Possible T.N.A. Talent to the W.W.E.

[The Mark of Zur-En-Arrh]

Well by now you must have seen the bulletin about the talent that may or may not be renewing their TNA contracts in April/May of next year. Out of the list of names that's come up, i could only imagine Robert Roode being made an offer by WWE with them actually wanting to make a go of using him properly.

Do you think that WWE would use him to his full potential like their apparently doing with R-Truth, or will they have him job on Smackdown for ages like Colt Cabana/Scotty Goldman has done so far, or do you think that the 'WWE style' will make him look like another Chris Harris, and then when he doesn't get over with WWE fans they'll kick him to the curb within weeks?

Another issue for debate is, after seeing how Chris Harris' run with them turned out, and how guys like Cabana are being used at the moment, would he even want to go for WWE, or would he be content to stick with the more easy-going TNA, taking advantage of their schedules in exchange for the World wide exposure and larger pay check (should he gt over), or do you think he'd naturally assume that he's just as valuable as guys like R-Truth and CM Punk and go blindly into a contract with them?

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I think this thread would be better served to speak about ALL of the talent that could be looking for different lines of work come next year.

Here are a few more TNA stars whose contract are up by then too:

Alex Shelly
Chris Sabin
Sonjay Dutt

While Robert Roode is arguably the biggest name out of the four, if both Gunns opt to not resign, I'm sure the W.W.E. would love picking them up as a tag team. It'd add depth to their depleted division and also add a touch of high-flying, which is what they seem to be trying right now. Dutt will likely resign, because his feud with Jay Lethal probably won't be over by then.

So, let's break down the main target in that group, and what your thread is centering around.

Robert Roode: This guy has all the talent in the world to be not just a great mid-card level Champion, an Intercontinental, United States, or even E.C.W. Heavyweight Champion. He's also capable of being a Tag Team Champion with practically anyone he's paired with. (If he can make A-1 look remotely interesting, I'm sure he's pure gold)

The thing is, outside of a Tag Team that's being built only to lose in T.N.A. right now, I can't see them pushing Roode as a Main Eventer. The only trouble with that is I doubt, outside of the E.C.W. brand, I can't see W.W.E. instantly doing it either.

The difference between Roode and Killings is, in W.W.E.'s mind.. they made Ron Killings, and T.N.A. just marketed more time in him than they wanted to. Which is likely why he's getting a push that other former T.N.A. stars haven't.

If Roode jumps to the W.W.E., he would be best served in keeping his current gimmick and possibly being brought in by Ted DiBiase or even J.B.L. The only issue there is, that gimmick was used better and will never be replaced BY Ted DiBiase.. and even he never won a Heavyweight title. (legit.)

I would love to see Roode in W.W.E., but my guess is T.N.A. will attempt giving him a small enough push to make him think he's better off staying there.

 

[Manjmonkey]

Roode has the skills he is a good wrestler and is getting even better on the mic but i think that after watching what the wwe has done with wrestlers they didnt create he'd be intimidated and would opt to stay with tna. If he were to go though he would be a great upper mid card addition to any of the three brands ecw raw or sd

 

[Darkshot77]

I will get to Roode in a second, but I want to discuss slightly the Guns. Now Shelly and Sabin are legit best friends. If the WWE offers them a hefty sum of money to jump ship they need to take a tip form 2 of their ROH brethen, Paul London and Brian Kendrick, in fact they couls take a tip form countless other WWE tag teams. One thing will happen if you get over with a crowd as a tag team, in a year or two you will be spit up. And then either one or both members of the team will be left out to dry. As far as I know Matt and Jeff, and Edge and Christan, are the only teams that were split up where both had a succesful singles carrere. Somone correct if I'm wrong. Now on to Roode.

Roode has what it takes to be moderately succesful in the WWE. Will he be main event, not but the tag team division, and mid card champ, yes. Heck they could remake Beer Money with Lance Cade, although Storm > Cade. Roode has the potental...will he resign with TNA I'm gonna say yes, they have managed to keep everyone else so far. Eccept Gail Kim.

 

[TheRealLionheart089]

Robert Roode:

He just needs weeks of hype/promos like R-Truth, or to make some type of impactful debut. He's got decent mic skills, he can make you hate his character, has a good look, and most importantly has great wrestling skills which mirror Mr. Perfect Curt Henning at times.
Also he's pretty over in TNA, like R-Truth was. Chris Harris/Braden Walker wasnt nearly as over as Robert Roode is now, so I think Roode will be used better if he jumped ship.
And he wont even need a name change since his real name is Robert Roode.


Sabin and Shelley:

These guys are simply amazing as a tag team, and they both could help out the tag division on RAW or Smackdown alot. All they need is some type of hype like R-Truth did, so they can be 'over.'


Sonjay Dutt:

I guess he ok, he doesnt suck, but I dont think hes the 'future of the business' or anything either. He'll need some type of hype/promo time as well in order to get over or else people will just see him as random jobber #3544236.



They could all debut how the Radicalz did...4 underused TNA guys coming to WWE to make an 'impact.' They interfere in a match (involving superstars people actually care about like the Hardys or someone like that). The main focus should be Robert Roode as the leader/'future of the WWE', Sabin and Shelley as the tag team, and Sonjay Dutt as the midcarder.

 

[Hailey Rose]

I'd have to agree with everyone and say that Robert Roode would definitely be someone I can see making the successful jump from TNA to WWE once his contract expires. He's over, he's a tremendous wrestler and is great on the microphone. With the right push, I think he could potentially be just as over in the WWE as he is in TNA.

 

[aznfalyfe]

i think Harris got the boot because he wasnt really that guy. he wasnt that known. i think it would be better if both sabin and shelly go to wwe they can rebuild the bucket of shit known as the Tag Team Division. i think that they would do well but then after awhile theyd just be new meat for show or koslov

 

[AFC1986]

I would love to see all 3 in the WWE as Sabin and Shelly are a fantastic tag-team and the tag-team division in the WWE really needs shaking up. Roode impresses me as he is good on the mic, is very talented inside the ring and he oozes charisma. However, all 3 need to be wary that if they do join the WWE, they could end up being used completely wrong as I think CM Punk is the only wrestler to have made a name for himself with another company who is being used right. Look what happened to Chris Harris. Because he had reasonable success in TNA, he had a black mark on his career when he signed for TNA, so Roode, Sabin and Shelley need to think which company will help them the most

 

[jpfizzle]

I would love to see all 3 in the WWE as Sabin and Shelly are a fantastic tag-team and the tag-team division in the WWE really needs shaking up. Roode impresses me as he is good on the mic, is very talented inside the ring and he oozes charisma. However, all 3 need to be wary that if they do join the WWE, they could end up being used completely wrong as I think CM Punk is the only wrestler to have made a name for himself with another company who is being used right. Look what happened to Chris Harris. Because he had reasonable success in TNA, he had a black mark on his career when he signed for TNA, so Roode, Sabin and Shelley need to think which company will help them the most

He's right. If you are a fan of any of these you really don't want to see them in the WWE. The Motor City Machine Guns would get jobbed out hardcore to guys like Team Priceless, Miz and Morrison and even Cryme Time. That doesn't mean that there less talented but it's in the WWE's best intrest to make them look weak when you think about it. A team that made a real name for themselves in another company comes to WWE and couldn't thrive. It just gives them the rights to say "well none of our current tag teams had any problems here..."

Roode on the other hand could possibly come in and further his career and build a real legacy, I hope what he has that Chris Harris unfortunately didn't is adaptability. Arguably the greatest gift you can have in wrestling.

Overall though succesful talents from other companies rarely ever do well in the WWE, Rob Van Damn and Booker T are the two exceptions that spring to mind, but look at Goldberg and Scott Steiner, they just jobbed to Triple H for their stints in WWE after WCW was bought out. Even the N.W.O with the exception of Hogan were made to look like tosh, that's because Hogan, no matter how big a heel he was in WCW will always be remembered as the man who made WWF/ E.

 

[king5000]

I can't see Robert Roode doing that well in the WWE. His gimmick could be seen has a rip off of JBL's gimmick and since Vince likes JBL for some reason I can't see Robert making it.

MCMM would just fail badly because of the way the WWE used London and Kendrick.

 

[young eazy]

I think Robert Rude is a great talent and if he does go to wwe if used right he could be something big he has the skillz and charisma and he is very over in TNA but really at the end of the day the creative of WWE will drop the ball on this guy. as for MCMG they should stay in TNA, WWE doesnt focus on taG teams they care more about the singles competition they would be used terrible

 

[jpfizzle]

I can't see Robert Roode doing that well in the WWE. His gimmick could be seen has a rip off of JBL's gimmick and since Vince likes JBL for some reason I can't see Robert making it.

MCMM would just fail badly because of the way the WWE used London and Kendrick.

If Robert Roode ever came to the WWE it would be highly unlikely they would use his TNA gimmick. Look at guys like Chris Harris, he was repackaged into Braden Walker and Ron Killing became R-Truth.

Robert Roode will come into WWE and most likely keep his name only. Even then it wouldn't suprise me if they tweaked the first part of it to Bobby, ridiculous perharps, but he will be repackaged in some way.

He has a degree of talent in the ring and charisma so wether he survives or not will be how well he evolves and develops in a new role.

I could see Robert Roode similar to Ted Dibiase Jr. A young upstart who feels that his legacy buys him a ticket into the main event.

 

[ChrisJerichoFanYTWOJAY]

Roode i think could do well in the wwe. I have a little problem with what a few people are saying. To everyone saying that Roode could come in and claim he deserves to be there because of his last name. Robert Roode is not related to Rick Rude (Rood). They could try and repackage him as Robert Rude and try and pass him off as a family member but that probably would not go very far. I would like to see Roode come in and start a little feud with JBL. Because there characters are similar it could have the possibility of turning out decent.

For the MCMG i would like to see them jump the railing at an event and attack team priceless or Hawkins and Ryder. But only to be subdued by security. Have the wwe hold back the annoucing of the MCMG contract signing. Let it seem like they are truly invading. That would be interesting.

And does anyone think Christian would go back to the wwe? I would like to see him come back i think he could do better now.

 

[DarkRaider]

I would like to see Abyss come to the WWE....Taker is getting up there and he is tailor made to step into that type of gimmick.

I have always viewed his as a cross of Taker and Mankind.

He could be something brought from Hell by Taker to take his place or something like that.

 

[Harthan]

I'd be a little afraid of what would happen to the MMG in WWE. WWE seems to be of the general mind lately that tag teams are tools to make people into singles stars. Brian Kendrick is a great example of this. He was a well known tag team wrestler, got drafted, and now he's a hotshot on Smackdown. Unfortunately for him it seems like there's not going to be a huge oppurtunity for him soon, what with R-Truth looking to get the US Title, but ah well.

Anyway, back to the MMG. They're a great tag team. It's pretty hard to deny. They have great ring work, great charisma, they're well over with the fans...and they'd fit very well feuding with Miz and Morrison and Priceless. I could totally see them in 8-Man Tags with Cryme Tyme as their partners (or maybe even a feud...I don't know, some sort of Detroit vs New York thing). But, I'm generally afraid of what's going to happen to them. WWE likes to split up teams, and usually, one or both of the wrestlers get the raw deal. Example, Kendrick's an upper midcarder on Smackdown (I think he's waiting for Kennedy to return, myself) and London's last appearance was getting yelled at by Jericho. Or Deuce and Domino, the latter of whom was released before debuting as a singles wrestler, and the former of whom has had one match, where he jobbed to Santino. Oh boy. They were tag team champs, folks. I don't want that to happen to the Guns, and frankly, I'm more excited about their tweener role on TNA and what exactly they're going to do in the massive feud there.

Robert Roode would be fantastic in the WWE. He's a perfect IC, US, or ECW champ; an accomplished midcarder with good charisma and ring work. What more can you ask out of an IC, etc., champ? Roode main eventing ECW against Matt Hardy, Evan Bourne, or Finlay would be just great. On Smackdown against Benjamin or Kendrick. On Raw against Santino, and...the other midcard heels. Surely there's some...moving on. Roode would make a great midcarder, and I think he has potential to step it up (over time) to world champ.

Sonjay Dutt...umm. I guess? I wouldn't really care either way. I'm not terribly excited about his feud with Lethal, and I'm a little freaked out by his promos with Val. I think the whole thing is just a sad attempt at ripping off Matt Hardy/Edge/Lita, and it's not working. Really, you can't replicate that kind of feud because it was more than half shoot anyway. I guess if Dutt came to WWE it wouldn't be terrible, but I just don't see him doing anything special. If they could throw him together with a partner, he could probably tag with someone...maybe the Miz? If Morrison goes on to wrestle singles, then Miz and Dutt could be a good team...albeit with a terrible name.

Gail Kim is really something I could care less about. She's good enough, I guess, but since we lost Trish and Lita, WWE women's wrestling hasn't been the same. I'm sure Gail would make a fine women's champ (actually, if she were coming, I'd prefer her on Smackdown as I think she'd match up better with Michelle, Victoria, and Natalya) but I don't see her bringing back what we lost with Trish and Lita.

I don't care for Abyss myself. I've never liked him. He's just a rip off of Mankind, and he's not half as good. He's an insult to Mick Foley. He's not an homage. Black Machismo is an homage. Abyss is like a sad combination of Mankind and Cactus Jack.

From what I hear, Chris Harris was a jerk backstage and liked to brag about how great he was in TNA. I saw his shoot promo, and he came across like an arrogant jackass. Sorry, but that's how I feel. Maybe he'd do well in TNA. The only thing good he did was give wrestling a fans a joke that will last for the ages...Braden Walker. The guy who talked to Matt Hardy. The guy who stood on the ramp with his hands on his hips. Ah, the memories.

It's a shame Team 3D decided not to go the WWE. They could have made tag team wrestling something important again.

 

[TheGreatSPAMbino]

Robert Roode will never be main event level, but he doesnt really have to be. He's decnt for the role of a midcarder, he could win the IC or US belt a couple of times then job for the rest of his career after his main run is over. In terms of a gimmick for Robert Roode you could take his rich elitest snob gimmick and mix it with a rick rude/val venis type gimmick so now you've got a rich ladies man who is a greasy sex machine,he wheels all of the divas becuz he has the cash and the moves. Genious.
They could bring in the Motor City Machine Guns to becuz they desperately need tag teams. Also, alex shelley could be a cool singles guy if he played the over the top cocky heel role who always cheats to win (Y2J late 2001-2002 type character).

 

[My$terio_Fan]

There are a few "Home grown" TNA talents that I think could do decently well in the WWE. Somoa Joe, could be a good upper midcard(Umaga type) and be a great IC Champ. The IWC has seemed to turn its back on Joe and hate on him but they did the same with Umaga for a while. I think Joe could be useful in the WWE. Also LAX could help the WWE's tag team division's, but I could see them broken iup within a year or so, and then Hernandez would probabably get a decent push. Also I am almost positve Abyss would get some kind of "monster" push. Vince loves the big guys and I think Abyss is a good enough worker and a willing person who Vince would push to the moon. For the Women's Division, I think the Beautiful People could do well since they are beautiful and have some in ring ability.

 

[KillBill]

I think with the ratings being lower, Mcmahon may not be quick to bury guys. I think MCMG would have a decent shot to be successful. With small guys like Punk and Kendrick getting pushes, as well as former TNA talent(R-Truth), I think as long as these guys have great attitudes, they will get a chance to come aboard. And if we keep getting these smaller guys, maybe we will see the cruiserweight title return.

 

[ExtremeSwagga93]

I don't know if I'd like to see The Guns in WWE. Sure they're an awesome team and are jobbing in their current company, but WWE would push them in the tag team division and eventually split them up.

As for Rhoode, I could see them using Rhoode really good, they'll use him better than TNA is right now.