Randy Orton & Legacy- What should/will happen...

[newteenforbb]

Let us discuss the future of Randy Orton and Legacy. Tonight at the Royal Rumble, we saw the beginning (perhaps even the final nail in the coffin) of an Orton/Legacy split. At this point, with Randy out of the title picture and Legacy seemingly on the same page, where do you guys see the story going?

Not only where do you think it is going but what do you think would be a good way to proceed? Keep in mind, we have 55 days left until Wrestlemania so obviously, any feud needs to be booked wisely so it can really last that long until the payoff.

I will get the ball rolling on this by giving my thoughts. I thought it was very interesting at the Rumble tonight that when Cody came in the ring to apologize, the fans were cheering loudly for an RKO. That couldn't possibly be the outcome WWE wanted. They want Orton to look like the bad guy and for Legacy to look like the faces. I guess they thought Orton beating up on Cody/Ted post-match would work but all I heard were cheers. Well, until Sheamus kicked him and then the cheers turned to boo's. So, I am not quite sure how they are going to do this correctly.

If they most definitely want Orton as the heel and Cody/Ted (I put them together because it could be both or one) as the faces, they need to have Orton really do something horrible to one that is similar to the way Orton was before last year's Wrestlemania. Nothing about the Rumble PPV looked "heel" when it came to Orton. I wouldn't say it was a one-hundred percent face reaction but it was pretty damn close.

So, with 55 days from now until the actual Mania PPV, I say they need to go for a really slow build. It can work if Orton and Legacy "make up" tomorrow night and Orton is put in the elimination chamber match at NWO. They can continue to tease a split right up until that PPV and go from there. I just don't trust WWE booking to do this right with so many RAW's before Mania.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Honestly, I am still holding out hope for an Orton/Undertaker main event at Mania (absolutely will not happen, I know). So seeing they have kind of botched the whole Legacy thing, it didn't last as long as it should have, I say have it be a clean split. Keep Ted and Cody together, and build a monster tag division around them. They are young and do not need major pushes yet. There are plenty of main eventers right now, and I think some people out there want too many big pushes too fast.

 

[PACMAN PUNCH]

Elimination Chamber is going to be in St Louis, MO which happens to be Randy Orton's hometown.

With the cheers he got at Royal Rumble this evening, it would be futile for the WWE to get the crowd to boo Orton and cheer Rhodes and Dibiase when it's all going back down the toilet at Elimination Chamber.

 

[LegendKiller716]

If WWE wants Randy Orton face they need to book it right because he can come out as a monster face, ive been saying this for a long time, Randy Orton can be the begining of a new attitude era. If WWE can pull this off Orton can be a major face with the same cocky attitude of an Austin or a Rock. If done wrong Orton can be caught in a tweener role and that wouldnt be good.

IMO Legacy dosent have the drawing power to give Orton the huge face rub so I think this is how it should happen:

If WWE is to keep Orton heel we would need a 2 on 1 match set up between Orton and Legacy during which Cody turns on Ted, setting up a gimmeck match betwen the 2 at EC. That way Orton cant interfere because he will be either prepareing for the later chamber match, or hurt from the first one. In this match Ted will hit a big spot on Cody injuring him until after Mania, which will set up Orton v Dibiasi at Mania. Ted gets the win on the grand stage and a star is born. Afterwards at backlash give orton the win with Cody's help. This can start a gimmeck with Rhodes being Ortons lone apprentice, which will eventually give Cody a huge push.

 

[y2empleh]

The one thing that DOESN'T need to happen is to turn Orton face. Right now he's the biggest heel on the Raw roster. If you turn him heel, your next 2 heels are Miz and Sheamus unless if they plan on turning one of DX heel which would have to be HBK considering the proposed HHH/Sheamus match at Mania. I disagree with turning both of Priceless/Legacy face either. Then you're stuck with a heel Orton vs 2 faces which wouldn't go well. The face needs to be the underdog. Dibiase should be the face. With that said, Mania should be booked with Orton/Rhodes vs Dibiase and another partner. My money would be on his dad or Kofi Kingston, with the nod likely going to Kofi.

Here's how I would have it play out. More of the same bickering among Legacy until NWO where it's an elimination chamber for the title. Rhodes/Orton/Dibiase/Cena/Kofi/Sheamus (I believe DX will be defending the tag titles either against hart dynasty or Punk/gallows) Have Cena and Rhodes eliminated early. Orton eliminates kofi. That leaves Dibiase/Orton/Sheamus. Sheamus gets beat down until Dibiase surprises orton with a quick pin followed by a quick boot by Sheamus on Dibiase so Sheamus retains. Orton proceeds to beat down Dibiase post match with Rhodes joining in. Then Kofi runs down and evens the odds and they have a quick scuffle.

 

[Encyclopedia of Wrestling]

Turn Orton Face..Have Rhodes and Ted money bring in Brett Money and The Perfect son Joe Henning to complete a new Heal legacy group to feud with Orton..which will only elevate both sides have Cody be the Leader since he is better on the mic then Teddy then later on ted and brett can coax Joe Henning to turn on Cody then having him team back up with Randy at some point...IDK they prolly won't take the chance of having randy being a face even tho the fans cheer for him all the time and have since he started kicking skulls in.

 

[LamaNamaneumi]

I think with Ortons temper issues a face turn might not be the best decision. I could see Orton getting hurt and cussing at fans again, or throwing a fit over a botched spot. Not really face actions in my book. Orton should go back to his legend killer gimmick. with HBK and Taker getting close to the end of their careers.

As for Cody and Ted I don't think neither one of them needs to turn in order for a split to occur. Cody don't make a good face, I think that's why the fans were cheering for Orton during their scuffle.
I know everyone wants Ted to become a face, but when was the last time you supported the rich kid who always got what he wanted cause of daddy's money? Ted Dibiase is the perfect heel character IMO.

Where as I would like to see Cody and Ted stay a team I don't think that's going to happen after the segments they each had with Orton last night, but who knows. Maybe in the draft that comes after Wrestlemania Cody or Ted will be traded over to Smackdown. Then they could get the push to the main event level.

 

[pun2003hh]

Not really sure what is going to happen with this, but I did want to make one comment about his face reaction last night. The WWE creative staff may not be up to par nowadays, but I don't think they are completely incompetent. The face reaction that Orton received last night was exactly what they wanted. If they wanted Orton to play the strong heel role, they wouldn't have booked him in a Heel vs Heel title match at the PPV. In those situations, whomever is more over is usually the guy who will get the face reaction. I'm sure that played right into creative's hands.

 

[emerald phoenix]

i think after last night we could very well be looking at for wm

face orton(he was over huge last night, and him taking out both cody and ted only cemented further a face turn) vs heel cody vs tweener ted

but as someone else said which SHOULD be done.....orton drops out and younger brother and joe henning join

 

[Tastycles]

I don't think Orton is turning face. With Edge likely to return as a face, they need to keep him heel, unless one of DX turn. Not to mention the fact that his character is almost completely irreconsilable with being a face. What I'd like to see happening is Orton destroying them both and them getting released. What I think probably should and will happen is that one of them will get booted out for failing him, probably Rhodes, and then the other one will feud with that one for a while, before eventually turning on Orton. Whichever one breaks out second will then face him at WrestleMania, and will probably win.

I'm not sure what will happen to the other one, but I imagine it'll be Rhodes and he'll probably get a MITB spot. I think the fact that the big implosion didn't happen either during the Rumble or Orton's title match would suggest either this won't be that big an angle going into Mania, or it will come in the Elimination Chamber. Wait until we see who's in there and we will know how it's going to go.

 

[smalltownfan]

For starters, the Legacy trio is over and done. Legacy will continue as a tag team with Rhodes and Dibiase and Orton will either decide to leave them behind telling them they're on their own or Dibiase/Rhodes will beat Orton out of Legacy. The question is can Orton revert back to being a face after all these years as a heel. To me, he was a great face after being booted out of Evolution but I am wondering about this time around especially considering how intense he has become in the last few years. If it indeed becomes a 2-on-1 deal, then Orton can be the loner (like Austin and The Rock were) fighting his own battles or he can reach out for help. Who would help him, though? After everything he's done, can anyone trust him? Also, it was mentioned about Orton leaving and Brett Dibiase and Joe Henning being called up to join Legacy. Who would be the leader, though? Ted would be decent, but not strong. I don't think Rhodes or Ted are ready to lead a group.

 

[Boondocks]

I personally saw a few things I saw in this post. 1st, somebody said that WWE should bring back the legend killer gimmick, seeing as 'Taker and HBK are nearing retirement. HBK wants his match against 'Taker? I say if the WWE were to build it up right, put them in that match, but also include RKO and say something like if Randy pins either of them, he not only wins the WHC, the one he pins, retires. I dunno, but it would be a great match, IMO.

2nd, turning DiBiase face would be a fun idea. Somebody said the face would need to be the underdog if there were to be something with a bad break-up of Legacy. Have Cody and Ted get in a rivalry with Randy, then have Cody turn on Ted, thus most likely turning Ted face, and giving him quite the push. After all, I think we really need a new main event face in the RAW locker room. We've got Cena, HHH, and HBK. But these three have been around for quite a while. Ted's been in the WWE for what, almost 2 years? He's earning his keep, but being like an apprentice to Randy is keeping him high mid card at best. If it were to be RKO and Rhodes against Ted, he'd be on his way to the top.

This is my personal opinion of what I'd like to see.

 

[andymcg]

I actually think they will make Orton a anti war hero type guy such as SCSA and have it so its Orton Vs Rhodes AND Dibiase in a 2-on-1 handicap match at WM. How the match will finish i am kinda 50/50, give Orton the win to further his tweener type charcter, or Rhodes and Dibiase the win to give them a push as a tag team.

I definitely see Rhodes and Dibiase remaining a tag team though, and Orton futhering his carrer as a singles star. As someone said, Rhodes and Dibiase are young, theres year for there pushes.

 

[marklouis]

Let's go with this: Early tonight, Legacy and Orton bury the hatchet and seemingly get back together. They act as though they are on the same page until Elimination Chamber.

The entrants for that match are: Sheamus, Orton, Cena, Dibiase, Rhodes, and either HHH or HBK. During the match, Legacy turn on Orton and help Sheamus.

The next night on RAW, they explain that Sheamus has inspired them, shown them that you don't have to wait your turn or follow anyone else. Anyone can be world champion, anyone can main event a PPV. Orton becomes a semi-face, but really out of self preservation. You could see other young guys join-Carlito, Miz, Swagger, etc.

This could put the young guys over but also address something a lot of us complain about-that every PPV has the same guys in the main event.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

It's time for Orton and Legacy to officially break up. All of them are holding each other down and are frankly beginning to bore the audience. This breakup has been stretched out for so long now and it is absolutely boring people to tears ... especially with the repetitive match finishes with the Legacy interference.

If TNA was on when Legacy and Orton came out, I would honestly change the channel because I am that bored by the same constant thing out of this group.

Randy needs to go his own way.

Cody needs to go his own way.

And Dibiase needs to go his own way.

As much as I hate breaking Tag Teams up, WWE has very badly mismanaged this particular Tag Team by not giving either Dibiase or Rhodes their own unique personalities, when clearly you can tell they are being groomed for great singles careers.

They need to split up so that each member can have their own unique personality and way to be distinguished from the other.

And one of them needs to go to Smackdown as well, so they are on completely different shows from each other, so to resist the temptation from Creative to keep them paired together. That will make for a better investment in their Singles careers.

Once this transpires, they should go for the Intercontinental and US Championships. Rhodes and Dibiase are absolutely not Main Event material at this point, even though WWE had them working a high profile feud with DX. If WWE tries to send them to the Main Event, without Rhodes and Dibiase capturing the mid card titles and staying in the Mid card division for some time, they will pay a steep price as the audience will not take these two seriously.

 

[Suneeboy]

It's time for Orton and Legacy to officially break up. All of them are holding each other down and are frankly beginning to bore the audience. This breakup has been stretched out for so long now and it is absolutely boring people to tears ...

This is exactly what the program is doing. The WWE loves to drag stories out to the point of complete exhaustion. Combined with the poor commentary and the constant recaps during shows it makes for a stale angle weeks before it should be done.

The breakup should've come long ago when Orton punked out Dibiase, and Dibiase did absolutely nothing. People praised WWE's choice to have a slow break up, and look what happened. The angle is boring and I just want them to go their separate ways.