a reason. If it's something like blading then yeah, I'm against it now after seeing one of the best wrestlers in the world's career taken away from him and countless other stories, but head kicks are totally different.

No but I do know more about it than you do, and I'm pretty certain those kicks would be less dangerous if they didn't exist. But then again what would I know?

Don't act dumb. Few wrestlers go their careers without causing injury. Davey did it with a foot stomp, he couldn't help Paul London was sweating like a pedophile in a childrens daycare, all he could do was do what he did which was roll London onto his side in an act of safety so he didn't swallow his tongue and see if he was conscious.

Actually all he could have done to protect London was used something other than kicks.

As for rolling him on his side, that wouldn't have been necessary had he knot knocked London silly would it?