Randy Orton! Heel Turn Soon?
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Orton is a better heel than a face, but from the marketing standpoint face Orton means more money besides his heel character has kind of ran it's course as far as what type of evil deeds can you really do in a PG environment? someone once mentioned on the board could a face Orton vs a heel Cena draw and I have to say after he does that feud in a year or two that would be an ideal time to turn him heel again...
TheHeartbreakPunk
HBK for life
No, its just advertising for the elimination chamber match. I think that these are just signs that he is going back to his tweener character that the crowd. Hell work with faces sometimes, but if you get in his way expect an rko, or maybe even a punt to the skull(which by the way i think ids going to happen to wade barrett soon)
Unlikely. It's pretty standard fare in the WWE for top level faces to attack anyone who gets in their way, regardless of whether or not that person is a face or heel. It's doubly true as we approach the Elimination Chamber, where it's in Randy's best interests to have his opponents as weak as possible on the way there. An RKO to Khali certainly serves that interest. Big Show and Orton's little spat is probably more indicative of Show turning heel to set up the Shaq match rather than Orton turning heel himself. Reading the recent actions and interactions of Randy Orton as a prelude to a heel turn is probably a mistake.
As for whether or not it should happen, like so much of the near future of the WWE, this depends entirely on whether or not John Cena turns heel at WrestleMania. Certainly the face/heel dynamic of the WWE could not possibly sustain both Orton and Cena being heels at the same time. The WWE does seem to lack something in the way of main event heels at the moment, however, with Jericho being the best they've got. Henry being injured (and unlikely to sustain his time in the main event after his return, if recent history is any indication) and Bryan's success as a main event heel uncertain for the time being, one does feel a certain dearth of main event heels. Supposing Cena remains a face, there's an argument to be had for Orton turning heel and perhaps reprising his feud on with CM Punk on SmackDown in 2012. I prefer the alternative of elevating some of the very good upper-midcard heels that are about now - Rhodes, Barrett - but still, one might make the argument.
As for whether or not it should happen, like so much of the near future of the WWE, this depends entirely on whether or not John Cena turns heel at WrestleMania. Certainly the face/heel dynamic of the WWE could not possibly sustain both Orton and Cena being heels at the same time. The WWE does seem to lack something in the way of main event heels at the moment, however, with Jericho being the best they've got. Henry being injured (and unlikely to sustain his time in the main event after his return, if recent history is any indication) and Bryan's success as a main event heel uncertain for the time being, one does feel a certain dearth of main event heels. Supposing Cena remains a face, there's an argument to be had for Orton turning heel and perhaps reprising his feud on with CM Punk on SmackDown in 2012. I prefer the alternative of elevating some of the very good upper-midcard heels that are about now - Rhodes, Barrett - but still, one might make the argument.
I wish he would turn heel agaimn but I dont see it yet,especially w/ the possible Cena heel turn. They wont turn both those guys heel that soon apart.
Orton was great this week,just being angry at everyone and the fans seemed to eat it all up. He needs to be this way nall the time.
Orton was great this week,just being angry at everyone and the fans seemed to eat it all up. He needs to be this way nall the time.
Ahhhh, no. If anything he is just reverting to that badass face that everyone loved at wrestlemania 26 and around that time. I think it makes sense. Think about it, if Orton is sold as this dangerous, unstable competitor, does it really make sense that he smiles and teams up with faces to take out certain heels on Smackdown? no. So I say no to a heel turn but yes to a slight character tweak.
King of the Words
Getting Noticed By Management
Hasn't anyone noticed how Sheamus is being built up as the new face of SD? He won the Rumble and is all about the anti-bullying campaign. I see him being the top face on SD by Mania and winning the WHC. title from either Bryan or hopefully Orton. This could free up some room for Orton's character to become jealous of Sheamus and a descent heel turn can follow. I see these 2 guys battling for top spot on SD for a couple of months after Mania with Sheamus the face and Orton the heel. Maybe it will be a back and forth feud like orton and Christian last year that will cultimate at Summer Slam. I wouldn't mind seeing that.
nope.
Isn't it part of the "viper" character to be unpredictable?
If he was doing all the typical good guy crap, then he would be contradicting his own character to a massive degree, and unless he goes full crazy and smashes the hell out of an extremely over face, there's no chance of him being booed.
Also, he's the Cena of smackdown, unless someone takes his place he'll never venture into the dark side, seeing as the only other strong face there is sheamus, who isn't top of the mountain just yet, he can't go heel anytime soon.
Isn't it part of the "viper" character to be unpredictable?
If he was doing all the typical good guy crap, then he would be contradicting his own character to a massive degree, and unless he goes full crazy and smashes the hell out of an extremely over face, there's no chance of him being booed.
Also, he's the Cena of smackdown, unless someone takes his place he'll never venture into the dark side, seeing as the only other strong face there is sheamus, who isn't top of the mountain just yet, he can't go heel anytime soon.
TakerDakSide
Occasional Pre-Show
Uh, No.
He attacked Big Show & Great Khali to gain momentum heading towards the Elimnation Chamber. Plus of course he's supposed to attack allcomers. According to his gimmick he's obviously to stand alone anywaus. So expect him to this type of thing again & to other faces he's opposes to the Chamber.
He attacked Big Show & Great Khali to gain momentum heading towards the Elimnation Chamber. Plus of course he's supposed to attack allcomers. According to his gimmick he's obviously to stand alone anywaus. So expect him to this type of thing again & to other faces he's opposes to the Chamber.
No way. He is arguably the most over face in WWE and has been doing wonders lately. The Randy Orton face turn is still not boring and the crowd are loving him, I'm loving him and most of all WWE are loving him. He only attacked Big Show because he lost him the match and even told Big Show to not interfere because it was his turn to get a hold of Bryan yet Big Show got him DQ. It is always normal for faces to attack other faces if it involves the title so don't read much into it. Plus Smackdown have way too many heel main eventers so turning Randy heel would leave for the Big Show to be the only main event face on the show along with Sheamus.
Martin Gabriel
Pre-Show Stalwart
I agree with you Harthan, there's a larger supply of mid-card heels at present than faces, so they need top tier talents like Orton to give them rubs. (Sounds dirty.) Plus I think I kind of prefer his work as a face. He's reverted back to using some of his cool spots from earlier in his career, like the schoolboy in the corner and the neckbreaker out of the gutwrench clutch. I honestly feel like he's one of the best overall performers in the company as a face and fans just eat his shtick up. And I don't mind at all if he mixes it up with other faces from time to time, it gives him a similar edge that Stone Cold possessed, a man both he and Punk have been compared to.
The one thing Orton needs to work on are his promos. They have been horribly bland for so long now and I didn't see him do one slightly entertaining promo all last year. He seems like a natural asshole so he definitely is better at being a heel promo wise, I just don't know why he is so excruciatingly bland on the mic as a face. It's gotten to the point where they don't give him mic time or promos anymore it's usually just a shot of him backstage or hyping up one of his matches.
Apart from that though Orton is brilliant he is an amazing wrestler and plays his character so well while in the ring too. He puts on brilliant matches consistently and is a superb athlete. He has done helped elevate both Cody and Barret recently and I'm sure he will continue to help these two along. He has done absolute wonders for Barret and he is also the one that put over Henry for the title.
I just don't know how they are going to push him as the top face again with the title if he doesn't improve his promo work. If he has another big reign and does the same bland promos every week then people will start to sick of him. If they can add some flair to his promos to match how he is when in the ring then he he will be great.
Apart from that though Orton is brilliant he is an amazing wrestler and plays his character so well while in the ring too. He puts on brilliant matches consistently and is a superb athlete. He has done helped elevate both Cody and Barret recently and I'm sure he will continue to help these two along. He has done absolute wonders for Barret and he is also the one that put over Henry for the title.
I just don't know how they are going to push him as the top face again with the title if he doesn't improve his promo work. If he has another big reign and does the same bland promos every week then people will start to sick of him. If they can add some flair to his promos to match how he is when in the ring then he he will be great.
Big Nick Dudley
Nick
This idea never gets old. I can laugh at it for hours. Why would Randy Orton turn heel right now? Why? It doesn't make a damn bit of sense. He's the most over guy on the roster (along with Punk, HHH, and Undertaker). A few thousand moronic internet fans hate the guy, but that's it. It's not like he's getting the Cena treatment. If that starts happening, sure, turn him.
Right now, the fans love him. He puts on great matches, and comes across as a legitimate badass. It wouldn't make any sense. It's fucking stupid, actually.
There's not much of a point in turning Orton heel. He's extremely popular right now and people want to see him win matches. The reactions that the RKO or his entrance get from fans is proof of that. They are already pushing Bryan as the next big heel on Smackdown. They also have Henry and Christian. Why ruin Orton's popularity (or potentially, the pushes of the other heels) with a random heel turn when he is doing well as Smackdown's answer to Cena? Orton is not turning heel anytime soon.
The only way they could possibly turn him and it not be a mistake would be if they planned on pushing someone new into his spot as the top face. Someone would need to be ready to completely replace him as the face of Smackdown. Sheamus could be the perfect candidate for that, but Orton still receives stronger face reactions, plus Orton would get lost in the shuffle of heels if he turned now. They should keep him face for now because there's nothing to be gained from it other than making a small fraction of the fanbase happy. Most of the people ordering the PPV shows or buying the merchandise likely want him to stay a face, so he's not turning.
The only way they could possibly turn him and it not be a mistake would be if they planned on pushing someone new into his spot as the top face. Someone would need to be ready to completely replace him as the face of Smackdown. Sheamus could be the perfect candidate for that, but Orton still receives stronger face reactions, plus Orton would get lost in the shuffle of heels if he turned now. They should keep him face for now because there's nothing to be gained from it other than making a small fraction of the fanbase happy. Most of the people ordering the PPV shows or buying the merchandise likely want him to stay a face, so he's not turning.
raymond_852
New Member
There is no way that Randy Orton does a heel turn in the near future. Randy Orton is too valuable to the WWE in appealing to the crowd. They are already in the process of turning Cena heel so why would they turn two of their biggest (if not the two biggest) names at the same time. Maybe a heel Cena vs. face Orton feud is coming in the near future?
A million times no!
What's the point? All his career he as been heel. Not to mention, the last time he was heel, everyone bitched and moaned because he was stale, boring, monotone voiced, had nothing to offer.
I love how Randy Orton is now, and he needs to stay that way for a while. If you want him to turn heel, then who would we have left as a main face on Smackdown? Big Show? Sorry, but I don't want to see Big Show for too much longer. The Apex Predator, The Viper Randy Orton is doing great as a face, and I love his character.
What's the point? All his career he as been heel. Not to mention, the last time he was heel, everyone bitched and moaned because he was stale, boring, monotone voiced, had nothing to offer.
I love how Randy Orton is now, and he needs to stay that way for a while. If you want him to turn heel, then who would we have left as a main face on Smackdown? Big Show? Sorry, but I don't want to see Big Show for too much longer. The Apex Predator, The Viper Randy Orton is doing great as a face, and I love his character.
greginator5000
Dark Match Jobber
I think it would be awesome if Randy was a heel again. But I doubt it because Cena is likely to turn heel. And his sells would go way down. But the tweener is still nice.
NEEDS to be a heel desperately. I'm sorry but he is just SOOOOO boring face.
Why does he never talk? I understand he is trying to do the whole cool guy thing but it's only cool once in a while. Randy Orton just never talks ever. He's worse than Jericho was.
Orton is at his best when he is doing his heel promo's and winding up the audience. I hate his whole face thing. Arrive, have a predictable match, say nothing, go home. and repeat.
Why does he never talk? I understand he is trying to do the whole cool guy thing but it's only cool once in a while. Randy Orton just never talks ever. He's worse than Jericho was.
Orton is at his best when he is doing his heel promo's and winding up the audience. I hate his whole face thing. Arrive, have a predictable match, say nothing, go home. and repeat.
