Paul Heyman and JR need to get a LIFE!

[golden miz]

How many others are sick and tired of hearing about what these guys put in there blogs. Heyman especially since he's out of the limelite yet he has to put petty bullcrap in his blog and slurs against the industry thats actually harming it. Sure most people in the industry when they blog they do it with some respect for the wrestling comunity. I'm almost certain that Heyman wants vince to close down but thats another story. He brakes the rules of kabeface in his blog to an extent that I never seen anyone else do and he keeps putting out more hatefull entries at a steady pace. Honestly he needs to stfu because hes hurting the industry and shouldn't be in published media as well. His contempt for honor really pisses me off, i think he tries to destroy wwe in the pettiest way, and he's tarnished his legacy as the founder of the origional ECW. As for JR, come on his blogs are the biggest f*****g joke ever and he needs to stfu. It demeans peoples educations, its so overtly fake that its sicking. His so called spoilers are the worst form of advertisment that I've ever seen. When he talks seiously about past superstars he does it with a huge bias that consists of the (stone cold rocks and is the greatest ever (friend) and all of his enemies he writes about as if there loosers who never did anything for the industry even if they did.) I'm so sick of seeing his blog come up on wrestling news because its defently not legit. He blogs almost every f***ing day about nothing and if anything his stupidty with this blog is undermining his legacy as a great in this industry. These blogs and interviews need to stop because it hurts the industry (especially wwe) and is outright disgusting and pitifull in there own way. How many others agree with me in the sense that both of these guys spew the biggest load of bullcrap ever online and need to get a life.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

first off your spelling is horrible

How many others are sick and tired of hearing about what these guys put in there blogs. Heyman especially since he's out of the limelite yet he has to put petty bullcrap in his blog and slurs against the industry thats actually harming it.

You do realize the purpose of a blog is to say what you actually think right?

I just read Heyman's last blog and I have to say I enjoyed it.

Sure most people in the industry when they blog they do it with some respect for the wrestling comunity.

outside of ECW the wrestling business hasn't really treated Paul E with much respect he has every reason not to like it.

I'm almost certain that Heyman wants vince to close down but thats another story.

Yes it is another story and it will probably be as bad as this one

He brakes the rules of kabeface in his blog to an extent that I never seen anyone else do and he keeps putting out more hatefull entries at a steady pace.

Who cares if he's breaking Kayfabe? It'sa blog for Gods sake

Honestly he needs to stfu because hes hurting the industry and shouldn't be in published media as well.

You need to STFU. Really you're probably the only one who cares this much

His contempt for honor really pisses me off, i think he tries to destroy wwe in the pettiest way

Nothing Paul heyman can ever do will destroy WWE and I'm sure he knows this

and he's tarnished his legacy as the founder of the origional ECW.

Nothing Heyman can do will make people forget what he did with the real ECW

As for JR, come on his blogs are the biggest f*****g joke ever and he needs to stfu. It demeans peoples educations, its so overtly fake that its sicking. His so called spoilers are the worst form of advertisment that I've ever seen.

Who gives a shit that he's advertising for WWE he works for them so of course he's gonna try to get people to tune in.

When he talks seiously about past superstars he does it with a huge bias that consists of the (stone cold rocks and is the greatest ever (friend) and all of his enemies he writes about as if there loosers who never did anything for the industry even if they did.)

Who cares if he's friends with Austin he is one of the greatest and everyone knows it. It's not like Austin sucked and everyone kows it but JR is trying to shvoe him down our throats

I'm so sick of seeing his blog come up on wrestling news because its defently not legit. He blogs almost every f***ing day about nothing and if anything his stupidty with this blog is undermining his legacy as a great in this industry.

Dude he's doing it because he likes it. It's on his own website for God sake it's not like it posted front and center on wwe.com

These blogs and interviews need to stop because it hurts the industry (especially wwe) and is outright disgusting and pitifull in there own way.

I disagree I think they provide an insight to the business from people who have been in it they're entire adult life

How many others agree with me in the sense that both of these guys spew the biggest load of bullcrap ever online and need to get a life.

Hopefully no one agrees with you because this the biggest load of BS ever online.

Really dude if you don't like them don't read them it's that simple.

 

[falconsault]

Are you mental? I'm not taking a stab at you, but really? Kayfabe has supposedly been dead for a long time man. That's why we get to hear about all the surgery that wrestlers have anymore, as well as the fact that having wrestling news sites has "killed" kayfabe in it's own right by, you guessed it giving away spoilers to what's happening in the world of professional wrestling. Paul E. isn't hurting the industry by breaking kayfabe, he believes that there is no kayfabe anymore, and for the most part, he's 100% right.

So he has some stories that he wants to tell, good for him, I'll read a good story when I see one and Paul E. can tell a story. But most rational people know that like everything there is a second side to every story, sometimes there are nine or ten sides to a story. Paul E. is just telling his side and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I don't feel that his legacy of being the founder of ECW is tarnished because of it. Hell if anything tarnishes that legacy it's the fact that the man can't balance a check book causing ECW to fold and crumble.

As for JR's blog, I don't recall ever reading where he tears down people that were his enemies. Perhaps I missed the blog that he did where he threw dirt and hate in every which direction, because JR's had a lot of enemies thanks to his friendship with Stone Cold... Stone Cold... Stone Cold. So he talks about his friends being the greatest, and funny thing is, a lot of people agree with him. So what's the problem with just speaking the utter truth? Because I mean without Stone Cold and The Rock, some others, but these are the one's you mentioned, JR might be out of a job, or working for WCW and I don't think JR would want to do that again.

And gee, I wonder why he doesn't post actual spoilers in his blogs? Could it be, because there are a million other websites on the internet that are more than willing to post unfounded rumors and spoilers just to draw in hits and ruin the surprise that goes along with suspended belief that is professional wrestling? Or how about the fact that Vince would fire anyone on the spot for leaking REAL information about the storylines that WWE is about to pull off? I don't know about you, but it sure makes me wonder. Man, if that were the case, why doesn't he just take up a job on say the main site here and school Nick and all those horrible news posters that post on the main site? Ah yes, that's because JR LIKES his job and doesn't want to actually jeopardize it.

As far as JR undermining his legacy with his blogs? Come on man, let's be serious here for a moment, just a tiny moment. JR's blogs could only undermine his legacy if he were to bash every since fan out there, the entire industry and end it all with a great big huge FUCK YOU ALL, at least that's what I'd see him having to do. That or going out the Benoit way.

Also, these two spew the biggest loads of crap ever on the net? Are you being for real man? If that's what you think, then you've obviously not surfed around on YouTube and read the comments to some of the videos, just saying man.

 

[Total Impact]

You hate Heymen because he breaks kayfabe, or being onest, yet you hate JR for being fake. Thats ******ed.

I like Heymen's blog as Heymen actually knows how to writre a wrestling show, the only problem he has is that he can't run a wrestling company. He was nota good money man. I like his blogs as they make sense and tell te truth about what is right and wrong for the business.

As for JR, what do you expect, he is a company man. I see no problem with his blog as they are a fun read. I mean you are on wrestling site that post spoilers and news everyday, yet why not rip this site for spoiling wrestling and breaking kayfabe. Or get made at poster for coming to site and complaining about the WWE because we are hurting the product.

 

[JBowling]

its kind of hypocrical of you to write that when your bashing someone else about giving an opinion. If they cant do it, why should you be allowed to?

Im Just Saying

 

[Hacksaw Highway]

Not to mention Heyman gets paid to write his blog, does he not? I don`t know how exactly doing you job indicates you have no life, but I guess it somehow does.

 

[davy190260]

i didnt even read your full post but thought i had to reply after i quickly scanned the first few lines. im actually sick of losers like you coming on here and bashing respected wrestling alumni for having the audacity to speak their minds. they talk more sense than people like you could ever do and i for one am always interested to read what they have to say as they are more than entitled to their opinions wether i agree with them or not. and as for heymans recent blog, i found it to be very interesting and maybe instead of you bitching about these legends you could try to understand and appreciate what they are saying you moron. i apologise to milenko for the following bit of copyright theft but

"Hopefully no one agrees with you because this the biggest load of BS ever online"

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

How many others are sick and tired of hearing about what these guys put in there blogs.

Not me. Quite frankly, I am generally intrigued by reading the blogs of those that either do or have worked in the business to get an insider's perspective on how the business operates. Did you ever think that maybe those blogs are for people who do enjoy reading them?

Heyman especially since he's out of the limelite yet he has to put petty bullcrap in his blog and slurs against the industry thats actually harming it.

Oh, for crying out loud. Give me a Fucking break. I see we have another Vince mark coming to the rescue of poor old Vince McMahon, who is under attack from that big ol' Meanie, Paul Heyman.

Blind loyalist smarks such as yourself is what is wrong with the business today. People that do not want others to express their opinions, because they have to have this feel that they are "protecting the business" on behalf of Vince McMahon. Whatever floats your boat, I suppose.

What is "good" is subjective. In your eyes, you feel you are doing the right thing. In my eyes, I am doing the right thing, by attacking Vince on very credible critiques that I see numerous other people, besides myself, complaining about. And yes, when we give those critiques, and just speaking for myself, I do view it as for the good of the business, to determine what needs to transpire to bring the enjoyment back to the product that the fanbase once had.

But, anyway, let me allow you to get back to defending your idol.

Sure most people in the industry when they blog they do it with some respect for the wrestling comunity. I'm almost certain that Heyman wants vince to close down but thats another story. He brakes the rules of kabefabe in his blog to an extent that I never seen anyone else do and he keeps putting out more hatefull entries at a steady pace.

There is no such thing as "kayfabe" or "protecting the business" anymore. I support Heyman 100% in what he does, which isn't even that bad to begin with. What you are doing is essentially making a mountain out of a molehill because, Heaven Forbid, someone actually criticized poor little Vince McMahon. Maybe Vince McMahon deserves criticism and spite? Ever think of it that way? Vince is the one that turned his back on the fans that made him a Billionaire, and sold them out, in favor of Advertising Revenue. If anyone feels betrayed, it is people like me, who have attended literally hundreds of events of his over the years, and purchased virtually every PPV since 1990.

The more people that get on Vince's case for the utterly horrendous direction he is taking this product, the better. And I say that with the good of the business, AND my own personal enjoyment of the product, in mind. Not simply because I want to attack your idol. I don't have anything against Vince on a personal level, but in what I have seen him do to this product over the past couple years, I think he is doing very serious, long-term damage to the product. I'm just glad that people like Paul Heyman, call him out on it.

And I am going to leave it at that, as even replying to this post made me angry. I literally wanted to throw something at my monitor reading that post.

Put it this way, you make the "WWE Universe" proud.

Honestly he needs to stfu because hes hurting the industry and shouldn't be in published media as well. His contempt for honor really pisses me off, i think he tries to destroy wwe in the pettiest way, and he's tarnished his legacy as the founder of the origional ECW. As for JR, come on his blogs are the biggest f*****g joke ever and he needs to stfu. It demeans peoples educations, its so overtly fake that its sicking. His so called spoilers are the worst form of advertisment that I've ever seen. When he talks seiously about past superstars he does it with a huge bias that consists of the (stone cold rocks and is the greatest ever (friend) and all of his enemies he writes about as if there loosers who never did anything for the industry even if they did.) I'm so sick of seeing his blog come up on wrestling news because its defently not legit. He blogs almost every f***ing day about nothing and if anything his stupidty with this blog is undermining his legacy as a great in this industry. These blogs and interviews need to stop because it hurts the industry (especially wwe) and is outright disgusting and pitifull in there own way. How many others agree with me in the sense that both of these guys spew the biggest load of bullcrap ever online and need to get a life.

 

[golden miz]

well to the last few coments totaly disagree kabeface has been dead in the sence of injuries and wrestling be scripted but in the sence that hes revealing specific backstage happenings of the past and other secrets of the industry is wrong. Enough secretes have been already revealed it only ruins the industry. As with the respect for wrestling alumnis I have allot and give respect when the deserve it. I think once a wrestler/manager leaves the industry, they have no place to try to hog the limelite looking for additional 15 mins of fame, its quite sad. I see heyman and jr as too seperate evils one overdoes it the other posts biased posts that I'm sick of. I don't even read these guys stuff anymore I just read the headlines. If its intresting I will check out the synopsis in the news section which usually is a mistake. This is not a person thread against any current or former wwe employee (even though ihave personal problems with one of these men) it's an opinion saying that all these industry men should stop blogging because its just too much they stragically put themselves in the headlines almost all the time and it seems a little to rediclious that they do this because they are ledgends in there own right. They don't need to do this at all. Just all opinions based on my sickness of seeing these guys grasp on straws and put themselves in the spotlight way too much. I do love these guys and would be intrested if they do a blog/interview at the mst once a week but just personally these guys over do it.

I'm not a vince mark in the sence of creative as of late. But I am a huge fan of his buisness decisions and I respect him in that way. Oh and by the way it was heymans comments about dreamer and jr's recent idiotic comments that set me off they piss me off allot.

 

[sTyLnK]

People always write to JR and he is nice enough to answer questions in his blog. Heyman gets paid so why not. Many wrestlers also blog. It's neat to see what some are thinking and what is on their minds. It also gives some insight into things like the industry, injuries, how people are doing etc. Don't agree with you at all.

 

[gregfj2]

You have the right to avoid any website that offends you. You also have an obligation to "Know Your Role" and be vested in this business before you try to smear it. Did you miss a paycheck from Paul? Did your camera get smashed when JR backed into you as his announce table was getting torn up? Go get yourself a Droz hat and appreciate the good things in life. Or try some of JR's BBQ sauce, maybe you'll like it!

 

[falconsault]

well to the last few coments totaly disagree kabeface has been dead in the sence of injuries and wrestling be scripted but in the sence that hes revealing specific backstage happenings of the past and other secrets of the industry is wrong. Enough secretes have been already revealed it only ruins the industry. As with the respect for wrestling alumnis I have allot and give respect when the deserve it. I think once a wrestler/manager leaves the industry, they have no place to try to hog the limelite looking for additional 15 mins of fame, its quite sad. I see heyman and jr as too seperate evils one overdoes it the other posts biased posts that I'm sick of. I don't even read these guys stuff anymore I just read the headlines. If its intresting I will check out the synopsis in the news section which usually is a mistake. This is not a person thread against any current or former wwe employee (even though ihave personal problems with one of these men) it's an opinion saying that all these industry men should stop blogging because its just too much they stragically put themselves in the headlines almost all the time and it seems a little to rediclious that they do this because they are ledgends in there own right. They don't need to do this at all. Just all opinions based on my sickness of seeing these guys grasp on straws and put themselves in the spotlight way too much. I do love these guys and would be intrested if they do a blog/interview at the mst once a week but just personally these guys over do it.

I'm not a vince mark in the sence of creative as of late. But I am a huge fan of his buisness decisions and I respect him in that way. Oh and by the way it was heymans comments about dreamer and jr's recent idiotic comments that set me off they piss me off allot.

I told myself I was done with this thread, unfortunately I came back to take another look. Are you kidding yourself here? Really? Kayfabe, please NOTE the spelling of it, isn't dead in the face of industry secrets? You are mental man, the main site here posts daily about industry secrets and now you're going to come on here and tell everyone that kayfabe isn't dead in that sense? Please, stop insulting our intelligence here.

Kayfabe has been dead for a long time; WWE finally killed it completely off when they went with posting real news over made up news on their website. But before that, it was dying a slow and painful death thanks to wrestling news sites that feel it's greatly appropriate for the fans to feel like they are standing right next to the writers or even Vince himself.

Let's not forget al the documentaries that have been made OUTTING the industry secrets of professional wrestling, and I'm talking about both video and written documentaries. To add to that, let’s not forget that who really CARES what happened backstage in the past? Do you honestly think that it’s going to make us think less of someone because Paul E. is saying that Vince wanted to kill off the originals? Or are you that dense to believe that no one on here already figured that, since oh yeah, how many of the originals are left? Just Tommy Dreamer to my recollection, and that’s only because I’m not counting Jericho and Mysterio.

So you're saying that because Paul E. needs to make money to feed himself and such, that he should go do something else other than what the hell he knows? Curious, what job do you think he would be better suited at? Maybe a plumber? How about an electrician? Let's take Paul E. and put him in a job he has no business doing, let's forget that he knows anything about wrestling.

And you complain about JR still because he's bias. Well gee whiz, who would have thought that a man who has friends in the business, that ARE the greatest the business has seen in the last 10 years, to think that he would say good things about them. Who would have ever thought? I mean who would really down play their friends? Not I, because then they aren't really your friends are they? No, no they most certainly are not.

ALSO, JR still has a job with WWE. Why is it wrong for him to advertise the product that he works for? That'd be like Ronald McDonald not advertising McDonald's because some one like you gets mad about him saying "My Hamburgers are the best, they are better than Burger King's and Wendy's combined." Get real man.

You say you read just the headlines? Well if they piss you off so much, why not just not read the headlines as well? Save yourself and all of us the trouble of hearing you complain about it, because your feeble arguments in this thread alone are damaging to ones intelligence.

 

[Blifferd221]

yo the law, this is the stupidest thread i have ever read and its just pathetic to hear you bitch and moan like this. nobody agrees with this crap and i dont think anyone cares if you hate them or not, grow up and stiop bitching abouot them, if you have a probelm with it dont read them!!!!!! that simple, you need to get a life

 

[Paradox100]

Ok,, because two people that have a lot of experience in the wrestling business talk the truth, they have no life? Paul Heyman, the man isn't rich, he owes so many former talents money. So this man is doing something he is good at, talking about wrestling. What's wrong with that? Are you a CM Punk fan? Pissed J.R. says the guy isn't popular backstage? Or are you one of those guys that thinks wrestling news sites are life? J.R. does thrash wrestling sites, rightfully so. He doesn't like it, when all the news get to us, before most the roster.

So, Paul says that he doesn't like how Vince hired several originals, and planned on firing them just weeks later. Which is a pretty screwed up thing to do. Paul has a right to be mad, think of all the people who have screwed him in the past. Paul Heyman has a life, he has a legacy. Who brought Lucha Libre to the states? ECW. Who developed one of the biggest star's of wrestling, Stone Cold Steve Austin? ECW. Who made Hardcore Wrestling? ECW. So if you don't think Heyman has a life, or a legacy, you don't know wrestling.

J.R. has been announcing wrestling for 40 years, one of the best announcer's in our sport. He has many looks on pro wrestling, and he talks about them. He answers questions from the fans, which is cool. So, if you think they have no lives, you have no respect to wrestling that is good.

 

[pthbass89]

well to the last few coments totaly disagree kabeface has been dead in the sence of injuries and wrestling be scripted but in the sence that hes revealing specific backstage happenings of the past and other secrets of the industry is wrong.

What dignity kayfabe had at one point is now lost. If you actually pull your head out of your self-righteous ass and look back at WWE in 2000 or ealier, or if you can remember anything from around then, you'll notice that the WWE were alot more hush-hush over possible story lines and were still adamantly trying to make it seem as believable as possible.

It helped the product sell, without question, fans alike would tune for each Raw and Smackdown unaware of what may as opposed to what will happen, all the fans could do was to guess it'll carry on any major story lines or start new ones, and thats exactly what happened. That was the mystique of the WWE, thats what made The Undertakers JD 2000 return so effective, very few knew it was going to happen and to this day I am yet to see a return which rivals it, let alone a PPV.

Still, unfortunately times change, the internet has grown so much since 2000 and before, and the wrestling business has always been updating itself along with it. In America it's been turning into evangelical PG family viewing product for the last 4 or more years, as such the older fans have gotten wiser and smarter and we are now at a stage where, depressingly, we can almost guess every PPV outcome and see where certain feuds are heading. I'll admit even I miss that aspect of kayfabe, but so much has happened that some would deem it almost unfair for not letting the fans know of a certain wrestlers condition or whereabouts.

If anything no doubt the fans of my generation would admit that they wanted to know what was going on backstage in those days, and luckily the kids of todays PG-13 WWE are presented with that opportunity, they don't have to view it but they know they can so they will and proceed to do so.

You seem to forget the industry is a beast which is constantly growing and shakes off most past discrepancies (Obviously ones such as the Benoit family tragedy will leave ever lasting marks) and carries on. Paul Heyman blogging about what really happened behind the scenes with Vince and the last remaining ECW originals is more than acceptable. It was a good few years ago now and also reveals how the new ECW product has taken a major U turn from a possible Smackdown beater (At the time of course) to a barely average B show, which is struggling with ratings most of the time.

And it also cements most fans view on how Vince really saw ECW and it's talent. If Paul Heyman thinks it's our right to know then so be it, I for one have no problem with it. Privilege is probably the best word to sum the last bit up. If you choose to take it up then fine, but if you wish to attack that privilege because you think you know whats right for a billion dollar franchise then why are you wasting your time here?

Enough secretes have been already revealed it only ruins the industry.

I'd go as far to say that not enough secrets have been revealed, there are still some fans would really like to know, for example, Kennedy and Umaga's recent releases. We know they were released and there are possible reasons to why but theres still no defining word on either releases.

And please learn to spell correctly, it really is one of your other major failings.

As with the respect for wrestling alumnis I have allot and give respect when the deserve it.

Respect?

If you truly respect Paul Heyman or JR you wouldn't of started this now hostile thread.

I think once a wrestler/manager leaves the industry, they have no place to try to hog the limelite looking for additional 15 mins of fame, its quite sad.

Who the hell are you to say what wrestlers/managers should do or not do when they choose to move on from wrestling or move to a different company.

As already kindly pointed out they are merely blogging their PERSONAL thoughts, blogging is not a way of garnering for 15 minutes of fame, American Idol is the place to hog any limelight that person can get.

Paul Heyman is well aware his limelight time is over and happily moves on, just along the way he thinks it's fair that the fans who have been following for years deserve to know what really happened.

If being a decent person is a sin then I'm surely as bad as him.

I see heyman and jr as too seperate evils one overdoes it the other posts biased posts that I'm sick of. I don't even read these guys stuff anymore I just read the headlines.

To be honest Heymans blog seemed quite tame for him, and JR is part of the product, of course most of what he says is going to be biased.

If you honestly read the headlines with an open mind you wouldn't have resorted to starting such a petty thread.

If its intresting I will check out the synopsis in the news section which usually is a mistake.

Stay away from the headlines then, they only seem to tease you into a frenzy. If you really want to get all wound up over something, just look at how pious/obnoxious/self-righteous anything on Fox news is.

This is not a person thread against any current or former wwe employee (even though ihave personal problems with one of these men) it's an opinion saying that all these industry men should stop blogging because its just too much they stragically put themselves in the headlines almost all the time and it seems a little to rediclious that they do this because they are ledgends in there own right.

Spell check is either your worst friend or he's just slapped you across the face with the idiot stick.

I'd honestly love to know who it is you have a personal beef with, it'll only be as ridiculous as this thread. Unfortunatley you have a very bad way of voicing an opinion and it hasn't done you any favors at all.

There is no strategy involved in blogging, blogging is purely blogging, if WZ picks up on it then it is obviously because they think some (Not everyone) will be interested to read it. If such is the case, you should really be winging at the mods for doing such a "Bad"job.

They don't need to do this at all.

True, but as mentioned they feel the fans are entitled to know.

Just all opinions based on my sickness of seeing these guys grasp on straws and put themselves in the spotlight way too much. I do love these guys and would be intrested if they do a blog/interview at the mst once a week but just personally these guys over do it.

Honestly, if your opinions are anything like these I please ask for future warning so I can get a more comfortable chair.

I'm not a vince mark in the sence of creative as of late. But I am a huge fan of his buisness decisions and I respect him in that way. Oh and by the way it was heymans comments about dreamer and jr's recent idiotic comments that set me off they piss me off allot.

Idiotic posts piss me off...and I'm not alone on that, trust me.

 

[Big J]

It's a BLOG no one is forcing you to read.

What's next? Are you going to start complaining about the anount of PORN in your VCR?

you need to get a life and quit reading and complaining about things you don't like.

 

[scratchbackofdiego]

First off, I don't see why anyone puts Heyman on a pedestal and tries to defend him. I mean come on the man sold out his own company, one that he supposedly loved, but that's a different topic. He really does seem like a bitter person, that btw how can you even take what he says with a grain of salt? He sold out his own company, like i stated before. As far as Jim Ross goes, come on people you know the WWE is watching what he post, just like they do with all their employees. So, yeah both Heyman and Ross' blogs are nothing more than crap.

 

[Razor]

How many others are sick and tired of hearing about what these guys put in there blogs.

Well. JR still works for WWE, and some people like to hear what a insider company man has to say about the company's ideas. I don't really care, considering he's not going to ever say "I HATE THIS," seeing as though he's smarter than that. But meh. If people will read.

Heyman? He has a blog? Ohhh yeahhh..is he the one who was bad mouthing the Hardys or something like that, that the main site kept pushing as incredibly controversial? I don't care. If people will read it, let him write it. As long as he isn't proposing to shoot every WWE worker or something.

Heyman especially since he's out of the limelite yet he has to put petty bullcrap in his blog and slurs against the industry thats actually harming it. Sure most people in the industry when they blog they do it with some respect for the wrestling comunity. I'm almost certain that Heyman wants vince to close down but thats another story.

Actually, no. That's not another story. If Heyman wants Vince to shut down, why not begin his attack in the trenches? From where he can? He can only really fight from his blog, getting a following. Of course he's not going to do any damage at all, but a man like Heyman really only wants people to pay attention to him. If they listen and understand, he's done what he wants done.

He brakes the rules of kabeface in his blog to an extent that I never seen anyone else do and he keeps putting out more hatefull entries at a steady pace.

I'm assuming "kabeface" is "kayfabe." Which, oddly enough, makes Google Chrome think I meant Fabergé. Huh. But yeah. Back to your post.

He has to keep up kayfabe for a company he's not in anymore? It's not like he's JR. He did have quite a rocky split from WWE. It's his baby ECW, got a little riled up over it.

Honestly he needs to stfu because hes hurting the industry and shouldn't be in published media as well. His contempt for honor really pisses me off, i think he tries to destroy wwe in the pettiest way, and he's tarnished his legacy as the founder of the origional ECW.

Lulz. Like Heyman is doing any damage. that's like saying Mark Madden is making irreparable damage with his article on Wrestlezone.

And his legacy as the founder of the original ECW? Which legacy would that be? The one where it was a shit promotion with nothing but spot after spot? Or the one where they sank like a stone? Oh, must be that crucifixion angle between Sandman and Raven, right? That was soooo edgy!!

As for JR, come on his blogs are the biggest f*****g joke ever and he needs to stfu. It demeans peoples educations, its so overtly fake that its sicking.

Well, that's rather rude. You get mad at him for "demeans peoples educations," which I have yet to see him do, whilst demeaning him by saying his article is the "biggest fucking joke ever and he needs to stfu." Hypocrisy.

His so called spoilers are the worst form of advertisment that I've ever seen. When he talks seiously about past superstars he does it with a huge bias that consists of the (stone cold rocks and is the greatest ever (friend) and all of his enemies he writes about as if there loosers who never did anything for the industry even if they did.)

Did he ever say he would make an unbiased, not in any way effected by his current employers blog? And if he is friends with Stone Cold, why would he say anything bad about him? That's not very friendly. If I were your friend, I definitely wouldn't say that you sucked at your job or that you couldn't spell worth shit.

But I'm not your friend, so I'll go ahead and say it. You need to get a browser that has spell check, and use it. Google Chrome and Firefox have it, I'm sure. I rather like Google Chrome. Try it out. To bad there's not a grammar check either.

I'm so sick of seeing his blog come up on wrestling news because its defently not legit.

Lulz, like half the shit they have up as news is legit. How many stories in the past 3 weeks have they had to rescind? The Masters resigning is a huge example.

He blogs almost every f***ing day about nothing and if anything his stupidty with this blog is undermining his legacy as a great in this industry.

Oh my god. You and your "undermining his legacy" shit. If his and Heyman's legacies are weak enough to suffer from their own blogs where they aren't really saying anything incredibly quackish, then they aren't legacies worth keeping.

These blogs and interviews need to stop because it hurts the industry (especially wwe) and is outright disgusting and pitifull in there own way. How many others agree with me in the sense that both of these guys spew the biggest load of bullcrap ever online and need to get a life.

I still don't understand how it hurts the industry. Then again, you never really said how.

These blogs have nothing to do against or for the WWE. Just as Matt Hardy posting on his Myspace being a little bitch and thinking he's so much better than everyone (no, not just as heel. He was being a righteous jackass during his face run) and giving little cryptic messages to try and "throw the wresting sites off his scent" aren't anything but a ****** being ******ed.

You might not like what JR and Heyman are saying, but ima tell you this. Not everything you don't like hurts the WWE or JR and Heyman's goddamn legacies.

 

[Stormtrooper]

Well then, I guess you will hate the blogs of other former (or current) WWE personnel.

Lance Storm (my 2nd favorite wrestler of all time) has a website, in which he posts articles written by himself (it has been around before the "blog" movement, so it isn't a blog, not to mention he actually wrote articles for a magazine, which he re-posts on the site). RVD robvandam has a blog too. Then how about all the peoples Twitter pages. Matt Hardy, Jeff Hardy, Hurricane Helms, Chris Jericho, my favorite wrestler of all time Zack Ryder (WOO WOO WOO! YOU KNOW IT!) and about 1000 more former and current WWE people have twitter accounts.

At the end of the day, if you don't like something, DON'T READ IT. Both Paul E. and JR are respected men in this business, and if they want to post their thoughts on THEIR OWN WEBSITE, then who is to stop them. They are not emailing them to you, nor are they forcing 3rd parties to quote them for stories. The only way to read either Paul's or JR's blogs is to actually click on something to read them.

I am an avid reader of JR's blog, and I would read heyman's all the time, except I always forget to bookmark the website. I also am a regular reader of this website. However, I know that this website comes from people whom have never made a dime in the wrestling business, and are just fans. JR, Heyman, and all the other wrestling professionals who blog have insight, and they share their insight through the wonderful world of the internet. If I want opinion, I will go to the blogs, if I want to see rumors, I will go here. I see no reason for the 2 worlds to collide.

By the way, "kabeface" was broken for good when Vince McMahon got up and announced to the world that wrestling was entertainment, and not a legitimate sport. So these bloggers who "break 'kabeface'" are actually breaking something that is already broken. I don't know about you, but breaking things is fun, and if something is broken, no harm can be done by breaking it more, so why not break it more.

PS: "kabeface" was the original posters attempt to spell KAYFABE. I actually ran spell-check, and corrected SPELLING ERRORS, in order to not look like a dumb . If one wants to make a compelling argument, you need to not look like a dumb .

PPS:

 

[Big Daddy Fool]

Yea I guess they do need to get a life. One is writing a blog for money and the other is writing a blog on his own personal website. Yea i guess they do need to get a life, it's not like theyre going online complaining about petty things on a website they have no affiliation with and posting on it without getting paid. You're right theyre the ones who need to get a life.

Paul Heyman owes nothing to the business at this point. Why in the hell would he protect kayfabe. First off kayfabe is pretty much dead and secondly, he is no longer in the business so why would he keep kayfabe? What's different from what paul heyman is doing then what Mark Madden is doing on this very website? If he didnt speak out against the business no one would be interested in reading his blog and the uk sun wont be paying him to write the blog.

Why would JR speak out against his employer? If he was interested in getting canned then trashing the WWE would be something he should do.

 

[It's...Baylariat!]

How many others are sick and tired of hearing about what these guys put in there blogs. Heyman especially since he's out of the limelite yet he has to put petty bullcrap in his blog and slurs against the industry thats actually harming it. Sure most people in the industry when they blog they do it with some respect for the wrestling comunity. I'm almost certain that Heyman wants vince to close down but thats another story. He brakes the rules of kabeface in his blog to an extent that I never seen anyone else do and he keeps putting out more hatefull entries at a steady pace. Honestly he needs to stfu because hes hurting the industry and shouldn't be in published media as well. His contempt for honor really pisses me off, i think he tries to destroy wwe in the pettiest way, and he's tarnished his legacy as the founder of the origional ECW. As for JR, come on his blogs are the biggest f*****g joke ever and he needs to stfu. It demeans peoples educations, its so overtly fake that its sicking. His so called spoilers are the worst form of advertisment that I've ever seen. When he talks seiously about past superstars he does it with a huge bias that consists of the (stone cold rocks and is the greatest ever (friend) and all of his enemies he writes about as if there loosers who never did anything for the industry even if they did.) I'm so sick of seeing his blog come up on wrestling news because its defently not legit. He blogs almost every f***ing day about nothing and if anything his stupidty with this blog is undermining his legacy as a great in this industry. These blogs and interviews need to stop because it hurts the industry (especially wwe) and is outright disgusting and pitifull in there own way. How many others agree with me in the sense that both of these guys spew the biggest load of bullcrap ever online and need to get a life.

If I can be serious for a minute...



This thread shows me that you have no sense of wrestling knowledge or history. Paul Heyman and Jim Ross have done more with wrestling than you'll do with ANYTHING you do in your entire life. True story.

Whining about seeing someone's blog coming out is like bitching about a bad movie that you're watching on TV. The solution for that...TURN THE CHANNEL. Or in this case, DON'T READ IT! Jim Ross is a guy who likes to write about the goings on in the business and also is a firm believer in setting things straight, thanks to the scrap news reporting the majority of internet wrestling news sites put on their pages. And Paul Heyman is a guy who is, in my book, one of the top 3 greatest wrestling minds ever. And you bash him because he's 'out of touch'. Why is that? Because he isn't on TV? Please. Do us all a favor and contribute to the forum instead of spreading stuff like this around. And learn to spell, too. Firefox has spell check. Use it. It'll become a close personal friend of yours.

I just can't get over the constant stupidity I've seen around here lately. I mean, I'm not one to bash anyone, but this is seriously pissing me off. Nothing personal, but you'll be a short timer on the forums if you keep posting shit like this. Word life.

 

[SavageTaker]

You're fucking kidding me right? You do realize that they have the right to express themselves however they want. It's called free speech. They can write and will keep writing whatever they want in their blogs as long as they want to write those things. No one can force them to right something they don't want to write. If they want to bash Vince McMahon, that's fine because they are entitled to their opinion and by law they are allowed to write their opinions. If they want to bash the entire McMahon family, they can do that too.

You sir have a problem, if you don't like reading their blogs and you're whining about them then stop reading them. No one is forcing you to read their blogs. No one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to read the blog or else they shoot you. All you simply need to do is not read the Damn thing. How hard is it to really close the web page where you are reading their blogs and not read them at all?

 

[Razor]

well to the last few coments totaly disagree kabeface

"Kabeface" should be "kayfabe." I'm almost 100% sure of it. Unless it's some new term I've never heard before.

has been dead in the sence of injuries

According to kayfabe we can't acknowledge injuries? I never knew that.

and wrestling be scripted

The knowledge that wrestling is scripted doesn't ruin kayfabe. I can still suspend belief. Because I'm a fan. Try it sometime.

but in the sence that hes revealing specific backstage happenings of the past and other secrets of the industry is wrong.

JR isn't doing that. And I know you aren't trying to say that Heyman is giving us unprecedented access to backstage happenings, when the main site, which you seem to think is a gold mine of wrestling knowledge, tells us everyday what kind of wheeling and dealing is going on backstage. Or, at least, what they make up as the latest deal that Triple H pushed on everyone.

Enough secretes have been already revealed it only ruins the industry. As with the respect for wrestling alumnis I have allot and give respect when the deserve it.

Ok, you respect the alumni. That's cool. Only "respect" means you don't fucking freak out if someone says they don't like how Vince is booking a storyline.

I think once a wrestler/manager leaves the industry, they have no place to try to hog the limelite looking for additional 15 mins of fame, its quite sad.

Firstly, JR hasn't left the industry. So I hope this is aimed at Heyman.

Heyman isn't hogging any limelight. Honestly. No one really gives a shit about him. He could yell about how Cena deserves to lose his main-event spot for not saving Batista a few Raws ago and no one would really care. Honestly.

I see heyman and jr as too seperate evils one overdoes it the other posts biased posts that I'm sick of.

Heyman is pissy. He's going to exaggerate.

Of course JR is biased. He's not going to write stupid shit about his CURRENT EMPLOYERS. My god. When was the last time you openly went onto the street and lamented how horrible your boss ran his company? And if you actually have an answer for that question, I'd also like to know how long you've been without a job.

I don't even read these guys stuff anymore I just read the headlines. If its intresting I will check out the synopsis in the news section which usually is a mistake.

Lulz. And you're actually acting like you know what's in them? Dude. It's kinda not smart to actually admit you don't know what you're talking about. Just saying.

This is not a person thread against any current or former wwe employee (even though ihave personal problems with one of these men)

Actually, JR is a current WWE employee. and Heyman is a former employee. So i dont know what the fuck you're talking about here.

Oh, and whatever personal problems you have, it kinda clouds your judgment, no? That is if your "personal problems" are legit.

it's an opinion saying that all these industry men should stop blogging because its just too much they stragically put themselves in the headlines

What headlines? Please. Direct me to the nearest headline that isn't on fucking Wrestlezone. Are they getting a deal with the Associated Press or Wall Street Journal I'm not aware of?

almost all the time and it seems a little to rediclious that they do this because they are ledgends in there own right. They don't need to do this at all.

JR is in the spotlight every Friday. He's not garnering any more attention than he would if he actually posted in the WWE.com forums. No would read his shit unless they really care about what he says.

Heyman isn't getting any more attention than he would if he were to yell into a blo****n on top of his roof about how mean the WWE is. No one gives a shit.

Just all opinions based on my sickness of seeing these guys grasp on straws and put themselves in the spotlight way too much. I do love these guys and would be intrested if they do a blog/interview at the mst once a week but just personally these guys over do it.

Over do what? Typing stuff that the people who want to read what they say will read? It must be the fact that they don't write what you like to read. Oh, well then. Please accept my apologies on behalf of Heyman and JR.

I'm not a vince mark in the sence of creative as of late. But I am a huge fan of his buisness decisions and I respect him in that way.

Ok? Join the line of complaining people about this PG rating that they claim is the end of WWE forever. I don't care how much you love Vince. You're complaining about JR and Heyman writing a column.

Oh and by the way it was heymans comments about dreamer and jr's recent idiotic comments that set me off they piss me off allot.

Heyman could have written that he would love to fuck Matt Hardy in the ass while eating a kitten alive, and JR could have gone into an explicit description of his most recent late night rendezvous with Mrs. McMahon that involved just a little bit too much of JR's Barbecue sauce. Still wouldn't excuse you whining. Don't read the shit. Oh, wait. You admitted that you don't read it anyway. You just look at "headlines."


One more thing. Please use spell check. Please. If you're using Firefox or Chrome it's built right in. And paragraphs make your work a lot easier to read. Just sayin'

 

[NYSandman]

As a violent believer in freedom of speech, I think it's wrong to criticize anything anyone writes in a blog. I'm in total agreement with Milenko. A blog is where you vent, say what's on your mind, whatever.

If you don't like the blog, don't read it. I'm not picking on anyone, but I always wonder why people go ape over something they read, and then try to get the text removed or censored because THEY don't like it.

If you don't like something, simply don't read it. I don't listen to Rush Limbaugh because I think, again I think he's a stupid, fat douche bag. That, however, doesn't give me the right to try and stop what he's saying. And, he has no right to complain when I give my opinion that he's a disgusting pig.

Also, I thought it was kayfeb. Anyhow, it's dead. Most every fan now knows the deal, what goes on behind closed doors. There's no need for a commentator to try and protect a business that has been busted wide open long ago.

I like both blogs. Heyman gets no respect. He played his role in wrestling history, and deserves respect.

JR has earned the right to say whatever he wants. He's worked in multiple companies and is one of the finest wrestling minds around right now.

If he is advertising for WWE, so what? When you advertise for your company, you're potentially getting people to watch, which is profitable for you.

No one should STFU, but everyone should voice their opinion, and others should respect it, even if they don't agree.