Quran Burning in Florida.

they better don't do it.

Quran is the only thing in Islam which directly represents Allah and it's the only thing that all Musilms with all their differences , believe in.

This could be a potential war starter.I mean Musilms wash their hands carefully and keep their bodies totally clean while reading Quran.That easily shows what a role Quran plays in their religion.
 
they better don't do it.

Quran is the only thing in Islam which directly represents Allah and it's the only thing that all Musilms with all their differences , believe in.

This could be a potential war starter.I mean Musilms wash their hands carefully and keep their bodies totally clean while reading Quran.That easily shows what a role Quran plays in their religion.

And the Bible is what the Christians believe is the word of God, and Muslims burn them all the time. The bible is the cornerstone and foundation of Christianity it plays the exact same role as the Quran, yet Christians have started no wars.
 
To quote something off that first link



Funny since a lot of people think all Muslims are terrorists based off of a group of people who did something in the name of that faith :shrug:

A lot of people doesnt represent the majority of Americans or one religion. Anti-Christians use the same logic regarding the Crusades and its still false logic.
 
No he doesnt, just as the Cleric whom builds his mosque doesnt. They are radicals.
Are you saying that every Mosque built is built by radicals?

No, this is of course where common sense comes in in our country, very few have this.
Agreed

Im assuming this is directed at him. But really this shouldnt be doing as much as its being made out to be. Muslim Churches in AMERICA burn Bibles all the time, do Christians riot and kill people and blow shit up? No. They have in the past, just like people of most religions when you have radical elements.
The media in this nation is totally overblowing this situation though. Wow someone whos religion states all others is wrong/evil(just like pretty much every other one) is burning books he finds evil. The media is attacking him and yeling about him and Obama is even thinking about calling him. get the fuck over it. You people have no right to stop him if he wants to be a dumbass or you dont agree.
Yes it was directed at him. He's not saying ALL religion's are wrong or evil, but he is labeling a religion for something that a few people did. Is that fair to condem all the innocent followers of Islam who only want peace? For the safety of others, they have every right to actually. If they fear for their own safety, then people will do anything they want to stop this guy.

In your opinion yes, but we cant go applying the same to others. I would NEVER burn an American flag because I love this country and what it stands for, but last I recall its protected under the 1st Amendment, thus you are free to do so.
See, I mentioned it because I'm not American. I do not live in the country, I do have family that does, but I myself am not there. That is why I really don't NEED to worry about this, but I do. I have been to Afghanistan, I have friends there now, as well as a few friends in Iraq. I worry for them, and what this could bring for them if it happens. If he does this, he is doing the very thing he is condemning the Muslims for. A terrorist act.
 
Awesome. Now they'll show this video all over the Middle East and they'll begin another plot to bomb us again.
 
Actually the guy who's backing it, is also the second largest contributor to Fox News. Go figure eh?
 
Are you saying that every Mosque built is built by radicals?

No, I was refering to the one building it in NYC right now, he is a radical and that has been proven, not that it should matter as he still has the right to build it, but I dont personally think he should.

Agreed

Yes it was directed at him. He's not saying ALL religion's are wrong or evil, but he is labeling a religion for something that a few people did.
Yes, well hes wrong. That doesnt given him any less of a right to practice what he wants.

Is that fair to condem all the innocent followers of Islam who only want peace?

Youre asking the wrong question. This is this man's BELIEFS, we have no right to condemn him for those, and America has no right to stop him from burning books he sees as evil. Fairness has no place here.

For the safety of others, they have every right to actually. If they fear for their own safety, then people will do anything they want to stop this guy.

They shouldnt, hes expressing his freedom of speech. And doing things for the public or national safety have justified horrible things. The Patriot Act was created for this reason, look what its done. The president has authorized assassinating American citizens if he feels they are a threat.

Our nation is built on individual rights, and if someone does something incredibly stupid hes protected. We can agree on if its evil or not all day, but he still has every right to do this and they have ZERO right to stop him just because a bunch of people will get pissed off.

See, I mentioned it because I'm not American. I do not live in the country, I do have family that does, but I myself am not there. That is why I really don't NEED to worry about this, but I do.

I understand your concerns, and this mans action may bring on a lot of bad repercussions, or it might not. People duck and cover whenever Muslims say shit will happen in this country, South Park even did a great satire of it. But the attacks will happen no matter what until we pull out of the nations, which should be done right now.

I have been to Afghanistan, I have friends there now, as well as a few friends in Iraq. I worry for them, and what this could bring for them if it happens. If he does this, he is doing the very thing he is condemning the Muslims for. A terrorist act.

Ok, I didnt know you were in the military but you have just earned my respect for that. On that subject however the truth is attacks on Americans are generated by us being there in their countries in the first place, not by religion. Whenever we are in anothers nation people will be angered by that, the religion is simply the justification. They may get angry but the attacks would have happened anyway due to the outrage over our occupation of their land.

The solution to this? Immediate withdrawal.
 
Actually the guy who's backing it, is also the second largest contributor to Fox News. Go figure eh?

What the hell are you talking about? Im watching it right now and they have been ripping the guy an new asshole all day. Stop listening to the bullshit propaganda. At least 3 big names on this channel have called him insane within the past hour.

Now he might contribute money to them, but that doesnt mean shit about them, especially when theyve been calling him a nut.
 
Blatantly stating incorrect facts makes you an even better debater

Ill post the whole thing in here so you and your tiny brain can comprehend what I ACTUALLY SAID.

ME said:
And the Bible is what the Christians believe is the word of God, and Muslims burn them all the time. The bible is the cornerstone and foundation of Christianity it plays the exact same role as the Quran, yet Christians have started no wars.

I was CLEARLY referring to modern times and stating that Christians have started no wars over their Bibles being burnt. So your blatant attempt to take me out of context has been noted, and youve lost credit in this debate.
 
Ill post the whole thing in here so you and your tiny brain can comprehend what I ACTUALLY SAID.



I was CLEARLY referring to modern times and stating that Christians have started no wars over their Bibles being burnt. So your blatant attempt to take me out of context has been noted, and youve lost credit in this debate.

How is that referring to modern times? Where did you specify a timeline in those 2 sentences? all you said was christians dont start wars which is clearly false...

You wanna resort to insults fine. All i was doing was pointing out a factually incorrect statement you made and you got butthurt.
 
The number one thing that puts people off Christianity is people doing unchristian things and claiming it's Christian.

Lee aged 24 3/4s a Bible believing Christian
 
How is that referring to modern times? Where did you specify a timeline in those 2 sentences? all you said was christians don't start wars which is clearly false... if you had add "over bibles being burnt" to the end then that's fine but you didnt.

You wanna resort to insults fine. All i was doing was pointing out a factually incorrect statement you made and you got butthurt.

Note to a mod: Tried to edit, didnt mean to double post
 
How is that referring to modern times? Where did you specify a timeline in those 2 sentences? all you said was christians dont start wars which is clearly false...

You wanna resort to insults fine. All i was doing was pointing out a factually incorrect statement you made and you got butthurt.

I pointed it out before hand in my other statements, you must read whole things for correct context, Im not posting it all, you go read it.

And of course this turned into an anti-Christian thing. This is about the first amendment and civil liberties, which this man has.

Also you insulted me by purposely distorting what I said, youre a shit debater and youve proven that today. So I bid you farewell for now.
 
I pointed it out before hand in my other statements, you must read whole things for correct context, Im not posting it all, you go read it.

And of course this turned into an anti-Christian thing. This is about the first amendment and civil liberties, which this man has.

Also you insulted me by purposely distorting what I said, youre a shit debater and youve proven that today. So I bid you farewell for now.

Where did I distort what you said? You said Christians dont start wars. You can see that in your own post, you even quoted it again so my tiny brain could comprehend.

I'm not being anti christian, im being anti religious. Christians have started plenty of wars in the past. i'm simply making that clear.

How is this a debate? I tried to correct an incorrect statement, you got butthurt and insulted me and now you've flounced off in a huff like a petulant child
 
Dude the "christians start war thing is as stupid as saying "hehe america kicked britains ass" and "all germans are nazi's"
 
Dude the "christians start war thing is as stupid as saying "hehe america kicked britains ass" and "all germans are nazi's"

Or like saying all muslims are extremist radicals?

Furyof5 said Christians dont start wars, i was merely pointing out they have in the past, not saying they do now, not saying they will in the future, not saying that christians are bloodthirsty warmongers.

But wars have been started because of christianity... thats all im saying
 
Okay before it gets out of hand, I did not want this to turn Anti Christian, or Anti Muslim. Rather the acts of one man, may put the lives of thousands in jeopardy.

You brought up South Park earlier, perfect example. They had every right to show the Muslim prophet in their episode. Every right. But they censored him anyway. For the first time SOUTH PARK censored something out. Hell his very NAME was censored in the second part. There is no copy of that episode uncensored. Or how about Dr.Laura, or anyone else who went on a "******, ******, ******" rant. Freedom of speech? yes. But were they punished for it? Damn right they were. Just because you have the freedom to do something, does not mean it's socially acceptable. Rights are a made up thing, they're an idea. Where do rights come from? People say from God. Well how does that apply in today's culture? The bill of rights has been amended 17 times since it's "Creation" So who knows, one day it may be amended again to say something about this being bad. You speak of rights, well if the "rights of Americans" are so indefinite, then what about the Japanese-American's in 1942? Where were their rights? The government took them away as they saw fit. No lawyer, no trial, nothing. So what makes this one man so important? There is no "Rights" they are PRIVILEGES. A right can not be taken away, only a privilege can. THAT'S why this man should be stopped. He's abusing his privileges, and should be taken away.
 

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