Im not watching the ppv right now, but I was reading the summaries and just read that Mysterio won his second world championship tonight. Im a big Mysterio fan and have waited 4 long years for the WWE to let him hold the big one again, and I am very excited to see him with it once again. I'll admit that his first run was lackluster, but this could be the chance for him to have a decent run with the belt. What do all of you think about this though?
Rey Mysterio wins World Heavyweight championship
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If Rey has any chance of looking strong as World Champion, it would be right now. The WWE is going through a phase where they are pushing the smaller wrestlers, and Rey definitely fits into that category. As we have seen in the past, Rey can have a good reign as champion. We saw that in the Rey Mysterio Dolph Ziggler feud last summer and I am pretty sure that we will see it again here. He could have a magnificent feud with Chris Jericho, rehash the feud with CM Punk, or Drew McIntyre may get the bump to go to the main event. There is so many different directions the WWE can go with this reign it should make for a good or even great run as champion.
The Great Ace
Dark Match Winner
I honestly don't like Rey as champion. He's unbelievable as a champ. It's the gimmick of him being the small guy that overcomes adversity to win the belt that irks me. The only good thing about this win is that when WWE decides to get the belt off of him, he can drop it to basically anyone. Hell, Dolph Ziggler can win matches against Rey Mysterio.
It's really hard to predict where WWE will go with Rey as the champion. I don't think Swagger is going to win the title back any time soon. Swagger will probably get his one on one rematch, but even if he does, I think Swagger will only get one match against the new world heavyweight champion. I find it hard to believe that Swagger VS Mysterio could be a real feud. Then there's CM Punk. Him and Rey just finished a long and personal feud. Would WWE really want to do Rey VS Punk again? I don't think so. Maybe one match...maybe. Big Show is a face now, and unless WWE plans on doing a sudden heel turn, then I can't see a Mysterio VS Big Show feud happening.
I know he's not coming back any time soon, but I wouldn't be surprised if Rey held on to the title until Taker's return. Once Undertaker, is finished dealing his attacker, then he will surely be put back into the world title picture. I wouldn't be surprised if Rey had to drop the belt to him.
But as of right now, I don't see anyone on the Smackdown roster who could possibly beat Mysterio for the title over the next couple of months. Rey winning was definitely a shocker to me. I thought Swagger would retain, and if that didn't happen, then I thought CM Punk would be next in line to wear the gold again.
I know he's not coming back any time soon, but I wouldn't be surprised if Rey held on to the title until Taker's return. Once Undertaker, is finished dealing his attacker, then he will surely be put back into the world title picture. I wouldn't be surprised if Rey had to drop the belt to him.
But as of right now, I don't see anyone on the Smackdown roster who could possibly beat Mysterio for the title over the next couple of months. Rey winning was definitely a shocker to me. I thought Swagger would retain, and if that didn't happen, then I thought CM Punk would be next in line to wear the gold again.
Morpheus101
Registered Boozer
I guess he had to get his 2nd title run sooner or later. No doubt that Mysterio is an exciting performer, but let's see if his second reign is more interesting than his first. I'm actually hoping that this will lead to a feud with Ziggler for the belt. Swagger just didn't cut it for me....his title reign was forgettable, at best. Giving it to Rey was probably the best choice.
Tremendously disappointed with Mysterio becoming World HEAVYWEIGHT Champion again. Didn't like it the first time and I like it even less now. He's too small to be a plausible heavyweight champion, plus he doesn't need it at this stage of his career. He's already over with the crowd, especially the younger fans, and he likely won't be around much longer either. I was disappointed to see Swagger lose the belt so soon.
The only thing more disappointing than this was Alicia frickin' Fox winning the Divas Championship.
The only thing more disappointing than this was Alicia frickin' Fox winning the Divas Championship.
SpoodBeest
City Dweller, Successful Fella
This makes sense for one reason: Rey is simply The Undertaker's replacement. If Taker had not gotten injured (in his first match back) then he would have gone on to win this match however the reality is he got hurt and Rey is the next big face on SmackDown and as a result has to fill the void Taker left.
In my opinion Rey is a better choice for a top face champion then The Big Show, seriously let's be honest people. As long as Mysterio doesn't face anyone overly large compared to him, then we will see quality title matches when he has to defend. With Show running as champion would we be guaranteed the same quality matches? I think not.
As long as he gets booked like a proper champion and doesn't have to face giant monster heel after giant monster heel, and instead takes on members of the roster who are capable of having good matches, challenge him, and we already have a better second title reign for Mysterio.
I'm also quite stunned it's taken four years for them to decide to let Rey to have another reign with the "Big One", especially for the draw that he is for the WWE. Anyway let's wait and see before we shit all over Rey's second reign because for all we know this one could be a good one.
In my opinion Rey is a better choice for a top face champion then The Big Show, seriously let's be honest people. As long as Mysterio doesn't face anyone overly large compared to him, then we will see quality title matches when he has to defend. With Show running as champion would we be guaranteed the same quality matches? I think not.
As long as he gets booked like a proper champion and doesn't have to face giant monster heel after giant monster heel, and instead takes on members of the roster who are capable of having good matches, challenge him, and we already have a better second title reign for Mysterio.
I'm also quite stunned it's taken four years for them to decide to let Rey to have another reign with the "Big One", especially for the draw that he is for the WWE. Anyway let's wait and see before we shit all over Rey's second reign because for all we know this one could be a good one.
I don't get the hate. Mysterio is a pretty darn good worker and very over. He's probably leaving soon so this might have been given to him as a thank-you gift for the years of hard work he's put in, and the shit first run he had. Let's just forgot the weight limit rubbish. This is Pro Wrestling, not amateur. There aren't any point systems or weight classes. I bet Mysterio was given the title as a way to show the WWE Universe that smaller wrestlers have just as much chance to be champion as larger ones. Kind of a warm-up for an eventual Evan Bourne reign.
Right now, it is imperative for Mysterio to have a good reign. Matches with Punk would be fantastic, as they have shown to be able to work very well together. I suppose everyone else in the Fatal 4 Way would be contenders as well. As long as this title reign is better than his last, I'll be happy.
Right now, it is imperative for Mysterio to have a good reign. Matches with Punk would be fantastic, as they have shown to be able to work very well together. I suppose everyone else in the Fatal 4 Way would be contenders as well. As long as this title reign is better than his last, I'll be happy.
The Great Ace
Dark Match Winner
There's no doubting that Rey is a great competitor, and he was definitely a innovative libre wrestler, but this guy couldn't win the IC belt a few months ago. Now he's on top of the Smackdown roster? I just can't see it. He hasn't really shown me anything Championship worthy in recent months.
I love the fact they put it on Rey,he really does deserve a earned run not a grief run like in 2006.I do honestly hope they either make his run really short and going out with a nice bang or a long one to show if the 06 was really a fluke on the WWE or on Reys part.The other reason i like this is because it sets up a real fun scenario heading into the MONEY IN THE BANK ppv.Considering the PPVs probable main even i wouldn't be the least bit suprised to see the winner cash in on Rey that night considering RAW is all tied up with the NXT angle.
I'm fine with this because I have a feeling it is going to lead to Punk becoming champion. CM Punk is probably the best guy for the job right now but if he took the title off Swagger at Fatal Four way then Swagger would have used his rematch clause and you'd have a heel vs heel match at the next ppv. This way once Swagger gets his rematch out of the way Punk can reenter his feud with Mysterio and take the title off him probably at Summerslam.
Rey Mysterio has been very, very solid since winning the Intercontinental Championship at Wrestlemania. The feud with Chris Jericho. The feud with Dolph Ziggler. The feud with Batista. The loss to John Morrison. His feud with CM Punk. The guy has really pushed hard and has never looked more credible. the timing is just perfect to give him a legit title run. With Big Show a face and Kane lingering with the SES, Rey is free to face people who he can legitimately beat. He looked solid facing Batista and The Undertaker so he should have no problems with Jack Swagger or Kane. He is the top face on Smackdown right now. Great for him.
Money Inc.
Pre-Show Stalwart
Your going to see a lot of people who dislike this..
But if one of the faces were going to win last night, I'm happy Rey did.
I thought Swagger retaining would of made the most sense, but at least the Big Show didn't win it. I didn't want to see Show/Swagger continue with the Show being pushed as top face on the show. This opens the door for a Swagger/Rey feud and even continue everyone favorite messiah vs Rey.
But if one of the faces were going to win last night, I'm happy Rey did.
I thought Swagger retaining would of made the most sense, but at least the Big Show didn't win it. I didn't want to see Show/Swagger continue with the Show being pushed as top face on the show. This opens the door for a Swagger/Rey feud and even continue everyone favorite messiah vs Rey.
Teddy Irving
Pre-Show Stalwart
Wait so rey mysterio,the cruiserweight, won the world heavyweight title. Anybody else see how that doesnt work? Im not to happy about this i think they would have been better served leaving the title on swagger he still needed a bit to cement himself in the main event scene.
What a horrible, horrible decision on the part of the WWE.
Sure, I have my biasses and it's very true that I hate Rey Mysterio but even when I think about it in a booking manner, it makes no sense whatsoever. You see,, Mysterio is little more than a one trick pony. Every promo you hear from him will include "How big his heart is", "How many times he has been the underdog" or "How he has defied the odds before"... Words cannot define how much Rey Mysterio bores me. Every single promo that you will hear from this point on will include those that are listed and I am pretty sure that he wont be the Champion for that much longer.
Rey Mysterio is not a good Champion like Sheamus is. Rey Mysterio is a small guy and whilst I don't mind that, it takes away from the Championship for him to be holding it. If Sheamus is defeated clean by a superstar for the Championship, that superstar is likely to get a really good rub from it. However, if they beat Mysterio, well, no big deal really. I can only imagine that they are going to have him feud with Swagger first because of his rematch clause. Then he will likely feud with The Big Show.
I don't mean to be so negative about this but truly, Rey Mysterio's first reign was terrible and I am not very happy that I need to sit through it all again.
Sure, I have my biasses and it's very true that I hate Rey Mysterio but even when I think about it in a booking manner, it makes no sense whatsoever. You see,, Mysterio is little more than a one trick pony. Every promo you hear from him will include "How big his heart is", "How many times he has been the underdog" or "How he has defied the odds before"... Words cannot define how much Rey Mysterio bores me. Every single promo that you will hear from this point on will include those that are listed and I am pretty sure that he wont be the Champion for that much longer.
Rey Mysterio is not a good Champion like Sheamus is. Rey Mysterio is a small guy and whilst I don't mind that, it takes away from the Championship for him to be holding it. If Sheamus is defeated clean by a superstar for the Championship, that superstar is likely to get a really good rub from it. However, if they beat Mysterio, well, no big deal really. I can only imagine that they are going to have him feud with Swagger first because of his rematch clause. Then he will likely feud with The Big Show.
I don't mean to be so negative about this but truly, Rey Mysterio's first reign was terrible and I am not very happy that I need to sit through it all again.
BillAlfonso
Getting Noticed By Management
The biggest problem with him having the title and consistently defeating true heavyweights(over 225lbs) is that, even if this isn't amatuer wrestling, his speed wouldn't be a factor because he'd still have to come to them to win. I could see if this was a hardcore match where he could use weapons or a "street fight" because I've seen smaller guys beat bigger guys in real fights(Jericho beat up Goldberg and Booker T beat up Batista from what I heard). He could run around all he wants but he has to get in the ring at some point for the 1 2 3 and that's when guys like Kane or the Big Show would get their hands on him. Also, the way he constantly lands his moves is a bit unrealistic, who can't see the 619 coming when your laying across the second rope?
Exactly, heart only gets you so far but if you don't have the ability to when, you probably won't.
Little Jerry Lawler
Sigmund Freud On Ritalin And Roids
How is Sheamus a good champion? He kept the title at Royal Rumble because Rhodes got Orton disqualified and lost it at the Elimination Chamber. He got pinned by Evan Bourne a couple of weeks ago.
I don't see a problem with Mysterio being champion. As long as he doesn't feud with the Big Show or Kane then he will be fine. He's more than capable of putting on great matches with Punk and Swagger and watch out for Christian because I believe this is his chance to strike.
Who cares if he says the same promos all the time. Jericho talks about how he's the best at what he does and Orton talks about vipers and all that shit. Mysterio is doing the same thing that's tailored to his gimmick.
IrishCanadian25
Going on 10 years with WrestleZone
So, I'm pissed.
Anyone here who knows me, knows that I am not a Rey Mysterio fan. Not even a little. He's a good wrestler, kids and fans love him, he appeals to a massive demographic. But I just don't like him.
And as World Heavyweight Champion? I HATE HIM.
Maybe it's because I don't believe him in the ring, and the fact that his works with guys like Big Show doesn't appear real.
Or MAYBE it's because they call it the World HEAVYWEIGHT Championship, and Mysterio isn't a damn Heavyweight.
The cut-off from Cruiserweight / LHW to Heavyweight is, I believe, 225-230 lbs. Don't quote me on that, even though we're splitting hairs here. Mysterio is listed at 175 lbs. At least 50 lbs less than the Heavyweight cutoff. Hell, I weigh 220.
I don't like Rey having the WHC title because he isn't a Heavyweight for the same reason I don't like 1- or 3-man tag team champions.
And yet, the Intercontinenal Title also says "Heavyweight" on it, and I don't care so much about that.
Maybe it's just my Mysterio hatred, but shouldn't the WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION be an actual HEAVYWEIGHT?
Anyone here who knows me, knows that I am not a Rey Mysterio fan. Not even a little. He's a good wrestler, kids and fans love him, he appeals to a massive demographic. But I just don't like him.
And as World Heavyweight Champion? I HATE HIM.
Maybe it's because I don't believe him in the ring, and the fact that his works with guys like Big Show doesn't appear real.
Or MAYBE it's because they call it the World HEAVYWEIGHT Championship, and Mysterio isn't a damn Heavyweight.
The cut-off from Cruiserweight / LHW to Heavyweight is, I believe, 225-230 lbs. Don't quote me on that, even though we're splitting hairs here. Mysterio is listed at 175 lbs. At least 50 lbs less than the Heavyweight cutoff. Hell, I weigh 220.
I don't like Rey having the WHC title because he isn't a Heavyweight for the same reason I don't like 1- or 3-man tag team champions.
And yet, the Intercontinenal Title also says "Heavyweight" on it, and I don't care so much about that.
Maybe it's just my Mysterio hatred, but shouldn't the WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION be an actual HEAVYWEIGHT?
Max Headroom
The Master of Disaster
I'm just going to have to agree with everyone else and say I am extremely dissapointed. I mean I don't hate Rey, but his character has gotten too boring to bare. Especially as champion, World Heavyweight(I'm probably heavier than him) champion at that. Unless they plan on changing Rey's character, which would be decent, or have him drop the title to someone else, then this was a bad idea. I would like to see him drop it to Kane and give Kane a credible title run until Undertaker returns and have them fued for it, that would be pretty interesting. That's my 24 cents on the little fella winning the big fella title.
Who wants their wrestling to be believable? Maybe you should stick with MMA, then you'll get believable fights and legitimate weight classes.
Personally I think a match between Mysertio and a Big Show, Kane or Undertaker are as realistic as you can possibly expect. The problems in a match between Big Show & Rey Mysterio are no different to the problems you get in any Big Show match. Show is the problem in every match he's in, not Mysterio.
Undertaker & Kane always sell a lot against Rey Mysterio, certainly more than you expect. That shows how much respect they must have for the guy.
I have no problem with holding the World Heavyweight Championship. The title generalises anyway, it doesn't say Light Heavyweight Championship when CM Punk or Chris Jericho holds the belts and it doesn't say Super Heavyweight Championship when it's held by The Great Khali or Big Show.
I'll refer to my review of Fatal Facepalm for this one
I seriously think Mysterio is overhype and the whole "I'm the underdog" is just becoming too tedious now, did you actually hear the boos he got when he referenced that during his segment with the Big Show?
I seriously do not know how to take Mysterio as a champion, for me he doesn't deserve it because his first reign comes from Eddie's death, this one from some bitching and whining. Mysterio simply should not be the top man to hold the belt, regardless, there are more deserving and more heavier people who should be holding the belt. You know politics played a role in this one more than anything, I can guarantee it.
But seriously IC, I'm just as pissed as you are.
I seriously think Mysterio is overhype and the whole "I'm the underdog" is just becoming too tedious now, did you actually hear the boos he got when he referenced that during his segment with the Big Show?
I seriously do not know how to take Mysterio as a champion, for me he doesn't deserve it because his first reign comes from Eddie's death, this one from some bitching and whining. Mysterio simply should not be the top man to hold the belt, regardless, there are more deserving and more heavier people who should be holding the belt. You know politics played a role in this one more than anything, I can guarantee it.
But seriously IC, I'm just as pissed as you are.
Oh, good. Someone made the thread for me.
I was having this discussion with myself a couple days ago when I read the thread about Rey being boring. One person outright said what you're saying, that it's so unbelievable when he beats larger men that it kills the fun for you. I knew I'd have to make a thread for this discussion if he won the belt because, frankly, some people seem determined to bend over backwards and kill his second reign (which I always insisted he deserved and would get; suck on it, haters).
Let's be honest with ourselves: We can sit throuh Hornswoggle being booked against tag team champions, guys who don't have contracts getting involved in the show a few times without real consequence, attempted vehicular homicide, and the implication that Undertaker being put in a vegetaive state means there's a "guilty party" afflicted with the human condition. But if one of the most popular, entertaining draws in the company gets the same pat on the back that guys like Benoit, Angle, Jericho, and Punk have gotten for a job well done, it's time to call "bullshit"? I don't buy the "realism" argument for one minute on the basis of all the other things wrestling fans are expected to sit through. Simple as that.
I was having this discussion with myself a couple days ago when I read the thread about Rey being boring. One person outright said what you're saying, that it's so unbelievable when he beats larger men that it kills the fun for you. I knew I'd have to make a thread for this discussion if he won the belt because, frankly, some people seem determined to bend over backwards and kill his second reign (which I always insisted he deserved and would get; suck on it, haters).
Let's be honest with ourselves: We can sit throuh Hornswoggle being booked against tag team champions, guys who don't have contracts getting involved in the show a few times without real consequence, attempted vehicular homicide, and the implication that Undertaker being put in a vegetaive state means there's a "guilty party" afflicted with the human condition. But if one of the most popular, entertaining draws in the company gets the same pat on the back that guys like Benoit, Angle, Jericho, and Punk have gotten for a job well done, it's time to call "bullshit"? I don't buy the "realism" argument for one minute on the basis of all the other things wrestling fans are expected to sit through. Simple as that.
Little Jerry Lawler
Sigmund Freud On Ritalin And Roids
I heard a lot of people complaining that Punk was too small when he won the title two years ago so I guess it's now acceptable for him to hold it now because he is at a certain weight. Smaller guys don't have a problem putting on a match with most superstars. It guys like Show and Kane that have the problem. Mysterio has had some of the best matches more than any other wrestler the past three years. I could care less how much a wrestler weighs. If he has great matches, then weight shouldn't matter.
Balls_of_Jericho
And Europe regain the Ryder Cup...
Well, believe it or not i'm gonna have to agree with you here! the guy is too small, too irritating and so "holier than thou" it's unbelieveable!! The crowd reaction to his "my heart is as big as your fist" waffle last night says it all. I just hope that this is a swansong - they're giving him a quick run then he can retire gracefully and I don't have to keep rewinding the telly to translate what he's saying!
ahem sorry, rant over!
ahem sorry, rant over!