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Apologies if there is a thread on this already but I can't find one.

Last night the New Age Outlaws defeated the Brotherhood to become tag team champions.

Personally I'm not sure what to make of this. First of all I can't work out of the NAO are heels or not and secondly it feels to me like they have come back from nowhere, upstaged the younger tag teams and have been handed the belts on a plate. I know the NAO have been around a few weeks now but personally I feel disappointed with this title change.

Is everybody else happy to see Road Dogg and Billy Gunn back as champions again?
 
I'm happy with them being champs again because they've been busting their butts for years (even after the WWE) staying fit and working together. They deserve it more than any tag team on the roster in my opinion. But here's where I'm upset:

I believe that the tag team division is closer to it's Attitude Era heyday but the writers are wasting many of the teams' prime. The Usos and the Primetime players should have both already had decent championship reigns but for the past 7 years or so, the company seems to have been more content giving it to "thrown together" teams instead. This devalues the established tag teams of guys who were already thick in their team gimmicks.

Team Hell No and The Shield to me were a disaster for the tag team division because you knew those two teams weren't going to be together for years and years. And to top it off, they didn't even feud with the established teams that probably are going to be around for a long time. The Rhodes Bros and NAO are entertaining teams in the ring but unless they're here to stay, this was yet another dump being taken on the tag team division. They're not feuding with The Usos, PTP, or Los Matadores. Hell, the creative teams seems to be so hellbent on not pushing those teams, that they even turned PTP face.

But none of this should come as a shock since the very last non "thrown together" tag team that got a almost universally positive crowd reaction was Cryme Time. Since then, they haven't been focused on pushing and developing up and coming babyface tag teams with promise.
 
To an extent I'm happy because I felt The Rhodes Brothers had gone as far as they could with their title reign and it's important to give other teams a chance to shine.

Right now, the NAO were the only legitimate heel tag team that COULD have defeated Rhodes/Goldust for the titles - The Real Americans are on a bit of a slump and Rybaxel are...just meh. So yes, it makes sense that the NAO take the titles now and garner a bit of attention in the process. However, I'm convinced this will not be a long title reign. I can see the NAO dropping the titles before/at EC, and they HAVE to drop the titles to The Usos.

The Usos are (in my opinion) the best tag team in the division right now, in terms of in ring skill at any stretch. Yes, Road Dogg is great on the mic and NAO have the nostalgia factor to make them popular and interesting, but let's face it, they can't go as well in the ring any more. I was really disappointed that the match last night only last 6 minutes, for a title match (pre-show or not this is a really short match, imo).

If The Usos get their deserved rewards in the form of the titles, I can see them flourishing and having some cracking matches with the likes of The Real Americans and The Wyatts, they've proven that they can do it for the last 6-7 months now and they definitely deserve their chance.
 
New Age Outlaws new tag champs - in DX with Triple H!

Randy Orton retains title - in Evolution with Triple H!

Kevin Nash in Rumble - in the kliq with Triple H!

Batista wins Rumble - in Evolution with Triple H!

HBK and Ric Flair on panel - in DX and Evolution with Triple H!

If Triple H wasn't married to Stephanie McMahon do you think he would be where he is today?

Come on Shane O Mac you should be the one to take over your fathers legacy like he before you.
 
I wish it would've come about as a result of a better match. We've seen the Rhodes boys have some great 15+ minute matches for the tag titles and, frankly, I was a little let down to see that the New Age Outlaws won the titles in about 6 minutes or so. It wouldn't have bothered me to see The Brotherhood retain, but I've got no problems all in all with the New Age Outlaws winning their 6th tag team championship.

Unfortunately for the NAO, their title win and pretty much everything else that took place at the Royal Rumble was overshadowed by either Daniel Bryan, fan support of Daniel Byan and fan reaction for Bryan not being in the Royal Rumble.
 
I honestly don't agree to the fact that Triple H is there because of Stephanie, I mean yes he's the future CEO because of his relationship with Stephanie but I don't agree that he owes his career to that relationship,

One example that comes to mind pretty quick : In 2000-2001, when he was feuding with the Rock and Jericho, I remember these feuds perfectly because of his promos, MAN does he was intense, wow, probably some of the best promos of all time but he didn't get the props he deserved for it because He was feuding with the Rock and Jericho that were at least equal to him if not better.

Furthermore, he had some of the best matches of all time, with HBK, Angle, Taker etc. etc. back then when he was screaming I AM THE GAME AND I AM THAT ....... you all know it, because he was THAT ...... you'll never see those promose in highlights because they were heel promos.

One last thing, he had no problem losing if it was GOOD FOR BUSINESS, maybe he should show matches he lost to Spike Dudley or even Shelton Benjamin to his haters, he didn't mind losing if it makes sense, maybe Cena could learn from that
 
if the Outlaws do not lose the titles either tonight or tomorrow at the Smackdown taping to The Usos, then they will have held the titles for to long and crapped all over Cody & Dustin i can see the WWE not wanting to do the face v face even though they say faces and heels no longer exisist. then why couldn't the Brotherhood directly lose the titles to The Usos no real need for the Outlawsz
 
I'm not thrilled with the Outlaws becoming new tag champs, but I'm ok with it because it helps serve 2 purposes:

1) It got the ball rolling on the feud between Cody and Goldust. As we saw, later in the Rumble match, Goldust eliminated Cody. That laid the groundwork for what should be a great feud. Obviously they needed to drop the belts to get this started.

2) I think The Usos will become the next champs at WrestleMania XXX. They deserve to have their big moment after being elevated the past few months in 6-man tags versus The Shield and The Wyatt Family, even main eventing Raw a couple weeks ago. So I think they will get their due and what better way to put them over than to have them beat one of the best tag teams of all-time?

With that said, I personally would've rather seen The Real Americans defeat The Brotherhood. It's bad enough Batista gets to waltz back in and be handed the Royal Rumble, but even the Outlaws get to win the tag straps shortly after returning to full-time duty? It just sends a bad message to the roster. It basically says, "Bust your ass day in and day out so that you can job to somebody from the past if they decide to make a comeback. They're always more important."

So like I said, as long as this results in The Usos winning the titles on the grand stage of Mania, then the end justifies the means.
 
With the inevitable split of the Brotherhood & Shield this was the best decision to make. By putting the belts on NAO you now have "real" tag team holding them instead of the usual thrown together team. The NAO have the credibility that the Real Americans don't have yet. So it puts more emphasis on the titles by having one of the best tag teams in WWE history holding them.
This will hopefully help build up the division and allow teams like the Usos,Real Americans,& Prime Time Players to be looked at as real threats to the titles by having quality matches with NAO. Any of those 3 teams could easily be built up to take the belts from them and look like they deserved it. Hopefully it will be the Usos either at EC or Mania. When that happens the NAO can ride off into the sunset knowing they helped restore some prestige to the titles and set up some great match ups between the Usos,Real Americans,PTP,& Wyatts.
 
I didn't expect it mostly because it was on the pre-show. I didn't take the match seriously at all... I mean they had an interrupted commercial break right after it started "heating up"... Pretty much killed it for me. They couldn't have saved that "Don't forget to buy the Royal Rumble" spot after the match? But yeah, didn't expect it so I guess that's something...

I'm guessing the Outlaws are getting an induction into the Hall of Fame this year with them gaining the straps(and putting over the 14 year difference in title wins), also being hailed as the "Architects of the Attitude Era". I can see them looking strong until Mania, getting inducted, and then dropping the straps(probably to the Usos).
 
They're supposed to be heels after turning on Punk, but they do get more pops/cheers whenever they get on the mic, so they're kinda weird like that.

More on topic I don't mind them getting another title run + defending the titles on WM before retiring, they can go decently enough and Road Dog is better on the mic then the majority of the roster, which is something you want during WM season. It also helps bring in the nostalgia crowd they want signing up for the network.

Of course there are plenty of great teams that should get the titles later, but hopefully they'll get their chance soon enough.
 
The NAO are now 6 time WWE tag team champions of the world!!!!!! The brotherhood have had some great fantastic matches,15 minutes or so. Goldust as of late,has never looked better not even in his prime has he looked this good. It was kinda a weird night for the brotherhood even with Cody dumping goldust out of the rumble. This is the beginning of the supposed breakup for the brotherhood.

I dont have a problem with the NAO winning the tag titles last night but as well wouldn't have a problem with them losing either. The whole night as the WWE should have expected was the crowd's chanting of Daniel Bryan and the boo'ing of batista winning the Royal Rumble!
 
Personally I think they are a transition team so the Usos can get the straps instead of a face vs. face match against the Rhodes brothers.

I don't mind the NAO holding them. That part doesn't bother me. Having them back is a good springboard for the tag division to get back it's mojo.

Only thing that bothers me is if they are heels, then don't do the intro. Although the fans look stupid for booing them when they come out to the ring, but then repeat what the Road Dogg says and doing the "Suck It" chant.
 
I was kind off annoyed. Not because of Road Dogg and Billy Gunn but because of the ramifications for Cody and Goldust. I really don't want Cody turning heel and feuding with Dustin - it is a nothing concept.

The New Age Outlaws are great. Dogg is brilliant on the mic and they can both still work a decent match. Giving them a short title reign isn't the worst idea in the world. I can definitely see Punk costing them the belts. This is also a great way of taking the belts of the Rhodes Brothers in order to get them on The Uso's who are another popular tag-team.

They couldn't really put the straps on The Real Americans for a couple of months. The NAO act as perfect transitional champs for The Uso's. Hopefully they win at WM30 because I reckon that would get a decent reaction.
 
I'm happy with them being champs again because they've been busting their butts for years (even after the WWE) staying fit and working together. They deserve it more than any tag team on the roster in my opinion. But here's where I'm upset:

I believe that the tag team division is closer to it's Attitude Era heyday but the writers are wasting many of the teams' prime. The Usos and the Primetime players should have both already had decent championship reigns but for the past 7 years or so, the company seems to have been more content giving it to "thrown together" teams instead. This devalues the established tag teams of guys who were already thick in their team gimmicks.

Team Hell No and The Shield to me were a disaster for the tag team division because you knew those two teams weren't going to be together for years and years. And to top it off, they didn't even feud with the established teams that probably are going to be around for a long time. The Rhodes Bros and NAO are entertaining teams in the ring but unless they're here to stay, this was yet another dump being taken on the tag team division. They're not feuding with The Usos, PTP, or Los Matadores. Hell, the creative teams seems to be so hellbent on not pushing those teams, that they even turned PTP face.

But none of this should come as a shock since the very last non "thrown together" tag team that got a almost universally positive crowd reaction was Cryme Time. Since then, they haven't been focused on pushing and developing up and coming babyface tag teams with promise.

Yeah, it would have made sense to give Prime Time Players the titles last year to get more publicity with Young coming out.

Usos been ready to be TT champs since MITB, putting on great matches with The Shield.

I just hope they quit with the long title reigns, it buries the tag team division. It wouldn't hurt to pass around the title to shake things up a bit. The past few champs - Team Hell No, The Shield, The Brotherhood all have been dominant.
 

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