Where to start with this first of all you contributed nothing different from your first post you just responded to mine with equally wrong stuff.
That's because you ignored most of the points in my original post. Oh and based on how the majority of my post was opinion (saying Orton is boring), I don't see how that could be "wrong stuff"
It's pretty obvious the "smarks" all boo Cena and cheer Orton because Cena is public enemy number one. The poster child for this awful pathetic "PG era", that attracts women and children and gives the middle finger to old school long time wrestling fans as well as young adult males.
Yeah, okay, now you're going to blame Cena for why Orton gets cheers. Like I already said in my last post, Orton and Cena feuded in 2007 and Orton got way less cheers compared to today, even though the crowd was much more anti-cena back then.
He's getting cheers because his gimmick is "cool". Not because the crowd hates Cena.
Orton meanwhile is the light at the end of the tunnel the "smarks" all cheer him mainly against Cena. Because they see the old school style in him when he punted VKM it was instant support from the "smarks. It was like SCSA to them because it's the closest we can get to the glory years. Now we get a suck up wannabe movie star that might as well be the microphone Vince uses, little leprechauns running around and an overall terrible product see where I'm getting at here ?
Exactly. Apparently somebody thought it would get Orton heel heat if he were to kick an old guy that nobody likes in the head, get a cool new theme song, and make him pretend he has a mental condition. Orton isn't going to get a lot of boos because the crowd thinks the "sadist" heels are cool. That's why, for example, Kane always gets cheers even though he's a heel.
The gimmick stinks. He gets cheered for being a cool heel, and yet he bores the hell out of the average viewer who isn't a fanboy/girl for him.
By the way that whole section of your post was a big contradiction you criticize Orton for getting cheered yet ignore Cena's boos ? Tsk tsk that just doesn't work here they should both get equal treatment your bias hatred towards Orton is showing.
My bias hatred? I already said that I don't hate Orton, I'm just not entertained by him at all.
The reason why I didn't go on about Cena's boos, is because this thread is called RANDY ORTON, not John Cena. I find Cena boring as well but it would be off topic if I talked about Cena in a thread called Randy Orton, you know?
To blame the woes of Raw all on Orton is completely asinine and laughable and it just shows that you can't give a good opinion on Orton because you obviously hate him with a passion. How about creative and the inability to create new stars as well as awful booking ? But I'm sure in your deluded world all wrestling's problems can be directly related to Randy Orton.
Well it would help RAW if their champ could keep me awake through the main event. And again, I don't hate Orton, he's just boring.
Oh and as long as Orton has so much say in who gets fired/hired by the wwe (coughEugenecough) I don't see why I shouldn't blame the "inability to create new stars" at least partially on him.
Look I take every posters opinion on here seriously but you have shown me that you refuse to accept that it's Orton's character you hate you have danced around that statement quite well.
Yes, I danced around that. Even though in my last post I flat-out said that I knew it was Orton's character. And that it just so happened that I am not entertained by his character. So if you convince yourself that it's fun to watch a guy stomp around for a whole wrestling match or that's it's fun to watch him take twelve minutes to get to the ring, simply because it's his character, then you have fun watching him but we obviously have different tastes.
While you turn off your t.v. millions of others watch so obviously the powers at be feel he is the best for the job but I'm sure you know who could be a better champ. Your avatar is a Kennedy one figures a botch monkey who was always hurt and now is crying and whining his way to TNA.
Please tell me how the possibility that Kennedy is crying right now affects the fact that Orton is boring.
Haha your making this too easy every "mid card heel" that's not the top like I said in only takes you so far see Orton's IC title reign and god awful WHC reign. MVP, Masters Carlito are all doomed to the mid-card for life Orton wisely changed his gimmick and perfected it.
Well maybe that's because the three guys you listed aren't cocky young heels any more. MVP is a face, Carlito looks depressed and they don't give Masters any mic time so you can't exactly call him cocky. Besides I disagree with you that they are all doomed to the midcard. Any one of them as main eventers would be more entertaining than Orton. (though that is a completely biased statement because I am a fan of all three of them)
Reading through your post I finally found some sense of acceptance that Orton's gimmick is what you hate it took some time but maybe just maybe you will understand.
I really can't go anywhere else here you just repeat yourself the whole time saying that Orton is boring. While there was a small acknowledgment it's his character most of this post just reaffirms my initial belief going in that your not very wrestling savvy.
How do you think a Viper acts ?? Does a Viper chase his prey around does a Viper jump around ? Or does a Viper slowly stalk his prey (stomps, rest holds, rope assisted DDT, slow ring entrance etc.) Before delivering the final blow to finish off his prey (RKO or Punt). You claim you don't need to be educated on wrestling (I highly disagree but I digress) but maybe you need some education on the animal kingdom instead ?
You are misunderstanding me completely. I never once said that Orton doesn't play his character well. Because that would be a flat-out lie, he plays his character great.
I AM SAYING THAT HIS CHARACTER SUCKS. Just because he is playing his role well doesn't mean that I'm entertained by it.
Quit telling me I need an education, that's degrading