PWF Answers Wrestling Questions

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Oh Sweet Jesus. Let me guess, because you think he's a great worker right?

He may oversell half the time, but he can work a match and also half the time he 's the guy that it's handling the instructions to other wrestlers. If you watched botchamania at least, you would know that. Also, his looks and the fact that he makes the crowd cheer or boo (depends if they are the so called hardcore fans or not) makes him a good choice. Unless you are a bit of an ass and that rant about Hogan being great because he moved crowds was nonsense.
 
Because he's wrong, for one. But I get it, he thinks Hogan is a bad wrestler. Of course, you just happen to pick the worst match Hogan had, but fine. But at least recognize that without him, wrestling as you know it doesn't exist.

Oh, and if you really think Hogan set up the generation of generic faces, boy do I have a team of uninspired writing team members to show you. All of which Hogan didn't use

You can't prove that he's wrong for disliking a person, I mean it's personal taste and you gotta learn how to respect it. Oh and I respect Hogan, I know what he's done and he deserves to be one of the greats without a doubt but what I'm trying to say is that people can dislike Hogan for some reasons, ence the awful match.

And setting up the bar for what we call generic faces is a proof that he had impact (lol it wasn't on purpose). If Hogan was a redneck like Austin, probably being an Austin look a like would be the generic thing, so it was a compliment to Hogan's career.
 
It's a compulsion to at least acknowledge how much he means to wrestling. And, we come back to the main point that I never understood... Why does it mater that I'm a Hulk Hogan fan?

Let me stop you right now... I know what it is, and it's actually fair. You're retaliating because I continue to say you know nothing about wrestling. And that's a valid response, but I'm not saying it to be mean... I'm saying it because it's true. Look at half of the responses you got in this thread.

I wouldn't have a problem with you if you didn't present yourself as this genius of a wrestling fan, which you do. And I hope if you've picked anything up from this failure of a thread, it's that you're not near as intelligent a wrestling fan as you make yourself out to be. So go watch some wrestling, come back to earth a little, and maybe you won't have so many people think that you're an absolute idiot.

And I know, this all seems so, so mean. Just trying to help ya, holmes
 
It's a compulsion to at least acknowledge how much he means to wrestling. And, we come back to the main point that I never understood... Why does it mater that I'm a Hulk Hogan fan?

Let me stop you right now... I know what it is, and it's actually fair. You're retaliating because I continue to say you know nothing about wrestling. And that's a valid response, but I'm not saying it to be mean... I'm saying it because it's true. Look at half of the responses you got in this thread.

I wouldn't have a problem with you if you didn't present yourself as this genius of a wrestling fan, which you do. And I hope if you've picked anything up from this failure of a thread, it's that you're not near as intelligent a wrestling fan as you make yourself out to be. So go watch some wrestling, come back to earth a little, and maybe you won't have so many people think that you're an absolute idiot.

And I know, this all seems so, so mean. Just trying to help ya, holmes

Wrestling fans? or Wrestling nerds? or smarks? You are the perfect example of IWC. And you just hate my opinion because I prefer wrestlers with technical skills but you like your wrestlers because of their characters. And you just know the same like all others do. You don't work in a wrestling company.
 
Okay kiddo, I've got a few for you. I want you to answer the following questions from the Debater's League. Please explain your answers coherently and rationally.

1. Do dirt sheets and insider websites (such as Wrestlezone) enhance or ruin professional wrestling?

2. As an on-screen character, will Triple H ever become a better figurehead than Vince McMahon once was?

3. Is Vince McMahon a creative genius or an idea thief?

4. Are championship belts what defines greatness in wrestling?

To keep this thread from getting even worse somehow, let's see what I can come up with.

1. On their own, neither. However once the WWE starts catering to those fans, THEN things become a problem. The WON has existed since the 80s and things went just fine. However, at the end of the day when you cater to internet fans and try to swerve people all the time, you alienate the vast majority of your audience who doesn't care about wrestling enough to comment on it on the internet. See, we watch wrestling in a bubble. I watch every show there is and I constantly think about the shows. A lot of fans MIGHT watch once every two to three weeks and don't think about wrestling in between. If you're catering a show to the fans like us and ignoring the masses, you're going to be in a lot of trouble very quickly.

2. No. His in ring work will always overshadow his post in ring career stuff.

3. Not entirely a genius but he knew how to market what he had better than anyone else in history. Almost every story you ever see in wrestling is lifted from someone else. The man most commonly credited with most wrestling storylines is Eddie Graham from Florida.

4. Quick question:

Is David Arquette greater than Ted Dibiase? He has more singles titles.
 
Wrestling fans? or Wrestling nerds? or smarks? You are the perfect example of IWC.

Oh, that's rich. The guy who thinks Dolph Ziggler should be WWE champion is telling the guy who likes Hulk Hogan he represents the IWC. We're both the IWC, jack, we really are.

Oh, and as though you don't present yourself as the most intelligent fan on this forum, which you aren't...


Wrestling Thread of the Year Award : Any of my threads.
 
Oh, and for anyone that has been defending this jackass by saying it's his opinion, perhaps you should read wha he thinks of his opinion



ProWrestlingFan. He is one of the best posters on this site. His posts are awesome


His opinions are fact.

Of course, he tried to delete the opinions are fact part. After he was rightfully given shit
 
Oh, you completely misunderstand. I don't hate you. I think you're one of those individuals who are best suited being sterilized. But I don't hate you. In fact, I want to make your job easier. So I'll help you by answering any questions that other fans may have of your wonderful taste in wrestling.

Enjoy, guys!

Fuck ring psychology. All they do is pretend fight. It isn't a sport.

Doing athletic moves > Fake punches

Why do fans of the "Golden Era" of WWF think that Golden Era was so good? What was so good about it? The wrestling was mediocre (Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Brutus Beefcake, Rick Martel,etc). Wrestling just became mainstream in that time period because of Hulk Hogan but Wrestling wasn't that good that some fans of that era made it out to be. Even JCP/NWA/WCW was better that the Golden Era WWF. Look at any Ric Flair/Sting, Flair /Steamboat match.90s WWF was filled with cartoon characters (Red Rooster WTF) NWA/WCW had better wrestler too Tully Blanchard, Nikita Koloff, Barry Windham, Great Muta etc.

Post some matches of the Golden Era WWF (other than Ricky Steamboat and Randy Savage) that were a 5 star classics like Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels, Kurt Angle/Benoit matches.
 
I thought this 4 questions were actually great ones so I will also try to give my opinions on the matter and hopefully get into a good wrestling debate:

1. Do dirt sheets and insider websites (such as Wrestlezone) enhance or ruin professional wrestling?

KB's says neither, I say both and it depends in what you want to read in fact. As much as you value your opinion, it's also great to read/hear other people opinions in life and about every thing, so wrestling is the same thing, and podcasts like CSR, or the reports in Bleacher Report is things that helps you get excited to an event, at least it works for me sometimes the way they put up things. However, they do have a downside, and that will depend like I said in what you want to read. Things like confirmed returns will kill the impact of said return, however teases that some worker may return in the future can put you both marking out because you waited for it, or just let down because you knew. I'm assuming that only IWC guys go to those websites, so I'm just talking about the way we see wrestling, because regular fans don't give a crap about WrestleZone really.

2. As an on-screen character, will Triple H ever become a better figurehead than Vince McMahon once was?
I don't know that, I can't predict the future as much as I would love to. We are talking about Triple H, one of the best superstars of all time, filled with talent and the thing we call charisma so there is always a chance that he can portray an awesome role like McMahon did in the last 15 years or so, and probably surpass him, but we don't know and in wrestling everything is possible from what we all saw to this day.

3. Is Vince McMahon a creative genius or an idea thief?
You gotta respect McMahon's way to see things. He grabbed a brand as WWWF and he turned that into a worldwide company know known as WWE, so his idea to bet on marketing and to go out and create bigger than life characters and to give people things like Flag on a Pole match between an USA hero and a Foreigner Villain changed the complex of wrestling. He is a genius just for the fact that WWE grew into the machine that it has become and it really doesn't matter if he stole the idea, because if he did he deserves respect for making it work for more than 25 years as THE wrestling company.

4. Are championship belts what defines greatness in wrestling?
Not always like KB's exemplified but it sure doesn't hurt them either. When a guy becomes a champion you gotta see that the fact that he did, was for a good reason. Even David Arquette, people to this day talk about it and he's still an avid wrestling fan so in the mids of a "war" Arquette gave people something to talk about, and in the end what defines greatness in wrestling, is what the fans respond to your accomplishments, if they talk about it, and it really doesn't matter if they say nice things or bad things, the fact that fans talk about it means that you've made an impact and created an highlight in wrestling history.

That was fun!
 
Wrestling fans? or Wrestling nerds? or smarks? You are the perfect example of IWC. And you just hate my opinion because I prefer wrestlers with technical skills but you like your wrestlers because of their characters. And you just know the same like all others do. You don't work in a wrestling company.

What fucking world do you live in? You're the one spouting off smark cliches like a fucking idiot. Technical skills? What the fuck is wrong with you? You can go on Youtube and see little kids performing these exact fucking moves on a trampoline, the only thing wrestlers know that the kids don't is how to bump properly.

It doesn't take an awful lot of skill to do wrestling moves. It takes talent to make people give a fuck about the match.
 
More PWF thoughts! On what he thinks was the best year in wrestling!


2002 and 2003 were the best. The WWE was stacked with talent. Even mid-card talent was much better than it is today. RAW and Smackdown both had awesome PPVs. Hulk Hogan, HHH, Goldberg, Kevin Nash, Kurt Angle, Brock Lesnar,Chris Benoit, etc etc. The roster was stacked. Best years of WWE in my opinion.
 
How could he not mention Scott Steiner? His amazing matches with Triple H were a highlight of those golden years.
 
More PWF thoughts! On what he thinks was the best year in wrestling!

And and tell me how your 80s were better when most matches were either squashes or conisted of wrestlers that nobody cared about? The roster of 2002-03 was great (Kurt Angle,Eddie Guerrero,etc) compared to Red Rooster or Barry Horowitz or Rick Martel. You are just a "Golden era" Hogan mark.
 
And and tell me how your 80s were better when most matches were either squashes or conisted of wrestlers that nobody cared about? The roster of 2002-03 was great (Kurt Angle,Eddie Guerrero,etc) compared to Red Rooster or Barry Horowitz or Rick Martel. You are just a "Golden era" Hogan mark.

Rick Martel was fucking great! You lost me now!
 
Moar thoughts!


WWE's top guys : Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, Steve Austin,John Cena, Randy Orton,CM Punk.

WCW's top guys : Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Bill Goldberg

All those guys wrestled with their real names and are considered all time greats. None of them needed an over-the-top character to succeed.

Note some of the names that are listed there!

Royal Rumble since debuting in 1988 has been one of WWE's most important PPVs of the year. At Royal Rumble the buildup to the biggest event of the year (Wrestlemania) starts.

Every year 30 wrestlers compete in a Royal Rumble match (except Royal Rumble 2011) to get a chance to headline Wrestlemania (or get a title match at Wrestlemania since they don't headline anymore).

My favorites would be Royal Rumble 1997, Royal Rumble 2003 and Royal Rumble 2005.

Honorable mentions : Royal Rumble 1999, Royal Rumble 2001 and Royal Rumble 2004.

Which is your favorite Royal Rumble match?

1999 Royal Rumble he says!
 
Must have sucked for you but not for everybody. You can't expect everybody to like what you like.

Jesus, man. If you can't come up with a legitimate defense, why do you even bother stating your useless opinion?

Sure, not everybody hated it. It was a lot closer to everybody than it was to nobody though.
 
Please, tell us of the riveting Scott Steiner Triple H matches!

Or Al Wilson-Dawn Marie!

Or Stephanie McMahon-Vince McMahon! I quit match!

And let's not forget Triple H's run with the World Title!
 
Please, tell us of the riveting Scott Steiner Triple H matches!

Or Al Wilson-Dawn Marie!

Or Stephanie McMahon-Vince McMahon! I quit match!

And let's not forget Triple H's run with the World Title!

Triple-H was an awesome heel. He is still the best heel "World Heavyweight Champion" of WWE's version of WHC. Every era had ridiculous storylines. Still RAW was getting ratings in 4s and 5s in 2002-2003 compared to now.
 
And and tell me how your 80s were better when most matches were either squashes or conisted of wrestlers that nobody cared about? The roster of 2002-03 was great (Kurt Angle,Eddie Guerrero,etc) compared to Red Rooster or Barry Horowitz or Rick Martel. You are just a "Golden era" Hogan mark.

I'll take the Hart Foundation vs. the Killer Bees from 1987 for 5 minutes over HHH in 2003 any day.
 

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