Goldberg got over with even less talent and started out as a jobber. DDP was nothing compared to Guerrero and he got over. David Arquette and Vince Russo both did very well for themselves in a very short time. Benoit won the world title. Eddie never came close. So the politics argument is crap. Eddie simply wasn't good enough.
Seriously? You want to go here? Seriously? Okay.....Any wrestling historian, anybody who worked in WCW will tell you that there was a load of backstage political bullshit in the company, which saw the older guys not want to give up their spots. There is also a proven track record of WCW putting over guys who didn't deserve it, over more Talented wrestlers. You already said the guys who got over, now lets look at the guys who they went over, and what happened once they left WCW.
Eddie Guerrero: Amazing In-ring talent, who was never given the chance to get on the mic and develop a personality. Left WCW and went to WWE. Got the chance to get on the mic, develop a personality, got over with the fans. Continued to have 4-5 star matches, and became a world champion.
Chris Benoit: Amazing In-Ring talent, who only won the world title in WCW once they learned that he was going to jump ship to WWE. Still jumped ship. Continued to have 4-5 star matches. Finally got a chance to get on the mic, got over with the fans, and became a world champion.
Rey Mysterio: Amazing In-Ring talent, never got the chance to get on the mic in WCW. Came to WWE, continued to have 4-5 star matches, became a World Champion.
Not convinced by those three, thats fine, I got more.
Chris Jericho: Amazing In-Ring Talent, was given the chance to get on the mic in WCW, but was then put in crap promo's and rivalries because he started to get over. Jumped ship to WWE. Was used right by WWE, given the chance to shine on his first day by interacting with the Rock. Became the first Undisputed Champion, continued to have 4-5 star matches, and is now considered one of the best ever.
Not convinced by him though of how badly WCW mis-managed great talent, and continued to push CRAP over them. Well, I got more.
"Stone Cold" Steve Austin: Told by Eric Bischoff that he would never be anything more than a Mid-Card Talent. Was fired over the phone by WCW. Went to WWE, and became the biggest superstar of the 90's, making more money than anyone in WWE history.
WCW was the biggest joke of an organization. If they had handled the great talent that they had on their doorstep correctly they would still be alive today, its that simple. WCW didn't push lesser guys over Eddie Guerrero because he was no good, they did it because WCW was moronic when it came to pushing great talent.
Koko B. Ware, John Studd, William Perry, Pete Rose. They're all members of the WWE HOF. I suppose they're on the same level as Hogan, Hart and Flair. The HOF is a JOKE.
Chris Benoit did all those things you said he did. He's not getting in. In other words, outside circumstances can change things, like Eddie's death got him in.
Your right, outside circumstances can change things:
Chris Beniot: On his way to the HOF, killed his entire family and himself, and will now no longer be in.
That is not what happened with Eddie though. Eddie was heading to the HOF before his death. Did his death speed up the process? Of course it did, but he would have been in the HOF regardless of whether he died or not.
No, it wasn't entertaining. It was filler and nothing more. Instead of a classic like the match at SS 03, this was nothing. It was 6 guys with nothing else going for them so they were thrown into a match no one cares about. And the impact a match has on a person's career has no bearing on it? Please. You're telling me Hogan vs. Andre or Austin vs. Hart is remembered for the matches rather than the aftermaths? Please.
I never said that the impact that a match had on a person's career has no bearing. Of course it can have bearing on a match. It can ADD to the match, and make a match that much better. The impact of a match can not DETRACT from the entertainment value of a match though. Let me say that again: Impact can only ADD to the entertainment value of a match, it can never DETRACT from it. So did the triple threat tag have an impact on the career's of those who participated? NO, but does that detract from the entertainment value of the match? NO! It was still an entertaining match, that did its job well. Maybe it was a filler match, but that does not mean that it wasn't an entertaining match.
The Gimmick Battle Royal was three minutes and a way to let the audience breathe a bit. Hogan vs. McMahon was 20 minutes plus and on the freaking poster. If you can't see the difference there, I can't help you.
I didn't. I had no desire to see two men in their 50s try to be young one more time and steal half an hour of the show from two other guys. Instead of this, Benoit could have fought Eddie. Doesn't that sound a bit better for 20 minutes? Vince vs. Hogan was watchable I guess on another show, but not on Mania and certainly not for that long of a match.
Two Things: First, The Gimmick Battle Royal lasted longer than 3 minutes, it was more like 15 with all the entrances for each guy. Again, that 15 minutes could have been used to get younger guys over. Secondly, The reason why Hogan vs McMahon was 20 minutes, and was on the poster for Mania was because the MAJORITY of fans wanted to see it. We are not talking about whether you or I wanted to see it. We are talking about what the MAJORITY of fans wanted, and what they wanted was Hogan vs McMahon. Now does not wanting to see a match make it any less good? No. There are plenty of matches that I never wanted to see to begin with, but then once I watched them, they turned out to be good-great matches. I put Hogan vs McMahon in this category. A match that a MAJORITY of fans wanted to see, but that had some detractors. There are some detractors who never saw the match because they never wanted to see it, some that watched it and then used their bias for never wanting to see it to say it sucked, and then some detractors who watched it, and appreciated the effort that Hogan and McMahon put into the match, and saw it as a great match. I think it is obvious which category you fall in.