PWF Answers Wrestling Questions

[Hard Hit Prince]

Nope. The Wrestlewar match is more popular. It was even on HHH's DVD because it was his favorite match and that match inspired him to be a professional wrestler.

It isn't, nobody remembers Ric Flair getting the title back. Half the people remember that Steamboat won the title from Flair at Chi Town and don't remember Flair winning it back. Even if anything, Chi Town is more POPULAR because Steamboat got his first and only world championship. However both were 5 star matches and very inspirational, it's gotta go to personal tastes to chose the best.

Actually they do.
If no one is buying your shows, it's because they don't like the product. How hard is that to get?

It's a false statement! Just because people don't buy, it doesn't mean the product is bad. Like I pointed out, there is no way in the world I'll say that Avatar is the best movie of all time even though it made more money than any other movie. But lets wait for the TLC buyrate - the PPV was good and we'll see if that reflects in the buyrates.

If you guide yourself for popularity than you'll have a bad time.

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

There are different factors that could determine that in modern day terms - the recession, prominent streaming, and online purchasing which can and do affect those numbers in 2012. Ten years ago all of that stuff were non factors.

If rating and buy rates were going down from 1999 to 2002 then that's just it - they simply went down.

Not really has you can point that Austin and Rock leaving had to be a hit in the company. Also with the end of WCW, some people just stooped watching it and the market was into a bad shape, because you can't build a big face out of nowhere right? And ratings were bigger in the whole 2002-2003 than what they are now, so would I have to assume that those years were better than 2012? Because I don't really believe that!

 

[Con T.]

Well, I'll tell you what, it isn't going to drop noticeably by like 100,000 buys.


That's what a vast majority of 02-03 PPV did from 01.

Oh, and if you fuck up a meme on the internet, you're gonna have a bad time, you twit

 

[Con T.]

Also, just as an FYI you should probably stop clinging to the nuts of your
Movie/music argument. Justin Bieber and Queen attract different audiences, as does Avatar and whatever the hell else you compare. WWE PPVs are always attracting the same audience, looking to the same buyer, and have the same
Demographic, especially when they're for the same company.

And, 02-03 was a major dropoff of that audience

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

Ratings began to fall because WWE was shifting from casual viewers to the wrestling fans. Casual viewers kept WWE in business when WCW was beating them in ratings in 98-99 when WWF/WWE won the ratings war they started to shift their programming from casual viewers to wrestling fans. Also most WCW fans would have stopped watching after WCW/ECW Invasion angle ended.

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

Also, just as an FYI you should probably stop clinging to the nuts of your
Movie/music argument. Justin Bieber and Queen attract different audiences, as does Avatar and whatever the hell else you compare. WWE PPVs are always attracting the same audience, looking to the same buyer, and have the same
Demographic, especially when they're for the same company.

And, 02-03 was a major dropoff of that audience

Like I said The Rock and Austin left, so try to take Cena and CM Punk out and you'll see what would happen to the WWE! And my argument about music is and can be done, as well as the avatar argument, because it's the same thing. More people saw the Avatar then Shawnshack Redemption and they were both aiming at people WHO LIKED CINEMA!

 

[Con T.]

Like I said The Rock and Austin left, so try to take Cena and CM Punk out and you'll see what would happen to the WWE! And my argument about music is and can be done, as well as the avatar argument, because it's the same thing. More people saw the Avatar then Shawnshack Redemption and they were both aiming at people WHO LIKED CINEMA!

That's like saying WWE and football are the same thing because both fans like sports.

Or, if you're going to say wrestling isn't sport, that's like saying Rent fans are the same as wrestling fans, because they like entertainment.

Good show, chap

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

That's like saying WWE and football are the same thing because both fans like sports.

Or, if you're going to say wrestling isn't sport, that's like saying Rent fans are the same as wrestling fans, because they like entertainment.

Good show, chap

American wrestling isn't a sport, and the definition of sport proves that:
"Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively."

They are not competing to be the best damn wrestlers in the world, they are maybe competing to be the most popular guy on the roster and I can't believe that can be a sport. So yeah I can't put wrestling in the same class as any other real sport, and you have to think about it, every sport has that "Everything can happen feeling" in wrestling you have the feeling that Everything it's best for business will happen.. It's different, in other words there is no way Yoshi Tatsu is gonna beat The Big Show. However a second division soccer team can pretty much beat a worldwide known soccer team, it may be rare but it can happen and it happened for sure.

 

[Con T.]

Very well then.

Then see my Rent and wrestling analogy. Come back when you have a better excuse for being wrong

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

Very well then.

Then see my Rent and wrestling analogy. Come back when you have a better excuse for being wrong

When I'm wrong, I am wrong and I say it with no problem! But go ahead create another vote thread with the subject: "Do ratings and PPV buyrates mean quality?" with the options FUCK YES, YES and NO and lets see what does actually make sense in the mind of other people that can easily be a lot smarter than you. If you don't create a thread I will.

 

[Con T.]

When I'm wrong, I am wrong and I say it with no problem! But go ahead create another vote thread with the subject: "Do ratings and PPV buyrates mean quality?" with the options FUCK YES, YES and NO and lets see what does actually make sense in the mind of other people that can easily be a lot smarter than you. If you don't create a thread I will.

I can tell you what will happen;

You'll get wishy washy answers, and you're already slanting it to a way that you're going to find a way to be "right". And here's what I'm telling you.

1. Numbers were way down in 02-03, compared to 01.

2. The reason that is is because people were getting turned off from the product.


Something you've had yet to rebuttal against

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

WWE No Way out 2012 - 194,000 buys

TNA Slammiversary must have gotten a lot lower buys but that doesn't change the fact that TNA Slammiversary was way better than WWE No Way Out.

 

[Con T.]

WWE No Way out 2012 - 194,000 buys

TNA Slammiversary must have gotten a lot lower buys but that doesn't change the fact that TNA Slammiversary was way better than WWE No Way Out.

And once again, ProWrestlingFan in missing the point

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

I can tell you what will happen;

You'll get wishy washy answers, and you're already slanting it to a way that you're going to find a way to be "right". And here's what I'm telling you.

1. Numbers were way down in 02-03, compared to 01.

2. The reason that is is because people were getting turned off from the product.


Something you've had yet to rebuttal against

Are you expecting me to go against facts? Because I will not do that, I know what numbers mean and they don't mean quality. You on the other hand can't see the impact WCW had, probably because you never saw anything from that, and when WCW closed doors Wrestling had only one home and that was WWE so a lot of people just turned of the product, or can't you assume that WWE would get the double of their ratings if WCW fans started to follow WWE?

Another thing that you don't understand is that the most popular faces left, and I'm talking two of the bests ever in Steve Austin and The Rock. I gave you an example, imagine if Punk and Cena just left, do you believe that WWE would still maintain their ratings? However one can argue that the quality could improve if they paired up someone like Orton vs Daniel Bryan for the championship, however it would be the same thing, ratings down but good content.

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

And once again, ProWrestlingFan in missing the point

No. My point was that PPV buyrates being low does not mean the product is bad.

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

Wrestling at its finest :

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Though their match at Destination-X was great too.

 

[Coco]

I love that match.

Can you explain to me why you see it as wrestling at its finest?

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

Because they actually used mat wrestling,submissions and a variety of moves instead of the repetitive 4 or 5 moves.

 

[Mr. Book This Section]

What match would you rather have?

- Samoa Joe vs. Christian vs. CM Punk
- Samoa Joe vs. Austin Aires vs. Daniel Bryan
- Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan
- Samoa Joe vs. CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan vs. Austin Aires vs. Christian

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

Samoa Joe vs. Austin Aries vs. Daniel Bryan

 

[Con T.]

What did you think of tonight's Del Rio Cena match?

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

Nothing new.

 

[Con T.]

So did you enjoy it?

I forgot, if a match doesn't have something new it can't be good. That's why Taker/HHH is three and a half stars at best, right?

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

Their Wrestlemania 17 match was the best. The match at Wrestlemania 27 and 28 both were not as good as the first one.

 

[Con T.]

Somehow that answer isn't shocking.

Why so?