Potential ECW Champions from Raw/Smackdown

[RoyHahn]

With Chavo, Kane, and now Big Show and Mark Henry, it seems that almost all ECW Champs are coming from other brands, namely SmackDown. I find this foolish, as it weakens the ECW title, but if it must go on, who do you think would be good choices to come over to ECW as champion? I know that the draft is coming up, but as of now, who would be good?

Raw:
HARDCORE HOLLY: This man would be perfect as ECW Champion. He is great at bringing up younger talent, is a solid wrestler, and fairly good at promos. Plus, he is "hardcore" so he would be perfect for the "extreme" brand.

Umaga: He'd be great here as the other two world titles wouldn't suit a man who can't speak English. Plus, he is a solid wrestler who could have great matches with most wrestlers, which would draw in viewers.

Jeff Hardy: I think that the ECW Championship is the next logical step for Jeff Hardy, before a run with either of the other world titles. His high-flying could set a trend in ECW which would help the brand as a whole.

SmackDown:
FINLAY: Like Hardcore Holly, Finlay would be a great ECW Champ, as he's great at helping younger talent and is a very good wrestler.

Rey Mysterio: Upon his return, Mysterio would make a great ECW champ. Like Jeff Hardy, he could help make ECW interesting by having high-flyer matches all the time. He also is a bit too small for either of the other world titles, so this one would suit him.


Your thoughts?

 

[Instant Classic]

Raw:
HARDCORE HOLLY: This man would be perfect as ECW Champion. He is great at bringing up younger talent, is a solid wrestler, and fairly good at promos. Plus, he is "hardcore" so he would be perfect for the "extreme" brand.

Hardcore Holly is crap, his matches are generic and boring and he doesn't tell a story. His mic work is awful, and nobody really cares about him. He is a lower card talent at best and was only brought back for the Rhodes stroyline.

Umaga: He'd be great here as the other two world titles wouldn't suit a man who can't speak English. Plus, he is a solid wrestler who could have great matches with most wrestlers, which would draw in viewers.

This is probably the most obvious choice, after the draft and may well happen. Umaga's style complements extreme rules perfectly, and his last man standing match with Cena, and his performence in the elimination chamber show how enertaining he can be in a hardcore enviroment. If Umaga was to become champ he could be used as a dominant force that they are trying to build Kane into but isn't quite working.

Jeff Hardy: I think that the ECW Championship is the next logical step for Jeff Hardy, before a run with either of the other world titles. His high-flying could set a trend in ECW which would help the brand as a whole.

It could work since Jeff is good with spots, but it is almost like a step backwards after reaching the upper middle-card on Raw. A smackdown feud with Edge might be a better way to go with him, though I don't think personally it would be good for Edge as champion. I do think it could be a good choice though because of Jeff's obvious popularity if they were to make him champion it could mean an increase in viewers to ECW. But I dont think WWE are serious about ECW anyway so it is unlikely.
SmackDown:

FINLAY: Like Hardcore Holly, Finlay would be a great ECW Champ, as he's great at helping younger talent and is a very good wrestler.

Another solid possibility though he is getting on a bit, and as much as I like him as a wrestler I don't think it would suit him being champion. And I don't think he would get much love from the fans.

Rey Mysterio: Upon his return, Mysterio would make a great ECW champ. Like Jeff Hardy, he could help make ECW interesting by having high-flyer matches all the time. He also is a bit too small for either of the other world titles, so this one would suit him.

I don't like Mysterio I really really think the guy is overated. The number of moves he botches, his poor mic skills, his declining in-ring ability and movement. He's obviously a fan favourite but his style doesn't suit ECW nor does his injury proness put him in line for a title oppotunity. Besides he is a lousy champion- rememebr him as World Heavyweight champion? didn't think so.

 

[healyz84]

I don't think Hardcore would work as a world champion. As is said he is generic and boring, and seems now in his career to only work best as a tag team specialist. Though being said, the name Hardcore does suit the ecw brand. However he is not championship material.

Umaga is probably the best of the bunch. He is the big, dominant force would work well in the extreme environment and a lengthy run as ecw champion would definitely help build up his career. While this would work, I more see Umaga moving over to Smackdown! But I do hope plans have changed and he is going to go to ecw.

Jeff Hardy is also a very good choice. By moving to ecw, it would allow him to capture a world title and build his credibility up majorly. But I just don't see wwe doing it. For Hardy, capturing the ecw title would be the equivalent of capturing the IC title. Hardy has already moved himself into the top level of Raw, there is no need for him to take a step back.

Finlay would also be a good choice just because of his fighting nature and, like Kane, I think he is one of the most deserving people to become a world champion. That being said I just don't see it, Finlay's age just works too much against him and I think he will remain on Smackdown.

Rey Mysterio, quite frankly, will never be moved off Smackdown for the simple reason that he draws in all the hispanic fans to the show, the largest percentage of fans who watch smackdown. Without him, the ratings will be hurt, which they seemingly already are.

Here is one of my alternative choices:

Carlito - if just for the simple fact that he needs to be pushed in some way. I think he would add a different dimension as champion of ecw. It would make him happy, being champion, and might make him motivated enough to move into that next level.

 

[incrediblesim]

Good thread idea!

There are a quite a few guys who on the other brands could be guys who get one title shot and lose it but would be credible ECW Champs. Its a long post so skip past if you're easily bored!

Finlay- He's well liked in within most sections of the fans. He'd add some more credibility to the Title as well as the Brand. I'd keep him face ECW has too many potentially brilliant heels (Shelton, Morrison, Burke and hell, I'd even argue Punk should be turned heel) that he could eventually put over.

How I'd get the belt on him- I'd switch the belt from Kane to Big Show at some point (NOC or any available ECW afterwards). Kane's reign had potential to be great but sadly WWE have slowly dropped the ball on it. Classic face vs. face firm handshake after the match up. Big Show grants Kane the re-match on an episode of ECW. Does the whole since he's my friend act and all that. Big Show wins- enter Mark Henry. He limbers his way to the ring Kane & Big Show look as though they will take care of this then Kane hits on the heel turn. Kane does a Big Show beat down and on the following ECW's beats up guys backstage a few referee bumps. The commentary team and the WWE in general sell the angle that Kane doesn't want pity and will do anything to anyone for his title. Teddy Long grants a Triple threat on PPV however he allows Big Show to pick a Special Referee to ensure the match is a fairly done. Big Show picks Finlay and after the Triple Threat (Big Show wins) says to Finlay he can have a shot for keeping it honest in the Triple Threat. Finlay pulls it out in a Belfast Brawl. It ends on good terms between the two of them and Big Show moves on to continue an angle with Kane.

 

[Shocky]

Jeff Hardy: I know someone mentioned that it would be a step backward, but Mr. Hardy pretty much screwed himself out of sniffing one of the two big belts for a few years at this point. And rightfully so, why push Jeff when you can't trust him to carry the ball without slipping up?

However, with ECW moving to the Raw tapings, this belt is almost ustom made for Jeff. It allows him to be the spot monkey he is in an appropriate setting. Not only that, but it allows for the ECW champion to easily be involved with angles on Raw to give the brand some more recognition (even though I am strongly against the innerbrand crap that goes on, but my opinion doesn't count).

 

[Mighty NorCal]

Jeff Hardy. Makes tons of sense, but will never happen.

Tons of sense: One of the most over guys in the company, a one standout star to carry the brand. He can do gimmicks, and spotty shit, and fit right in. Pretty much brings an instant boost to ECW.

Wont Happen: Becuase RAW's ratings are laborious. They will end the brand split, or make the other two shows utter minor leagues before they give up a major star. Especially one of the most over in the company. No fucking way.

 

[4realpeoples]

Jeff Hardy would do nice as ECW Champ and would have been in the original ECW too but a guy who is so close to being fired by the company wont get one of the top 3 belts in the company simply because his reign could end in mid push. Vince McMahon isnt that stupid to do that. somebody on Raw i wouldnt mind seeing as ECW Champ would be Charlie Haas. haha not but really maybe somebody like Chris Jericho could bring something to the title but i dont think that could ever happen either.

 

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[asanders93]

okay, now heres some DIFFERNT wrestlers I would like to see become champ.

TOMMY DREAMER- i know it might never happen again, but think about how many ECW faithful would come back to see this watered down verson of ECW if he was champ. if only for a day. I belive he should the cena of raw and taker of smackdown of ECW.

SHANNON MOORE- Come back as a heel and a cool new look. ditch the reject thing and work his way up to a main event level on ECW and maybe smackdown. some people are born jobbers, but the reject being a jobber should stop.

SHELDON B- In real life, he could out wrestle anyone. MOVING ON!!!

EDGE- to help with his heel thing hes got going on. after loseing the WHC, vicky could make a match for the ecw championship for him. also being the only man to win all 3 major titles in wwe.

CHARLIE HAAS - the guys going no where. make him real heel. the only guy in wwe you cant remamber his face after seeing him time after time.

SUPER CRAZY- Again, help to bring back major ECW fans. make him a major face.

AND FINALY, THE MIZ- hes great on the mic, getting so much better in the ring and involed with GREAT storylines. proally the most realalistic one to become champ. it almost makes me forget he was on realworld. great future. like the next HBK.

Rant all u like, tell me its never going to happen but chill. im just kinda tired of hearing the same pepole as champ like jeff and umaga. good chocies, just trying to mix things up is all SON!!!


-AGS123

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Some options:


Carlito - Would work better as IC/US champ, but he's got a shot, whereas with the two higher titles, he has ZERO chance...especially if he keeps mouthing off backstage as rumored.

Jeff Hardy - Everyone's said it all already. I'd rather see him as World Heavyweight Champion though.

JBL - This guy just sucks. Great on the mic, horrible in every single other realm. If the WWE is hell-bent on keeping this guy as a "legitimate challenger for a top title", throw him on ECW. I can't stand them wasting WWE or WHC title feuds on this sack of crap and I sure as hell don't ever want him to capture one of those belts.

Umaga - Possibility, but I think he suffers from "WWE Monster Syndrome". Your career is a short climb to the top and then a steady nosedive where you can't get back up. He needs to become a dominant force again instead of a glorified jobber.

Finlay - Another that would work better as IC/US champ, but could still be of some importance on ECW. They can't do it while he's carting around a little midget and playing pranks, though.

Mysterio - Another IC/US guy, but then again, isn't the ECW title just a tad above that anyway? Lol.

 

[FOTH 3:16]

MVP-He is a future star in the buissness and he needs something to get started.He has all the mic skills and charisma to succeed as champion.
Jeff Hardy-He is an amazing athlete and deserves something.I think he deserves a World Title but not right now.He is not mature enough for the REAL World Titles yet.Give him this title to start off.He can bring some of the extreme back to ECW.

 

[Monkey_Mania]

I agree that Jeff Hardy should become ECW champion. Hes got the tools. It would be the best way to see if he can utilize them all correctly before they put one of the big two straps on him. Let him hold onto it for awhile. It wouldnt hurt anything. ECW is already dead and buried. Jeff himself couldnt make it any worse, he could only help it.

I would've said Carlito but hes an ass. He doesnt deserve to hold anything but a jockstrap. MVP would be a good candidate to get himself over as a big time player. Also Mark Henry could get a run with it. Like I said about Hardy. It wouldnt hurt ECW.

 

[Danmen001]

Well there are some options here, let me see:

Mark Henry: I think he deserves a go at the title, I mean he works well for the WWE. Why not give him the title that doesn't really matter.

Big Show: He is getting it and NOC I reckon. Can't be bad for the title, if anything it will be good for it.

Finlay: I think that he could pull it off, either as a badass heell Or as a face with Horny.

Jeff Hardy: Even though I hope he does better than that, whihc I'm sure he will. ECW could be a decent starter for him if absolutely neccessary.

 

[Kane241]

How about Chuck Palumbo? When he debuted as a face, he was getting over pretty well. When they turned him heel, it was all downhill. Reason being, people want to cheer a guy on a motorcycle. When he revs it, people think it's cool. Why would they boo someone they think is cool?

They need to turn him face, build him up, and try him out as ECW Champion. This guy has world championship material. They need to use him properly. Turn him face, give him a diva to ride his bike with him and be his manager, and give him a chance.

Turning him heel was the worst thing they could have done.

 

[Kurt]

Umaga: He'd be great here as the other two world titles wouldn't suit a man who can't speak English. Plus, he is a solid wrestler who could have great matches with most wrestlers, which would draw in viewers.

Umaga would be the perfect fit for this,and last time I remember Kane having a good match was him vs. Umaga on Raw in a "Loser Leaves Brand Match." Umaga would bring in many old ECW fans,like myself, saying, "Man this guy is fucking sick."

 

[Ozzy33090]

Jeff Hardy, definitely. I'm not even a Hardy fan, but ECW is best suited for him. He's got horrible mic skills, but he is a fantastic spot monkey. He could bring credibility back to the ECW belt, and actually restore the "extreme" in Extreme Championship Wrestling.

The bottom line is that he's not ready, nor will he ever be ready to hold the Raw or Smackdown world title. Yes, he may be over with the fans, but I've got a feeling that if he had to be on the mic in excess, he may not be as over.

With Hardy as ECW champ, you could make every match with hardcore stipulations, whether its ladders, tables, chairs etc. It'd make matches very entertaining and actually have people looking forward to a match featuring the ECW title. Look at the crap we have now..Kane vs Big Show. I'm certain that not many people want to see that. It's about time ECW "seems" more like ECW. Obviously it will never be too much like the old ECW, but with Hardy there, he could bring back that "hardcore" feel that the ECW title needs. Guys like Kane, Big Show, Morrison, or even Punk with a limited moveset, do not bring that to the table.

 

[Adz]

I'll say Chris Jericho

In the past they've sent Kurt Angle and Chris Beniot to ECW, to give the brand some hype, experience, and develope up and coming talent and future champions.

By letting Jericho have the belt, I believe he can make the title worth something again. Plus teach and develope newcomers.

I'll also say Finlay for the same reason.

He use to train the women's division so he has teaching experience, and I think people will be interest to see the Irish man feud with some of the best new blood wrestlers.

 

[Sparky]

JBL, He is a worthy ME'er that could boost the credit of WWE and teach Mid carder's what they need to know to get to ME status. He is also a heel and there isnt Many Heels on ECW, and a good JBL vs Kane for the tittle would be entertaining.
Carlito, Carlito is a good wrestler but seem's to be stuck in the same place for the last three year's moving him To ECW for the title would be good for rating's, WWE and him.
Jeff Hardy, How could this not be a good idea, Hardy could Take the Title to place's it was when RVD was champion, if not further, Hardy is one of those people that get you moving watching him do what he does is entertaining he would be great as the ECW champion.

 

[Roody Poo]

RoyHahn,

That would be ROWDY if Hardcore Holly was ECW champ.

I also feel like it's about time they've turned Mark Henry into a credible wrestler. He's frequently in some high profile feuds (eg with Undertaker), and the announcers always talk about how big, strong, and scary Mark Henry is when in reality, he does absolutely nothing. I'm glad he's making his way up.

 

[Kane666]

I don't know if anyone's heard this but supposedly ECW tapings are not going to be moved to Monday nights.So we very well could see Jeff Hardy as ECW champ.You know damn well they'll never let him go over HHH for the WWE title.Plus it wouled be a great high flyer vs. monster match against Henry.And with Hardy as champ it can set up feuds against Umaga,Carlito,and even Miz and Morrison.

 

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

Tbh, ECW should have a few veterans to fued with the most over new talent and the opening matches should feature just the new guys. Former WHC champs should not be going to ECW, because these are the established names that creative have nothing better to do with, but at the same time, won't/can't release them. Mark Henry was an ok draft, as was Matt and Finlay. They were mid card guys who haven't really lost/gained anything by being in the ME tier of ECW. Guys like Kane and Big Show would, and in Kane's case did, lose credibility i think. When Big Show was champ they had a lot more high profile talent, and most weeks he was fighting ME talent from other brands anyway so again, he didn't really lose anything and gained a little by being a champ.
My ECW would look something like this, i won't book it properly but these are the kind of matches i'd have on a weekly basis:

Match 1: Ricky Ortiz v Bam Neeley

Morrison/Miz segment

Match 2: Evan Bourne v Kevin Thorn (is he still under contract with them?)

T'lo segment announcing ME

Match 3: Finlay v Knox (Extreme Rules)

Mark Henry/Atlas segment

Match 4: Dreamer v Miz

Main Event: Henry w/ Atlas vs Matt vs Morrison

Personally, i feel the ROH guys shud start in ECW like Punk did. Colt Cabana should NOT have jobbed to Kendrick this week, but instead should have debuted on ECW against someone like Knox or Miz. The new talent drive is the best initiative WWE have going imo and i wish they'd do more of it on SD and Raw like they have with Dibiase and Rhodes (hard to think that after 3 months Dibiase has main evented Raw 4 weeks in a row, Rhodes has been around a while longer, but he's still shot up remarkably quickly).

Anyway, my point is, i don't think established main eventers should move to ECW, but that wouldn't really be fair in terms of the draft imo (just look at how it turned out for them anyway, having their roster stripped and given enough to hold them together, which they've done a great job with by the way)

 

[Tim]

I agree and think that Jeff Hardy would be perfect for the ECW championship.
He excels in gimmick matches and he's a good entretainer and IMO a good wrestler. His style is what ECW is supposed to be about; high risk. But since he might have a broken neck, this might not be able to happen.
Another person that would be good for the ECW championship would be Big Show. He did a good job of carrying the brand and the title last time, so why can't he do it again? He's a good wrestler and he is agile for his size.

 

[My$terio_Fan]

Someone who I think if built right could be a good ECW champ is....Jamie Noble. Yes I know what people are saying 1. He's not what ECW is supposed to be about(except the "new" ECW is about building up newer guys and who better to help them then a solid worker). 2. Noble is nothing but a clumsy, hick, comedy character(and thats why I said "built" right. Noble has proven to be good in the ring and on the mic. He has good charisma and I believe if the comedy thing was cut and he was built up properly who could be taken seriously). Noble has everything it takes(except size) but if Mysterio can hold the heavyweight belt than I think Noble could do the same with the ECW belt.

 

[DJ]

In My Honest opinon Umaga is the best choice.Lets look-Hes too cartoony for the other two belts and has the correct overness and ring pressnce to be successful champion.Armando is not doing anything these days is he?

Another option could be The Return of The Big Show.In the best fitness of his life Show could continue on from his underated reign in 2006.The man could have some great "Little man vs Giant" match ups with the likes of Morrison,Miz and Hardy.Hell Finlay could even work.

Now my final choice is going to be Jeff Hardy.Now this is a dream storyline-Matt fails in his quest to become champ when Henry injures him(kayfabe).Jeff comes over to fight for Matts honour and ends up winning the title.Then Jeff thinks Matt will be happpy-Not.Matt returns darker than ever and begins to attack poor Jeff starting off a massive(and over!) feud.Jeff also fits the ECW Style and audience.Jeff 4 teh Dub!

 

[Showtime]

I think that Kennedy, providing he's ever able to stay off the x-ray table, would be an excellent ECW champion. Look, I think his run on Raw was going well there when he made the face turn. He reminded me of Austin back when he and Mcmahon started feuding. Kennedy was arogent, cocky and the fans loved it. His finish could be used anytime and done to anyone, much like Austin, and he was feuding with a man in power, William Regal. if William Regal hadn't fucked up and got suspended (Man Kennedy really can't catch anybreaks, when it's not him, it's someine else), their feud would've gone way longer and the comparisons to Austin/Mcmahon and Kennedy/regal would've begun. So, put the ECW title on him, hand him a mic and he'll run with it. He might be the only one outside of an already mainevent talent who could make the title look serious and get people really talking about ECW. Right now ECW may be at thebest it's gonna get, all it needs is the right champion. Kennedy may be that on outside of ECW that could do it... maybe.