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Overrated or Underrated - Andre the Giant

Andre the Giant - Overrated or Underrated?

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IrishCanadian25

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In the next installment of "Overrated or Underrated," we will pick up yet another IC25 vs SlyFox debate, on the merits of Andre the Giant. Was this mammoth of a man, the first WWE Hall of Famer, overrated? Was he underrated? Was he rated correctly?

Well, you tell me...
 
Well I have to say that I haven't seen alot of Andre but I think he has been rated correctly, he has accomplished alot and is one of the biggest names in the history on the business, and I think has been given the proper credit, nobody has ever taken anything away from him and I don't think anyone could, he was great and if not for him who knows where the industry would be today
 
He's clearly overrated.

All the man did was be one of the biggest wrestling draws in history, loved by fans all over the world, from USA to Europe to Japan. He only worked as a major draw as a lovable face and as a monster heel. He displayed psychology and storytelling in his matches and could work a crowd like no other, but he couldn't do a shooting star press, so he clearly sucked. He made a battle royal a must see event, and on the rare occasion he did lose clean in America, the only thing it did was give birth to Hulkamania, the biggest thing to hit pro-wrestling.

Andre has to be the most overrated ever. I mean, the guy wasn't even a technical wrestler! That says everything I think.
 
He's clearly overrated.

All the man did was be one of the biggest wrestling draws in history, loved by fans all over the world, from USA to Europe to Japan. He only worked as a major draw as a lovable face and as a monster heel. He displayed psychology and storytelling in his matches and could work a crowd like no other, but he couldn't do a shooting star press, so he clearly sucked. He made a battle royal a must see event, and on the rare occasion he did lose clean in America, the only thing it did was give birth to Hulkamania, the biggest thing to hit pro-wrestling.

Andre has to be the most overrated ever. I mean, the guy wasn't even a technical wrestler! That says everything I think.


Sly, this may be one of your best posts to date. I love the sarcastic reverse psychology, makes your point well.

So here we go with my take. Ever since Sly's and my original debate on Andre, I have proactively done some research into the man, and as a result changed my tune a bit. I wouldn't have gone so far as to call him under-rated, because I find it hard to say that the first inductee into the WWF/E Hall of Fame wasn't given enough credit.

But after my research, I vote under-rated. Not egregiously under-rated, but enough to where I think it bears some discussion.

Part of the reason he was and still to this day is so popular is because of his ability to embrace different opportunities and challenges. For example, a lot of people (hitherto myself included) did not know he defeated Chuck Wepner in a boxer vs wrestler match in 1976. For thos who do not know, Wepner was the boxer who took Muhammed Ali to 15 rounds and whom the story of "Rocky" is loosely based off of.

His first win against Hulk Hogan was in 1980 at glorious Shea Stadium. This was important, because it was the first ever "supercard" created by the WWF's new owner, some guy named Vince McMahon. Funny enough, this was the first time Hogan bodyslammed Andre, but Vince and the WWE refused to acknowledge the event to promote Wrestlemania 3. The match was regarded as "terrible" but man was it important. As a side note, Hogan entered the match a heel with Freddie Blassie as his manager. After the match, Andre flew down to Tampa to defeat The Super Destroyer. Names were stupid back then.

Since so many people see the Andre the Giant of the Wrestlemania 3-6 era, it's easy to see a slow, befuddled mass taking life out of the crowd. In the 1970's, the man could hold a camel clutch like few others.

I totally understand the people who chide Andre for his mechanics. Slyfox likes to call guys like Jeff Hardy et als "Spot Monkeys." Well, Andre was a "rest-hold monkey." His use of the same set of slow holds such as the bear hug wouldn't fly by today's standards.

And yes, Andre selflessly put Hulkamania over. Without the slam of Andre at Wrestlemania 3, who knows if Hogan would have his "larger than life" superhero persona. I just look at Andre the way I look at Sugar Ray Leonard. Should have retired a few years earlier than he did. The Tag Team titles with Haku tainted Andre's legacy a bit, and Andre should be remembered for one of the biggest and longest running feuds of all time - half a decade on and off with Hulk Hogan.
 
Bret Hart says in his book Andre was a pure pro and was a great worker. I havent seen much of Andre other than the stuff he did in the mid 80s with Hogan so Brets word will do for me :D
 
I think that Andre is deserving of his status. Sure, he was not the most technically sound wrestler in history, but without his contributions to sports entertainment wrestling as we know it today would not be. There are other facets to being deemed such a great superstar other than technical skill. The list of non-technical wrestling superstars is long but Andre still contributed quite a bit. As a showman and as a draw he accomplished much and should be remembered as such. He was important in shaping the business and bringing it into a great era. Hulkamania would not exist without Andre. Another plus for Andre is the fact that the fans never saw Andre tarnish his legacy by acting like a fool and staying around long passed his time. He never turned into a Hulk Hogan or Mick Foley by milking the money train that is Vince McMahon.
 
The guy is Rated Correctly. He was the first giant of wrestling to carry a whole company on his own and he is a true great.

I could go into detail but IrishCanadian25 & Slyfox696 have said good and bad so it would be pointless.
 
Andre is rated correctly by the WWE, and is horribly, criminally under rated by the all knowing all seeing IWC.

Sly's hit everything on the head, in his reverse psychology point of view. The guy was over 7 feet tall, yet people were pissed because he was slow. Watch Andre pre Wrestlemania, and the guy can go in the ring.

Andre is a victim of the WWE marketing machine though, and ultimately, Vince McMahon's ego. Instead of showing footage of the guy from pre Jr. Era WWF, they show WM 3 Andre. The broken down, beaten old man, instead of the flashy, charismatic Giant of the 70's. Blame this on Jr. For refusing to acknowledge anything that he didn't create.

Andre is one of the greats, yes, but I feel his fate is the same of anyone that started watching Hogan when he was in the NWO. They saw them at the tail end of their careers and can't appreciate the entire career.
 
After the match, Andre flew down to Tampa to defeat The Super Destroyer. Names were stupid back then.

psh, dude Whatever. I wish when I was born, that was what my mom named me.

Andre I would say is rated correctly. Yes, a lot of the super smart IWC thinks he is shit, but they represent a rather small portion of wrestleing fans I would say. Thats why Triple H and Cena remain at the top of the company, and they havent created a new "super awesome greatest ever champion of everything" belt for CM punk.

Andre was beloved, chrasmatic, and unstoppable as a face, and intimidating and menacing as a heel, and probably preformed the most important job of all time, launching Hulkamania, and the sport into main stream success. And I would say the vast majority of fans recognize and credit Andre. Its mostly just IWC zeniuses who know everything about everything (which is why they are multi millionaire wrestling promoters) who discredit Andre. Funny how some people who claim to know so much about what "pro wrestling truly is" know NOTHING about what PRO WRESTLING truly is.
 
Andre is rated correctly, for the most part. Being an older fan, I remember Andre's matches from the 1970's pretty well. He could,as was stated earlier in this thread, tell a story in the ring; and his knowledge of ring psychology was superb. Additionaly, I would add hat despite his huge size, he was definitely NOT sloppy inside the ropes, and could put in a decent work rate. I often believe that he may be technically better than most people give him credit for being. I recall seeing him come off the top strand of the ring ropes in a cage match w/ John Studd( I grant you, he had the cage to hold onto) but even for him to do that was a pretty impressive feat for a man near the 500 lb. mark. Probably the first real superstar of the buisness prior to the rise of Hulk Hogan.
 

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